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    From the Vault: Monsters of the Shān Hǎi Jīng, Part 2

    enFebruary 17, 2022

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    • Emphasizing Community Connections and Exploring InnovationsBuilding strong community connections is vital during uncertain times. Leverage technology like AI to transform industries and deepen cultural understanding.

      Building and strengthening community connections is essential, especially in uncertain times. Neighbor to Neighbor, a California volunteer network, emphasizes the importance of relying on the people around us for social bonds and disaster preparedness. Meanwhile, in the realm of technology, artificial intelligence is expected to play a significant role in shaping the future. In podcasts like Technically Speaking by Intel and Conversations with UNK, we can explore how AI is transforming various industries and aspects of life. Additionally, ancient texts like the Shan Hai Xing serve as reminders of the richness and complexity of history and culture. In this text, we find tales of gods, monsters, and mythical creatures, offering insights into the ancient Chinese worldview. These examples remind us of the importance of community, innovation, and understanding our past to navigate the present and future.

    • The Ambiguous Depiction of the Dijiang God in Chinese MythologyThe ancient Chinese text, Shanghai Jing, describes the Dijiang god as a mythical creature with ambiguous characteristics, leading to various interpretations due to the complexities of translating ancient texts.

      The ancient Chinese text, Shanghai Jing, contains intriguing descriptions of mythical creatures, one of which is the Dijiang, also known as the god of the Long River. This god, described as having a yellow sack-like appearance, six feet, and four wings, with no face or eyes, has been subject to various interpretations due to the complexities of translating ancient Chinese texts. The term used to describe the god's state, "hundun," can be translated as both chaos and a state of confusion or ignorance. This ambiguity has led to different interpretations of the god, with some commentaries personifying it as a deity of cosmogonic chaos. The illustrations accompanying the text depict the god as a strange-looking creature, often resembling a six-legged ottoman with wings. The god's lack of facial features and bodily orifices is emphasized in parallel texts from the 4th century BCE. The translation process of ancient Chinese texts adds complexity to understanding these mythical creatures and their significance in Chinese mythology.

    • The Hun Dun myth and the complex relationship between order and chaosThe Hun Dun myth reminds us that imposing artificial order on the natural world may harm the natural order and highlights the subjective nature of order and chaos.

      The ancient Chinese myth of Hun Dun, a chaotic deity with no orifices, challenges our perception of order and chaos. The myth tells us that Hun Dun, a being without ears, eyes, mouth, or anuses, was unable to receive gifts or expressions of gratitude from two gods. In an attempt to repay Hun Dun, the gods drilled seven holes into the deity, leading to its death. This myth serves as a reminder that imposing artificial order on the natural world may not be beneficial and could potentially harm the natural order of things. Furthermore, the myth's connection to the Chinese word for wonton and its resemblance to a dumpling or a sack highlights the idea of containment and the boundary between order and chaos. The myth also brings to mind the character Judge Holden from Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, who shares similarities with Hun Dun in his chaotic nature and lack of conventional human features. The myth's interpretation depends on the perspective of the observer, highlighting the subjective nature of order and chaos. Overall, the Hun Dun myth invites us to reflect on the complex relationship between order and chaos and the potential consequences of imposing artificial order on the natural world.

    • The destructive impact of order and control on natural creativity and chaosAttempts to impose order and control can stifle creativity and lead to the loss of magic in creative endeavors

      The pursuit of order and control can lead to the destruction of natural creativity and chaos. This idea is exemplified in ancient Chinese mythology through the story of Hun Dun, who represents primordial chaos, and the attempts of civilization to impose order, ultimately leading to its demise. This theme can also be applied to modern-day creative endeavors, where the imposition of formal structures and professionalism can stifle the organic and improvisational nature of something, causing it to lose its magic. The example of Wayne's World illustrates this idea, where the attempt to turn a lovable, improvised TV show into a slick, high-budget production led to its downfall. The comparison can also be drawn to the goose that lays the golden eggs and the chaos theory. The body of the Di Xiong, a creature from the classic of the mountains and seas, also implies this idea, as its formless and directionless movement and empty body suggest the concept of the universe being created from the body of a dead god.

    • The Daijing: A Chinese Mythological CreatureThe Daijing is a mythological creature in Chinese mythology, interpreted as a symbol of chaos or a benevolent being, associated with the concept of universal chaos before yin and yang, and possibly linked to the figure of Hun Dun.

      The myth of the Daijing, a supernatural bird in Chinese mythology, has been interpreted in various ways throughout history. Some see it as a cosmic confusion or personification of chaos, while others view it as a benevolent creature. The myth also includes the figure of Hun Dun, an evil son of a deity who was banished to the edges of the world to fight demons. The Daijing is also associated with the concept of universal chaos before the birth of yin and yang. Despite the many interpretations, it's important to note that the textual basis for identifying the Daijing with Hun Dun is slim, and both can be seen as unique entities in their own right. The myths serve as a reminder of the complexities and nuances of mythological traditions and the ongoing efforts to understand and interpret them.

    • Community Building and Allergy ReliefNeighbor to Neighbor promotes community connections, while Astepro provides fast allergy relief. LifeLock protects against identity theft, and Dds Discounts offers savings for a spring refresh.

      Neighbor to Neighbor encourages community building through acts of kindness and support, while Astepro provides fast-acting allergy relief. Identity theft is a serious issue, affecting millions each year, making identity protection essential. Dds Discounts offers great deals for a spring refresh. In an intriguing discovery, a faceless fish was found during a deep-sea expedition, adding to the wonders of the natural world. Astepro is the fastest 24-hour over-the-counter allergy spray, offering relief from nasal congestion, runny and itchy nose, and sneezing without the need for a prescription. Neighbor to Neighbor emphasizes the importance of community and connection, while Astepro ensures allergy sufferers can enjoy the spring season symptom-free. LifeLock protects against identity theft, providing alerts for threats that may not show up on credit reports. Dds Discounts offers savings on various items for a home and wardrobe refresh. The discovery of a faceless fish highlights the diverse and fascinating creatures in our world.

    • Deep-sea creatures with hidden eyes and extraordinary sensesDeep-sea creatures like the Cusk Eel and Lookflesh may have hidden eyes and unassuming appearances, but they possess remarkable senses and should be respected.

      The Cusk Eel, a deep-sea creature discussed, has eyes hidden under its skin, giving it a disconcerting appearance. This creature, which was discovered during the Challenger expedition in the late 1800s, has a minimal visible face and is covered in a layer of slime. The lack of visible senses might suggest a chaotic relationship with its environment, but deep-sea organisms actually possess extraordinary senses. It's essential to respect these creatures and avoid causing harm, as seen in the third Creature from the Black Lagoon film. The Lookflesh creature, another denizen of the deep sea, is another bizarre creature mentioned in the book. It's a common sight in the depths, often listed alongside generic elements, and is a symbol of the fantastical and unexplored aspects of the deep sea.

    • Mythical Creature Providing Endless MeatAncient communities found the idea of a self-replenishing meat source appealing, as seen in myths and natural occurrences like the Fistulina hepatica fungus.

      The text discusses the concept of a mythical creature that provides endless meat for consumption, resonating with ancient impoverished rural communities. This creature, described as a mass of flesh with the appearance of a liver and having eyes, is compared to a self-replenishing tablecloth discovered earlier. The creature's eyes add an intriguing element, possibly serving as a reminder of its living nature. The speaker explores examples in nature that mimic raw meat, including the fungus Fistulina hepatica, which looks remarkably like raw liver or meat and even bleeds like it when cut. While edible, opinions on its taste and texture vary. The text suggests that the idea of a constant food source, especially meat, would have been appealing to ancient communities.

    • Nature's surprising adaptations: Corpse flower attracts pollinators with meat-like appearance and smellThe corpse flower's meat-like appearance and smell attract insects, showcasing nature's resourcefulness and creativity in adaptations. Research in lab-grown meat draws inspiration from this natural phenomenon.

      Some organisms, like the Amorphophallus titanum, or corpse flower, have evolved to resemble raw meat not as a coincidence, but as an adaptation to attract pollinators. The corpse flower emits a smell of rotting meat and has a spathe that resembles raw meat to attract insects that are normally drawn to dead meat or carrion. This is an example of how nature can be surprisingly resourceful and creative in its adaptations. Another interesting connection to this topic is the ongoing research and development in the field of synthetic or lab-grown meat, which aims to make "meat" production more sustainable and ethical. The corpse flower's ability to attract pollinators by resembling and emitting the smell of meat is a fascinating example of nature's inspiration for innovation.

    • Exploring the power of meaningful conversations and ancient mythsEngaging in respectful dialogues and learning from others' perspectives can broaden our understanding of life's challenges and foster empathy and self-acceptance. Mythical creatures from ancient texts can symbolize strength and danger, and their enduring appeal highlights the importance of open-mindedness and storytelling in our lives.

      Engaging in meaningful conversations with respected individuals and listening to their perspectives can help us navigate life's challenges. We learned about the importance of empathy and sympathy during these conversations, as well as the value of self-belief and self-acceptance. Additionally, we explored mythical creatures from ancient texts, such as the Zou Wu and the beings from the land of Ghul, and discussed their potential connections to modern culture. These creatures, whether they are depicted as fierce horses or dangerous goblins, have universal appeal and can serve as symbols of strength and danger in various cultures. Overall, these discussions emphasize the importance of open-mindedness, self-reflection, and the power of storytelling in understanding ourselves and the world around us.

    • Chinese Mythology's Brave Pigs and Thoroughly Odd CreaturesChinese mythology includes creatures like porcupines, called 'brave pigs,' and the 'thoroughly odd' or 'Jiangchi,' an ox-like creature with porcupine-like needles and canine howls, which targeted people with long, untied hair.

      Mythology and folklore from various cultures around the world have common themes, such as trolls, ogres, giants, and dragons. One lesser-known creature mentioned is the "brave pig" or "hero pig" from Chinese mythology, which is often translated as a porcupine. Despite popular belief, porcupines do not shoot their quills like projectiles, but rather, animals or people come into contact with them and get quills stuck. Another creature, the "thoroughly odd" or "Jiangchi," is described as an ox-like creature with porcupine-like needles, howling like a dog, and eating people. This creature is said to target those with long, untied hair, which was believed to be the style of demons and shamans during that time. The collection of knowledge about these creatures and other aspects of ancient Chinese culture may have originated from localized shamanistic traditions that were later incorporated into imperial records.

    • Mythical Creatures and Deities in 'Classic of Mountains and Seas'The 'Classic of Mountains and Seas' introduces various mythical creatures and deities, each with significant meanings and omens, such as the Thoroughly Odd, a deity who consumes good people but offers meat to the wicked, and the Vermillion Yan Beast, an omen of war.

      The "Classic of Mountains and Seas" is a rich and intriguing text filled with mythical creatures and gods, many of which hold significant meanings and omens. One such creature is the Thoroughly Odd, described as a deity who consumes good people but offers meat to the wicked. This deity has been compared to the gnostic demiurge or the crappy son of a higher being, reflecting the human tendency to label those who fail or disappoint as inferior. Additionally, the text describes the Vermillion Yan Beast, an omen of war, depicted as an ape with a white head and red feet. These creatures, along with others, serve to illustrate the cosmic patterns and subtle complexities found in the "Classic of Mountains and Seas." The text's illustrations, such as the one of the Vermillion Yan Beast, add to the intrigue and serve as warnings or omens for humans. Overall, the "Classic of Mountains and Seas" is a fascinating exploration of mythology and the deeper meanings behind the creatures and gods it describes.

    • Exploring the Intriguing Creatures of the ShanhaixingThe Shanhaixing is an ancient Chinese text introducing unique creatures like the hundun and dee xiang. Listeners can share insights, artwork, or questions, and merchandise may be created. Subscribe, rate, and review the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast for more fascinating stories.

      The Shanhaixing, an ancient Chinese text, introduces a rich and fascinating world filled with unique creatures and entities. This text has inspired various translations and interpretations, some of which can be found online. The hundun and the dee xiang are just two examples of the intriguing beings described in the Shanhaixing. Listeners are encouraged to share their own insights, artwork, or questions related to this topic. The hosts also mentioned their interest in creating merchandise featuring these creatures. The podcast, Stuff to Blow Your Mind, is available on various platforms, and listeners are asked to rate, review, and subscribe to support the show. Additionally, the episode was sponsored by Neighbor to Neighbor, a California volunteer organization promoting community connections, and Visible, a wireless company offering affordable and transparent plans.

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