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    'Putin has become a caricature of himself’: Understanding Russia with Mark Galeotti

    enFebruary 10, 2024

    Podcast Summary

    • The war in Ukraine impacts Russians' daily lives significantlyThe war in Ukraine causes infrastructure issues, inflation, corruption, fear of mobilization, and uncertainty for Russians, making their daily lives challenging.

      For Russians today, the war in Ukraine looms large over their daily lives, despite their efforts to focus on ordinary concerns. The Russian government's massive spending on the war and security has led to infrastructure issues, inflation, and corruption, making day-to-day life a challenge for many. However, the war's impact extends beyond practical concerns, as the constant fear of mobilization and the Kremlin's increasing focus on the conflict can leave Russians feeling uncertain and anxious. Moreover, the diversity within the Russian Federation, made up of various republics and regions, complicates the question of what Russians think as a whole. Despite historical tensions, the experiences of the czarist and Soviet empires have largely kept the federation united, with the exception of regions like Chechnya and Muslim areas in the North Caucasus. Overall, the war in Ukraine has become an integral part of Russians' lives, whether they want it to be or not.

    • Understanding Russia's Cohesive State and Potential for InstabilityRussia's diverse regions form a cohesive state, but economic hardships and dissatisfaction with the social contract can fuel protests, potentially leading to instability. Putin's decisions are driven by strategic goals and personal motivations, with an emphasis on maintaining power.

      Russia's diverse regions, while having unique economic, political, and cultural concerns, collectively form a cohesive state. However, the Russian government is concerned about the potential for local issues to spark widespread protests, which could lead to instability. These protests are more likely to be fueled by economic hardships and dissatisfaction with the current social contract, rather than political ideologies. Putin's ruling style is seen as rational, but with an ego and a drive to maintain his power. Understanding Putin's decisions involves considering both his strategic goals and his personal motivations. The potential for unpredictability exists, but it is important to remember that Putin generally acts in ways that serve his interests as the Russian leader.

    • Putin's narrow circle and biased informationPutin's isolation and reliance on biased advisors have led to dangerous international crises, including the invasion of Ukraine, and a growing rift with the West.

      The narrowing of Putin's circle and the jettisoning of those who challenge his perspectives have contributed to Russia's recent international crises. Rational people, even those close to Putin, have been reluctant to share opposing views, leading Putin to make decisions based on biased information. This dynamic is exemplified by the behavior of Putin's advisors, such as Nikolai Patrushev, who peddle conspiracy theories and reinforce Putin's beliefs. The result is a dangerous situation where Putin is surrounded by those who tell him what he wants to hear, rather than the truth. This dynamic, in turn, has led to miscalculations, such as the invasion of Ukraine, and a growing rift between Russia and the West.

    • Putin uses individuals and structures to shape public opinionPutin manipulates public opinion through allies, misrepresented Russian views on war, and many Russians are his hostages, unable to challenge his rule.

      Vladimir Putin utilizes various individuals and structures to shape public opinion and further his political agenda, with some individuals like the former Russian ambassador to the UK, Andrei Kelin, serving as useful scarecrows. Most of Putin's closest friends are powerful businessmen who benefit from their relationship with him without holding official positions. The defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, is another key figure to watch, but he is currently not in charge of the war effort. The media, particularly Western media, often misrepresent the Russian population's views on the war, assuming a lack of anti-war protests equates to support for Putin's actions. In reality, many Russians are opposed to the war but are unable or unwilling to express their dissent due to the authoritarian nature of the Russian government. Russians generally prefer to consume escapist entertainment rather than news. Overall, it's crucial to understand that many Russians are not Putin's accomplices but rather his hostages, unable to challenge his rule.

    • The Reality of War: Slow, Painful, and ComplexWar is often a slow, painful, and complex process, and understanding the nuances of geopolitical relationships is crucial to avoiding oversimplified narratives.

      The perception of war as a quick and decisive event is a dangerous oversimplification. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine, as well as other geopolitical situations, have shown that wars are often a slow, painful, and bloody process. This misconception can lead to disappointment and despondency when outcomes don't meet initial expectations. Additionally, there is a complex relationship between Russian perceptions of the West and vice versa. While there is a deep appreciation for Western culture and values, there is also a belief that the West poses a subtle and dangerous threat. This dichotomy highlights the importance of understanding the nuances of geopolitical relationships and avoiding oversimplified narratives.

    • Recognizing Russian feelings of exclusion and conspiracyTo bridge the gap with Russians, acknowledge their sincere beliefs and make efforts to connect with ordinary Russians, recognizing their European identity and shared challenges.

      Understanding the complex perspective of Russians towards the West requires acknowledging their feelings of exclusion and misunderstanding, while also recognizing their belief in a grand conspiracy against them. For those interacting with Russians on a professional level, it's crucial to appreciate the sincerity behind their statements and policies, and to make efforts to reach out to ordinary Russians, who desire to be seen as equals. The current climate makes genuine communication more challenging, but adopting a thoughtful and empathetic approach can help bridge the gap. Additionally, recognizing the Russians' self-perception as Europeans facing hardships can be an effective way to connect with them.

    • Russian Internet and Government ControlsRussians heavily rely on the internet for information but face challenges due to government controls. Ignorance and denial about sensitive topics persist, making it crucial to look for alternative narratives and signs of manipulation during the upcoming presidential election.

      While Russians may be heavily addicted to the Internet and social media, accessing information in Russia can be challenging due to government controls. Despite this, there is still a wealth of information available if one knows where to look and how to parse it. However, when it comes to discussing sensitive topics like war crimes committed by Russian troops in Ukraine, there is a significant amount of ignorance and denial within Russian society. The state's control over media and the internet makes it difficult for people to access alternative narratives, leading to a lack of discussion on these topics. As for the upcoming presidential election, the Kremlin is expected to use its usual tactics to manipulate the outcome, such as controlling the narrative through state media, suppressing opposition voices, and using disinformation campaigns. To spot something out of the ordinary, look for unexpected shifts in public opinion or a sudden surge in discussion about alternative candidates. Additionally, pay attention to any signs of mass protests or civil unrest, as these could indicate dissatisfaction with the election results.

    • Russian Elections: A Legitimizing RitualDespite manipulation, Russian elections matter as they legitimize Putin's rule, exclude opposition, and offer sweeteners to constituencies, with electronic voting making manipulation easier.

      Despite the rigged and staged nature of Russian elections under Putin, they still matter. The Kremlin goes through the motions of holding elections as a legitimizing ritual, making the results look somewhat plausible to the Russian population. They exclude real opposition and put Putin up against weak and controversial candidates to make him appear as a towering statesman. They also offer sweeteners before the elections, such as raising the minimum wage or providing perks to certain constituencies. This year, they have allowed electronic voting, making it easier to manipulate results without worrying about people watching the process. The effectiveness of the state in stage managing the process and the response from the Russian population are key factors to watch. Putin's legacy for Russians and Russia remains an interesting question, as he is an aging leader whose condition in the next 10 years is uncertain.

    • Putin's Legacy: Tragic Figure Who Weakened RussiaPutin, a tragic figure, weakened Russia despite his ambition to be a great power builder. Future generations may focus on improving relations with the West, introducing rule of law, and seeking opportunities for industrial-scale theft.

      Vladimir Putin's legacy will be defined not by the great power status he sought, but as a transitional figure whose actions weakened Russia. Putin, who saw himself as a Russian state builder, compared himself to historical figures like Peter the Great and Ivan the Third. However, instead of being remembered as a hero, he will likely be seen as a tragic and disastrous figure who tried to maintain Russia's power in an era when it was no longer a genuine great power. The people around him, who are mostly in their 60s and 70s, are part of a generation that made it into the Soviet elite but are now facing the collapse of the system they built their careers on. Putin's focus on making Russia a strong power has come at the expense of draining the country's resources and leaving it vastly weaker. The next generation of Russians, who are increasingly impatient with Putin and his aging colleagues, are amoral pragmatists who want the opportunity to steal on an industrial scale and enjoy the fruits of their labor. They will likely seek to improve relations with the West, be connected to the global system, and introduce the rule of law to legitimize their theft. In the short term, there is a risk of someone equally unpleasant taking over, but in the long term, Russia may transition towards a more pragmatic and rule-of-law oriented society.

    • The importance of rule of law for democratic societies and wealth transfer in RussiaRule of law is essential for democratic societies and peaceful wealth transfer, especially in Russia where its absence during democratization attempts caused chaos. Putin's failure to arbitrate disputes within his elite led to the 2011 Moscow protests, highlighting the need for a strong, impartial legal system.

      The rule of law is crucial for a democratic society and stable transfer of wealth, especially in Russia where an intergenerational wealth transfer is underway. The lack of rule of law during Russia's democratization attempts in the 1990s led to chaos and a stage-managed caricature of democracy. In the case of the 2011 Moscow protests, it was a personal power struggle between Putin and Defense Minister Progoshen, but also a systemic failure of the Putin regime, which relies on divide and rule tactics to maintain control. Putin's reluctance to make tough decisions and arbitrate disputes within his elite ultimately led to the embarrassing mutiny. The importance of rule of law cannot be overstated for ensuring a peaceful and democratic transition of power and wealth.

    • Putin's control over Russia questioned during mutinyDespite Putin's reputation for absolute control, a mutiny led by an insider challenged his authority, revealing potential cracks in loyalty among the elite

      The power structure in Russia under Putin, despite its reputation for being a mafia-like regime built on personal relationships and loyalty, can be challenged when those at the top feel they have made a mistake. The mutiny led by Prigozhin, an insider, was a test of Putin's control over the security apparatus, and the lack of resistance was surprising. Putin's assumption of absolute control was questioned, as many in the elite seemed uninterested in stopping the mutiny. The event served as a reminder that Putin's strength should not be taken for granted, and that the loyalty of the top people in the security apparatus may not be enough if no one follows the chain of command. As for my reflections on understanding Russia, I have gotten things wrong by underestimating Putin's insulation from criticism and his belief that Ukraine would be an easy target. However, I have also gotten things right by observing the interactions between Putin and other elite figures, thanks to my long experience in the field.

    • A complex conflict with deep historical roots and geopolitical implicationsEngage with Russia after the war by reaching out to ordinary Russians and undermining Putin's propaganda

      The ongoing conflict in Ukraine is a complex issue with deep historical roots and geopolitical implications. It's not just a simple clash between Russia and the West, but a complex web of power dynamics and personal relationships within Putin's inner circle. The war is a tragic imperial adventure that primarily harms Ukrainians, but it's important to remember that Russia is not going away and will need to be engaged with in the future. To effectively deal with Russia after the war and Putin's regime, it's crucial to reach out to ordinary Russians and undermine Putin's propaganda. This can be done through various means, including sanctions, isolating Putin's collaborators, and using the internet to spread alternative narratives. Ultimately, it's essential to differentiate between the Russian people and the Putin regime, and work towards building a positive relationship with the former.

    • Stay informed, be flexible, and celebrate momsStay updated on Ukraine news, choose flexible insurance plans, and give thoughtful Mother's Day gifts. Embrace flexibility in life and express gratitude.

      Flexibility is a valuable asset in various aspects of life, whether it's through practicing yoga or having the freedom to choose insurance plans that suit your specific needs. The podcast "Ukraine, the latest" encourages listeners to stay updated on the latest news from Ukraine and to share their thoughts by leaving reviews or contacting the team directly. They also highlight the importance of flexibility in insurance coverage through UnitedHealthcare Insurance Plans, which offer budget-friendly options for medical, vision, dental, and more. This can be particularly beneficial for those in transition periods or missing open enrollment. Additionally, the podcast encourages listeners to celebrate Mother's Day by giving back to the special moms in their lives with thoughtful gifts from 1 800 Flowers. For a limited time, listeners can save up to 40% on Mother's Day bestsellers by ordering online. Overall, the podcast emphasizes the importance of staying informed, being flexible, and expressing gratitude to those who have given us so much.

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