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    Part One: Ancient Genocide and the War on Carthage

    enMay 31, 2022

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    • Investing in Education, NFL Schedule, Convenient Travel, Charity, and the Dark Side of Human NatureEducation is a crucial investment for career comebacks, NFL schedule release brings excitement, families can travel conveniently with Hyundai Santa Fe, charities demonstrate community support, and genocide is a human behavior, not limited to state-sponsored actions

      Education, whether it's through Purdue Global or other means, is an essential investment in one's career comeback. Meanwhile, in other news, the NFL schedule for the 2024 season is about to be released, providing excitement for football fans. Families, like Jody Sweetin's, can also make their travels more convenient with the Hyundai Santa Fe. Furthermore, charitable efforts, such as the Portland Diaper Bank, demonstrate the power of community support. However, a disturbing yet important discussion on Behind the Bastards podcast revealed that genocide is not limited to state-sponsored actions but is a human behavior that has existed throughout history. While the presence of a state structure can make genocide easier, it is not a requirement for it to occur. It's a stark reminder of the capacity for violence and destruction inherent in human nature.

    • The Role of Power and Organization in Mass Killings since PrehistoryThe availability of advanced tools and a centralized state can increase the frequency, lethality, and scope of mass killings, challenging the notion that they are solely caused by brainwashing or mania.

      The availability of advanced tools and the organization of a centralized state can significantly increase the frequency, lethality, and scope of mass killings, including genocides. This was evident as early as 8,000 BC, with the discovery of a mass grave in Lake Turkana, Kenya, which contained the remains of women, children, and men with signs of brutal violence. This massacre occurred before the development of any recognizable political entities or states, yet the perpetrators acted with intention, submerging their victims' remains in a lagoon to hide their actions. The injuries found were merciless but similar to those seen in later acts of genocide. The peoples of that time and place were hunter-gatherers and fisher-foragers, making travel easier due to the presence of water sources. The discovery challenges the notion that genocides are solely the result of brainwashing or mania and highlights the role of power and organization in mass violence.

    • Prehistoric Societies Engaged in Genocidal Violence10,000-year-old Nataruk massacre reveals prehistoric societies had a desire for resources and territory, leading to genocidal violence against women, children, and pregnant individuals

      The Nataruk massacre, discovered in Kenya over 10,000 years ago, provides evidence that prehistoric societies engaged in genocidal violence driven by a desire for resources and territory. This is shown by the violent nature of the killings, the targeting of women, children, and pregnant individuals, and the use of weapons not typically used for hunting or fishing. The researchers suggest that this massacre reflects the same motivations for conflict and violence seen in settled societies, challenging the notion that such behaviors only emerged with the development of states. Furthermore, while genocide is often associated with racism in modern contexts, the Nataruk massacre demonstrates that pure greed can also be a significant factor. The discovery of mass graves in Ukraine and ongoing conflicts in Africa serve as reminders that the drive for resources and control continues to fuel violence throughout history.

    • Raphael Lemkin's Definition of GenocideLemkin, a Holocaust survivor, coined the term 'genocide' in the 1940s, defining it as the destruction of a nation or ethnic group. Despite opposition, his definition was adopted by the UN in 1946, paving the way for international efforts to prevent and punish genocide.

      Raphael Lemkin, a Holocaust survivor and legal scholar, is credited with coining the term "genocide" in the 1940s. Lemkin's definition of genocide as the destruction of a nation or ethnic group, combining the Greek word "genos" for race or tribe and the Latin word "caedere" for killing, was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in 1946. However, the initial definition was challenged and amended due to opposition from certain countries, including the USSR, which objected to the inclusion of political groups as potential victims of genocide. Lemkin's work on genocide was motivated by his awareness of historical atrocities, including the Armenian genocide and the genocide of Native Americans. Despite his foresight, his ideas gained traction only after the Holocaust, and the concept of genocide as a crime against humanity was not widely recognized until after World War II. Lemkin's tireless efforts to define and combat genocide laid the foundation for international efforts to prevent and punish such crimes.

    • Understanding the Complexities of Defining GenocideGenocide involves mass killing or attempts to exterminate racial, ethnic, religious, cultural, or political groups with intent.

      The definition of genocide is a complex and nuanced issue. While the term implies the mass killing of racial, national, or ethnic groups, there is ongoing debate about what constitutes genocide and what does not. For instance, the killing of the Russian nobility might not be considered genocide, but the Ukrainian famine genocide, which targeted the elimination of a specific political and economic class, is generally accepted as a genocide. Scholar Raphael Lemkin, who coined the term genocide, also included settler colonialism, slavery, and assimilation as forms of cultural genocide. However, some states, including those responsible for winning World War 2, have resisted recognizing these forms of genocide due to their own complicity in such acts. Scholar Irvin Staub's definition, which includes attempts to exterminate a racial, ethnic, religious, cultural, or political group directly or indirectly, provides a simpler yet effective understanding of genocide. The presence of intent, as shown in the Lake Turkana mass grave, is a clear indicator of genocide. The complexities of defining genocide highlight the importance of understanding its historical context and the various forms it can take.

    • Shift in European Cultures around 28,000 BCEAround 28,000 BCE, European cultures underwent a significant shift, marked by the emergence of a warrior class and an increase in violent deaths, possibly indicating a genocide. New pottery styles appeared, signaling the replacement of one culture by another.

      Around 28,000 BCE in Europe, there was a significant shift in cultures, marked by the appearance of a warrior class and an increase in violent deaths. Archaeologists refer to this period as the violent replacement of the globular amphora culture by the corded ware culture. While there is no written history from this time, evidence suggests that there may have been a genocide. This is a broad clash between cultures defined primarily by their pottery styles. The evidence includes sudden changes in burial practices and the appearance of new pottery types. While it's impossible to know for sure, it's clear that something significant was happening during this time. This period marks a turning point in European history, leading to the emergence of new cultures and ways of life.

    • Ancient Genocides: Massacres and Cultural ReplacementsAncient genocides involved violent conflicts leading to massacres and cultural replacements, as seen in archaeological evidence from Poland and genetic analyses of distinct populations. Historian Scott Strauss notes that conflict within groups is a major genocidal risk factor.

      The replacement of one culture with another during ancient times, around 2800 BCE, involved violent conflicts leading to massacres and genocidal events. Archaeological evidence from Poland shows a mass grave of a large extended family from the globular amphora culture, who were brutally killed but buried with care. Genetic analyses reveal distinct populations, suggesting conflict between neighboring corded ware groups. Historian Scott Strauss notes that a history of conflict within groups is a major genocidal risk factor. Further research suggests that an influx of herders from the steppes led to a significant change in gene pool and cultural artifacts in Central and Western Europe around the same time. However, this theory has been controversial due to its similarities to Nazi race science ideas. It's important to remember that genocides have occurred throughout history in various parts of the world, including Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, Africa, and Latin America.

    • The challenge of preventing genocideDespite the difficulty in proving success and the belief that genocide is natural, ongoing efforts to prevent it are crucial. Continuous funding and attention are necessary.

      Preventing genocide is a challenging task given the historical prevalence of such events. The positivist perspective suggests that genocide is a natural state of man, making prevention an uphill battle. Moreover, proving the success of prevention efforts is difficult since the absence of genocide leaves no tangible evidence. The comparison was drawn to preventing mass shootings, where successful interventions often go unnoticed. The idea is that we should continue funding efforts to prevent genocide, even when it seems unnecessary, as crime rates dropping do not equate to a need for fewer law enforcement officers. The ancient Roman Republic's genocide of Carthage serves as an example of this concept, with the recorded first incitement to genocide coming from Roman politician Marcus Porcius Cato, who repeatedly urged "Carthage must be destroyed." This historical event shares similarities with modern political entities based on resource extraction. Preventing genocide is an ongoing challenge that requires continuous funding and attention, even when it appears unnecessary.

    • Wars between Rome and Carthage: Resources, not moralsThe Roman-Carthaginian wars were about resources, not democracy or good versus evil. Rome's infantry strength and Carthage's naval power led to different strategies and eventual conflict.

      The wars between Rome and Carthage were not about democracy or good versus evil, but rather two early states fighting over resources. Rome, an infantry power, and Carthage, a naval power, had different strengths. They got along well for a while due to their conflicts with other enemies, but a dispute in Sicily drew them into a larger war. Despite the popular narrative, neither Rome nor Carthage was inherently better than the other. The war in Sicily began as a proxy fight between two cities and escalated into a larger conflict. Rome's ability to replace losses with large armies allowed them to eventually become the dominant power in the region.

    • The Battle of Cannae and Carthage's defeatThe Second Punic War resulted in a devastating defeat for Rome at the Battle of Cannae, leading to Carthage's surrender and loss of territory, war debt, and fleet.

      The Second Punic War between Rome and Carthage resulted in significant losses for Rome, both in terms of lives and resources. A notable moment in this war was the Battle of Cannae, where the Carthaginian general Hannibal used a double envelopment tactic to surround and nearly wipe out the Roman army, resulting in a massive defeat. Rome's strength lies in its ability to replenish its forces, but the loss of a generation of young men left the Romans bitter and determined to crush Carthage. After the war, Carthage was forced to surrender and lose all its territory outside of North Africa, pay a large war debt to Rome, and give up its fleet. This marked the end of Carthage as a military threat to Rome. Additionally, during this period, Rome emerged as one of the first nations with proper politicians, led by figures like Marcus Porcius Cato, who railed against Greek culture and spent years hounding the victor of the war, Scipio Africanus, for corruption and profligacy. Cato's pettiness is a testament to the cutthroat nature of Roman politics.

    • Roman Consul's Harsh Tactics: War Crimes or Necessary Measures?During the Roman Republic, some consuls employed brutal tactics to suppress rebellions, leading to the destruction of cultures and forced assimilation, which can be seen as war crimes or genocidal acts by modern standards.

      During the Roman Republic, the position of consul held significant political and military power. When Marcus Atilius Regulus served as consul in 195 AD, he took command of Roman legions in Spain to suppress a rebellion. His military tactics, which include the killing of an estimated 40,000 enemies and the enslavement of entire regions, could be considered war crimes or even genocidal acts according to modern definitions. This is evident in the destruction of cultures and the forced assimilation of conquered peoples, similar to the experiences of enslaved Africans in the Americas. However, Roman slavery was complex, with some slaves able to attain their freedom and even become wealthy and powerful. Despite this, the harsh treatment of conquered peoples under Roman rule demonstrates the destructive power of political and military leaders during this era.

    • Ancient Roman Society's Complex Relationship with SlaveryAncient Romans relied heavily on slavery, using enslaved people in various roles. However, treatment varied greatly, with some receiving education and integration, while others suffered harsh labor and conditions. Roman military commanders also contributed to mass enslavement through cruelty towards defeated enemies.

      Ancient Roman society had a significant reliance on slavery, with a large portion of the population enslaved. Slaves were used in various roles, including as accountants, bureaucrats, and even in education. However, the treatment of slaves varied greatly, with some being educated and integrated into Roman society, while others were subjected to harsh labor and conditions, such as mining or working to death. This coexistence of slavery and Roman culture raises questions about the societal norms and morality of the time. It's also important to note that Roman military commanders, including Cato, were known for their cruelty towards defeated enemies, resulting in mass enslavement and even crucifixions. Cato's actions were not unique among his peers, and the Roman attitude towards slavery was a complex one, with some viewing it as necessary for the functioning of society, while others saw it as a moral issue.

    • Contradictory actions of leaders can lead to societal collapseLeaders prioritizing wealth and power over societal well-being can lead to societal collapse, as shown in ancient Rome through Cato's contradictory actions.

      The obsession with wealth and power, even among those who publicly advocate for simplicity and self-discipline, can lead to societal collapse. As discussed through the example of Cato in ancient Rome, owning vast plantations worked by slaves and engaging in money lending were contradictory actions to his public image as a simple farmer and critic of merchants. This contradiction led to the collapse of the Roman economy, as small farms were taken over by wealthy senators, making it difficult to recruit soldiers and expand the empire. Cato's misogynistic actions, such as advocating for laws restricting women's rights, further highlight the destructive effects of power and wealth. This historical lesson serves as a reminder of the importance of authenticity and consistency in leadership, and the potential consequences of prioritizing wealth and power over the well-being of society.

    • Ancient Roman politician Cato's views on women's rights and personal freedomsAncient Roman politician Cato believed women's involvement in politics threatened democracy and advocated for strict control over their actions. He extended his beliefs to social issues, attempting to regulate sex and homosexuality, and demonstrated intolerance towards alternative lifestyles through prohibitions and leading charges against certain groups.

      Ancient Roman politician Cato held strong views against women's rights and social control, which resonates with modern-day right-wing politicians. He believed that women's involvement in politics was a threat to democracy and advocated for strict control over their actions. Cato's views extended to social issues, including sex and homosexuality, which he believed needed to be regulated. His actions, such as prohibiting slaves from consorting with each other and leading the charge against a gay cult, demonstrate his intolerance towards alternative lifestyles. Overall, Cato's beliefs and actions reveal a pattern of attempting to exert control over individuals and their personal freedoms, which is a common theme among certain political ideologies.

    • Cato's Justification for War: A Pretext for Economic and Political ReasonsCato used perceived Italian weakness and Carthaginian prosperity as excuses for Rome's economic-driven desire to destroy Carthage, leading to a devastating war with significant loss of life and resources.

      Cato's justification for invading Dalmatia, based on the perceived effeminacy of Italian men, was a pretext for economic and political reasons. Later in his life, Cato's fear of Carthage's prosperity and potential military threat led him to spread false information about the size and proximity of Carthaginian figs. This deception, along with economic motivations, fueled Rome's desire to destroy Carthage. Despite Cato's claims of self-defense, the primary reasons for the war were economic, as Rome sought an easy enemy to rally against during a time of constant uprisings. The eventual destruction of Carthage, which held an estimated population of 100,200,000 people, was a result of Rome's increasing demand for unreasonable concessions, leading to a long and brutal war.

    • The Destruction of Carthage: A Historical GenocideThe destruction of Carthage by Rome in 146 BC, resulting in mass killings and cultural destruction, can be classified as a historical genocide. Understanding past atrocities and their impact on societies is crucial for learning from history.

      The destruction of Carthage by Rome, around 146 BC, can be considered a genocide based on the intent to destroy the city, its people, and culture. This event, which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands and possibly even all of the inhabitants, was part of Rome's increasing demands and eventual war. While the term genocide is often politicized in modern contexts, it is important to recognize that mass killings and destruction of cultures have occurred throughout history, including ancient civilizations. The hesitancy to use the term for historical events may stem from a belief that genocide is a modern phenomenon, but it is essential to acknowledge these past atrocities and learn from them. The discussion also touched upon the importance of understanding human capabilities for mass killing and the impact of such events on societies.

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