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    • Exploring the Impact of Anti-Fat Bias on People's HealthAnti-fat bias can have a detrimental effect on the health of overweight people. The belief that being overweight equates to being unhealthy has been present in society for centuries, but there is increasing evidence showing that weight is not always a direct indicator of someone's health. It's important to approach discussions about weight and health with empathy and understanding, instead of perpetuating harmful stereotypes.

      In this Maintenance Phase podcast episode, hosts Aubrey and Mike discuss the conversation around whether being fat is bad for you.They acknowledge that the way thin people and fat people experience this conversation is vastly different, with thin people often approaching it from a place of superiority and fat people feeling shamed and stigmatized.They also highlight that anti-fat bias has a larger impact on fat people's health than their actual physical body weight.It's important to remember that the belief that fat people are unhealthy has been ingrained in our culture for centuries, even before any scientific evidence supported it.

    • Historical biases in assigning health issues to certain groupsEarly studies on the link between weight and health were limited by a lack of representation in the study population, typically involving only wealthy and white individuals. The rise of cohort studies allowed for more representative samples and long-term tracking of health outcomes. It is important to consider these limitations when interpreting scientific data.

      In the past, there has been a moral component and an outgroup component associated with assigning health issues to certain groups of people.For example, diabetes was once known as the "Jewish disease" due to a perceived genetic predisposition in Jewish people.There has also been a historical association between being overweight or obese and negative health outcomes.However, early studies on the link between weight and health were limited by a lack of representation in the study population, typically involving only wealthy and white individuals.The rise of cohort studies allowed for more representative samples and long-term tracking of health outcomes.It is important to consider these limitations when interpreting scientific data.

    • The Importance of Adjusting for Variables When Studying the Impact of Lifestyle on HealthScientists need to consider various variables like income, education, and employment status when assessing the impact of lifestyle on health. Comparing like-with-like is essential for determining the actual effects of specific factors like smoking or obesity. Various correlations like the association between being overweight and a shorter lifespan are often misinterpreted, hence it's vital to analyze all variables and associations to grasp the full understanding of health and lifestyle.

      To understand the impact of lifestyle factors on health, researchers need to adjust for other variables such as income, education, and employment status.Comparing like-with-like enables scientists to determine the true effects of specific factors, such as smoking or obesity.Correlations, such as the association between being very overweight and having a shorter lifespan, are often misinterpreted in popular media.Other variables, such as religion or marital status, can also be correlated with longevity.Therefore, it is important to look at all variables and associations to understand the full picture of health and lifestyle.

    • Obesity and its Place on the Behavioral SpectrumObesity is not simply a behavior, but a characteristic that can be influenced by a range of factors. While it can have negative impacts on health, it cannot be equated with smoking or other specifically linked behaviors. It is important to take into account broader social and contextual factors when considering obesity and its effects.

      Obesity is not a behavior, but a characteristic.People become fat for various reasons and live their lives with diverse habits.Skinny people can also have unhealthy lifestyles.The debate over obesity is where it falls on the spectrum - is it a behavior like smoking that can be linked to health problems, or is it more like having a master's degree, a cluster of other correlations? It's crucial to remember issues outside of the data and contextualize it.An example is how the left-handed study found that left-handed people die nine years earlier than right-handed people, which turned out to be incorrect due to social factors.

    • The Complexities of Obesity and the Importance of Examining all Sides of an IssueKatherine Flegal's research on obesity showed that being slightly overweight could actually reduce the risk of death, challenging the commonly accepted notion that obesity is universally bad for one's health. Flegal's work reminds us to approach sensationalist claims with caution and to consider all perspectives before making conclusions about complex issues like obesity.

      The early 2000s saw a debate about what it actually meant for health to be fat, and Katherine Flegal was one of the earliest people to try and answer this question.While another team at the CDC was making headlines by claiming that obesity caused 365,000 deaths per year, Flegal's work instead showed that obesity caused 112,000 deaths but also reduced deaths by 86,000 because slightly overweight people were less likely to die.This highlights the complexity of obesity and the idea that it's not universally bad for you.Flegal's work reminds us to be cautious about accepting sensationalist claims and to explore all sides of an issue.

    • The Surprising Relationship Between Weight and Mortality RatesWhile some extra weight may offer protection from certain health risks, severe obesity still poses a threat. However, maintaining a healthy weight becomes even more important in old age, as falls and breaks become more common and can have severe consequences. Different studies have elicited a debate on whether weight impact mortality rates.

      While it's commonly believed that being overweight is bad for your health, research shows that being slightly overweight may have a protective effect on mortality rates.In fact, very thin people are more likely to die than very fat people.The most common cause of death and disability in old age is falling down and breaking a bone, especially breaking a hip, and one-third of people who break a hip die within a year.Therefore, having some extra padding on the body may be helpful in this case.However, being severely obese can still lead to negative health outcomes.Two conflicting studies from the CDC have led to a scientific debate about the true impact of obesity on mortality rates.

    • The impact of human error and stigmatization on obesity and mortality researchStudies on obesity and mortality rates may not be accurate due to errors in data entry and methodological concerns. The language used to describe obesity can also be harmful. It's important to critically examine research in this area to avoid stigmatization and inaccuracies.

      Studies on obesity and mortality rates may be flawed due to human error in data entry as well as methodological concerns.These studies often rely only on BMI categories, which can be self-reported and may not be accurate.Additionally, some studies adjust tobacco deaths downward due to smoking being more common in low-income populations, but do not make the same adjustments for obesity deaths.The language used to describe obesity can also be hurtful and stigmatizing, leading to shame and self-harm for those affected.It's important to critically examine the data and language used in studies on obesity and mortality rates.

    • The Danger of Relying on Self-Reported Weight Data and the Impact of Societal Narratives on ObesitySelf-reported weight data can often be inaccurate, leading to misrepresentations in obesity rates. Measuring weight accurately is recommended by researchers. Also, societal narratives can affect our perception of obesity, making it important to base our understanding on research and evidence.

      Self-reported data on weight can be inaccurate, with people often over or underestimating their weight, especially when they are overweight or obese.This can lead to a large number of people being categorized incorrectly when studying the obesity epidemic.In some cases, people in the normal weight category may actually be overweight or obese, meaning that the self-reported data can be unreliable.To combat this issue, researchers recommend using actual measurements rather than self-reported data when studying obesity rates.Additionally, societal narratives and moral panics can affect our understanding of obesity, leading us to believe things without proper evidence or research.

    • The Danger of Biases in Scientific ResearchIt is important for researchers to remain open-minded and critical in their work, as biases can lead to flawed conclusions. The case of Katherine Flegal's study on the health effects of being overweight highlights the influence of personal prejudices in science, and the need for objective analysis to ensure accurate findings.

      The CDC and the Journal of the American Medical Association published a biased study that assumed all deaths of overweight people were caused by their weight.Despite criticism, the study's author, Katherine Flegal, had actually improved upon previous research.However, the head of the nutrition department at Harvard School of Public Health, Walter Willett, a prominent figure in public health, held prejudices against overweight people and wielded his influence to discredit Flegal's work.This reveals the danger of biases in science and the need for researchers to remain open-minded and critical in their work.

    • Overcoming biases for fair evaluation of researchProfessional women researchers often face unfair criticism and dismissal from their male counterparts. Examples like Katherine Flegal's research being criticized unfairly are evidence of deep-seated anti-fat biases that need to be recognized and combated. It is crucial to work towards fair evaluation of all researchers' work irrespective of their gender, body image or health status.

      Professional women are often dismissed by their male counterparts, and in this case, Katherine Flegal's research was criticized unfairly.Despite her well-published senior scientists, the organizers of the symposium refused to let her speak, criticizing her work while conveniently ignoring errors in their own previous research.There is also evidence of deep-seated anti-fat bias, where acknowledging that being overweight may not be as unhealthy as previously thought is viewed as a nightmare scenario.In conclusion, we must be aware of these biases and actively work to combat them to ensure fair treatment and evaluation of all researchers' work.

    • The Need for Critical Thinking: Challenging Commonly Used Measures in AcademiaIt is important to be aware of the limitations of commonly used measures like BMI, which are flawed and can be subject to unfounded attacks. Despite this, researchers continue to use them to ensure their work is considered in the larger conversation on size and health. Critical thinking and awareness are crucial in navigating internal disagreements and biases in academia.

      Academia is filled with internal fights and disagreements, and even award-winning researchers can become the target of unfounded attacks.Katherine Flegal's work on BMI and health was challenged, despite being widely accepted in the scientific community.This highlights the need for critical thinking and awareness of the limitations of commonly used measures like BMI.While BMI is flawed, researchers continue to use it to ensure their work is considered in the larger conversation on size and health.Flegal did a meta-analysis that included 97 studies and 2.9 million people, finding the same results as her previous work despite the attacks.

    • The Flaws in Classifying People into Normal, Overweight, and Obese CategoriesClassifying people into normal, overweight, and obese categories does not account for the gradation within the fat category. There are different classes of obesity, and the lowest class of obesity poses no health risks. BMI for black people is not an accurate measure of health. The classification system needs to be revised to better reflect the nuances of weight and health.

      Studies that categorize people as normal, overweight, and obese do not consider the huge gradation within the fat category.Fat individuals are classified into Class 1, Class 2, and Class 3, obesity - and the lowest class of obesity (the thinnest fat people) don't have any health risks.Until the late 90s, people who are now in the Class 1 obesity category were previously in the overweight category, and people who are now in the overweight category used to be in “normal weight” categories.BMI for black people just doesn't work, and there's no reason to dwell on this issue.Walter Willett attacked Katherine Flegal's study that finds the same thing that her previous study found, and many other studies around the world also found this basic mechanism.

    • The Debate Over Obesity Studies: Risks and FailuresData alone cannot solve the obesity problem. Factors like culture, society, and the economy need to be considered while addressing a healthy eating lifestyle. Sensationalizing research data can create confusion and lead to unhealthy lifestyle practices. Hence, alongside accurate data, policy, and social interventions are necessary to achieve positive results in combating obesity.

      The article discusses conflicting studies on obesity and the dangers of faulty data.Willett argues that studies like Flegal's are dangerous because they could confuse the public and doctors, leading to more weight gain, shorter lifespans, and higher medical bills.However, Aubrey argues that diets and obesity policies have failed to produce positive results over the past 20 years.Additionally, corporations will use any means to prove their point, and research should not be hindered because of their interests.While it is essential to have accurate data, relying solely on data to address the obesity crisis will not work.We need to consider cultural, social, and economic factors and their impact on healthy eating and lifestyles.

    • The Influence of Corporations on Scientific ResearchBiases in scientific research can arise from corporate influence and funding sources. It's essential to critically evaluate the methods used in studies, consider the sources of funding, and any potential conflicts of interest to ensure accurate, reliable results. Being aware of potential biases is crucial to ensure transparency and credibility in scientific research.

      The conversation discusses how corporations can have undue influence on science and research, leading to biased results.The guest, Katherine Flegal, is accused of having ideological motives with no evidence, and her study is criticized for being flawed.It's important to be aware of potential biases in scientific research and consider the sources of funding and any potential conflicts of interest.It's also important to critically evaluate the methods used in studies to ensure that the results are accurate and reliable.

    • Smokers' Exclusion from Studies Skews Data and Harms Marginalized Communities.Studies that exclude smokers risk overlooking the health concerns of marginalized communities that are disproportionately affected by smoking-related illnesses. To generate accurate and effective public health mandates, researchers must account for the inclusion of all smokers, regardless of socio-economic status.

      The argument being made is that removing smokers from studies on human biology skews data and disproportionately removes marginalized communities.Walter argues that in order to get clean data from a study, all current and former smokers must be removed.However, this removes a significant portion of the population, particularly those who are poor, uninsured, or unhealthy.This creates a problem for public health research that works for those who live at or below the poverty line.This reinforces a centering of the bodies of middle-class white people and renders public health mandates ineffective for those who are already at a disadvantage.

    • The Problem with Focusing Solely on Weight for HealthHigher mortality rates among thin or overweight individuals may be caused by preexisting illnesses or medical conditions, not solely their weight. Considering individual health factors, such as polycystic ovarian syndrome or eating disorders, is necessary for accurate research on fatality rates. A more nuanced approach to health is needed beyond prescribing weight loss or gain.

      Many studies show higher mortality rates among thin people, but this is often due to preexisting illnesses, such as Parkinson's or cancer, which cause wasting away.Similarly, some medical conditions or medications can cause weight gain, leading to higher mortality rates for those who are overweight.The focus on weight as the sole indicator of health is problematic and does not consider individual health conditions or circumstances.It's important to account for factors such as polycystic ovarian syndrome or eating disorders during research on fatality rates, rather than solely focusing on weight.It's time to consider a more nuanced approach to health, rather than simply prescribing weight loss or gain.

    • Excluding People With Pre-existing Conditions: How It Affects the Study ResultExcluding people with pre-existing conditions, including obese individuals, leads to biased results in medical research. To avoid misleading outcomes, all data should be considered in statistical analysis.

      The conversation is about a study that excludes people with pre-existing conditions, including fat people.The study removes 90% of the data, and it is claiming to remove bias.However, the exclusion of people with pre-existing conditions leads to a higher mortality rate for fat people, and the study's results are not proven by any evidence.The methodology paper argues that the study's authors are juking the stats to support their bias.This conversation highlights the importance of including all data to avoid bias in studies and research.

    • The Complex Relationship between Obesity and HealthBody size alone is not a perfect indicator of health; individual factors such as genetics and lifestyle also play a role. While overweight and obese people face increased health risks, normal weight individuals still have the lowest mortality rates. A tailored approach to health must consider all aspects of an individual's health, beyond their weight.

      Research on obesity and health often assumes that people who are overweight have chosen to eat unhealthily and that thin people are inherently healthy.However, the reality is more complex, as many factors beyond body size impact people's health.Normal weight people still have the lowest mortality rates, but overweight and obese people also face increased risks.A large study by the BMI collaboration debunked earlier research that attempted to disprove the connection between obesity and health risks.However, even this study had flaws and limitations in its methodology.Ultimately, There is no one-size-fits-all approach to health, and it's important to consider individual factors beyond body size.

    • Bias in Obesity Research Methodologies and ResultsObesity research may be biased in favor of supporting the idea that being overweight or obese is dangerous. Studies have excluded people who die in the first few years, leading to contaminated data. Those in the overweight or Class 1 obesity category have a small risk of mortality and may not need to lose weight. BMIs above 35 or 40 face higher mortality rates and also discrimination.

      The methodologies used to study the effects of obesity may be biased in favor of producing results that support the idea that being fat is dangerous.Walter Willet, a leading figure in obesity research, has himself published studies that exclude people who die in the first few years, which can contaminate data.The risk of mortality for those in the overweight or Class 1 obesity category is small and does not support the idea that these people must lose weight.The much smaller group of people with BMIs above 35 or 40 face much higher mortality rates, but they also face considerable stigma and discrimination.

    • Understanding and Addressing Health Disparities Faced by Poor Black Women.Weight loss alone cannot solve health disparities faced by poor black women. Medical bias and unequal access to comprehensive healthcare must also be addressed. Listening to marginalized communities and approaching issues with empathy and a comprehensive understanding of contributing factors is crucial. The focus should be on providing support and solutions to address the root of the issue, not just weight loss.

      The health disparities faced by poor black women, particularly in regards to obesity and healthcare, are complex and cannot be solely attributed to weight.Medical bias and unequal access to comprehensive healthcare are also significant factors that must be addressed.Simply telling someone to lose weight is not enough - there must be more support and solutions implemented to address the root of the issue.Additionally, some health issues associated with obesity may actually be caused by dieting and weight cycling rather than just excess weight.It is crucial to listen to the experiences and needs of marginalized communities and approach these issues with empathy and a comprehensive understanding of the contributing factors.

    • The Flaws in Dieting ResearchThe pressure to diet is mainly on fat people, but studies on dieting are not reliable. Weight cycling is poorly defined in studies and severe dieting can be harmful. There is no scientific evidence for non-surgical weight loss treatments. Bias may influence researchers' obsession with weight loss and obesity. It's troubling that society promotes one body type and forces people to conform.

      The pressure to diet is mainly on fat people, but studies on dieting are not reliable.Many studies are done on rats or based on outdated cohort studies from the 1990s.Weight cycling, which is common in many people's lives, is poorly defined in studies.Severe dieting can also be harmful, but isn’t measured in weight loss studies.It's troubling that societal institutions promote one body type and force people to conform to it.There is no scientific evidence for non-surgical weight loss treatments.Researchers' obsession with weight loss and obesity may stem from biased beliefs rather than real knowledge.

    • The Complex Debate on Weight and Mortality: Weighing the BiasesThe debate on the relationship between weight and mortality is complex and often influenced by biases. Katherine Flegal's meta-analysis suggested being overweight may not lead to increased risk of death, while Walter Willett argues the analysis did not consider factors such as smoking. It's important for science to consider all factors when making conclusions about weight and health.

      The debate surrounding the relationship between weight and mortality is complex and often influenced by biases.Katherine Flegal's meta-analysis, which suggested that being overweight may not necessarily lead to increased risk of death, was criticized by Walter Willett, who argued that her analysis did not properly account for factors such as smoking.Flegal stands by her work, while Willett accuses her of not engaging with the substance of his critique.Both sides may have their biases, but it is important for science to consider all factors and judgement calls that go into making conclusions about weight and health.

    • Addressing Healthcare Provider Bias Against Fat Patients.Bias towards fat patients is a prevalent issue in the healthcare industry. Treating patients based on health risks can lead to making assumptions based on weight rather than their overall well-being. It's vital for healthcare providers to be aware of their biases and approach patient care with a humanistic perspective. Research disputing science behind these biases exists, reinforcing the need for respect and kindness for all patients.

      The healthcare industry has existing cultural biases towards fat people that are reinforced by science.These biases can lead to treating patients based on their health risks, rather than their overall well-being.This can result in fat people feeling uncomfortable and disliked by healthcare providers, rather than receiving the care they need.It is important for healthcare providers to be aware of their biases and treat all patients with respect and kindness, as being mean to people is bad for their health.The science behind these biases is flawed and disputed, so it's crucial to approach patient care with a humanistic perspective.

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