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    Seth Gillihan || Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Made Simple

    enApril 02, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Preparing for Fishing and the HolidaysThe Columbia PFG Solar Stream Elite Hoodie ensures sun protection and breathability for fishermen. The UPS Store assists with holiday shipping to ensure timely delivery. Dr. Seth Gillhan discussed cognitive behavioral therapy's effectiveness and its applicability to all.

      It's essential to be prepared when going fishing with the right gear, such as the Columbia PFG Solar Stream Elite Hoodie, which offers great sun protection and breathability. Additionally, The UPS Store can help with packing and shipping during the holiday season, ensuring timely delivery of goods. During the podcast episode, Dr. Seth Gillhan discussed cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), sharing his personal journey from being an assistant professor at Penn to pursuing a deeper understanding of the brain and CBT's effectiveness. He emphasized that CBT is beneficial regardless of one's current situation in life. Overall, the conversation provided valuable insights into CBT and its application in understanding and improving mental health.

    • Discovering a New Passion in Mid-CareerPeople can feel pressured to continue in a career path despite misalignment with their true calling, but life's destinies can change, leading to greater fulfillment and value in unexpected areas.

      The speaker discovered during her graduate career that her research in brain scanning and genetics was not directly translating into clinical treatments, despite initial excitement. She had an epiphany during a yoga class that she couldn't continue in her faculty position, as she realized her true passion was in the healing work of therapy and witnessing people's recovery from traumas. This shift in perspective came after years of questioning the value of her research contributions. The speaker's experience highlights how people can feel pressured to continue in a career path even when it doesn't align with their true calling, and how our destinies can change throughout our lives. The speaker's background in clinical science and her work with trauma patients brought her the most fulfillment and value.

    • Working with CBT pioneer Aaron T. Beck shaped speaker's careerThe speaker's doctoral studies under CBT pioneer Aaron T. Beck deeply influenced her perspective towards mental health, emphasizing the interconnectedness of thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, and the importance of facing fears to overcome them. She was also inspired by the evolution of CBT into mindful CBT.

      Aaron T. Beck, a pioneer in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), had a significant impact on the speaker's career and perspective towards mental health. The speaker, who had the privilege of working closely with Beck during her doctoral studies, was deeply influenced by his approach to therapy which she found intuitive, respectful, and grounded in basic principles. Beck's description of CBT resonated with her, as it emphasized the interconnectedness of thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, and the importance of facing fears to overcome them. The speaker also noted the evolution of CBT into what is now known as the third wave or mindful CBT, which she further explored in her work. Additionally, the speaker's experience at Penn working under Martha Farah, a renowned cognitive neuroscientist, expanded her understanding of the cognitive and behavioral aspects of mental health. Overall, Beck's influence on the speaker's career and perspective towards mental health was profound, shaping her approach to CBT and inspiring her to help others overcome their struggles with anxiety and depression.

    • Behavioral activation: Changing behavior for effective thought and emotion changeFocusing on behavior instead of thoughts or emotions can lead to more lasting change in both areas through the combination of mindfulness and cognitive-behavioral techniques.

      Focusing on changing behavior can lead to more effective changes in thoughts and emotions compared to directly trying to change thoughts. This approach, known as behavioral activation, is a unique combination of mindfulness and cognitive-behavioral techniques. The author of the upcoming book "Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization" discusses this idea and how it goes beyond traditional CBT. He believes that humanistic psychology, which emphasizes the creative and spiritual possibilities of humans, can help us connect deeper with each other and reach our greatest potential individually and collectively. The author encourages listeners to support the podcast and preorder the book for a deeper exploration of these concepts. He also shares how he came to appreciate the depth of mindfulness practice and aims to integrate it more fully into CBT, viewing it as the context for cognitive and behavioral changes rather than an add-on.

    • Exploring the interconnectedness of thinking, acting, and being in mindfulnessMindfulness practices help us connect with our true selves by recognizing and challenging limiting beliefs through cognitive therapy, leading to more authentic living

      Mindfulness, whether through cognitive or behavioral interventions or simply being present, enhances our ability to connect with our true selves. This concept of mindfulness has deep roots in both cognitive and behavioral therapies, which have been interconnected since their inception. The "Think, Act, Be" approach, which includes thinking, acting, and being, should ideally be seen as interconnected rather than sequential. Core beliefs, which are stories we tell ourselves about reality, can get in the way of our true selves. These beliefs, while not always factual, can be mistaken for reality and lead us astray. Cognitive therapy, a key component of the "Think, Act, Be" approach, emphasizes the importance of noticing and challenging these core beliefs. By recognizing and questioning our thought patterns, we can gain a deeper understanding of ourselves and live more authentic lives.

    • Recognizing inaccurate thoughtsFirst, acknowledge negative thoughts. Then, challenge them with evidence and perspective for a balanced view.

      Our thoughts and beliefs, even those that seem deeply ingrained, are not always an accurate reflection of reality. Recognizing when we're telling ourselves a story that may not be true is the first step towards challenging it. Core beliefs, which are collections of interconnected thoughts leading to the same conclusion, can often be traced back to a deeper sense of inadequacy or lack of worth. However, it's important to remember that the universe makes space for us and that our existence has value, regardless of our past experiences or evidence to the contrary. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) encourages us to acknowledge and challenge negative thoughts rather than denying or replacing them with positive ones. By practicing mindfulness and openness to all our thoughts and feelings, we can develop a more balanced and accurate perspective on ourselves and the world around us.

    • Navigating Rejection: Adjusting Behavior or Thoughts?Consider personal growth through self-reflection, responsibility, and challenging negative thought patterns to foster resilience and promote positive relationships.

      When facing repeated rejection in romantic relationships, it's essential to consider whether it's our behavior or our thoughts that need adjustment. Positive thinking, such as believing we're amazing and others just don't appreciate us, might be accurate but unhelpful. Instead, taking responsibility for our actions and learning from constructive criticism can lead to personal growth. Accepting ourselves fully, even with our imperfections, is a form of self-love that encourages continuous improvement, much like an acorn growing into a tree. The concept of "cycling the puck" in CBT, as mentioned by Rob de Roubas, emphasizes the importance of identifying and challenging negative thought patterns to promote a more balanced perspective. Overall, self-reflection, responsibility, and growth are key components in navigating rejection and fostering personal development.

    • Patience and persistence in communicationEffective communication requires patience, persistence, and staying open to new experiences.

      Effective communication and understanding in therapy, or any relationship, requires patience and persistence. The speaker shared an experience of observing a therapist subtly introducing an idea to a patient during group supervision. Although the patient didn't fully grasp it at first, the therapist kept bringing it up, waiting for an opening. This approach is similar to passing a puck in hockey, where you keep moving it around until an opportunity arises. The speaker emphasized that people are more receptive to ideas at certain moments in their lives, and the 50th time an idea might not be the charm. Personal growth and understanding can be compared to a spiritual being having a human experience, where we may not be ready to receive certain truths until the right moment. Mindfulness practices, such as meditation, can help us stay open and present, allowing us to connect with these truths in a deeper way. The speaker shared their own mindfulness practice, which has evolved over the years from guided meditations to silent meditation and back again. Overall, the key takeaway is that effective communication and understanding require patience, persistence, and staying open to new experiences.

    • Connecting to our true nature through mindfulness meditationMindfulness meditation helps us move away from self-centeredness and impatience, bringing us back to our essential self and improving focus and authenticity.

      Mindfulness meditation connects us to our true nature, which is characterized by kindness, love, connection, calmness. It brings us back to our essential self, allowing us to build a better, more solid foundation for our actions and decisions. The practice of mindfulness helps us move away from self-centeredness and impatience, leading to a more centered and focused state. The speaker also shared that mindfulness can help refocus our attention and bring out the best in us, even if our lower level desires may try to override it. While mindfulness is not a panacea, it can help us be more authentic versions of ourselves. The speaker also mentioned his personal experience with mindfulness practice, such as meditation, and how it helps him feel more centered and less pulled towards distractions.

    • Embrace all aspects of self for true growthAccepting all parts of self, including imperfections, leads to authentic living and personal growth

      True self-awareness and personal growth involve valuing and connecting with all aspects of ourselves, including the mind, body, and spirit. This means being present in the moment and accepting things as they are, without judgment or resistance. Presence and acceptance are key practices for cultivating mindfulness and living authentically. It's important to remember that our true selves are not limited to our good qualities, but include our imperfections and challenges as well. By accepting all parts of ourselves, we can make decisions and take action from a place of clarity and inner peace. This perspective aligns with the idea that there is no such thing as a true self, as our identities are constantly evolving and shaped by our experiences. Ultimately, embracing the complexity of our inner world allows us to live more fulfilling and authentic lives.

    • The deeper self and consciousness: Beyond surface level understandingCBT offers insights into understanding self, but consciousness may be our truest self and a fundamental aspect of our being, despite complexities and ongoing debates.

      The concept of a deeper self or consciousness goes beyond the surface level understanding of ourselves and is not easily defined or proven from an evolutionary or scientific perspective. Some believe that consciousness is the primary aspect of who we are and that it is the truest part of our being. Others argue that our primal drives and instincts may be the deeper self from an evolutionary standpoint. Ultimately, the definition of the deeper self may depend on one's personal beliefs and prior understanding of consciousness and its role in our existence. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) can offer valuable insights into understanding and managing our thoughts, emotions, and behaviors, but it is important to recognize that there is more to CBT than what is traditionally perceived. The discussion also touched upon the idea that consciousness may be a more fundamental aspect of our being than previously thought and that it may be the truest part of who we are. However, the nature of consciousness and its relationship to our evolution and deeper self is a complex and ongoing debate.

    • Maintaining a deeper sense of awareness and connectionPractice self-kindness to strengthen foundation for deeper awareness and connection, despite external and internal challenges

      Our consciousness may not be limited to the brain, but the human condition makes it challenging to maintain a heightened state of awareness and connection. External forces like social media and consumerism, as well as our internal ego, can hinder our ability to be present and kind to ourselves. To combat this, it's essential to take action, such as making kind choices for ourselves, like preparing a nice meal or treating ourselves with compassion. By practicing self-kindness, we can create a stronger foundation for maintaining a deeper sense of awareness and connection.

    • Mindfulness, self-care, and aligning actions with valuesPractice mindfulness, eliminate unnecessary tasks, speak kindly to yourself, be present, focus on diet, exercise, and purpose for better mental health

      Taking care of your mental health involves various aspects, including mindfulness, behavioral activation, and aligning actions with your values. It's essential to find ways to make your day more enjoyable, such as eliminating unnecessary tasks or adding small pleasures. Be mindful of self-hating thoughts and speak to yourself kindly. Self-care also includes stepping out of the thinking and doing mode and being present in your experience. Additionally, consider the importance of basic self-care like diet, exercise, and a sense of meaning and purpose. Remember, mental health is not just about therapy sessions, but also about incorporating these practices into your daily life.

    • The importance of sharing knowledge and resources in psychologyCollaborate, appreciate each other's work, and continuously learn from experts in psychology through their podcasts and books.

      Learning from this conversation between Scott and Seth is the importance of sharing knowledge and resources in the field of psychology. Both hosts expressed appreciation for each other's work and encouraged their audiences to explore each other's podcasts and books. They discussed the significance of setting the right goals and keeping track of them, which Seth mentioned as an aspect not covered in their conversation that listeners could learn more about in his book. Overall, this conversation emphasized the value of collaboration, selflessness, and continuous learning in the pursuit of understanding the human mind and behavior.

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