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    Justin Singer - How Regulation Unlocks Opportunity - [Founder’s Field Guide, EP.2]

    enOctober 08, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Regulation and Business OpportunitiesThe best business opportunities arise when there's a significant demand, regulatory unlocking event, and a regulatory framework that determines market quality and competition.

      Regulation plays a crucial role in creating or destroying business opportunities. Justin Singer, the founder and CEO of Caliper Foods and Stillwater Brands, shares his unique perspective, having a background in both business and law. He believes the best venture opportunities arise when there is a significant demand, regulatory unlocking event, and the regulatory framework determines the market's quality and competition. Examples of this include the telecom spectrum auctions in the late 1990s and early 2000s, which opened up a whole new marketplace and led to substantial economic activity. Microsoft for Startups, a global program dedicated to helping B2B startups scale, also emphasizes the importance of regulation, providing access to technology and a streamlined path to selling alongside Microsoft and their global partner ecosystem. For startups, compliance with regulations can be simplified through tools like Vanta, which makes it easier to obtain and maintain SOC 2 reports.

    • Regulatory changes unlock opportunities and provide certainty for businessesRegulatory changes can significantly impact market growth and create new industries. Examples include the funds industry from capital gains tax changes, the reorganization industry from bankruptcy laws, and the supplement industry from the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act. Paying attention to regulatory landscape is essential for investors.

      Regulatory changes have a significant impact on market growth and the creation of new industries. The passage of laws and regulations can unlock opportunities and provide certainty for businesses to thrive. For instance, the inversion of capital gains tax rates led to the explosion of the funds industry, while the reorganization and turnaround industry flourished after the bankruptcy laws were passed. Similarly, the Dietary Supplement Health Education Act of 1993 contributed to the growth of the supplement industry. The Communications Decency Act's Section 230, which protects online platforms from liability for user-generated content, is another example of a regulatory change that unlocked the potential of user-generated content platforms like Facebook and Twitter. While it may not be feasible for investors to have a dedicated analyst solely tracking regulatory changes, it is essential for them to pay attention to the regulatory landscape and its potential impact on markets and industries. Technology alone cannot create a market; the law and regulatory frameworks provide the foundation for competition and economic activity. The history of Section 230 illustrates this, as it was a seemingly minor part of the Communications Decency Act that ended up having a significant impact on the tech industry.

    • Rules and regulations create a fair and competitive marketplaceRules and regulations are necessary for creating a fair and competitive marketplace by establishing a shared understanding of rights, contracts, and rules, allowing for effective market functioning and regulatory change to keep markets competitive and innovative.

      Rules, laws, and free markets are interconnected. While a free market may seem desirable, the absence of rules and regulations can lead to chaos and inequality. Using the example of football, the implementation of rules and regulations transformed the game from a dangerous free-for-all into a structured competition with clear rules and a level playing field. Similarly, in economics, markets require a shared understanding of rights, contracts, and rules to function effectively. Regulatory change is crucial in keeping markets competitive and innovative. Recent examples include the rise of Uber and the ongoing efforts of crypto and blockchain to gain government recognition. These industries understand that some form of government sanction is necessary for their success. In essence, rules and regulations are essential for creating a fair and competitive marketplace.

    • Impact of legal frameworks on business successThe intersection of technology, regulation, and emerging markets can lead to unique investment opportunities, where the lack of structure and clear guidelines presents both challenges and opportunities.

      The success of businesses like Uber and Lyft, which rely on the use of independent contractors at a massive scale, is deeply connected to the legal frameworks that allow for such relationships. This was highlighted in the discussion about the impact of California's AB 5 law on these companies. Similarly, in the cannabis industry, there is a significant opportunity for investors due to the rapidly changing regulatory landscape and lack of established expertise or guidelines. The speaker's personal experience of being dismissed by investors due to the stigma surrounding cannabis, but seeing the potential in the sector, illustrates this point. The intersection of technology, regulation, and emerging markets can lead to unique investment opportunities, where the lack of structure and clear guidelines presents both challenges and opportunities.

    • The early days of legal cannabis industry lacked business controls and understandingThe legalization of cannabis brought inexperienced investors and participants, leading to a lack of business controls and understanding in the early days of the industry.

      The legalization of cannabis brought an influx of investors and participants into the industry, many of whom lacked the necessary experience and understanding to build responsible businesses. In the early days, the industry was filled with renegades who were willing to take significant risks, but as the market became legalized, investors treated it like any other market and looked for established leaders to invest in. However, the largest players in the illegal market were not necessarily the best equipped to build responsible businesses with good accounting practices, governance, and project management. The industry has evolved dramatically since then, but it's important to remember that not everyone in it has the necessary expertise and experience to navigate its complexities. The early days of the industry were characterized by a lack of business controls, a focus on illegal activities, and a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a successful business in a highly regulated industry.

    • Marijuana Industry's Complexities: THC Industry's 50 Different IndustriesInvesting in branded goods for consistent experiences is a profitable strategy in the marijuana industry due to complexities and unique regulations in each state.

      The marijuana industry is complex and involves various intricacies in its supply chain and value chain. The THC industry, in particular, is made up of 50 different industries due to each state's unique laws and market structures. To illustrate, the THC industry in Colorado follows a three-tiered system based on alcohol, consisting of cultivators, processors, and retailers. However, there are no co-manufacturing or distribution infrastructures, making it challenging to produce and distribute products. Cultivation, while profitable in the early stages, is not a sustainable long-term business model due to market maturation and price elasticity. Instead, investing in branded goods, which provide a consistent experience, is a more generalizable and profitable strategy. Overall, the marijuana industry requires extensive planning, resources, and understanding of each state's regulations to navigate its complexities.

    • The early challenges of the cannabis industryHistorical factors including regulatory, social, and industrial issues made it difficult for small-scale cannabis operations to thrive in the US.

      The cannabis industry faced significant challenges in its early days due to a combination of regulatory, social, and industrial factors. The US's evolution into a co-manufacturing infrastructure for consumer goods created a mismatch in scales, making it difficult for small-scale cannabis operations to thrive. Additionally, the long-standing social stigma and racist origins of marijuana prohibition further complicated the industry's development. The lack of political will to reschedule marijuana, even with growing public approval, also hindered progress. It's fascinating to consider how these historical events have shaped the cannabis industry as we know it today. It's important to recognize that the concept of a drug is a mental frame, and understanding the complex history behind marijuana's illegal status can help challenge misconceptions and promote more informed discussions.

    • Understanding the unique properties and effects of marijuana, THC, and CBDOld research on marijuana should be approached with caution due to individual differences, THC acts as a light anxiolytic at low doses and a psychoactive substance at higher doses, CBD has no effect on some people, the legal THC industry is much larger than CBD, lack of regulation in CBD industry raises concerns, new research clarifies effects and dosages

      While marijuana, THC, and CBD all affect physiology, their safety profiles and effects vary greatly. Old research on marijuana and its effects should be approached with caution due to individual differences in absorption and response. THC and CBD have different effects at various doses, with THC acting as a light anxiolytic at low doses, a psychoactive substance at higher doses, and CBD having no effect on some people. The legal THC industry is much larger than the CBD industry, with estimated revenues in the tens to hundreds of billions for THC and potentially billions for CBD. However, the lack of regulation in the CBD industry raises concerns about product safety and consistency. New research is shedding light on the pharmacokinetics of these substances, helping to clarify their effects and dosages. Overall, understanding the unique properties and effects of these substances is crucial for their safe and effective use.

    • Unlocking potential of marijuana and CBD industries through regulationRegulation can help establish a more robust and structured supply chain, enabling production and sale of a wider range of cannabis products with consistent dosages and safety profiles, increasing the potential of CBD market and discovery of new cannabinoids.

      The marijuana and CBD industries are still in their infancy and hold significant untapped potential, largely due to the lack of regulation and standardization. Regulators can help unlock this potential by implementing regulations that allow for a more robust and structured supply chain, enabling the production and sale of a wider range of products with consistent dosages and safety profiles. The CBD market, in particular, has much to gain from this, as many current products have low bioavailability and uncertain effects. The long-term opportunity lies in the discovery and commercialization of new cannabinoids, which could provide significant value for entrepreneurs and investors. The fragmented nature of the industry presents an opportunity for smaller players to innovate and capture market share before the big brands can enter the space with their full marketing and distribution capabilities.

    • Cannabis Industry: Opportunities for Small BusinessesSmall businesses can thrive in the cannabis industry by offering personalized experiences, focusing on innovation, and investing in quality production and research.

      The cannabis industry presents unique opportunities for small businesses due to the complexities and regulatory challenges that large corporations find difficult to navigate. Bud tenders play a significant role in driving sales, making the personal experience a key differentiator. Small-scale production and innovation are currently advantageous, as big players lack the infrastructure and knowledge to enter the market effectively. The competitive frontier for businesses lies in producing a consistent, high-quality product through specialized research and development. Rushing to scale without proper understanding and investment in the industry's infrastructure can lead to costly mistakes. In summary, the cannabis industry's complexities provide opportunities for small businesses to succeed through personalized experiences, innovation, and a focus on quality and capabilities.

    • Regulatory changes for THC and CBD industriesUncertain timeline for clearer regulations, improved consumer safety, and increased access to banking services for THC and CBD industries, with potential for impressive margins and significant growth

      The regulatory landscape for THC and CBD industries is expected to undergo significant changes in the near future, potentially leading to clearer regulations, improved consumer safety, and increased access to banking services. The timeline for these changes is uncertain, but optimism is high, especially considering the progress made during the past few years under anti-marijuana administrations. For businesses in these industries, especially manufacturers like Stillwater Brands, the margins are impressive, with EBITDA reaching 30-40%. Despite the lack of traditional performance marketing channels like Google and Facebook, operational control is a key focus, allowing for strong EBITDA despite high transaction costs. Overall, the future looks promising for these industries, with potential for significant growth and improvement.

    • Navigating complex business environmentsStay persistent, adaptable, and focused on market needs to succeed in complex business environments. Understand market realities and adapt to them to create high-margin products.

      Navigating complex and challenging business environments requires a focus on good processes and realistic expectations. The speaker in this discussion emphasizes the importance of paying attention to details and being wary of optimistic promises that may not materialize. They share a personal experience of creating a cannabis tea product for elderly consumers, which faced resistance due to market realities and low-margin issues. Despite initial setbacks, they pivoted and focused on creating a high-margin product to appeal to budtenders and the core customer base. This experience underscores the importance of understanding market realities and adapting to them in order to succeed. Additionally, the speaker emphasizes the importance of having a clear target customer and creating a product that caters to their specific needs. Overall, the key takeaway is to remain persistent, adaptable, and focused on the needs of the market in order to succeed in complex and challenging business environments.

    • Identifying market structures and creating intentional businessesCreating businesses with intention can lead to innovative products and solutions. Treat employees as humans, avoid idolizing founders, and build a culture that values decency and competence to avoid investing in fraudulent individuals.

      Identifying market structures and creating businesses with intention can lead to innovative products and solutions, as seen in the creation of Ripple. The need for high-dose products and finding a use for waste transformed what was once considered waste into a growth engine. Additionally, the importance of treating employees as humans and avoiding the idolization of founders as infallible figures is crucial for building a healthy and innovative business. There is currently a "golden era for fraud" where lying and bullshitting are rewarded, but creating a company culture that values human decency and competence can lead to societal benefits and avoid the problem of investing in atrocious human beings who are carried by competent team members. To avoid investing in such individuals, investors should create decision-making structures that look for potential landmines and raise the floor of those they hire, rather than relying on intuition alone.

    • Assessing integrity and willingness to play games with the truth in hiringFlexibility, adaptability, and continuous learning are crucial for navigating complex industries and making informed decisions. Assessing integrity and willingness to play games with the truth in hiring can help mitigate risks, while considering multiple potential outcomes and playing counterfactuals can aid in decision-making.

      While it's impossible to hire a perfect person or predict the outcome of complex situations with certainty, we can create a hiring process to assess integrity and willingness to play games with the truth. Additionally, considering multiple potential outcomes and playing counterfactuals can help avoid being overly attached to a specific outcome. The importance of adaptability and continuously expanding options was emphasized, as well as the complexity and variability of the cannabis industry, which requires ongoing learning and adaptation. The philosophy of friction, understanding how concepts operate at different scales, and the potential transferability of lessons across markets were also discussed as important considerations. Overall, the key takeaway is the importance of flexibility, adaptability, and continuous learning in navigating complex industries and making informed decisions.

    • The impact of mentors and investors on entrepreneurs' livesMentors and investors can provide crucial support, enabling entrepreneurs to start families, move cities, and build successful companies. Cloud technology allows small teams to develop enterprise-level applications with minimal resources.

      Kindness and timely support from mentors and investors can have a profound impact on an entrepreneur's career and personal life. Evan Reiser shared a story about Roger Ehrenberg, who paid for him to be an intern at IA, enabling him to move back to New York, start a family, and eventually build a successful company. On a different note, in the tech industry, the shift towards cloud adoption has made it possible for small teams to build enterprise-ready applications with minimal resources. Evan mentioned how Microsoft 365 and higher-level services like Azure AI Cognitive Services have allowed his company, Abnormal Security, to quickly develop and deploy world-class applications. When starting Abnormal Security, Evan and his team focused on speed to market and used what they were most familiar with, but they soon realized that choosing the right cloud infrastructure was not just a technology decision, but a business decision. They opted for Azure due to its security and privacy features, allowing them to focus more on solving customer problems rather than rebuilding commodity technology.

    • CEO's Azure investment driven by business considerationsCEO saw value in reducing marketing costs, aligning with Microsoft ecosystem, and offering Azure credits to reward customers

      For this enterprise technology CEO, the decision to invest in Microsoft's Azure platform was driven primarily by business considerations rather than technological ones. The CEO highlighted the importance of reducing marketing and customer acquisition costs, and the value of aligning with the Microsoft ecosystem to increase customer success rates. The Azure Cosell program, which helps sell Microsoft solutions and solve customer problems, was cited as a significant business benefit. Additionally, the CEO saw an opportunity to reward customers for investing in the Microsoft ecosystem by offering Azure consumption credits. Ultimately, the CEO recognized that cloud infrastructure was a business decision, and brought it to the board to ensure alignment with the company's overall strategy.

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