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    Nir Eyal (Part 1) - Become Indistractable in Four Science-Backed Steps

    en-usApril 17, 2021

    Podcast Summary

    • From creating addictive products to helping individuals resist distractionsNir Eyal's work explores the intersection of psychology, technology, and business, helping companies create addictive products and individuals resist distractions. His insights are particularly relevant in today's world.

      Nir Eyal, a renowned author, consultant, and teacher, has dedicated his work to understanding the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. He is best known for his books "Hooked" and "Indestructible." "Hooked" explores how to create habit-forming products, while "Indestructible" provides guidance on how individuals can control their attention and resist distractions. Nir's work has received critical acclaim, with "Indestructible" winning numerous awards and being featured in prestigious publications. His insights are particularly relevant in today's world, as we navigate the constant distractions presented by technology. In this conversation, Nir shares the story of how he went from helping companies create addictive products to helping individuals become less distracted by them. His journey demonstrates the power of understanding human behavior and using it to create positive change.

    • Empowering individuals to overcome distractionsIndividuals have the power to use technology effectively and overcome distractions, rather than being controlled by them, by mastering focus and prioritizing what truly matters.

      The book "Indistractable" by Nir Eyal is about empowering individuals to overcome distractions, including those caused by technology, rather than being controlled by them. Eyal believes that technology, while a double-edged sword, is not inherently evil or addictive, but rather that individuals have the power to use it effectively. He argues against the notion that technology companies' algorithms are hijacking our minds, instead encouraging individuals to take control of their time and attention. Distractions come in many forms, not just technology, and mastering the ability to focus on what truly matters is essential for living a fulfilling life. Plato discussed distractions over 2,000 years ago, making this a timeless issue.

    • Understanding why we don't do what we know we shouldFocus on self-awareness to identify distractions and improve discipline, rather than blaming external factors for lack of progress.

      Despite having access to an abundance of information and resources, many of us struggle to follow through on what we know we should do. This phenomenon, which Plato referred to as the human tendency to act against our better judgment, is exacerbated by the ease of distraction in today's world. Instead of blaming external factors, we need to focus on understanding why we don't do what we say we will and learn how to overcome distractions. The challenge isn't figuring out what to do, but rather, it's implementing the knowledge we already have. By recognizing this and taking steps to improve our focus and discipline, we can make meaningful progress in all areas of our lives.

    • Managing Distractions for Increased ProductivityIdentify internal and external triggers, make time, and make a pact to stay focused on goals and manage distractions effectively.

      Both internal and external factors play a role in productivity and achieving goals. It's essential to recognize that quitting is the surest way to fail, and distractions, while real, should not be used as an excuse. The concept of distraction is often misunderstood, and its opposite is not focus, but traction. External triggers, such as phone calls or interruptions, can be significant sources of distraction. However, it's crucial not to play the victim and instead take responsibility for managing these external factors. The speaker's methodology for increasing productivity involves four strategies: identifying internal and external triggers, making the time, and making the pact. By implementing these strategies, individuals can effectively manage distractions and stay focused on their goals.

    • Intentional actions that pull us towards or away from goalsBe mindful of actions, prioritize tasks that align with values and goals for traction, avoid distractions that hinder progress

      We all face the constant battle between traction and distraction in our daily lives. Both words originate from the same Latin root, "Trahare," which means "to pull." Traction refers to any intentional action that pulls us toward our goals and values, while distraction is an action that pulls us away. Forethought plays a crucial role in determining which one we choose. For instance, when we sit down to work on an important task but get sidetracked by checking emails or social media, we are engaging in distraction. These seemingly productive activities can actually hinder our progress and prevent us from becoming the person we aspire to be. On the other hand, traction is the action we take when we focus on the important tasks that move us closer to our goals. It's essential to recognize that anything can be a distraction or a source of traction depending on our intentions and priorities. Technology, such as social media, can be a double-edged sword. It can provide traction when used intentionally and productively, but it can also lead to distraction when we allow ourselves to get sidetracked by notifications and endless scrolling. Ultimately, the key is to be mindful of our actions and use forethought to prioritize the tasks that align with our values and goals. By doing so, we can ensure that we are making progress toward the person we want to become, rather than getting bogged down by distractions that pull us in the wrong direction.

    • Mastering Internal and External DistractionsTo become indistractable, identify and manage internal triggers through routine, habits, and mindfulness, make time for focused work, minimize external interruptions, and use productivity tools.

      While external distractions, such as notifications and interruptions, can be significant contributors to distraction, the primary cause is often internal triggers, like uncomfortable emotional states. To become indistractable, it's essential to master both internal triggers and external distractions. The first step is to identify and manage internal triggers by creating a routine, building good habits, and practicing mindfulness. The second step is to make time for traction by scheduling focused work sessions and eliminating unnecessary tasks. The third step is to hack back external triggers by minimizing interruptions and creating a productive environment. Lastly, as a last line of defense, use productivity tools and techniques to prevent distractions. Remember, it takes effort and practice to implement these strategies effectively. The research-backed techniques outlined in the book can help anyone become more focused and productive.

    • Understanding the root cause of distraction and procrastinationDistraction and procrastination are not character flaws, but rather a result of uncomfortable emotions. Learn to manage these emotions through pain management techniques for improved focus and productivity.

      Distraction and procrastination are not character flaws, but rather a result of our inability to effectively manage uncomfortable emotions. The root cause of these issues lies within us, and not in external factors like technology or cluttered desks. The key to overcoming distraction and procrastination is learning how to deal with these uncomfortable emotions in a healthy way. This involves practicing pain management through various techniques, such as acknowledging and accepting the emotions instead of trying to escape from them. By understanding this and implementing these skills, we can regain control over our time and focus on what truly matters.

    • Using Technology Mindfully During Challenging TimesDuring a pandemic, focus on why and when we use technology instead of blaming it for distractions. Techniques like acknowledging psychological discomfort and delaying actions can help manage distractions.

      Technology, including social media, can be a valuable tool during challenging times like a pandemic, but it's essential to use it mindfully. Instead of blaming technology for distractions or escapes, we should focus on why and when we use it. If social media use is interrupting our work or causing emotional escape, acknowledging the psychological discomfort and "surfing the urge" can help. Additionally, techniques like the 10-minute rule, which encourages delaying the action instead of saying "no," can be effective in managing distractions. Remember, technology is a tool, and it's up to us to use it in a way that aligns with our values and schedule.

    • Use 'not yet' instead of 'no'Instead of fighting distractions with 'no', try using 'not yet' and setting a timer for 10 minutes to give in later.

      Telling yourself "no" when trying to resist a distraction or unwanted behavior can actually make it more pleasurable and harder to resist. Instead, it's more effective to tell yourself "not yet" and use the "10 minute rule." This means setting a timer for 10 minutes and allowing yourself to give in to the distraction after that time. By acknowledging and understanding the underlying reasons for the urge, you can often find that the sensation passes by the time the timer goes off. Over time, this technique can help build your capacity to delay gratification and resist distractions more effectively.

    • Effective time management: Writing sessions & prioritizing tractionSet aside dedicated writing time, prioritize tasks, and plan out your schedule to maximize productivity and minimize stress.

      Effective time management involves both setting aside dedicated writing time and prioritizing traction by planning out what you'll do and when. The "1 hour rule" for writing encourages productivity by forcing focus during designated sessions, while avoiding distractions is secondary. Meanwhile, achieving traction requires keeping a timebox calendar to schedule tasks and prioritize productivity, as opposed to relying on a to-do list which can lead to feelings of inadequacy and unrealistic expectations. By planning out your time, you'll be more likely to make the most of each day and avoid the stress of an endless to-do list.

    • Focus on working diligently for set periods, not just completing tasksPrioritize uninterrupted work sessions to boost productivity and self-integrity, rather than fixating on finishing every task on your list.

      Focusing too much on completing every task on a to-do list can negatively impact your work-life balance and self-image. Instead, it's more productive and fulfilling to dedicate uninterrupted time to working on tasks and measuring progress by the length of time spent without distraction. This approach, known as timeboxing, has been shown to lead to increased productivity and a greater sense of integrity. So, prioritize working on tasks for set periods without interruption, rather than fixating on finishing every task on your list. This will help you be more present with your loved ones and improve your self-perception. Remember, it's not about completing tasks, but about working diligently and focusing on the process.

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    • Nir's transition from obese to fit, and how he used his techniques to get there.
    • Consistency over intensity is the best way to keep a habit.

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    Becoming Indistractable with Nir Eyal

    Becoming Indistractable with Nir Eyal

    Getting distracted isn’t just about how it affects your productivity. It’s about how it affects your level of suffering, as it pulls focus away from the people and things that matter most deeply to you. Especially in our current digital age, prioritization is incredibly tricky, and yet more important than ever.

    In this episode, host Prerna Manchanda speaks speak with world-renowned author Nir Eyal about his book Indistractible, and he shares how to get the best from technology without it getting the best of us.

    Prerna and Nir discuss how to start identifying the triggers that lead to distraction, as well as practical, realistic tools to help you make for time for traction—actions that pull you towards your intentions (and away from suffering).

    They critically review what’s wrong with the current tech narrative, which currently leaves users (all of us) feeling helpless and Nir offers empowering advice about how to “hack back” tech. In this episode, Nir illustrates why becoming Indistractable is the skill of the century and he generously shares the framework for how we can all get there.

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    How to Be Indistractable in a Sea of Distraction - Conversation with New York Times Bestselling Author Nir Eyal

    How to Be Indistractable in a Sea of Distraction - Conversation with New York Times Bestselling Author Nir Eyal

    Nir Eyal is the author of two bestselling books, “Hooked: How to build Habit-forming Products” and “Indistractable: How to Control Your attention and Choose your life”. Nir and I met in 2014 and I was a guest contributor to his blog www.nirandfar.com, writing about addictive online auctions: [Auction Addiction: This Online Industry’s Dirty Secrets](https://www.nirandfar.com/online-auctions/). 

    In our conversation with Nir, we explore:

    * Why humans did not evolve to be happy all the time
    * What is more important than happiness in making your life productive and fulfilling, and how to cultivate that quality
    * The dangers of “overtraining” when embarking on new goals and what to do instead to not fall off the bandwagon
    * Why external motivators don’t work in sticking to your goals as well as evolving your identity and how to do that

    Check out these resources mentioned by Nir:

    “Indistractable” book: http://geni.us/Indistractable
    “Indistractable” bonus content is here: http://nirandfar.com/indistractable
    “Indistractable” summary article: https://www.nirandfar.com/skill-of-the-future/
    Distraction guide here: https://www.nirandfar.com/distractions/
    Habits vs routines article here: https://www.nirandfar.com/habits/
    Why schedules are better than to-do lists: https://www.nirandfar.com/todo-vs-schedule-builder/
    Time boxing article: https://www.nirandfar.com/timeboxing
    Values article: https://www.nirandfar.com/common-values/
    Habit tracker - https://www.nirandfar.com/habit-tracker/

    Also, the schedule maker tool Nir mentioned is here: https://nirandfar.com/schedule-maker/

    Become Indistractable with Nir Eyal

    Become Indistractable with Nir Eyal

    Nir Eyal (@nireyal) writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. The M.I.T. Technology Review dubbed Nir, “The Prophet of Habit-Forming Technology.”

    Nir founded two tech companies since 2003 and has taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford. He is the author of the bestselling book, Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products and his timely new book Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life, is a #1 New Release on Amazon.

    In addition to blogging at NirAndFar.com, Nir’s writing has been featured in The Harvard Business Review, TechCrunch, and Psychology Today.

    Nir is also an active investor in habit-forming technologies. Some of his past investments include Eventbrite (NYSE:EB), Refresh.io (acquired by LinkedIn), Worklife (acquired by Cisco), Product Hunt, Marco Polo, Presence Learning, Kahoot!, FocusMate, and Anchor.fm (acquired by Spotify).

    Nir attended The Stanford Graduate School of Business and Emory University.

    Visit Nir at https://www.nirandfar.com/ and get the Indistractable resources at https://www.nirandfar.com/indistractable-resources/.

    Ep 120: The #1 Reason Teens Turn to Tech...

    Ep 120: The #1 Reason Teens Turn to Tech...

    Nir Eyal, author of Indistractable and Hooked and former lecturer at Stanford University, offers new insight into why teens get so “addicted” to technology. Nir suggests the problem might not be as insurmountable as we thought and has a method for how to become indistractable.

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    Full show notes

    It’s so frustrating when kids seem infinitely more invested in their Fortnite match than the stack of homework sitting on their desk, or intent on binging Emily in Paris when they should be practicing their violin! In our modern world, where technology surrounds us, it seems that we’re all prone to getting caught up in all the distractions offered by our devices. We know our kids are smart and capable–if only they grew up in a world with no social media or streaming sites...right?

    Although it’s tempting, blaming our kids’ tendency towards distractions on technology isn’t going to get us anywhere. Even when we take their phones away and limit their access to facebook and Instagram, it seems that they still get distracted, still procrastinate, still don’t put in their full effort! There’s got to be a better way.

    Today we’re talking to the brilliant Nir Eyal, author of Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life and Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products. Along with teaching business at Stanford University and prospering as an entrepreneur, Nir has written widely on how people become hooked by technology, highlighting what exactly it is keeps us coming back for more. In our interview, he talks specifically about how parents can help kids dodge the technological distractions they so often fall prey to.

    In Nir’s eyes, the ability of young folks to free themselves from distraction is the key to a successful future. So how can we help kids get there? The answer is a lot more complicated than just simply limiting their technology use. It involves digging deeper into what’s triggering the technology use in the first place...

    Understanding Internal Triggers

    When we think of the word “distraction”, we tend to think of noises or sights around us that make it hard to concentrate. While these are certainly part of our inability to focus, Nir shines light on what he believes are the most potent forces of distraction: our anxiety, boredom, dread, and confusion. Nir defines these as “internal triggers”, differentiating them from”external triggers" like the beeping of a car alarm or TV playing the news in the background.

    These internal triggers are too often left out of the conversation when discussing distraction! As parents, it can be tempting to blame our kids’ concentration issues on circumstance or believe that we’re simply helpless when it comes to rebuking the distractions of tech. In reality, the solution to the problem lies in dealing with whatever it is kids are struggling with internally.

    This use of procrastination to deal with bigger internal problems is similar to drowning out emotional issues with drugs or alcohol, Nir says. It’s not alcohol that drives alcoholism, it’s the emotional conflict or inner turmoil of the alcoholic that causes their unhealthy behavior. The same goes for technology, he explains. We overuse and find distraction when we’re trying to avoid dealing with feelings we’d rather push away.

    So if your kid is a procrastinator, don’t worry–it’s not a character flaw, Nir emphasizes. Teens just need to learn to process whatever negative emotion they might be feeling. If they can get to the bottom of what’s keeping them productivity, they can begin to tackle the task at hand. In the episode, Nir talks more about how you can help teens deal with these deeper issues, instead of just placing restrictions on their tech use and hoping things will get better.

    Why Teens Go Online When They’re Unhappy Offline

    You might be wondering, what unpleasant feelings might be acting as internal triggers for my kid? Nir breaks down three main things kids need to be happy, and explains how they often look to the online landscape when they can’t get these things in real life.

    The first thing kids need is to feel competent. Unfortunately, this feeling is hard for kids to achieve in our modern day school system, Nir says. Nowadays, kids are always being subjected to test after test, a process which tends to make them feel pretty incompetent. But when they’re on Minecraft building fantastical structures, winning a game of Super Smash Brothers or watching their Instagram post rake in the likes, they suddenly feel that competence they desire! If we want kids to stop seeking approval online, we need to make sure they’re getting it in real life, Nir says.

    Teenagers also need autonomy, Nir explains, another thing they’re often not given nowadays. Teens are always being told where to go, how to dress, what to think, who they can and can’t talk to...the list goes on. When they go online, however, they’re able to do whatever they wish, basically unsupervised. They’re free to create, vent and explore! If teens felt as though they were able to have such freedom offline, they likely wouldn’t be so distracted by the online world.

    Finally, Nir explains how teens need relatedness–they need to understand others and feel understood. Unfortunately, even before the pandemic, kids in today’s world were more isolated than ever before. Nir notes that kids were once free to run around and play together, but now their schedules are full with math classes and flute lessons instead. Kids need to be around each other, however, leading them to seek the companionship they need online.

    In the episode, Nir and I discuss how you can mitigate these problems to create a child who has a healthy relationship with the internet. Once you teach kids to handle their emotions and get a grip on their internal triggers, they’ll be one step closer to defeating distraction. We’re not done. however. Nir’s got a few extra tips on what to do once you’ve got those internal triggers in the bag.

    Other Tips To Tackle Distractions

    A big part of avoiding distraction is time management. Nir emphasizes the idea of making time for “traction”...the opposite of “distraction!” This means structuring your time around achieving your goals and becoming the person you hope to be. A lot of time, we fall victim to distraction because we don’t harness and direct our energy in productive ways.

    If we schedule our time, we can set aside moments for focus, as well as moments for fun. Nir emphasizes the importance of dedicating a separate block of time to play games or watch Netflix. If there’s forethought involved, kids can keep themselves from playing for hours. In addition, by being aware of when and how much they’ll play, teens keep themselves from getting distracted by thoughts of playing, Nir explains.

    Nir talks about how another really important factor in focus is sleep! Technology often plays a part in keeping kids from getting all the rest they need at night. This can cause some serious physiological and mental health issues! Nir says it’s probably not a good idea for teens to have cellphones with them as they’re falling asleep, or to have TVs in their...