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    Now All Biden Has to Do Is Build It

    enSeptember 16, 2022
    What key bills have advanced the Biden presidency's agenda?
    How does Biden want to improve the economy's productive capacity?
    What challenges could hinder the implementation of new legislation?
    Why is staffing important for executing Biden's plans?
    What lessons can be learned from the defense industry?

    Podcast Summary

    • Biden's Economic Agenda: Building the Productive Capacity of the EconomyBiden's agenda gained momentum with the passage of key bills, focusing on infrastructure projects to boost the economy's productive capacity. Success relies on effective implementation, shaping Biden's potential legacy.

      The Biden presidency's agenda, which had stalled earlier in the year, underwent a significant turnaround with the passage of several key bills. These bills, including the CHIPS Act, Inflation Reduction Act, and student debt cancellation, reflect Biden's focus on building the productive capacity of the economy through physical infrastructure projects. This approach is about more than just legislation; it requires actual construction of roads, bridges, wind farms, solar panels, and other projects. While these bills present an opportunity to solve problems, their implementation faces challenges, and their success is far from guaranteed. Biden's legacy, if it becomes one, will be shaped by the outcome of these efforts to build a high-care, low-carbon economy.

    • Biden administration's focus on high care, low carbon economyThe Biden administration's legislative legacy may include investments in clean energy, semiconductor manufacturing, and infrastructure, attracting private investment in new sectors.

      The Biden administration's focus on a high care, low carbon economy has resulted in more investment in low carbon initiatives than in care infrastructure, such as expanding pre-K and making child care more affordable. However, the administration has shown a willingness to use unconventional tools like antitrust laws to address corporate excesses. Despite the lack of progress on the care agenda, the administration's legislative legacy may include the Inflation Reduction Act, the Chips and Science Act, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, and the American Rescue Plan. These bills, when viewed together, represent a broader effort to use public funds to build new sectors of the economy, such as clean energy and semiconductor manufacturing, while also attracting private investment.

    • Revitalizing US semiconductor industry with $52B investmentThe CHIPS Act invests $52B in domestic semiconductor manufacturing and research hubs to revitalize US industry, boost national security, and spur economic growth.

      The CHIPS Act is a significant part of the Biden administration's legislative agenda, focusing on investing in both basic science research and domestic semiconductor manufacturing. The Act aims to revitalize the US semiconductor industry, which has largely moved overseas, by providing $52 billion for domestic manufacturing and research hubs. This investment is crucial for national security and economic reasons, as semiconductors are essential components in various technologies, from computers and cars to phones. The Act also includes funding for basic science research, which could lead to new technological advancements and potentially create new research hubs across the US. However, the successful implementation of the Act depends on how the funds are distributed and used, with concerns about potential corporate welfare and executive profits. Overall, the CHIPS Act represents a bold attempt by the US government to rebuild its semiconductor industry and maintain technological competitiveness.

    • Revitalizing semiconductor manufacturing through industrial policyThe CHIPS Act aims to revitalize US semiconductor manufacturing, encourage private investment, foster regional development, and promote competition, challenging traditional critiques of industrial policy.

      The CHIPS Act, aimed at revitalizing semiconductor manufacturing in the US, represents a bold attempt at industrial policy that goes beyond traditional infrastructure projects. It's an industry where expertise is primarily held by the sector itself, and there's a need for more research to understand how to develop stronger capabilities. However, there's potential for spin-offs and new opportunities that could emerge from this investment. Despite concerns about government picking winners and losers, the intention is to support a sector, not a specific company. The goal is to encourage private investment, foster regional development, and promote competition in a market currently dominated by a few players. This ambitious endeavor challenges the traditional critique of industrial policy and could lead to significant economic benefits.

    • Revitalizing regions and creating a resilient supply chainThe CHIPS Act aims to bring manufacturing back to the US, create high-paying jobs, and address economic inequality, but critics warn of potential risks of crony capitalism and implementation challenges.

      The CHIPS Act aims to bring manufacturing home and create a more resilient supply chain, while also addressing regional economic inequality by establishing advanced manufacturing hubs with high-paying jobs. However, critics argue that this industrial policy risks privatizing profits while socializing risks, making it a form of crony capitalism. The legislation's multiple objectives, such as geographic equality and advanced manufacturing, may make the implementation challenging and increase uncertainty. Despite these concerns, the intention behind the CHIPS Act is to revitalize certain regions and create a more self-sufficient and competitive semiconductor industry.

    • Government's Infrastructure, Semiconductors, and Green Manufacturing ChallengeThe current administration faces a complex challenge in implementing a comprehensive plan for infrastructure, semiconductors, and green manufacturing, requiring coordination across multiple agencies and long-term planning. The economic and managerial hurdles are significant, but addressing market failures and creating high-paying jobs is crucial.

      The current administration faces a significant challenge in implementing a comprehensive plan for infrastructure, semiconductors, and green manufacturing, which involves coordinating efforts across multiple government agencies such as the Department of Commerce, Treasury, Energy, and Environmental Protection Agency. The complexity of the project and the need for long-term planning make it a daunting task, both economically and managerially. Despite the challenges, it is crucial for the government to step in and address the market's failure to build robust supply chains and create high-paying jobs. However, the current legislation lacks sufficient planning capacity, and the administration needs to be equipped with new, holistic tools to tackle this challenge effectively. The success of the bills depends on the administration's ability to coordinate across agencies and prioritize actions. While the potential rewards of economic transformation towards a low-carbon future are significant, the road ahead is not an easy one.

    • Setting a clear vision for the future of clean energy and climate solutionsEffective implementation of clean energy and climate solutions requires clear vision setting, agency coordination, White House prioritization, and staffing/capacity building.

      Effective implementation of the recent legislation for clean energy and climate solutions requires more than just funding. It necessitates clear vision setting, coordination across agencies, and prioritization from the White House. The first step is to establish a North Star vision for the future of the country in 20 years. The second step is to help coordinate agencies to work together effectively, with the White House taking a stronger role in this process. Lastly, staffing and capacity building are crucial to ensure the successful execution of the plans. Without these elements in place, the whole might not be greater than the sum of its parts.

    • Lessons from the Defense Industry for a Talent Crisis in GovernmentThe defense industry's approach to attracting and retaining top talent, including less scrutiny and a collective national purpose, could offer insights for addressing the talent crisis in government.

      Finding talented individuals to fill critical government roles is a significant challenge, especially during a time when many people may be leaving the administration. These jobs are demanding and require individuals who can think through complex issues. The defense industry provides some potential lessons in this regard, as it historically operates with less scrutiny and is able to take risks collectively with a national purpose in mind. Infrastructure and chip production have gained popularity due in part to their association with national security and the need to outcompete China. However, the lack of scrutiny in the defense industry could offer insights into how to find and retain top talent for other areas of government. It's crucial to find ways to attract and retain skilled individuals to tackle pressing issues, as the consequences of inaction can be costly.

    • Rethinking Government Priorities: Safety vs. RisksGovernment should take calculated risks in areas like emerging technologies and pandemic response for potential game-changing rewards.

      Our values and priorities as a society, particularly around safety and security versus investment in areas like education and technology, are shaped by our ideologies. The speaker argues that we should be willing to take more risks and invest more in potentially game-changing technologies, even if some of them may fail, as the potential rewards could be immense. However, the government often plays it safe due to fear of failure and accountability. The speaker suggests that we need to shift our perspective and view government as an entity capable of taking moonshot initiatives, and that it's important for the government to be involved in areas where the private sector may not be best suited, such as fighting pandemics or investing in emerging technologies. The speaker also touches on the idea that the government's focus on efficiency can sometimes lead to overly safe and consensus-oriented decisions, and that taking calculated risks could lead to greater rewards in the long run. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of rethinking our approach to government spending and priorities, and considering the potential benefits of taking more risks in certain areas.

    • Moving beyond small government ideology for larger scale tech deploymentTo tackle economic and environmental challenges, we need a more active role for government in deploying new technologies like wind, solar, electric vehicles, and energy transmission lines. Coordination between federal, state, and local agencies and a long-term vision are essential.

      To effectively address the current economic and environmental challenges, we need to move beyond the small government ideology and embrace a more robust, imaginative, and public-oriented approach. This means increasing government involvement in deploying new technologies at a large scale, such as wind and solar energy, electric vehicles, and energy transmission lines. However, this is not a simple task. Coordination between multiple federal, state, and local agencies is essential, but can be complicated by mismatched authorities and differing priorities. The success of recent government funding for research and development, like the National Science Foundation and National Institutes of Health, needs to be matched with a similar commitment to deployment. The recent American Rescue Plan, with its $350 billion for state and municipal funding, illustrates the challenges of implementing federal plans at the local level. Overall, the shift towards a more active role for government in deploying new technologies requires a long-term vision and coordinated efforts from all levels of government.

    • Addressing community concerns in infrastructure projectsEffective infrastructure projects require acknowledging and addressing community concerns, including compensation for negatively impacted parties and a voice in decision-making processes, to foster productive conversations and build a more equitable infrastructure landscape.

      Effective implementation of infrastructure projects, particularly those related to housing and renewable energy, faces significant challenges due to the complexities of American federalism and local opposition. Compensation for negatively impacted communities could help alleviate some of these tensions and make debates less zero-sum. People's concerns extend beyond just property values and include the desire for a voice in decision-making processes. However, our current methods for resolving conflicts, such as lawsuits, are often inadequate. By acknowledging and addressing these concerns, we can foster more productive conversations and ultimately build a more equitable and inclusive infrastructure landscape.

    • Inclusive approaches to conflict resolution and economic developmentTo foster more inclusive and sustainable economic growth, explore alternative models like participatory budgeting and cooperative economic entities, addressing the challenges of speed and inclusivity in large-scale infrastructure projects.

      Effective conflict resolution and economic development require more inclusive and participatory approaches beyond the traditional methods of wishing for problems to disappear or resorting to lengthy lawsuits. The vision of rebuilding America, as proposed by figures like Joe Biden, involves large-scale infrastructure projects, but it's essential to consider the downstream transformation and community involvement in their implementation. The challenges of speed and inclusivity must be addressed, and alternative models such as participatory budgeting and cooperative economic entities should be explored to foster more inclusive and sustainable economic growth. These approaches can help bridge the gap between the need for quick climate action and the need for thoughtful and inclusive decision-making.

    • Learning from the Past: Montregan Cooperative as a Model for Democratic Economic Problem-SolvingExplore community-led initiatives like Montregan Cooperative, adapt lessons to American federalism, engage younger generations, and invest in civic infrastructure for a constructive approach to economic problem-solving.

      We should look to the past for lessons on small-d democratic economic problem-solving and decision-making, as we navigate through the complexities of the American system. The Montregan Cooperative in Spain is an example of a successful community-led initiative. However, these lessons need to be adapted to the unique context of American federalism. With a lot of private and corporate power in the country, it's crucial to explore alternative economic models. This moment of legislative action requires an all-society effort, and individuals, including political activists and Democratic voters, need to shift their focus from blocking bills to building an alternative. Moreover, there's a concern about the weakness of our civic infrastructure, including unions and think tanks. We need to invest in building entities that can effectively engage in this process, as the energy and enthusiasm of younger generations lies in action and creation rather than just fighting. The atrophied muscle of civic infrastructure in America, which once built things like the Civilian Conservation Corps, needs to be reinvigorated. It's time to embrace a more constructive approach and harness the energy of Gen Z to build a better future.

    • Exploring new institutions for societal issuesConsidering the realities of political and corporate power, new approaches to civic infrastructure can come from both within and outside of government. A call for national service is a potential step forward.

      There's a need for new institutions and a more nuanced approach to civic infrastructure in addressing societal issues. This can come from both within and outside of government, but it's crucial to consider the realities of political and corporate power. A call for national service could be an exciting step in this direction. Three recommended books for further understanding are "Middle Out" by Michael Tomasky, "Elite Capture" by Olufemi Taiwo, and "Chords of Change" by Deepak Bhargava and Stephanie Luce. These books offer insights into changing economic paradigms, the intersection of class and race politics, and strategies for social change.

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    You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.

    This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing from Efim Shapiro. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

    Political Climate Will Be Back!

    Political Climate Will Be Back!

    Political Climate is coming back to the airwaves! Catch new episodes every two weeks — wherever you get podcasts — starting Thursday, September 2nd. 

    Brandon Hurlbut, Shane Skelton and Julia Pyper will be discussing all of the climate and energy issues that you want to know about, along with a roster of fantastic guests who know the ins and outs of the politics and policies shaping the future of our planet. 

    This reboot of Political Climate is presented in partnership with Canary Media, and with support from the USC Schwarzenegger Institute.

    There is no shortage of action on climate and energy these days. Get the latest news and analysis with a side of debate and friendly banter on upcoming episodes of Political Climate.

    Listen and subscribe to Political Climate on Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitcher or wherever you get podcasts. Follow us on Twitter at @Poli_Climate.

    Big Climate Policies Hang in Limbo

    Big Climate Policies Hang in Limbo

    With several major deadlines looming, U.S. lawmakers remain divided on how to move forward with the bipartisan infrastructure bill and Democrats’ larger $3.5 billion spending package — both of which contain critical funding and programs to fight climate change and promote clean energy. 

    At the same time, Congress must immediately pass a spending package to avoid a government shutdown. Also (because there isn't enough going on) lawmakers must act quickly to raise the debt limit, with the nation’s borrowing authority set to expire on October 18, which would be devastating for the U.S. economy.

    On this episode of Political Climate, hosts Julia Pyper, Brandon Hurlbut and Shane Skelton discuss the rifts on Capitol Hill and what to expect from Congress in the coming days. Plus, they talk through some of the most significant commitments made by governments and the private sector during Climate Week NYC — a stepping stone to the UN’s COP26 climate summit.

    Listen and subscribe to Political Climate on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever you get podcasts! Follow us on Twitter at @Poli_Climate.

    Recommended reading:


    How to Jump-Start a Stalled Electric Vehicle Market

    How to Jump-Start a Stalled Electric Vehicle Market

    Buckle up. Electric vehicle sales are expected to take a big hit this year amid the current health and economic crisis. Industry analysts say the long-term prospects for EVs remain strong, but the jury’s still out on how quickly the market will rebound.  

    The EV market outlook could have a major impact on the U.S. economy overall. Boosting government investment in clean transportation is being championed by advocates and several lawmakers as a way to put Americans back to work and build out of the coronavirus downturn. The EV growth trajectory will also have a direct impact on whether or not the U.S. will be able to achieve the goal of net zero emissions by 2050.

    In the sixth episode of Political Climate's monthly “Path to Zero” series, supported by the public policy think tank Third Way, we discuss what it will take to decarbonize the transportation sector, with a focus on accelerating the adoption of electric vehicles. 

    We speak to Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, representative for Michigan's 12th congressional district, about what it will take to reboot the American automotive industry and get the U.S. EV market back on track coming out of the economic recession.

    We also speak to James “Jim” Chen, vice president of public policy at the high-profile electric vehicle startup Rivian. The Detroit-based company set out on a mission to “keep the world adventurous” by building rugged, long-range, high-performance electric trucks and SUVs. Rivian’s R1T and R1S have generated a lot of fanfare (and raised a lot of money). But are electric adventure vehicles really going to make a dent in reducing transportation emissions?

    Plus, Political Climate co-host Brandon Hurlbut describes what he likes about driving electric and the killer deal he got on his EV purchases. 

    Recommended reading:

    • Detroit News: Rep. Dingell aims to jump-start Washington electric-vehicle debate
    • Politico: The One-Woman Campaign to Get Michigan Back for the Dems
    • Verge: Rivian races ahead of other EV startups with $1.3 billion in new funding
    • Axios: These electric vehicle companies have the best shot at surviving
    • GTM: 4 Takeaways From Amazon’s Huge Electric Delivery Van Order


    Political Climate is produced in partnership with the USC Schwarzenegger Institute.

    “Path to Zero” is created in partnership with the public policy think tank Third Way. Episodes air monthly on the Political Climate podcast feed. Listen and subscribe on Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitcherGoogle Play or wherever you get podcasts!