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    Episode 148 - MYTH AS MEDICINE: An Interview with Kwame Scruggs, PhD

    enJanuary 28, 2021

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    • Unlock the secrets of your dreams with Dream SchoolJoin Dream School to decode your personal dream code, gain access to a supportive community, and explore the unconscious mind for personal growth through Jungian analysis and mythological stories

      Dreams are a hidden door to the innermost and most secret recesses of the soul, as Carl Jung believed. At Dream School, an online program, you can unlock this inner world and decipher your personal dream code to optimize your life. Joining the program grants you access to a supportive community and the knowledge and guidance you need. Kwami Scruggs, a renowned mythologist and founder of Alchemy, shares his personal journey of self-discovery and the impact of early childhood experiences on his perception of self-worth. His story highlights the importance of understanding the symbolic meaning behind dreams and how it can lead to a deeper sense of purpose and identity. Through the combination of Jungian analysis and mythological stories, Dream School and Alchemy offer unique and effective ways to explore the unconscious mind and foster personal growth.

    • Discovering one's passion leads to unexpected opportunitiesFollowing your inner voice and passions can lead to fulfilling experiences and unexpected opportunities, even if it means taking unconventional paths.

      Following your passion or "bliss" can lead to unexpected opportunities and fulfilling experiences. The speaker, Kwame, shared his personal journey from working at Goodyear for 15 years, to discovering his true passion for playfully drumming and telling mythological stories. This realization came after years of working with youth and adults, feeling unfulfilled, and eventually asking himself what he truly wanted to do. After finding a PhD program in folklore and mythology, he started Alchemy, a nonprofit organization that uses myth and storytelling to help young people in Akron, Ohio. This journey took him from Akron to New York City and back, and was filled with synchronistic events and signs that guided him towards his passion. The speaker emphasizes the importance of listening to your inner voice and following your dreams, even when it seems uncertain or unconventional.

    • Express emotions and seek helpCommunication and vulnerability are essential for overcoming challenges and seeking help. Avoid being driven by approval or power, focus on others' well-being.

      Communication and vulnerability are key to overcoming challenges and seeking help. In the myth discussed, men are encouraged to express their emotions and admit when they're lost or unsure, rather than keeping things bottled up. The importance of letting others know when something is wrong was emphasized through the story of the king's sickness and his sons' inability to ask for help. Additionally, the myth illustrates the dangers of being driven by the desire for approval or power, and the benefits of focusing on the well-being of others. The men's group, which starts in February, aims to provide a safe space for men to explore these themes and learn from one another through the use of myths and storytelling.

    • Experience the healing power of myths through group explorationMyths provide deep healing and understanding when experienced in a group setting, fostering a sense of group consciousness and personal growth.

      The live experience of storytelling and group exploration of myths, as facilitated by Kwame Dawes through the Salome Institute of Union Studies, can have a profound impact on individuals. This process, which can be accessed via Zoom, taps into a deeper, collective unconscious and fosters a sense of group consciousness. Myths are not just stories to be read, but living entities that can provide deep healing and understanding when experienced in this way. This process, open to all men, can be particularly valuable for those who have reached a certain age and maturity, but the simplicity and power of the method make it accessible to anyone. The archetypal nature of the stories and the group dynamic create a powerful tool for introspection and personal growth.

    • Resonating with others' words for better decision-makingListening to others' perspectives and considering their rationales can lead to better decisions and personal growth.

      Effective decision-making relies on actively listening to others and considering their perspectives. This concept, known as a "Clinton" in ancient Greek philosophy, refers to when someone else's words resonate with us, even if they are not directly addressed to us. By focusing on others' rationales and being open to new information, we can make better decisions and adapt our own perspectives. Additionally, the importance of understanding our life's purpose was emphasized, as it can bring clarity and direction to our choices. Many people in their 20s seek this sense of purpose and may initiate their own experiences to find it. Ultimately, being open to new experiences and perspectives, as well as listening deeply to others, can lead to personal growth and better decision-making.

    • Exploring the depths of our soul for personal growthExplore your soul's depths for true meaning and purpose, not just the surface of yourself in today's technology-driven world.

      Connecting to something deeper within oneself is essential for personal growth and finding meaning and purpose in life. This was a theme that resonated with Kwame during his journey, which included pursuing a master's degree in counseling and discovering the importance of this connection at age 31. He emphasized that in today's world, with the prevalence of technology and social media, it's easy to get stuck on the surface of ourselves. However, it's the depths of our soul where true meaning and purpose come from. Kwame has applied this idea in his work, starting a group for girls and writing a book, among other projects. He encourages everyone to ask themselves what they truly desire, not what's possible, as a crucial step in personal growth.

    • Ignite your inner fire and connect it to the possibilities of the worldWorking towards our true desires from a young age with consistent effort can lead to great accomplishments within a decade

      Having a clear sense of what we truly desire and working towards it is essential for living a fulfilling life. The speaker shares his concern for individuals who lack imagination and ambition, as it may indicate a lack of will to live. He encourages people to dream big and not limit themselves to the immediate options. The speaker also mentions the quote, "You sit in your old age is determined by where you stand as a youth," emphasizing the importance of starting early and consistently working towards our goals. However, it's important to remember that everything comes with a cost, and we should be careful what we wish for. Ultimately, the goal is to ignite our inner fire and connect it to the possibilities of the world. As the myth of the lion cub teaches us, growth may not be visible day by day, but with consistent effort, we can accomplish great things within a 10-year period.

    • The importance of following dreams and taking risksTrusting oneself, taking calculated risks, and staying committed to goals can lead to success. Following the call of the ego self and being in right relationship with oneself are also crucial elements in achieving personal growth.

      Making decisions and taking chances are crucial elements in life. As the speaker shared, friends who have been through a lot together often differ in their outcomes, and those who have taken risks have often experienced success. This idea is echoed in myths and stories, where good deeds are rewarded and perseverance pays off. The speaker's personal experience of following his dreams, despite the challenges, illustrates this concept. He paid close attention to his dreams and followed their guidance, leading him to pursue a degree in mythology. The speaker's journey highlights the importance of trusting oneself, taking risks, and staying committed to one's goals. Additionally, the theme of being in right relationship with oneself and following the call of the ego self was also present in the conversation.

    • Support from within and outside sourcesSeeking support from both inner confidence and external validation is crucial for personal growth and making important decisions. Synchronicities, ancestral guidance, and recognition from others can inspire us to pursue our dreams.

      Support from within and outside sources is crucial for personal growth and making important decisions. The speaker shared a personal experience where they had a dream about a friend on their birthday, despite it being the wrong season. This synchronistic event, along with ancestral guidance and the recognition of their potential from others, helped the speaker make a difficult decision to pursue their dreams. The myth of the firebird, as shared by Michael Mead, further emphasizes the importance of having both inner confidence and external validation. The king in the myth recognizes the genius in a boy and pushes him beyond his limits, highlighting the significance of having someone believe in you even when you may not believe in yourself. Overall, this story underscores the importance of seeking support from various sources to help us navigate life's challenges and make meaningful choices.

    • Exploring consciousness and self-discovery in middle ageMyths and group programs can help adults wake up, find meaning, and promote growth during transitions and new challenges in life.

      Initiation and self-discovery are essential at any age, especially during middle age. The individuals Deb and the speaker met during a film screening exhibited a remarkable quality of consciousness that every parent would want for their child. Myths and group programs, like Men and Mythology, can help adults wake up and find meaning in their lives, especially when they may be facing new challenges or transitions. The speaker's experience of using myths in counseling underscores their power in connecting people to their inner selves and promoting growth. The dream shared in the podcast highlights the importance of exploring forgotten parts of oneself, even if it may be uncomfortable or unpleasant. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of continuous learning and self-discovery throughout one's life.

    • Dream of a Storage Room and a Dead BodyThe dream highlights the importance of acknowledging and exploring forgotten desires to prevent stagnation and move forward in life.

      The dream reflects the dreamer's current feelings of stasis and safety in her current situation, potentially at the cost of exploring new desires and experiences. The marketplace represents the external world full of activity and new possibilities, while the storage room symbolizes her internal life, which is quiet and content but lacks desire or questions. The dead body in the unconscious room could represent forgotten desires or aspects of herself that have been overlooked. The friend, as the animus, is leading her into the depths of her unconscious, and the laughter could indicate her discomfort or fear of facing these forgotten parts of herself. Overall, the dream suggests that the dreamer may be holding on to something that needs to be let go in order to move forward and explore new desires.

    • A friend as a trickster figure in a dreamDreams can contain contrasting elements and characters, awakening us from stasis and bringing new perspectives or emotions to light.

      Dreams often contain contrasting elements and characters, each representing different aspects of ourselves. In this dream, a male friend acts as a trickster figure, disrupting the dreamer's calm and contented state with his irreverent behavior. His actions, though seemingly transgressive, may serve to awaken the dreamer from stasis and bring new perspectives or emotions to light. This contrast between the dream ego's feelings and the trickster figure's attitude highlights the complex and dynamic nature of our inner world. Dreams can challenge us, make us laugh, and ultimately help us grow.

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    Encounters with Light: Jung's near-death experiences

    Encounters with Light: Jung's near-death experiences

    How can near-death experiences challenge and expand our understanding of consciousness and its connection to the transcendent?

    Carl Jung's near-death experience profoundly deepened his understanding of the psyche and its connection to the universal consciousness, reinforcing his belief in life beyond physical existence. During this transformative episode, he observed Earth from a distance, encountered mystical figures, and experienced a temple-like structure within a meteoric stone, enriching his theories on the collective unconscious and archetypal imagery. This experience left an indelible mark on his professional theories and personal philosophy, intensifying his exploration of human consciousness and the continuity of life after death.

     Universally consistent across cultures, Near Death Experiences (NDEs) are marked by out-of-body sensations, encounters with entities or deceased relatives, and environments filled with light, highlighting a shared psychological process at the boundary between life and death. Research efforts have effectively verified these phenomena, especially those corroborated in clinical settings, which challenge traditional views on consciousness. The transformative impacts of NDEs are profound, often leading to a diminished fear of death, increased spirituality, and a broader sense of self that integrates with universal consciousness. Open discussions enrich our understanding of NDEs within various cultural and historical contexts and provoke deeper reflections on consciousness as potentially expansive and eternal, aligning with modern and ancient perspectives on the human experience.

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    MARTYR COMPLEX: Selfish or Selfless?

    MARTYR COMPLEX: Selfish or Selfless?

    How can understanding different aspects of martyrdom help us navigate personal sacrifices and societal expectations in our search for a meaningful life?

    Individuals with a martyr complex often seek validation for their pain and suffering, which can be a source of protection and nurturing. It can also be a form of manipulation where personal suffering is used to influence or control the reactions of others. This behavior can be harmful, leading individuals to persist in unhealthy relationships or dangerous situations under the guise of nobility or duty. It is important to distinguish between healthy self-sacrifice and detrimental martyrdom by gaining a reflective understanding of our motivations and aligning our actions with healthy self-sacrifice. Resolving the complex involves examining personal motives, societal values, and psychological health to foster healthier ways of being and interacting in the world.

    Prepare to discover…what complexities and interpretations surround the concept of martyrdom, revealing its multifaceted nature in both historical and personal contexts; how individuals interpret and internalize the idea of suffering and sacrifice through personal experiences and cultural narratives, shaping their worldview and psychological responses; which factors contribute to someone being viewed as a martyr, including the interplay of religious, cultural, and personal elements that influence the perception of sacrifice; whether the actions associated with martyrdom are motivated by genuine selflessness, psychological needs, or external influences, examining the blurred lines between heroism and victimhood; why the theme of martyrdom resonates deeply across different cultures and epochs, serving both as a source of inspiration and a tool for social and political change…and so much more.

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