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    Life’s Meaning Outside of Work - Simone Stolzoff

    enAugust 15, 2024
    How has the meaning of work evolved in recent decades?
    What role does work play in our identity and purpose?
    What constitutes a 'good enough job'?
    How can job crafting improve job satisfaction?
    What challenges do people face in finding fulfilling work?

    Podcast Summary

    • Work and meaningWork can provide identity, purpose, and belonging, but not all jobs need to be a source of joy and excitement every day. Finding meaning and fulfillment can come from mastery, autonomy, and positive impact on others.

      Our relationship with work and the meaning we find in it has evolved significantly over time, particularly in the last few decades. With the decline of traditional institutions like organized religion and community groups, many people have turned to work as a source of identity, purpose, and belonging. Additionally, societal pressure to find a job that we love and the subjective value placed on work in the West can make the search for a fulfilling career feel daunting and even existential. However, it's important to remember that not all jobs need to be a source of joy and excitement every day, and finding meaning and fulfillment in work can come from other sources, such as the sense of mastery and autonomy that comes with developing a skill or the positive impact we can have on others through our work. Ultimately, the key is to find a balance between the practical considerations of a job, such as pay and stability, and the personal fulfillment we derive from it. And as the speaker's personal story illustrates, it's never too late to explore new paths and make a career change if you're not finding satisfaction in your current job.

    • Balancing identitiesInvesting time in various identities and hobbies can lead to personal growth, resilience, and creativity. It's important to not let work consume all aspects of your life.

      It's important to recognize that we are more than just our jobs and that investing time in various identities and hobbies can lead to personal growth, resilience, and creativity. Anis Mojgani, a spoken word poet, emphasized that there's no shame in having a day job to support your passions outside of work. The interviewer shared her experience of feeling lost during weekends after finding joy in her work identity, highlighting the importance of balancing multiple facets of one's life. By exploring different identities and investing time in them, individuals can develop resilience, find inspiration, and live a more fulfilling life.

    • Identity DiversificationEngaging in hobbies and activities outside of work can provide meaning, rejuvenation, and better performance at work, leading to a more fulfilling life. Create a meaningful non-work routine for intrinsic motivation and avoid the hamster wheel of productivity.

      It's essential to diversify your identity beyond work and external sources of validation. The speaker shares his personal experience of relying too heavily on academic performance for self-worth, only to feel insignificant when surrounded by high-achievers in medical school. He suggests that engaging in hobbies and activities outside of work can provide meaning and rejuvenation, leading to better performance at work and a more fulfilling life. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of intrinsic motivation and the need to consciously create a meaningful non-work routine, such as an ideal Sunday, to avoid the hamster wheel of productivity. In essence, building a well-rounded identity can lead to a more sustainable and fulfilling life.

    • Financial safety net and daily learningSetting aside money for emergencies and daily learning are crucial for adapting to life's unexpected expenses and personal growth. Prioritize both to ensure financial stability and intellectual curiosity.

      Having a financial safety net and being able to adapt to life's unexpected expenses is crucial. YNAB, a budgeting app, encourages setting money aside for emergencies and acknowledges that it's okay to overspend occasionally. They also emphasize the importance of aging your money and spending less than you earn. Meanwhile, Brilliant, an interactive learning platform, encourages daily learning and understanding concepts from the ground up. The speaker shares his belief that work should not just be a means to an end but an end in itself, and the importance of having multiple sources of fulfillment in life. He also shares a story about the value of defining oneself by evergreen characteristics rather than productivity or market value. Lastly, the speaker shares his personal commitment to prioritizing physical health as he enters a new decade.

    • Identity buildingInvesting in multiple aspects of identity is crucial for a fulfilling and well-rounded life, avoiding putting all identity eggs in one basket

      Developing valuable identities, much like building career capital, requires dedication and time. These identities, whether it be related to health, fitness, or any other aspect of life, should not be seen as shallow if they are not yet reinforced by behaviors. Instead, they are essential building blocks for a fulfilling and well-rounded life. The quote "some people do what they love for work, and others do what they have to for work, so they can do what they love when they're not working" does not imply an either-or choice, but rather highlights the importance of finding meaning and purpose in various aspects of life. It's crucial to consider how our jobs support our overall vision of a life well-lived and not let work consume our identity. By investing in multiple facets of ourselves, we can avoid putting all our identity eggs in one basket and ensure a sense of fulfillment and happiness, even in the face of unexpected challenges.

    • Finding balance in careerFind a career that aligns with both intrinsic motivations and market demands, define personal purpose, avoid being defined by job, maintain identity and fulfillment.

      It's essential to find a balance between pursuing what the world values and what we ourselves value in our careers. The story of Keihi, a first-generation Cambodian American who continually sought external markers of success, ultimately leading to stress and hair loss, serves as a cautionary tale. Instead, we should aim to find something that aligns with both our intrinsic motivations and the market's demands. It's crucial to ask ourselves what the purpose of work is in the broader context of our lives and not just focus on short-term, falsifiable goals. By defining our own purpose, we can avoid being defined by our jobs and maintain a sense of identity and fulfillment even when faced with challenges. The concept of a "good enough job" can help us navigate this balance, focusing on a role that allows us to be the person we want to be, whether that's measured by salary, personal growth, or the ability to connect with people around the world.

    • Job crafting for meaningJob crafting involves changing mindset and mentality to find joy and fulfillment in one's job, even if it's not one's dream job, and working with boss to make it more meaningful.

      Finding a job that is "good enough" can bring meaning and fulfillment to our lives beyond just the hours spent at work. It's about recognizing the importance of our various identities and investing in our families, communities, and society. This approach can lead to a more robust and resilient sense of meaning for both individuals and larger communities. However, it's important to acknowledge that not everyone has the privilege to prioritize finding their dream job. For many, work is a means to an end, and that's a valid and noble way to approach it. The idea of a "good enough" job is not about settling, but rather about finding a job that allows us to be the person we want to be and invest in the things that matter to us outside of work. When it comes to hating one's job but recognizing its importance in allowing for other sources of meaning, job crafting can be a helpful approach. This involves changing one's mindset and mentality, as well as actively working with one's boss or manager to make the job more enjoyable and fulfilling. Ultimately, the goal is to find a way to connect the job to a greater sense of purpose and meaning.

    • Work and FulfillmentA 'good enough' job that aligns with your values and allows for a fulfilling life can bring happiness and satisfaction, not just a dream job

      While having a dream job can bring happiness and fulfillment, it's not the only way. Many people, particularly millennials and Gen Zs, feel pressure to have their dream job due to societal expectations and comparisons. However, it's important to remember that a "good enough" job, one that aligns with your values and allows you to live a fulfilling life, can be just as satisfying. To help diversify your identity beyond work, consider reflecting on what you value, how you spend your time, and potential regrets. These questions can help guide you towards a more balanced and fulfilling life.

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    In today's episode, I sit down with Johnny Miller to explore the importance of understanding and regulating the nervous system to enhance productivity, joy, and overall well-being. Johnny shares his personal journey through grief and how it led him to study the nervous system.

    We talk about emotional debt, the importance of emotion processing, and much more.

    Enjoy! :)


    (01:18) Understanding the Nervous System
    (06:11) Practical Strategies for Shifting States
    (09:25) Emotional Fluidity
    (10:52) Decision-Making and Emotions
    (14:09) Balancing Responsibility for Emotions
    (19:45) Exploring Triggers and Emotional Debt
    (23:39) Challenging Stoicism
    (30:06) Emotional Regulation Techniques
    (35:19) Triggers 
    (43:05) Grief as a Catalyst for Personal Growth
    (47:57) Exploring Meditation and Breath-work
    (01:14:14) Vulnerability and Connection
    (01:15:12) The Benefits of Men's Groups
    (01:18:00) Shifting Mindset and Ambition with Age
    (01:19:26) The Pursuit of Safety and Progress
    (01:31:57) The Experimental Mindset in Finding What Works


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    🎙 ABOUT THE PODCAST


    Deep Dive is the podcast that delves into the minds of entrepreneurs, creators and other inspiring people to uncover the philosophies, strategies and tools that help us live happier, healthier and more productive lives. 


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    The Pursuit of Wealth: Barista to Billionaire - Andrew Wilkinson

    The Pursuit of Wealth: Barista to Billionaire - Andrew Wilkinson

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    I’ve built a brand new community for like-minded people called Productivity Lab. We’ll have online classes, workshops, and coaching to help you double your productivity. You can find out more here 👉 https://eu1.hubs.ly/H0b1Wpd0


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    In today’s episode, I sit down with Andrew Wilkinson to discuss his incredible journey from barista to billionaire entrepreneur. We explore his insights on money, success, and happiness and how he has navigated the challenges that come with wealth. Andrew shares the concept of anti-goals and the importance of designing a life that aligns with your values and brings joy.

    Enjoy 🙂


    (00:00) The Downsides of Being a Billionaire

    (01:27) The Power of Delegation 

    (08:53) Challenges Associated with Fame

    (23:19) Designing a Fulfilling Life with Anti-Goals

    (28:31) Flow State and Meaningful Work

    (29:01) The Impact of Money on Relationships and Family Dynamics

    (35:19) Navigating Social Circles and Status

    (39:54) The Happiness of Experiences and Time

    (45:54) Building a Durable Business

    (01:06:19) Long-Term Success

    (01:12:03) Building a Personal Monopoly 

    (01:13:56) Monetisation Strategies

    (01:16:20) Cash Flow

    (01:29:07) Building Productivity Software 

    (01:37:21) Learning from Mistakes



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    📄SHOW NOTES & TRANSCRIPT


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    🎙 ABOUT THE PODCAST


    Deep Dive is the podcast that delves into the minds of entrepreneurs, creators and other inspiring people to uncover the philosophies, strategies and tools that help us live happier, healthier and more productive lives. 


    Want to start your own podcast? We use Transistor! https://go.aliabdaal.com/transistor 


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    PS: Some of the links in this description are affiliate links that I get a kickback from 😜

    How to Make $10k/Month as a Writer - Nicolas Cole

    How to Make $10k/Month as a Writer - Nicolas Cole

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    Sponsored by Brilliant - visit https://brilliant.org/DeepDive/ and the first 200 of you will get 20% off Brilliant's annual premium subscription.

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    I’ve built a brand new community for like-minded people called Productivity Lab. We’ll have online classes, workshops, and coaching to help you double your productivity. You can find out more here 👉 https://eu1.hubs.ly/H09Xc-40


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    In today’s episode, I sit down with Nicolas Cole, and we explore the fastest path to making $10,000 per month as a writer, why monetising through a service is often more effective than selling products, and we debunk the myth that you need a large following to start earning money.

    We also cover the pros and cons of traditional publishing versus self-publishing and delve into the intricacies of book deals and distribution.

    Finally, we discuss Feel-Good Productivity, the process of writing a book, overcoming self-doubt, and the benefits of immersive writing sprints.

    Enjoy :)


    (00:00) Introduction 
    (03:48) The Fastest Path to Monetisation
    (08:00) The Value of Your Knowledge
    (19:08) The ROI of Free Work
    (25:26) The Three Services Every Business Owner Needs
    (26:47) Identifying Potential Clients 
    (40:46) The Abundance Mindset 
    (57:35) Doing the Work
    (01:09:26) Traditional Publishing vs. Self-Publishing
    (01:29:19) Overcoming Self-Doubt 
    (01:46:55) Expanding the Feel-Good Productivity Category
    (01:57:41) Immersive Writing Sprints


    🔗 CONNECT WITH NICOLAS
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    🔗 CONNECT WITH ALI

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    📄SHOW NOTES & TRANSCRIPT


    Visit the website for the transcript and highlights from the conversation - https://aliabdaal.com/podcast/


    🎙 ABOUT THE PODCAST


    Deep Dive is the podcast that delves into the minds of entrepreneurs, creators and other inspiring people to uncover the philosophies, strategies and tools that help us live happier, healthier and more productive lives. 


    Want to start your own podcast? We use Transistor! https://go.aliabdaal.com/transistor 


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    👋🏼 GET IN TOUCH 


    You can also Tweet @AliAbdaal with any feedback, ideas or thoughts about the lessons you've learnt from the episodes and we can thank you personally for tuning in 🙏


    PS: Some of the links in this description are affiliate links that I get a kickback from 😜

    How to Land your Dream Job - Chats with my Team ( @KaelynGraceApple )

    How to Land your Dream Job - Chats with my Team ( @KaelynGraceApple )

    Get all 20 lessons I learned in my 20s here ✍️


    If you want to start or grow a channel, check out my Part-Time YouTuber Academy here 👉 https://eu1.hubs.ly/H09MXML0


    I’ve built a brand new community for like-minded people called Productivity Lab. We’ll have online classes, workshops, and coaching to help you double your productivity. You can find out more here 👉 https://eu1.hubs.ly/H09MXLJ0 


    Check Out My New York Times Bestselling Book Feel-Good Productivity! 👉

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    Meet Kaelyn – YouTuber, former pro athlete, and now our community manager at the Productivity Lab.

    In this episode, we chat about the power of networking and how just being out there and doing great work can open up so many doors. Kaelyn shares her journey from the sports world to YouTube and how she networked her way to joining our team. We also explore the perks of teamwork, the quest for work-life balance, and the art of building a cohesive vision for a productivity brand. Enjoy :)


    00:00 Introduction and Networking

    14:02 Being Part of a Team

    28:03 Incorporating Neurodiversity in Productivity Content

    31:14 Exploring Innovative Tools for Productivity


    🔗 CONNECT WITH KAELYN

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    🔗 CONNECT WITH ALI

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    👥 Linkedin


    📄SHOW NOTES & TRANSCRIPT


    Visit the website for the transcript and highlights from the conversation - https://aliabdaal.com/podcast/


    🎙 ABOUT THE PODCAST


    Deep Dive is the podcast that delves into the minds of entrepreneurs, creators and other inspiring people to uncover the philosophies, strategies and tools that help us live happier, healthier and more productive lives. 


    Want to start your own podcast? We use Transistor! https://go.aliabdaal.com/transistor 


    🎧 LISTEN FOR FREE 

    Apple Podcasts 

    Spotify 

    RSS 


    🙏 LEAVE A REVIEW 


    If you enjoyed listening to the podcast, we'd love for you to leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts to help others discover the show :) https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast...


    👋🏼 GET IN TOUCH 


    You can also Tweet @AliAbdaal with any feedback, ideas or thoughts about the lessons you've learnt from the episodes and we can thank you personally for tuning in 🙏


    PS: Some of the links in this description are affiliate links that I get a kickback from 😜