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    Liquid Death’s Mike Cessario: Trust your taste

    enJuly 11, 2024
    What unconventional strategies are discussed in effective branding?
    How did Mike Zisario create Liquid Death water?
    What role does resilience play in personal growth?
    How can setbacks lead to new opportunities?
    What lesson did the speaker learn from vulnerability in leadership?

    Podcast Summary

    • Branding strategiesUnexpected strategies can be effective in branding and scaling a business, as illustrated by the experiences of Mustafa Suleyman, Steve Huffman, and Mike Zisario.

      Effective branding can involve unexpected strategies. At the Masters of Scale Summit, speakers like Mustafa Suleyman and Steve Huffman will share their visionary leadership. Meanwhile, the story of Mike Zisario, who founded Liquid Death water based on a backstage discovery at a Warped Tour concert, illustrates the importance of creativity and adaptability in marketing. Mike's experience of Monster Energy providing "tour water" for bands to maintain their image shows how brands can manipulate perceptions to their advantage. This anecdote from Aparna Saren, CMO of Capital One Business, further emphasizes the risks and rewards of taking bold marketing steps. Both stories demonstrate that scaling a brand often involves making bold moves, even if they seem unconventional or unconventional at first.

    • Diversity in experiences and backgroundsUnique perspectives and innovative ideas can stem from diverse experiences and backgrounds, but it's important to understand clients' business problems and priorities for effective marketing solutions

      Having diverse experiences and backgrounds can lead to unique perspectives and innovative ideas, even when working within corporate structures. Mike's punk rock and entrepreneurial roots influenced his creative approach, but he encountered challenges when trying to implement unconventional ideas in corporate advertising agencies. Despite the resistance, he continued to push boundaries and strive for disruptive, transgressive work. However, he realized that not all clients were receptive to these ideas and that understanding their business problems and priorities was crucial for effective marketing solutions. Ultimately, his experiences taught him the importance of staying true to his creative vision while adapting to different professional environments.

    • Identifying opportunities in overlooked marketsDetermination and innovation can lead to success in overlooked markets, even when faced with challenges such as limited funds and regulatory restrictions. Staying true to one's vision and surrounding oneself with the right team are crucial.

      Determination and innovation can lead to success, even in seemingly stale markets. The speaker, Sean, shares his experience of creating the brand Western Grace in the underperforming brandy category. He identified the problem as a brand issue rather than a taste issue and decided to solve it by making brandy look and feel like a bourbon. Despite challenges such as limited funds and regulatory restrictions, Sean persisted and eventually found success. However, he also learned the importance of choosing the right business partners, as his initial partners' similar thinking led to conflicts. This story highlights the importance of identifying opportunities in overlooked markets, staying true to one's vision, and surrounding oneself with the right team.

    • Setbacks and failuresSetbacks and failures can lead to new opportunities and growth, it's important to stay resilient and keep pushing forward despite skepticism or resistance.

      Setbacks and failures are inevitable in life and career, but they can also serve as opportunities for growth and new beginnings. The speaker's experience of being pushed out of a company and facing unemployment led him to a turning point where he found a new opportunity and created some of the best work of his career. It's important to not give up during tough times, but instead, keep an open mind and look for new opportunities to focus on. The speaker's story also highlights the importance of resilience and the ability to adapt to new situations. Even when faced with skepticism or resistance, it's essential to stay true to your ideas and beliefs, and keep pushing forward. Ultimately, every experience, good or bad, contributes to personal and professional growth.

    • Seeking support in uncertaintyIn the face of fear and uncertainty, reaching out to trusted peers for support and collaboration can lead to unexpected success. Focusing on the essence of the product and seeking support can turn fear into opportunity.

      In the face of fear and uncertainty, reaching out to trusted peers for support and collaboration can lead to unexpected success. The speaker, a business leader, shared her experience of waking up in a cold sweat, terrified that her new product might fail. Instead of giving in to panic, she wrote an emotional email to her colleagues, inviting them to be thought partners and help mitigate risk. The vulnerability paid off, as the team came up with innovative solutions and the product ended up being a huge success. Similarly, the founder of a water company, Reed Hastings, also faced uncertainty when entering the market with a simple, healthy product in a sea of plastic bottled competitors. Instead of getting bogged down in branding and logistics, he first ensured the product's quality and sourcing. He then tapped into the sentiment of health and positivity in the rebellious punk rock and metal scene to create a unique brand identity. By focusing on the product's essence and seeking support from his team, both leaders turned fear into opportunity and achieved remarkable success.

    • Creating an unconventional beverage brandPerseverance and adaptability are crucial when facing challenges like sourcing sustainable packaging and finding the right production facilities for an unconventional beverage brand. Creativity in naming and product design can generate buzz and social media engagement.

      Creating an unconventional beverage brand involves overcoming various challenges, from sourcing sustainable packaging to finding the right production facilities. The speaker in this discussion shares his experience of launching a canned spring water brand, Liquid Death, and the hurdles he faced in the process. He wanted to use cans for sustainability and brand reasons, but discovered there were no co-packers in North America who could put spring water in cans. He eventually found a co-packer in Austria who had the necessary equipment and owned mineral water springs. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of a catchy name and intriguing product design to generate buzz and social media engagement. He used this approach to come up with the name "Liquid Death" and created a Facebook page and funny video long before having a real product. This helped him build a social media following and create anticipation for his brand. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of perseverance, creativity, and adaptability in launching a successful beverage brand.

    • Social media as focus groupUsing social media as a focus group can help demonstrate demand and gain traction for a business idea, even when traditional funding sources are unavailable.

      Building a successful business involves taking risks and using creativity to gain traction. Mike Bracko, the founder of Liquid Death, used social media as a focus group to prove the concept of his edgy water brand. He couldn't secure funding based on the idea alone, so he first needed to demonstrate demand. With millions of views and followers, Liquid Death caught the attention of retailers and distributors. The marketing approach was entertainment-first, using humor to stand out in a crowded market. This strategy paid off, leading to extraordinary scale within a few years. The lesson here is that sometimes, taking risks and thinking outside the box can lead to unexpected success.

    • Brand differentiation and resonanceHaving a unique mission and story can help a brand stand out in retail distribution and appeal to both retailers and consumers. Focusing on sustainability and offering flavored sparkling water with a hint of sugar helped Liquid Death differentiate from competitors and expand into new product lines.

      For a brand like Liquid Death to gain retail distribution and scale its business, it's essential to have a unique mission and story that resonates with retailers and consumers. Liquid Death's focus on sustainability and fun, flavored sparkling water with a hint of sugar helped differentiate them from competitors and appeal to both retailers and consumers. Starting with Whole Foods nationally gave them a strong foundation, and expanding into other healthy categories like flavored sparkling water and iced tea helped them grow their product lines. The brand's sarcastic name and marketing strategy also added to its appeal. The DIY mentality from the founder's punk rock teenage years also influenced their entrepreneurial approach and managing the personalities within the band.

    • Persistence and teamworkStaying together as a team for a decade and finding ways to make everyone feel valued are crucial for building a successful business. Testing and experimenting with low-cost methods can help gain traction and prove product value.

      Building a successful business, whether it's a band or a product, requires persistence and the ability to work well with others. Mike's experience with Liquid Death illustrates this, as he emphasized the importance of staying together as a team for a decade and finding ways to make everyone feel valued. For entrepreneurs with a promising product but struggling to find market fit, Mike suggests testing and experimenting with low-cost methods, such as social media, to gain traction and prove the product's value. Mike also highlighted the importance of trusting one's own taste and learning from failures, as he did with Liquid Death's unconventional product and marketing approach. Overall, Mike's journey showcases the importance of passion, network, learning, and resilience in building a successful business.

    • Backup plans, pivotsHaving multiple backup plans not only increases options but also opens new opportunities. Humility and empathy are crucial during pivot experiences.

      Having multiple backup plans not only expands your options but also opens up new opportunities. This lesson was learned by a partner who went through a pivot experience. She emphasized the importance of humility and empathy during the pivot process, which helped her go through it with others in a more effective way. Capital One Business supports entrepreneurs and leaders in their journey to scale their impact. For more resources, visit capitalone.com/businesshub. The Masters of Scale podcast, produced by Capital One, features interviews with legendary business leaders offering advice. Send in your business questions to hello@mastersofscale.com or call 919-Masters. In essence, being open to change and having a humble and empathetic approach can lead to unexpected opportunities.

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