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    How to Cope with Loss & Grief ft. Aba Atlas

    en-usDecember 03, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Healing from past lossesAddressing past losses and finding healthy ways to cope with the pain are essential for growth and healing.

      Time may not heal all wounds, but how we treat the wound can make a significant difference. Ab Atlas, a YouTuber and stand-up comedian, shared his experience of losing his father at a young age and how the absence was still felt strongly after almost a decade. He noted that for some people, dwelling in the past can prevent the healing process, making the wound a constant presence in the present. Atlas emphasized that finding a way to deal with the pain and allowing oneself to move forward is essential for healing. He also highlighted the importance of seeking perspective from others when dealing with difficult questions or topics. Overall, the conversation underscored the importance of addressing past losses and finding healthy ways to cope with the pain to allow for growth and healing.

    • Acceptance and ongoing feelings of lossAcceptance doesn't always lead to the end of pain or longing, as feelings of loss and sadness can persist even after acceptance.

      Acceptance does not necessarily mean the end of pain or longing. Abba shared his experience of accepting his father's absence, yet still feeling the lingering sadness and longing. Abba and his father had a complicated relationship, marked by a separation during his childhood. Despite his father's efforts to mend the relationship, Abba held onto resentment and harbored a strained relationship with him. Years later, when Abba received news that his father was dying, he was shocked and saddened. Despite accepting his father's passing, the grief remained. This experience challenges the common belief that acceptance leads to a resolution of pain. Instead, acceptance can coexist with ongoing feelings of loss and longing.

    • Exploring the reasons behind unnecessary apologies during sensitive conversationsPeople may apologize excessively in sensitive conversations due to feelings of shame or a desire to meet others' expectations. Past experiences and family dynamics can also play a role.

      The speaker is reflecting on why they might be apologizing unnecessarily during conversations, particularly when discussing sensitive topics related to their past. They are exploring the possibility that this behavior could stem from feelings of shame or a desire to meet others' expectations. The speaker's parents' divorce when they were young is a topic that evokes strong emotions, and they mention their father's unhappiness as a contributing factor. The speaker acknowledges that their understanding of the situation is limited, as many details are kept secret within their family. They also emphasize that they are in control of what they share and do not have to apologize for setting boundaries in the conversation.

    • Grew up in a household with constant criticism and negativityGrew up in a toxic household with frequent criticism from mother, shaping their relationships with parents and siblings.

      The speaker grew up in a household with significant tension and negativity, primarily due to their mother's behavior. She often expressed her unhappiness through toxic behaviors such as nagging, complaining, and negative comments. This constant barrage of criticism wore on everyone in the household, including the speaker and their siblings. The parents had a tumultuous relationship, and the speaker's mother often blamed her husband for her unhappiness. The family moved to Ethiopia when the speaker was young due to financial reasons, and the speaker had limited contact with their father during that time. The speaker's relationship with their siblings varied, with the closest bond being with their older brother. The family's experiences shaped their perceptions of their parents and their relationships with them.

    • The speaker's childhood relationship with her father was marked by distance and uncertaintyThe speaker's relationship with her father during her childhood was characterized by a lack of closeness and a sense of uncertainty, despite his reliability.

      The speaker's relationship with her father during her childhood in Ethiopia was marked by a sense of distance and apprehension. Despite this, she came to understand that he was reliable. Their interactions were not free-flowing or natural, but he was available when she needed him. The speaker reflects on her decisions to reject him and cause him hurt, and questions whether she has truly forgiven herself. She shares an experience of strained communication when she joined the military at age 19, and the emotional distance between them persisted even then. Overall, the speaker's relationship with her father was characterized by a lack of closeness and a sense of uncertainty.

    • The impact of emotional support during challenging timesEmotional support and validation are crucial during tough times, helping individuals get through challenges and achieve their goals. Absence of such support can leave a lasting impact.

      The absence of emotional support during challenging times can leave a lasting impact on an individual's life. The speaker shares his experience of going through basic training without a support system, which made the experience even more difficult. He also recalls the moment he learned his father was proud of him, which brought on a flood of emotions and made him realize the importance of having that validation. The speaker also reflects on how his father's absence before his passing left him feeling unfulfilled and unable to fully mourn. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of emotional support and validation in helping individuals get through tough times and achieve their goals.

    • Understanding a new kind of prideIt takes time to accept and believe in new forms of appreciation, especially when they come from unexpected sources.

      The speaker's father may have been proud of him not just in the moment, but for who he had become and who he was destined to be. The speaker had a hard time accepting this because he felt underappreciated and unsupported in the past, and the idea of his father believing in him was new and unfamiliar. The speaker's inability to believe in this could be compared to the experience of tasting something new and spicy for the first time, which takes time to get used to. The speaker may have had a complicated relationship with his father, and accepting his father's pride could lead to significant emotional changes.

    • Accepting the reality of past experiences and emotionsRecognizing and accepting past emotions can lead to growth and self-understanding, even if it's difficult. Mourning isn't just about loss, but also acceptance of what was and wasn't, which can promote healing and self-compassion.

      Accepting the reality of past experiences and the emotions that come with them, even if it's difficult, can lead to growth and self-understanding. Abba, in the conversation, expresses a deep sense of responsibility for past actions and a conflict between what he intellectually knows and how he feels. He feels a sense of shame and guilt, which he's grown accustomed to. However, when his father, who he hadn't spoken to for years, expressed pride in him before his death, Abba felt a profound sense of gratitude and realization that he had received what he needed in life, even if it wasn't everything. This moment helped him acknowledge the loss he had experienced and the acceptance of that loss could potentially help him move forward. Mourning, in this context, is not just about loss but also about accepting the reality of what was and what wasn't, which can lead to healing and self-compassion.

    • Understanding and acknowledging emotions after a lossAcknowledging and understanding emotions like anger and resentment after a loss can help us process grief and find constructive ways to heal, rather than suppressing them and hindering forgiveness.

      While accepting a loss is a part of moving on, it's important not to suppress emotions like anger and resentment. These feelings are a natural response to loss and can provide insight into our experiences. Holding onto resentment and anger, however, can lead to destructive behavior and hinder the ability to forgive. Instead, acknowledging and understanding these emotions can help us process our grief and find constructive ways to channel them. This can lead to a more authentic and healthy healing process. The speaker shares his personal experience of suppressing anger towards his father due to his loss, but recognizes the importance of allowing himself to feel these emotions in order to fully heal. It's not about dwelling on the negative, but rather acknowledging and understanding the full range of emotions that come with loss.

    • Transforming Negative EmotionsAllow yourself to feel negative emotions, understand their root causes, forgive yourself and others, and use experiences as fuel for growth.

      It's essential to acknowledge and process negative emotions, but also to find a way to transform them into something productive. The speaker suggests that people should allow themselves to feel anger, sadness, or resentment, but not get stuck in those emotions. Instead, they should try to understand the root causes, forgive themselves and others, and find ways to grow from the experience. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of accepting both the good and the bad in life and recognizing that everyone deserves better than what they might have endured. The ultimate goal is to integrate these experiences into one's identity and use them as fuel for personal growth.

    • Acknowledging past adaptationsUnderstand that old defense mechanisms may hinder growth, face fears to heal and move forward, seek help for deeper introspection

      The speaker recognizes the importance of acknowledging and addressing the adaptive yet maladaptive parts of her past experiences. She understands that her anger and defensive mechanisms, which were once survival tools, may now be hindering her personal growth. The speaker also recognizes the fear of the unknown and the need to shed certain aspects of herself to make way for new discoveries. The analogy of war robots provides insight into the role she has played in her life and the need to open up old wounds in order to heal and move forward. Courage and faith in oneself are essential for this process, and the speaker is encouraged to revisit past relationships and consider seeking professional help for deeper introspection. Mentorship is not a priority in this conversation.

    • The importance of mentorship and belongingRecognizing the absence of a loving and supportive family can be as impactful as having one. Mentorship plays a crucial role in navigating life's challenges and finding a sense of belonging.

      Mentorship and the sense of belonging go hand in hand. The speaker shares how his experience of growing up without a strong support system left him feeling alone, even if he didn't realize it at the time. He emphasizes that recognizing the absence of something important, like a loving and supportive family, can be just as impactful as having it in the first place. The speaker uses the analogy of Data from Star Trek to illustrate his point, highlighting that while Data doesn't feel the pain of loneliness like a human would, he still understands the concept and longs for a sense of belonging. The speaker encourages acknowledging the past and moving towards healing and growth, even if it means revisiting old wounds. Overall, the conversation underscores the importance of mentorship and the role it can play in helping individuals navigate the challenges of life and find a sense of belonging.

    • Embrace emotions, don't suppress themPractice observing emotions through meditation, lean on support systems, and remember it's okay to ask for help

      It's important to acknowledge and experience our emotions, rather than suppressing them, and that we don't have to face them alone. We can learn to be the observer of our thoughts and feelings, rather than becoming one with them. This practice, known as meditation, can help us cultivate a stronger sense of self and reduce fear of emotions. Additionally, having a support system and allowing ourselves to lean on others can make the process of moving forward and handling challenges much easier. Remember, it's okay to ask for help and let yourself be vulnerable.

    • Exploring the depths of self through meditationMeditation helps connect with inner self, observe thoughts as supercomputer functions, find clarity and appreciation for existence, and potentially connect with like-minded individuals.

      Meditation can help individuals connect with their inner selves, and the practice can lead to a deeper understanding of one's existence. During meditation, one can observe their observations and realize that they are not the observer but rather a supercomputer utilizing its tools. This supercomputer is not bothered by emotions and can be focused on through various sense organs, such as the eyes. The ultimate goal is to sit with just the supercomputer and observe its functions. Through this practice, individuals may find a sense of clarity and appreciation for their existence. Additionally, meditation may help individuals connect with others who share similar thought processes.

    • Observing Emotions with DetachmentMeditation helps us observe emotions without being affected, a privilege to help others, strengthen detachment through training, and happiness and sadness are equal in enlightenment.

      Meditation is the path to enlightenment, where one can observe emotions and regrets without being affected by them. The supercomputer metaphor refers to this detached perspective. It's essential to practice observing emotions from this perspective, even with a therapist. This detachment can be strengthened through training, and formal meditation classes may be beneficial in the future. However, it's important to remember that being in a position to help others is not something to be taken for granted; it's a privilege. Gratitude can be expressed in a general sense, but not directed towards individuals. Instead, we should acknowledge the choice and effort made by those who choose to help others. Overall, meditation is the key to understanding that happiness and sadness are equal, and enlightenment is achieved when we can observe emotions without being consumed by them.

    • The power of communication and communityReach out for help when needed, find resources through communication and community, and check out Abba and Preach's YouTube channel for further insight.

      The importance of support and connection in times of need. The speaker expressed gratitude for the opportunity to share his experiences and offered encouragement to the listener. He also provided information on where listeners can find his content for further insight. Additionally, he emphasized the value of reaching out for help when needed and offered his own availability for future support. Overall, this conversation highlights the power of communication and community in helping individuals navigate challenges and find resources for growth. You can find the speaker's content on YouTube by searching for "Abba and Preach."

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    Meditation isn’t always about emptying the mind and focusing on the breath alone. This form of meditation is generally known as passive meditation.


    While it is a good idea to train oneself in passive meditation to experience more control and deeper relaxation, it is only one form in a basket full of meditative practices.

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