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    Lessons from Gaza for war against Hezbollah? - with Haviv Rettig Gur

    enApril 01, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • Potential Direct War Between Israel and IranThe Biden administration's approach towards Israel involves arms transfers while engaging in political confrontations, leading to a $1 billion arms deal despite concerns over civilian casualties, due to mistrust and shared goal of concluding conflicts

      The ongoing conflict between Israel and Hezbollah, which is seen as an extension of Iran, could lead to a direct war between Israel and Iran, making it a matter of existential importance for Israel. The Biden administration's approach towards Israel involves supplying it with arms while also engaging in political confrontations. A recent arms transfer of $1 billion worth of bombs and fighter jets to Israel, despite concerns over civilian casualties in Gaza, underscores the administration's stance on weapons transfers. The lack of trust between the Biden administration and Israeli leadership, particularly over the conduct and conclusion of the ongoing conflicts, may be a reason for this arms transfer. The Israeli intention to bring the conflict to a good conclusion once the opposing forces are removed aligns with the Biden administration's perspective. The situation in Gaza serves as a prelude to potential developments in Lebanon and beyond.

    • Israeli-American disagreement on post-Hamas GazaThe US and Israel agree on removing Hamas but disagree on post-Hamas plans, with Israel wary of Arab peacekeepers and the US considering arms deals to show support, raising political questions

      Despite agreement between the Americans and Israelis on the need to remove Hamas from power in Gaza, there is profound disagreement on how to proceed after Hamas' removal. The Israelis are wary of an Arab peacekeeping force in Gaza, fearing it could hinder their ability to degrade Hamas through intelligence and targeted operations. Gallant, a high-ranking Israeli military officer, recently visited Washington and returned with a significant arms deal, which some view as Biden playing divide and conquer with Netanyahu. However, the Biden administration's authorization of these arms transfers, amid ongoing tensions with the progressive base of the Democratic Party over Israel, raises political questions. Israelis are encouraged to provide clarity on their post-Hamas plans to help the US provide backing with confidence.

    • Israeli public's support for military strategy against Hamas and Hezbollah remains strongDespite Netanyahu's unpopularity, Israelis trust their military's approach to defeating Hamas and Hezbollah, with support increasing when a less trusted leader takes power. Israel's military is actively targeting Hezbollah in Lebanon and has entered a 'hunting' phase.

      The Israeli public's support for the military strategy against Hamas in Gaza remains strong, regardless of who is in power. Netanyahu may be unpopular, but the war cabinet's approach to winning the war is not. This was evident in a poll from Hebrew University which showed that when a less trusted leader replaces Netanyahu, the Israeli public's conviction in the strategy increases. Additionally, Israel's military actions against Hezbollah in the north have escalated, with Defense Minister Gallant openly stating that Israel is now in a "hunting" phase rather than just absorbing attacks. The Israeli military has been targeting Hezbollah further into Lebanon, and Gallant has publicly announced that they will go after the organization in places like Beirut and Damascus. The Rafah operation, which is expected to happen soon, is likely to be quick, but the northern war cannot be avoided.

    • Hezbollah's commitment to the resistance prevents peaceful resolutionHezbollah's unwillingness to withdraw from the border and Israel's preparations for conflict make a peaceful resolution between the two unlikely.

      The ongoing tension between Israel and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon is unlikely to be resolved peacefully, as Hezbollah refuses to withdraw from areas near the border due to its commitment to being the vanguard of the resistance. This stance is deeply rooted in the radical Muslim world's discourse, which views Israel's actions as an opportunity to further the Islamic push to redeem Islam through the destruction of Israel. Hezbollah's leadership, Nasrallah, cannot back down without compromising his claim to being the vanguard of the resistance and risking the collapse of his organization's strategy. Israel, having learned from the high civilian costs of its war in Gaza, may prepare for a potential conflict in southern Lebanon, and Hezbollah, in turn, is also readying for war. The psychological and strategic factors driving both sides make a peaceful resolution seem unlikely.

    • Israeli army's contrasting approaches in Gaza conflictsIsraeli army learned from past mistakes, reducing civilian deaths and increasing enemy fatalities in 2014 Gaza conflict

      The Israeli army's approach in the 2008-2009 Gaza conflict, which relied heavily on air strikes, resulted in a high civilian death toll and failed to effectively address the Hamas tunnel infrastructure. In contrast, the Israeli army's preparation and experience gained during the 2014 Gaza conflict allowed them to develop new skills and tactics for urban warfare, resulting in a much lower civilian death toll and a higher Hamas death toll. Another key takeaway is that the upcoming conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon requires a fast, targeted, and intelligence-savvy approach to take out Hezbollah's strategic capabilities quickly and end the war in a clear way. Additionally, the displacement of civilians in the north of Israel and south of Lebanon creates a cleaner battle space for Israel, allowing for a more effective military response.

    • Israel vs Hezbollah: A Complex and Significant ConflictIsrael faces a complex and significant conflict against Hezbollah, a battle-hardened military force with Iranian backing, putting critical infrastructure and cities at risk.

      The upcoming conflict between Israel and Hezbollah will be a challenging and complex war, as Hezbollah is a well-trained and battle-hardened military force, unlike Hamas. Hezbollah has been engaged in real warfare for years, particularly in Syria, and has a sophisticated and multi-faceted military operation. While Israel has experience in dealing with guerrilla warfare, a standing army versus an organized military like Hezbollah's is a different challenge. The war between Israel and Hezbollah is also significant because it marks the first direct serious war between Israel and Iran, making it an existential conflict for Israel. The war could potentially result in a significant number of rockets falling on critical infrastructure and cities like Tel Aviv, making it crucial for Israel to remove Hezbollah, despite the high costs. The risks to Israel's critical infrastructure are higher in this conflict compared to previous ones with Hamas due to Lebanon not being under Israeli blockade.

    • Hezbollah's Growing Power and Iran's Support in Middle East ConflictIsrael faces a growing threat from Hezbollah in the north due to its increasing power and Iran's continued support. Hezbollah's missile capabilities and proximity to the Israeli border pose a significant concern. Israel must prepare for potential conflict and protect critical infrastructure.

      The situation in the Middle East, particularly regarding the conflict between Israel and its northern neighbors, Hezbollah and Iran, has evolved significantly in recent years. Since Hamas took over Gaza in 2007, Israel has faced a relatively contained threat from that direction. However, with Hezbollah's growing power and Iran's continued support, the situation in the north has become more volatile. Hezbollah, based in Lebanon, has received a significant amount of weapons from Iran, some of which have made it through to the group despite interceptions by Israel and other countries. Hezbollah is capable of launching precise missile attacks on Israeli targets, and it appears willing to do so if it feels its ability to serve its Iranian masters is threatened. This could lead to a major conflict between Israel and its northern neighbors, potentially involving not just Lebanon but also Syria, Damascus, and even farther field. The proximity of Hezbollah to the Israeli border in the north is a major concern, as it allows the group to threaten Israeli communities with short-range, precise weapons. Israel must prepare for the possibility of a major conflict and take steps to protect its critical infrastructure and respond effectively to any attacks. The situation is complex and requires careful planning and preparation.

    • Hezbollah's use of civilian areas for military purposes during conflicts with IsraelHezbollah launches rockets from residential areas in southern Lebanon, leading to civilian casualties and destruction. Israel and UN demand Hezbollah be pushed back beyond Litani River to prevent future attacks.

      The strategy of Hezbollah during times of conflict with Israel involves launching rockets from residential areas in southern Lebanon, leading to civilian casualties and destruction. This tactic was employed extensively during the 2006 Lebanon War and is expected to be used again in future conflicts. To prevent this, Israel and the UN have demanded that Hezbollah be pushed back beyond the Litani River. Meanwhile, Israeli leaders are closely monitoring Iran's weapons programs despite being heavily focused on the ongoing conflict with Hamas. Iran, for its part, has been cautious in its involvement in the region, with some speculation that it may be concerned about the potential impact on its most powerful proxy, Hezbollah.

    • Iran's Nuclear Program Advances Amidst Regional TensionsIran is rapidly advancing its nuclear capabilities, with a new facility potentially housing a deep, heavily fortified nuclear capability, and enough uranium for one weapon and potential for multiple weapons in the future. The Israeli government is concerned about Iran's intentions and the US withdrawal from the region could worsen the situation.

      Iran is rapidly advancing its nuclear weapons capabilities, despite previous assurances to the contrary. While the world's focus has been on conflicts in Gaza and potential tensions with Lebanon, Iran has been pushing toward weaponizing its nuclear program. A new facility is being built in Natanz that could house a deep, heavily fortified nuclear capability, and the country may already have enough uranium for one weapon and the potential for multiple weapons in the future. The Israeli government is increasingly concerned that Iran is not deterred and could threaten a nuclear exchange in the Middle East as a leverage tool. With the US pulling back from the region, this is a dangerous and frightening development that should be a major focus for international efforts to prevent further nuclear proliferation.

    • Iran using proxy destruction as opportunity to advance nuclear programIran is accelerating its nuclear program amidst the destruction of its proxies by Israel. The international community needs to act before it leads to a 'nasty surprise'.

      Iran is using the destruction of its proxies by Israel as an opportunity to push forward with its nuclear program. The International Atomic Energy Agency's director general, Rafael Grossi, has been warning about this, and both Israel and the United States need to refocus on this issue before it leads to a "nasty surprise." The Biden administration may be waiting for a second term to deal with Iran, but Iran is not waiting for them. The Israeli population's safety is at stake, and the potential consequences of inaction could be significant. The discussion also touched on the potential lack of a clear strategy from the Biden administration on Iran. The enemy does not wait for you to be ready, and it's essential to stay vigilant.

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