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    Part One: Vince McMahon, History's Greatest Monster

    enMay 16, 2023

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    • Building Community Connections and Expressing OneselfNeighbor to Neighbor encourages community bonds, Amy Winehouse's music promotes self-expression, and Robert Evans' podcast shares stories, sparking public fascination

      Building and strengthening community connections can bring about positive change and help during uncertain times. Neighbor to Neighbor, a California volunteer network, emphasizes the importance of relying on one's neighbors for social bonds and preparedness. Meanwhile, Amy Winehouse's "Back to Black" serves as a reminder of the power of self-expression and being true to oneself. In a different vein, Robert Evans' podcast, Behind the Bastards, highlights the impact of sharing stories about notable figures, even those from the sports world like Vince McMahon. The overwhelming response to the upcoming Vince McMahon episode underscores the public's fascination with these stories and the importance of open dialogue.

    • Exploring the Fascinating World of Wrestling and Vince McMahonDiscover intriguing stories and anecdotes about the wrestling industry and Vince McMahon, delving deeper into this unique and captivating world.

      Vince McMahon, the head of professional wrestling's WWE, can be seen as a larger-than-life figure akin to European royalty, with a wealth of intriguing stories and complexities surrounding his business dealings and personal life. Wrestling, with its unique culture and characters, offers a high density of intriguing tales that often surpass the casual fan's understanding. As we delve deeper into the world of wrestling, we'll share fascinating stories and anecdotes, showcasing the industry's captivating yet unconventional nature. Our shared passion for wrestling, whether through watching, training, or creating content, has brought us together, and we look forward to exploring this wild and exciting world together.

    • Wrestling's Impact on American Pop Culture during the Attitude EraThe attitude era of wrestling (1997-1998) significantly influenced American pop culture, with Vince McMahon's leadership shaping modern right-wing media and politics, as well as continuing the sport's tradition of combining competition with spectacle.

      Wrestling, particularly during the attitude era around 1997-1998, held a significant impact on American pop culture. For the speaker, it was introduced to them by a friend and provided entertainment for a few years. Unknown to the speaker at the time, this era marked one of the biggest surges of interest in wrestling in America, spearheaded by Vince McMahon. McMahon's influence extended beyond wrestling, shaping modern right-wing media and American culture at large. His friendship with former President Trump and his wife's role in politics further highlight his impact. Wrestling, with its origins dating back to biblical times, has always combined competition with spectacle, and the modern era of professional wrestling can be traced back to the French Revolution. The nicknaming of wrestlers during this time marked the beginning of the more theatrical, spectacle-driven aspect of the sport that continues today.

    • The unpredictability of public challengesPublic challenges can lead to unexpected outcomes, from small-town wrestling matches to high-profile feuds between film directors and TV hosts.

      The tradition of public challenges and fights, whether it be in wrestling or other contexts, has a long history. From open challenges at festivals offering CHF500 to anyone who could knock down a wrestler, to Internet comedy writers being challenged by a film director like Uwe Boll, these events have shaped various aspects of culture. These incidents showcase the organic and sometimes escalating nature of such challenges, and the potential for unexpected outcomes. Whether it's a body slam at a video game convention or a fight between a film director and a TV host, these events serve as reminders of the unpredictability and excitement that can arise from putting oneself out there.

    • From Competitive Sport to Entertainment SpectacleThe evolution of wrestling saw the adoption of Greco Roman wrestling, restriction of holds, and transformation into a more entertaining spectacle with elaborate throws and world champions like Paul Ponce and George Hackenschmidt, while remaining linked to the circus and involving physical risks.

      The evolution of wrestling from a competitive sport to an entertainment spectacle involved various changes, including the adoption of Greco Roman wrestling and the restriction of certain holds. This transition led to more elaborate throws and spectacles, making wrestling more entertaining for audiences. The first recognized world champion, Paul Ponce (also known as Colossus), gained fame through these wrestling tournaments and opened a gym for wrestlers and strongmen. However, it wasn't until the early 1900s that a more credible world championship emerged, with George Hackenschmidt becoming the first recognized champion. Despite the changes, wrestling remained connected to the circus and continued to involve physical risks.

    • Early 20th century wrestling pioneerGeorg Hackenschmidt, a wrestling legend, invented the bench press and hack squat, racked up over 3000 victories, and introduced Europeans to catch as catch can wrestling, revolutionizing the sport in both Europe and America.

      Georg Hackenschmidt was an impressive figure in the world of early 20th century wrestling. He was known for his impressive physique, which was considered remarkable even by today's standards, despite the lack of advanced muscle building techniques or performance-enhancing drugs. Hackenschmidt is credited with inventing both the bench press and the hack squat, making him a pioneer in weightlifting. He racked up over 3,000 victories during his career, many of which came from a 40-day wrestling tournament he won in 1900. Hackenschmidt gained international fame when he traveled to the United States and introduced Europeans to the popular American style of wrestling called "catch as catch can," which emphasized submissions and mat wrestling. This style became popular in the US due to its emphasis on safety and the ability to allow challenges from the public at large outdoor events. Overall, Hackenschmidt's impressive wrestling career and physique make him a fascinating figure in the history of sports and fitness.

    • The early days of pro wrestling: From competition to entertainmentWrestling promoters shifted focus from competitive matches to predetermined bouts for better financial rewards, leading to the evolution of pro wrestling as an entertainment form.

      The early history of professional wrestling involved a transition from competitive matches to predetermined bouts for entertainment value. This shift was driven by the business philosophy of wrestling promoters who wanted to create more compelling matches and keep audiences engaged. One of the earliest wrestlers to adopt this approach was Georg Hackenschmidt, a dominant wrestler who was advised to toy with his opponents and fake contests for better financial rewards. This philosophy led to the evolution of professional wrestling and its widespread adoption in various countries. However, it was not always easy to maintain the illusion of competitive matches, as egos and unexpected events could lead to genuine fights. The idea of a major sporting event being fixed was not unique to wrestling, as evidenced by the infamous 1919 Chicago White Sox scandal. Despite these challenges, wrestling continued to evolve and captivate audiences, with iconic matches like Hackenschmidt's marathon battle against Frank Gotch showcasing the physical and mental endurance of the wrestlers involved.

    • Transforming Wrestling: Ed Lewis and Toots Mond's ImpactEd Lewis and Toots Mond revolutionized wrestling by combining combat styles, theater, and choreography, leading to the creation of modern professional wrestling and performances in major sports venues.

      Ed Lewis and Toots Mond, two influential figures in the early days of professional wrestling, transformed the sport from a seedy entertainment for drunks and mobsters into a more choreographed and spectacle-driven form of wrestling. Toots, a large, hard-drinking, and gambling wrestler, acted as Lewis' trainer, sparring partner, and security, helping to develop new holds and tactics. Together, they introduced elements from various combat styles and theater, creating what would later be known as slam bang western style wrestling. This new approach allowed them to gain control of the wrestling scene and perform in major sports venues instead of back alley halls. Their innovations paved the way for modern professional wrestling.

    • Innovation and community-building in games and wrestlingMonopoly Go and Neighbor to Neighbor foster connections differently: Monopoly Go brings people together through fun games and unexpected discoveries, while Neighbor to Neighbor empowers individuals to help neighbors and build stronger communities.

      Both Monopoly Go and Neighbor to Neighbor offer unique experiences that bring people together in different ways. Monopoly Go, with its rare stickers, delightful emojis, and unexpected discoveries, fosters social connections through fun and games. Neighbor to Neighbor, on the other hand, empowers individuals to build stronger communities by helping neighbors in need and preparing for emergencies. Meanwhile, in the world of entertainment, innovations in wrestling during the late 1920s and early 1930s, such as the dropkick and go home sequence, revolutionized the industry and paved the way for modern wrestling. These pioneers, known as the Gold Dust Trio, made a significant impact by introducing new concepts and turning wrestling into a profitable business. Innovation and community-building are common themes across these examples. Whether it's through engaging in fun games or helping neighbors, people can come together to create meaningful connections and experiences.

    • Formation of the NWA in 1948: A mob-like union of wrestling promotersThe NWA, formed in 1948, was a mob-like union of wrestling promoters that violated antitrust laws but allowed for better control over the industry, leading to wrestling's growth into a national phenomenon.

      The formation of the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) in 1948 marked a turning point for professional wrestling. This was a union of wrestling promoters aimed at setting up rules, fixing wages, and blacklisting wrestlers who went into business for themselves. It was a mob-like operation that violated the Sherman Antitrust Act, but the participants had the financial means to bribe their way out of legal consequences. The NWA allowed for better control over the industry and helped wrestling grow from a local business into a national phenomenon. The alliance was led by Sam Muchnick, a former sportswriter who saw the potential in wrestling and brought together some of the most notorious promoters of the time. Despite initial resistance from some, including Muchnick's former friend Lou Thez, the NWA became a powerful force in professional wrestling, shaping the industry for decades to come.

    • Maintaining the illusion of competition in wrestling through kayfabeWrestlers went to great lengths to preserve the illusion of real competition by hiding their real-life relationships and even lying about their personal lives, contributing to the thriving of the industry for nearly a century.

      Within the world of professional wrestling, the need to maintain the illusion of competition and adversity led to the development of a secretive culture known as kayfabe. This term, which may have originated from a carnival language or as a way to tell insiders to "shut up," eventually came to mean maintaining the façade of the scripted matches and storylines. Wrestlers went to great lengths to keep their real-life relationships hidden from fans, even going to jail to preserve the illusion. While some fans were aware that wrestling was staged, many believed it to be real, and the industry relied on this belief to thrive. The complex dynamics of good guys (faces) and bad guys (heels) added to the intrigue, with some wrestlers even lying about their personal lives to uphold the illusion. The culture of kayfabe was so strong that it persisted for nearly a century, only beginning to fade as fans became more savvy to the performance aspect of wrestling.

    • Maintaining the illusion of competition in early wrestlingWrestlers in early days kept their families unaware of pre-planned matches and risked personal safety to avoid breaking the illusion of competition, fearing job loss and loss of fan interest.

      The professional wrestling industry in its early days was built on maintaining the illusion of real competition between wrestlers, even if it meant keeping their own families in the dark about the pre-planned matches. This deception sometimes led to dangerous situations, such as wives carrying guns to protect their husbands from rivals or wrestlers continuing to perform despite serious injuries. The fear of breaking kayfabe, or revealing the truth, was a serious concern for wrestlers as it could potentially jeopardize their jobs and the overall interest in wrestling. This era of wrestling was marked by a high level of dedication to maintaining the illusion, even at personal costs.

    • Wrestling: A Life of Fame, Fortune, and StrugglesMany wrestlers experienced financial success and fame, but the physical toll of the sport and coping mechanisms led to numerous hardships and early deaths.

      Despite the financial success and fame wrestlers enjoyed in the past, their lives were often difficult due to the physical toll of the sport and the coping mechanisms used to deal with the pain. For instance, Gorgeous George, an early popular TV wrestler, became a narcissistic heel and used to prance around the ring in a fur robe. However, his heavy drinking due to the pain and stress took a toll on his health, leading to his untimely death at the age of 48. This was not an isolated incident, as many wrestlers faced similar struggles. On a lighter note, the discussion also touched upon the entertainment value of works like "They Live" and "Always Sunny in Philadelphia," which feature iconic wrestling figures. Overall, the past and present of wrestling present a complex picture of fame, fortune, and hardships.

    • Professional wrestling's complex history of brutality and camaraderieDespite exploitation and controversial acts, wrestling's cultural values led to clear-cut good vs evil portrayals and both compassionate and monstrous promoters.

      The professional wrestling industry during the period discussed was marked by both brutality and camaraderie. While some promoters were exploitative and even monstrous, others showed compassion and solidarity towards injured or retired wrestlers. The industry's cultural values led to clear-cut good guys and bad guys portrayals on television, with some wrestlers, like Fritz von Erich, wearing Nazi regalia as part of their act. Fritz, trained by Stu Hart, wore the Iron Claw as his trademark move and wrestled in Nazi uniform, despite Hart's objections. The Von Erich family story is a tragic one, with Fritz's brother Waldo also being a part of the wrestling scene and embodying Nazi ideology in the ring. The clip of Waldo's 1975 match against Jay Strongbow, an Italian wrestler in a native headdress, showcases Waldo's Nazi attire and behavior, adding to the complex and problematic history of professional wrestling during this time.

    • The Von Erich family's impact on Texas wrestlingThe Von Erichs, led by Fritz, had a significant impact on Texas wrestling, but Fritz's past and controversial training methods raised concerns about racism and abuse.

      The Von Erich wrestling family, led by Fritz Von Erich, had a significant impact on the wrestling industry in Texas during the 1970s and 1980s. However, Fritz's past as a suspected Nazi sympathizer and his controversial training methods raised concerns about racism and abuse. Despite these issues, the Von Erichs became popular wrestling stars, and Fritz continued to reinvest his earnings into real estate. He also became friends with Pat Robertson, a moral crusader and major right-wing donor in Texas. The family's success came at a cost, as several members suffered injuries and some died young, including Jack Jr., who died from accidental electrocution and drowning. Fritz's intense training methods, which included grueling workout sessions and the use of painkillers to keep his sons performing, raised questions about the ethics of the wrestling industry and the role of family dynamics in it. Overall, the Von Erich family's story highlights the complexities and controversies of the wrestling world during this era.

    • Professional wrestling's dark past: Drug use and health issuesDuring the 1980s, professional wrestling saw rampant use of performance-enhancing drugs, alcohol, and painkillers, leading to health issues and tragic deaths. The pressure to entertain and bulk up often resulted in dangerous substance abuse.

      The use of performance-enhancing drugs like steroids was rampant in professional wrestling during the 1980s, leading to health issues and tragic deaths. The pressure to bulk up and entertain crowds often resulted in wrestlers taking dangerous substances, which took a toll on their bodies. The case of David Von Erich, who died at age 25 after a match in Japan, highlights the dangerous combination of drugs, alcohol, and the grueling wrestling tour schedule. The use of cocaine and painkillers was also common to get amped up for matches and to cope with pain and injuries. The tragic death of David Von Erich was exploited by his promoter, Fritz Von Erich, who profited from selling photos of his dead son and setting up a title match for his surviving son, Kerry. The risks associated with using performance-enhancing drugs and other substances were much higher during that time, and it's important to remember that their use is dangerous and not recommended.

    • Culture of pushing injured wrestlers to perform in the 1980sThe 1980s wrestling culture disregarded wrestlers' health, pushing them to perform despite injuries and illnesses, leading to tragic consequences.

      During the 1980s in professional wrestling, there was a culture of pushing injured wrestlers back into the ring despite their health conditions. This is exemplified by the story of the Von Erich family, specifically Michael Von Erich. After surviving a near-fatal accident, Michael was repackaged as a living miracle and pushed to perform again, despite being permanently injured and contracting hepatitis. The pressure to perform continued even after his return, leading to further health issues and eventually his tragic suicide at the age of 23. This culture of disregard for the wrestlers' well-being was perpetuated by the wrestling promoters and the kayfabe (the maintained illusion of the storyline being real) that prevented announcers from acknowledging real-life tragedies as distinct from scripted events.

    • The Tragic Life of Kerry Von Erich: A Career Marked by Struggle and TragedyThe wrestling industry demands a lot from its performers, physically and emotionally, and for some, the price is too high.

      The life of professional wrestler Kerry Von Erich was marked by tragedy and struggle. Despite a challenging health condition that left him smaller than his brothers and prone to injuries, Kerry pursued a career in wrestling due to family circumstances. His addiction to painkillers and narcotics worsened over time, leading to a self-inflicted gunshot wound that ended his life at the young age of 33. Kerry's story is a tragic one, but it's important to note that he is not alone in his struggles. The discussion also touched upon the dark side of the wrestling industry and the responsibilities of figures like Vince McMahon. Ultimately, the conversation served as a reminder of the complex realities behind the glitz and glamour of professional wrestling. It's a business that demands a lot from its performers, both physically and emotionally. And for some, the price is too high.

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