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    Nicholas Carr on deep reading and digital thinking

    enJune 29, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • The medium shapes us more than the contentNew media reshape how we perceive and communicate, influencing our thoughts and actions in ways we may not realize.

      The mediums we use to consume and communicate information shape us in profound ways, often more so than the content itself. This idea was first proposed by Marshall McLuhan, and it's a concept that author Nicholas Carr explores in his book "The Shallows." According to McLuhan, when a new medium arrives, such as the printing press or television, people focus on the content that flows through it. But in the long run, the technology itself reshapes how we perceive and communicate, influencing our thoughts and actions in ways we may not even realize. For example, the printing press made it possible for people to read at their own pace and in their own space, leading to a more individualistic and introspective society. Similarly, television's visual and auditory nature can lead to a more passive and distracted way of consuming information. Today, podcasts, like this one, offer a more intimate and immersive listening experience, potentially shaping us in positive ways. Ultimately, the mediums we use are not neutral tools, but active agents in shaping our brains and our world.

    • The Printing Press and Individualistic ThinkingThe printing press led to a more individualistic and fragmented way of thinking, strengthening visual cortex for reading while weakening oral communication and tactile senses.

      According to Marshall McLuhan, the invention of the printing press by Gutenberg in the 15th century led to a more individualistic and fragmented way of thinking due to the dominance of the printed page. McLuhan argued that reading was a solitary activity, which removed people from the social world and nature. He also believed that the visual sense became dominant over other senses, leading to further alienation. New technologies, like the internet, don't just change our habits but also change our brains through neuroplasticity. For example, in the pre-Internet era, someone living in a written culture would have strengthened their visual cortex for deciphering text, while facilities for oral communication and tactile senses may have weakened. This shift in neural circuitry reflects the use-it-or-lose-it phenomenon, where abilities not encouraged by the technology begin to atrophy.

    • The Development of Reading Skills: A Double-Edged SwordReading skills offer efficiency and silent comprehension, but come at the cost of visual acuity and mental focus.

      The development of reading skills comes with both advantages and disadvantages. At first, learning to read is a slow and laborious process, but as we practice, our brains become more efficient and we develop the ability to read silently and quickly. However, this comes at the cost of losing some of our visual acuity in interpreting the natural world. This shift in brain function is evident in historical transitions between oral and written cultures, such as Saint Augustine's description of the Bishop of Milan reading silently. Additionally, the invention of spaces between words in written language allowed for faster and silent reading, but also required the development of mental discipline to concentrate for long periods of time. In today's digital age, this mental discipline is increasingly important as we struggle to focus on long texts and instead are drawn to quick, bite-sized pieces of information. This shift in focus may be due to the recruitment of our reading skills to new processes, such as scanning and skimming digital texts. Overall, the development of reading skills has had a profound impact on our brains and our culture, but it also highlights the importance of maintaining a balance between different modes of communication and understanding.

    • The Loss of Deep Reading in the Digital AgeThe constant use of digital devices hinders deep reading, a state of intense focus on a text that enhances deep thinking abilities. This loss may lead to shallower thinking and decreased ability to process complex ideas.

      The constant bombardment of information from digital devices is making it increasingly difficult for people to focus on deep reading, which is a powerful form of thinking. According to Nicholas Carr, author of "The Shallows," our natural inclination to gather new information and the stimulating nature of digital media make it harder to concentrate on long texts and engage in deep reading. This skill, which was once crucial for developing deep thinking abilities, is being lost as we adapt to the quick, fragmented nature of digital media. Deep reading is a state of intense focus on the text where one becomes fully immersed and makes connections between ideas. It's a state that doesn't occur when reading for short periods or while flicking through information online. Carr argues that this loss of deep reading ability is a significant concern as it may lead to shallower thinking and a decreased ability to process complex ideas.

    • Cultivating Deep ReadingTo deep read, physically isolate yourself from distractions and focus fully on the text, expanding your understanding and knowledge beyond the bounds of the text.

      Deep reading is an active mental process that requires concentration and attention, allowing us to generate new ideas and make unexpected connections. It's about fully engaging with the text and shutting out distractions, making it a pleasurable and productive experience. However, in today's world, deep reading is becoming less common due to the constant pull of electronic media and digital distractions. To cultivate deep reading, it's essential to physically isolate yourself from these distractions and persevere through the slower pace of reading. Research shows that even when our phones are nearby, they can pull away significant amounts of our attentional capacity, making it harder to focus. By taking the time and effort to create a "clearing in your mind," you can expand your understanding and knowledge beyond the bounds of the text. Deep reading is an active, pleasurable, and valuable mental activity that we should make time for in our daily lives.

    • The value of deep readingDeep reading is about immersing oneself in a text, adapting its ideas to one's perspective, and gaining a deeper understanding of concepts, even if specific information is later forgotten.

      Reading is not just about gaining information, but rather the deep interaction between the reader and the book. The value of reading comes from the time spent immersed in the text, allowing the reader to adapt the world of the book to their own perspective. This process of deep reading is crucial for understanding and clarifying ideas, even if the specific information from the book is later forgotten. However, in today's society, there is a growing emphasis on reading as a practical activity for deriving information efficiently. This mindset can lead to a loss of appreciation for reading as a form of contemplation and engagement with new ideas. Additionally, there is a tension in our view of the mind, with some seeing it as a computer that needs to input information as quickly as possible, rather than a complex and nuanced entity that benefits from deep engagement with texts.

    • The Internet's Distraction vs. Deep UnderstandingThe Internet's speed and convenience can hinder deep understanding and knowledge development, leading to a shallower mind.

      The Internet, while providing access to vast amounts of information, can distract us from developing a deep understanding and rich base of knowledge. The Internet's power lies in its ability to deliver information quickly, but this comes at the cost of our ability to engage in deep reading and attentive thought. This was evident a decade ago when computers were our main way of being online, and social media was still on the periphery. However, as technology has advanced, and smartphones and social media have taken over, the distractions have only increased. The consequence is that we may be able to gather lots of information, but we may not be able to assemble it well into knowledge or put it into a broader context. The fundamental argument is that we are making a trade-off between getting information quickly and developing a rich base of knowledge. This trade-off can lead to a shallowing of our minds, making it essential to find ways to balance our use of technology with opportunities for deep reading and contemplation.

    • The Impact of Technology on Focus and MemoryTechnology intensifies distractions and shallow focus, while our understanding of memory is incorrect. Working memory's small capacity means we can only focus on a few things at a time, and technology's proliferation has deep social effects.

      The constant use of technology, particularly smartphones and social media, has magnified the distractions and shallow focus discussed in the book a decade ago. Our understanding of memory is also incorrect; it's not a single process but involves moving information from short-term (working) memory to long-term memory. The small capacity of working memory means we can only focus on a few things at a time, pushing older information out. The proliferation of technology and the social media-driven information age have intensified these issues, with deep social effects. The ability to effectively transfer information from working memory to long-term memory is crucial for our knowledge and intelligence.

    • The internet interrupts memory consolidationThe internet's convenience comes at a cost: it can hinder memory consolidation, leading to shallower understanding and less creative problem-solving.

      The way we consume information online, with constant distractions and quick transitions between pieces of data, can hinder the process of memory consolidation. During memory consolidation, we create rich connections and associations between new information and our existing knowledge, which is essential for deep thinking and creative problem-solving. However, the internet and digital media often interrupt this process by overwhelming our working memory with an excessive amount of information. As a result, we may not be able to attend to information long enough to consolidate it effectively. For instance, links, which are often seen as an advantage of online text, can actually lead to more superficial reading, less comprehension, and less retention. Although links offer the potential to explore related topics and gain a deeper understanding of a subject, they can also serve as distractions that pull our attention away from the primary text. In essence, the convenience of the internet and digital media comes at a cost: we may lose the ability to focus and attend to information long enough to consolidate it, leading to a shallower understanding of the world around us. Instead, it's crucial to find ways to limit distractions and give ourselves the time and focus necessary for memory consolidation. This will not only help us deepen our knowledge but also improve our ability to think creatively and make connections between seemingly disparate ideas.

    • The convenience of digital information can hinder deep reading and thinkingDigital information's ease of access may lead to a narrow focus and homogenization of ideas, impacting our ability to engage in deep and meaningful thought.

      Links and easy access to information through search engines can serve as distractions that hinder deep reading and thinking. A study conducted by a professor at the University of Chicago, published in Science Magazine, found that scholars cited fewer articles after academic journals were digitized, as they began to rely more on search engines to find popular and widely cited articles. This can lead to a narrow focus and a homogenization of information. While the convenience and efficiency of digital information are undeniable, it's important to consider the potential downsides and the impact on our ability to engage in deep and broad exploration of ideas. This is not to say that we were smarter or had better ideas in the past, but rather that the way we access and consume information today may have unintended consequences. It's crucial to strike a balance between the benefits and drawbacks of digital information and to be mindful of the potential impact on our ability to engage in deep and meaningful thought.

    • Technology's Impact on Intelligence and Deep ThinkingDespite the abundance of information from technology, there's no consistent increase in standardized test scores or other measures of intelligence. Some research suggests constant tech distractions may hinder deep thinking and problem-solving.

      While the internet era has provided us with an abundance of information at our fingertips, it has not led to a consistent increase in standardized test scores or other measures of intelligence. Some studies suggest that our ability to engage in deep, contemplative thinking and problem-solving may be negatively affected by constant distractions from technology. However, it's important to note that there are also benefits to living and working in densely populated areas, where innovation and new ideas are more likely to emerge. The complex relationship between technology use, cognitive abilities, and societal progress is an ongoing area of research and debate.

    • The loss of contemplative thinking in the digital ageThe digital media environment, particularly social media, can lead to a loss of intellectual depth and diversity, promoting fast and convenient information exchange over original ideas and deep thinking.

      While being in an information-rich environment can be beneficial, the danger lies in the loss of contemplative and attentive ways of thinking due to distraction and information overload. The digital media environment, particularly social media, has led to a homogenization of thinking, making it more about fast and convenient information exchange. This loss of intellectual depth and diversity is not easily measurable, but it's important for personal growth and understanding complex ideas. The previous era of the internet, before social media, allowed for more individualistic thinking and less social signaling on how to receive information. However, the move towards social media has increased the pressure to conform to certain ways of thinking, which can limit the potential for original ideas. This shift can be traced back to Marshall McLuhan's idea of electronic media turning the world into a global village, contrasting the individualistic, contemplative mind with the dominant social signaling of earlier times.

    • The Impact of Social Media on Thought ProcessesSocial media influences how we make sense of information, with implications for both positive and negative outcomes. Some argue it's a transition cost, while others worry about control over thoughts.

      The rise of social media has led to a significant shift in how we make sense of information, with an increased emphasis on social signaling and the interpretation of social meaning. This change has both positive and negative implications, and while some argue that this is simply a transition cost for older generations, others express concerns about the technology's ability to control our thoughts. Despite the potential benefits of social media, there is a growing sense that it is determining what we think about, rather than us controlling our own thoughts. This is a concern for people of all ages, as human beings strive to maintain control over their thoughts and attention. However, given our adaptability as a species, it remains to be seen how we will continue to navigate this complex relationship with technology.

    • Exploring the benefits and challenges of the digital ageThe digital age offers opportunities for interconnectedness and amplification of marginalized voices, but also challenges traditional notions of individual contemplation and knowledge. Navigate this complex terrain with care and consideration.

      As we adapt to the new digital media environment, it's important to consider both the gains and the losses. While technology brings us closer together and amplifies voices that were once marginalized, it also challenges traditional notions of individual contemplation and knowledge. McLuhan's concept of the "Global Village" highlights the potential benefits of this interconnectedness, allowing for greater awareness of social and political issues beyond our immediate spheres. However, it's crucial to remain thoughtful and critical of this new landscape, recognizing that adaptation doesn't necessarily equate to improvement. The pandemic and social justice movements have underscored the power of social media to bring people together and force confrontation with issues outside our comfort zones. Overall, the digital age offers both opportunities and challenges, and it's essential to navigate this complex terrain with care and consideration.

    • Navigating the Benefits and Challenges of the Digital Age by Understanding Its Impact on Society and Human ConditionThe digital age offers a sense of community and facilitates behavior change, but also leads to polarization, the spread of misinformation, and an overreliance on emotion. Balancing these aspects is a complex challenge.

      The current digital age, characterized by the shared stream of consciousness through social media and other digital platforms, brings both significant benefits and challenges. On the positive side, it fosters a sense of community and makes it easier for people to change behavior in response to crises like the pandemic. However, it also leads to polarization, the spread of conspiracy theories, and an overreliance on emotion rather than reason. The struggle to harness the benefits while mitigating the negative aspects is a complex challenge that we'll likely face for an extended period. Three books that provide insights into this issue are "The Control Revolution" by James Beniger, "The 4 Dimensional Human" by Lawrence Scott, and "A Visit from the Goon Squad" by Jennifer Egan. These works explore the impact of technology on society and the human condition in the age of media saturation.

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