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    Jonathan Martin: The Antibodies Resisting the Virus

    en-usOctober 24, 2023

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    • Republican Party Faces Continued Leadership Crisis and Legal Consequences for Trump AlliesThe GOP is in the midst of a third attempt to elect a new speaker, while Trump allies face legal consequences for their role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election results, highlighting deepening divisions within the party and the consequences of challenging the democratic process.

      The House Republican leadership crisis continues, with the GOP on their third attempt to elect a new speaker, as Jenna Ellis, a former lawyer for Donald Trump's 2020 campaign, became the latest high-profile figure from Trump's inner circle to plead guilty to illegally conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia. This development further underscores the deepening divisions within the Republican Party and the increasing number of Trump allies facing legal consequences for their actions related to the election. The ongoing turmoil in the House and the legal troubles of Trump's associates serve as a reminder of the challenges facing the Republican Party and the consequences of the efforts to undermine the democratic process.

    • Georgia election investigation leads to guilty pleas from key figuresProsecutors use racketeering statute to pressure individuals, who cooperate for lenient sentences, while Trump's team members prioritize their own interests.

      The ongoing legal proceedings related to the 2020 election allegations in Georgia are resulting in guilty pleas from key figures, including Jen Ellis and Kenneth Cheeseburger. Prosecutors are using a racketeering statute to put pressure on these individuals, who are then cooperating with the investigation in hopes of securing lenient sentences. This strategy, known as the Fonnie Willis strategy, is designed to help authorities get to larger fish in the case. Meanwhile, former President Donald Trump, who has a history of demanding loyalty, may be feeling let down by those who were part of his post-election legal team. Trump's team members, like Ellis and Cheeseburger, are prioritizing their own interests and securing the best possible deals for themselves. Additionally, Trump made headlines recently for his seemingly simple yet unprecedented observation that "us" and "US" are the same thing. This anecdote serves as a reminder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, a cognitive bias where individuals overestimate their knowledge or abilities, often due to a lack of self-awareness.

    • Internal Crisis in the Republican Party: Speaker Election ChaosThe Republican Party's internal crisis is causing chaos in the House of Representatives, with deep divisions between pre- and post-Trump eras, resulting in a fractured party and a prolonged speaker election process.

      The Republican Party is currently facing a significant internal crisis, with a fractured party consisting of remnants of the pre-Trump era and the post-Trump era operating in different wavelengths. This division is causing chaos in the House of Representatives, where the GOP is struggling to elect a speaker after 21 days without one. The party is resembling a European-style parliament trying to form a coalition government, but the deep mistrust and inability to put aside differences are making this a difficult process. The recent rejection of Jim Jordan, Trump's chosen candidate for speaker, by over 20 Republican representatives, highlights the deep divisions within the party and the resistance to more extreme elements taking on leadership roles. The ongoing speaker's race and the parallel primary in the presidential field are evidence of these two distinct parties living uneasily together. The situation is causing embarrassment and paralysis, but some argue that it's the only way the party can stay sane in these turbulent times.

    • The Republican Party's uncertain futureThe Republican Party's identity and direction are uncertain due to Trump's influence and the populist movement, with a potential reformation after a significant setback

      The current state of the Republican Party, specifically in the House of Representatives, is in a state of flux and uncertainty due to the ongoing influence of Donald Trump and the populist movement within the party. The traditional establishment figures, such as Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan, have struggled to navigate this dynamic, and the election of a new speaker, like Tom Emmer, may only be a short-term solution. The long-term identity and direction of the party remain uncertain until Trump's fate is determined. Paul Ryan, a former Republican speaker and representative of the pre-Trump GOP, sees the current party as primarily populist, personality-driven, and focused on muddling through rather than on ideas. The events of the 1980s, when Democrats suffered three consecutive presidential losses, offer a potential parallel, suggesting that a reformation movement may emerge after a significant setback for the Republican Party, such as a Trump loss and potential prison sentence.

    • A large number of inexperienced House Republicans are making it difficult for the party to governInexperienced House Republicans, elected since 2018, prioritize making a point over making a difference, hindering the party's ability to govern effectively. Traditional Republicans, led by Mitch McConnell, resist the more Trump-aligned direction, but their influence is weakening as generational turnover continues.

      The current state of the House Republican Party makes governing unworkable due to a large number of members who prefer to make a point rather than make a difference. These members, who have been elected since 2018, are less experienced in the ways of the majority and governance. However, there are still some "antibodies" or traditional Republicans in the House and Senate who are resisting the more Trump-aligned party direction. These antibodies, led by figures like Mitch McConnell, are trying to keep the party on the Reaganite path on issues like national security and Ukraine. But as the generational turnover continues to occur faster in the House and even in the Senate, the influence of these antibodies is weakening, and the party is becoming more Trump-aligned. If Mitch McConnell were no longer able to serve as leader, it is unclear who would take his place as the chief antibody in the pre-Trump GOP.

    • Mitch McConnell's Departure Could Leave a Void in US International PoliciesMcConnell's departure may weaken US leadership on international issues, particularly regarding Ukraine and Israel, and the ongoing speaker election highlights deep divisions within the Republican Party, impacting government operations.

      Mitch McConnell, the current Senate Republican leader, is an indispensable figure in the ongoing internationalist policies of the United States, particularly regarding Ukraine and Israel. His potential departure could leave a void in terms of leadership, relationships with foreign leaders, and the ability to stand up to "MAGA World" on international issues. Additionally, the ongoing speaker election within the Republican Party showcases the deep divisions within the party, with Tom Emmer currently leading but uncertain if he will reach the necessary votes. The first order of business for the new speaker will be deciding how to handle a continuing resolution to keep the government open.

    • Deeply divided House GOP faces challenges in electing new speakerNavigating partisan divides, the next House speaker must tackle pressing issues while appealing to both pre and post-Trump factions, a challenging task for any candidate due to the unpopular nature of the role.

      The current state of the House GOP is deeply divided, making the process of electing a new speaker a challenging and potentially lengthy endeavor. Kevin McCarthy's failure to secure the speakership due to opposition from within his own party sets a precedent for the upcoming election. The next speaker will need to navigate partisan divides and tackle pressing issues like funding the government and providing aid to Israel and Ukraine. Many potential candidates are hesitant to take on the role due to its thankless nature. Regarding the presidential primary, Ron DeSantis' strategy to appeal to both pre and post-Trump factions proved unsuccessful. His equivocation on certain issues and attempts to outdo Trump on others alienated both groups. This illustrates the current Republican Party's clear divide and the challenge of appealing to both camps. The failure of DeSantis' hybrid approach highlights the importance of making a clear choice in today's political climate.

    • Competing against Trump in the Republican primary is a daunting taskDespite increasing pressure from the money crowd, no clear alternative to Trump has emerged in the Republican primary race for 2024. Building a coalition of various groups is necessary but challenging. Key states like Iowa and New Hampshire will play a crucial role in determining the outcome.

      The Republican primary race for the 2024 nomination is not an easy task for any contender looking to unseat Donald Trump. It requires building a coalition of various groups, from never-Trumpers to establishment Republicans, which is not an easy feat. Many candidates have struggled with this in the past, including Kasich, who was criticized for being a bad candidate and exhibiting magical thinking that something would happen to make Trump disappear. The race is fast approaching November, making it less likely for an alternative to emerge, especially if they don't defeat Trump early in key states like Iowa or New Hampshire. The pressure from the money crowd to find an alternative to Trump is increasing, but the candidates seem to be focused on attacking each other instead of Trump. The 2016 election vibes are strong, and it remains to be seen who will drop out of the race and who will emerge as a viable alternative to Trump. At this stage, it seems that DeSantis or Cruz could be the most likely alternatives, but the next few months will be fascinating as the race heats up.

    • The speed of political races and the role of moneyModern politics can see rapid shifts in support, with endorsements, debate performances, and information spread playing significant roles, potentially making money a secondary factor.

      While money can play a role in influencing the outcome of a political race, it may not be the deciding factor. The dynamics of modern politics, including the way information spreads and the importance of endorsements and debate performances, can lead to a rapid coalescence of support around a particular candidate. This was evident in the 2020 Democratic primary, where Joe Biden effectively secured the nomination within a matter of days after strong showings in key primaries. However, it's important to note that the analogy between stopping Trump and what happened with Bernie Sanders in 2020 has its limitations, as Trump's popularity and base of support are significantly different from Sanders'. Nevertheless, the model of a fast coalescence of support around an anti-Trump Republican candidate remains a potential path for those looking to challenge the former president.

    • Biden's campaign reluctance to address age issueBiden's age is a major concern for voters, yet his campaign has not directly addressed it, potentially making it a liability in the upcoming election

      The issue of Joe Biden's age is a significant concern for many voters, both within the Democratic Party and among swing voters. Despite this, Biden's campaign has not directly addressed the issue, and there seems to be a reluctance to do so even at the research level. This cavalier attitude could be problematic for Biden, as his age is the primary defining factor for many voters, often overshadowing any accomplishments or qualifications he may have. This was illustrated in a Politico piece that highlighted the lack of focus on addressing the age issue, despite its potential impact on Biden's reelection prospects. The piece drew a comparison to the 1991 Louisiana gubernatorial race, where then-Democratic incumbent Edwin Edwards was running against the controversial David Duke. In that race, Edwards, who had a questionable moral record, was seen as the lesser of two evils, and a bumper sticker campaign encouraging voters to "Vote for the crook: it's important" emerged. Similarly, Biden may need to confront the age issue head-on to prevent it from becoming a major liability in the upcoming election.

    • Unconventional Tactics in Politics: 'Vote for the Crook'Candidates are using unconventional tactics to rally their base, such as 'Vote for the Crook' and ankle bracelets, reflecting the changing political landscape and the need for both sides to adapt

      The political landscape has shifted significantly since the days of Scott Walker and Paul Ryan, with candidates using unconventional tactics to appeal to voters. During the recent Louisiana gubernatorial race, the Republican candidate used the tagline "Vote for the Crook: It's Important" to rally his base. This approach, while unconventional, was effective in galvanizing support. The question now is whether Democrats can come up with an equivalent message that resonates with voters. Trump has also employed similar tactics, using symbols like an ankle bracelet to rally his base. These developments mark a stark contrast to the past, and it's clear that the political landscape will continue to be unpredictable. In essence, candidates are willing to go to great lengths to win over voters, and it's up to each side to adapt and respond accordingly. The Bulwark podcast, produced by Katie Cooper and engineered and edited by Jason Brown, will continue to cover these developments and provide insightful analysis.

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