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    Landon Cassill, NASCAR Marketing & Paying NCAA Athletes | #AskGaryVee Episode 209

    enJune 06, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • From go-karts to NASCAR: A young driver's journeyPassion and dedication from a young age, topped with a clear vision, can help one achieve unconventional goals like becoming a NASCAR driver.

      Passion and dedication from a young age can lead to achieving big goals, even in unconventional fields like NASCAR racing. Landon Castle, a NASCAR driver in the Sprint Cup series, shared his story of growing up around cars and racing from a young age in Iowa. He started in go-karts and worked on his cars every day, even skipping school dances. By the time he was 15 or 16, he knew he wanted to be a NASCAR driver and worked towards making it a reality, despite not knowing how. This illustrates the importance of putting in the necessary work and having a clear vision for one's goals, no matter the obstacles.

    • From racing at 12 to NASCAR driverDetermination and hard work at a young age can lead to significant opportunities in racing, even testing for major teams and eventually racing in the Sprint Cup Series.

      Determination and hard work can lead to significant opportunities, even at a young age. The speaker, a NASCAR driver, shares his journey starting from racing regularly from the age of 12, knowing he wanted to be a NASCAR driver, and eventually getting national media attention and testing for manufacturers. At 16, he tested with Chevrolet and was signed by Hendrick Motorsports, becoming Jimmy Johnson's test driver. Although he wasn't racing full time, testing for Hendrick built his resume, leading to opportunities with underfunded teams. The speaker started racing in the Sprint Cup Series in 2010 and met the interviewer through a mutual friend, Caleb Clark, who had introduced them years ago when Caleb represented the speaker when he was 15. In the NASCAR world, drivers are responsible for their own brand and revenue, with logos on the car improving performance and vice versa. The speaker's expertise in social media marketing is now being applied to his player's union in this role.

    • Leverage behind-the-scenes content for popularity and successCreating authentic, unique content can lead to significant growth in popularity and success, especially in niche fields like NASCAR

      Creating authentic, behind-the-scenes content can lead to significant popularity and success, much like what Gary Vaynerchuk did with DailyVee and what reality TV stars have done in their respective fields. The key is having the right personality, being a good person, and having access to unique stories or experiences. NASCAR, with its massive following, presents an excellent opportunity for aspiring content creators to replicate this model and potentially become one of the most popular figures in the sport within a few years. It's all about storytelling and providing access to the real, untold stories that fans crave.

    • Social media's impact on careers in sports industryEngage with fans, leave comments for collaborations, learn from top stars' social media presence

      Social media can significantly impact one's career, particularly in the sports industry. The speaker shared his personal experience of how using Snapchat to tell a story of his day led to exposure and potential opportunities in NASCAR. He emphasized the importance of engaging with fans and leaving a comment for those interested in collaborating. Although he encouraged doing work to make things happen, he also acknowledged that financial ability might be a factor. The speaker also mentioned Dale Earnhardt Jr. as an example of a successful social media presence in NASCAR, appreciating his smart team around him. He suggested analyzing how top stars in NASCAR handle social media to learn and improve.

    • Older athletes and sports organizations resist social media sponsorshipTraditional sponsorships are being challenged by social media, with NASCAR making strides but resistance remains, and the NCAA's policy restricting athlete monetization is a contentious issue.

      While some athletes and sports organizations are effectively utilizing social media platforms like Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat to engage with fans and expand their reach, there is a resistance from older athletes and organizations to adapt to these new forms of sponsorship and fan engagement. This resistance is particularly noticeable in sports like NASCAR, where traditional forms of sponsorship through appearances have long been the norm. However, NASCAR as a whole is making strides in embracing social media, with impressive Snapchat stories during race weekends. Another contentious issue in the sports world is the NCAA's policy restricting athletes from earning sponsorships and monetizing their social media presence. Many argue that these athletes, who bring in significant revenue for their universities, should be compensated. The debate around this issue is ongoing, with strong opinions on both sides. Ultimately, the ability to effectively engage with fans through social media is becoming a crucial factor for athletes and organizations looking to succeed in today's sports landscape.

    • College Athletes Deserve Fair CompensationCollege athletes generate revenue but face uncertain futures and unfair compensation, universities should prioritize education, and the current system needs reevaluation.

      While college athletes are generating significant revenue for their universities through TV deals and merchandise sales, many of them are not being fairly compensated and face uncertain futures after college. The speaker raises concerns about the potential consequences of paying college athletes, particularly for those who do not make it to the professional level. However, they also acknowledge the current imbalance in financial gains between universities and athletes. Ultimately, the speaker believes that universities should prioritize higher education and argues that the current system needs reevaluation to ensure fairness and balance.

    • Building Strong Relationships: Listening, Communication, and AdaptabilityEffective communication, listening skills, and adaptability are essential in building strong relationships, whether personal or professional. Finding complementary partners is crucial for success.

      The speaker values the relational aspect of both personal and business relationships more than the initial attraction or love aspect. He believes that the ability to listen, communicate effectively, and adapt (as in the concept of 5149) are crucial elements in building strong relationships. In the context of NASCAR, he explains that while social media provides an opportunity to show personality and connect with fans, the need for corporate sponsorship can limit drivers' ability to fully express themselves. Ultimately, the speaker emphasizes the importance of finding complementary partners in both personal and professional relationships, where each person brings unique strengths and capabilities to the table.

    • NASCAR drivers' daily struggle with sponsorshipsDrivers face challenges in securing sponsorships due to their busy racing schedules and lack of parity in NASCAR, leading to fan disengagement.

      For NASCAR drivers and teams, securing sponsorships is a full-time job that requires a significant amount of time and effort. The driver in the discussion spends every day thinking about it but faces challenges in executing due to his busy racing schedule. Balancing the business side of hustling for sponsorships with the demands of racing is a constant struggle. NASCAR is working to improve parity in the sport to help teams like his, but the lack of parity is a significant challenge. The driver also expressed interest in understanding why NASCAR fans who were once engaged with the sport have since disengaged.

    • Speaker's casual approach to watching the raceSpeaker only tunes in to specific parts of the race that were scheduled in advance, indicating a preference for efficiency and practicality over emotional engagement.

      The speaker in this conversation is not expressing any deep emotions or attachment towards the topic being discussed. He mentions that he doesn't watch the entire race on TV and only tunes in for specific parts because they were scheduled in advance. He also repeats the number "one" multiple times, indicating a lack of interest or engagement in the conversation beyond the necessary responses. Despite this, he maintains a polite and respectful tone throughout the interaction, acknowledging the other person's questions and answering them as needed. Overall, this conversation suggests that the speaker values efficiency and practicality over emotional connection or engagement.

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