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    The Job Part 1 w/ Paul Lieberstein

    en-usNovember 11, 2020

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    • Revisiting The Office's Season Three FinaleStars Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey shared behind-the-scenes stories of filming the pivotal season three finale, with surprise appearances from Jan and Andy, and co-writer Paul Lieberstein offering unique insights as a producer.

      The season three finale of The Office was a significant episode filled with surprises and important character developments. Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey, who starred in the show, shared their behind-the-scenes experiences of filming this episode during their Ultimate Office Rewatch Podcast. They discussed how Michael Scott named Dwight as his replacement at Dunder Mifflin Scranton, only for Jan to make a surprise appearance and try to win him back. Jim and Karen also left early to interview for corporate jobs, and Dwight made Andy his number two. The episode was co-written and co-edited by Paul Lieberstein, who joined the podcast as a guest. He shared his unique perspective as a writer and producer of the show, revealing that he found watching the episode again to be an interesting experience. Overall, the season three finale was a pivotal moment in The Office, and revisiting it through the lens of the two stars and a key writer brought new insights to its enduring appeal.

    • Paul's unexpected acting journey on The OfficePaul's acting career on The Office began as a small role due to a funny reaction, leading to a year-long commitment due to a refusal to use a fake beard.

      The experience of acting on "The Office" for Paul Lieberstein, who wrote and played the character Toby, was unexpected and led to significant learning. Initially, Paul was asked to attend a table read for a small role, which turned into a larger part. During the table read, Steve Carell's reaction to Paul's line as Toby elicited laughter and sealed the deal for the character's continued presence. Paul's experience as an actor began as a photo opportunity but evolved into a year-long commitment due to Greg Daniels' refusal to use a fake beard. This unexpected journey taught Paul valuable lessons about acting and the unpredictable nature of the entertainment industry.

    • Collaboration between actors and writersEffective collaboration between actors and writers can lead to stronger performances, a more enjoyable work environment, and a successful production.

      Effective collaboration between actors and writers can significantly enhance the production process and final product. The actors' ability to bring depth and justification to their performances, as well as their involvement in the creative process, can lead to a stronger sense of trust and safety on set. This was evident during the production of "The Office," where the actors often collaborated with the writers in the writers room and on set. For instance, during the filming of a kitchen scene, the actors were encouraged to imagine the room as artificially quiet to justify speaking louder. This level of collaboration not only improved the actors' performances but also fostered a more enjoyable and productive work environment. Similarly, during the writing process, Mike and Paul co-wrote an episode by working together in the writers room and dividing up scenes. Overall, the actors' and writers' collaboration contributed to the success of "The Office" and is a valuable lesson for other productions.

    • Exploring Jan and Michael's complex relationshipThe writers discovered Jan's downward spiral and introduced Shrute Bucks, showcasing their creativity and love for unique character quirks.

      The "Office" episode discussed showcases the complex dynamics between Jan and Michael's relationship, which hits a low point before ultimately leading to their reunion. The writers discovered Jan's downward spiral during a long talking head scene filmed on the lawn of David Wallace's house. The episode also introduced the Shrute Bucks and featured a hilarious scene where Creed attempted to flood the market with them. Justin Spitzer was responsible for creating the Shrute Bucks concept, and he had a fondness for writing Dwight's character. The writers often found themselves drawn to specific characters and enjoyed exploring their unique quirks and personalities. A memorable moment from the episode comes when Michael tries to convince Hunter to squeeze the sellers. Overall, the episode showcases the writers' creativity and their ability to bring the beloved characters to life through both heartfelt and comedic moments.

    • Exploring unexpected character dynamics for comedic effectThe Office writers intentionally switched up character roles and dynamics for comedic effect, leading to unconventional power dynamics and entertaining episodes

      The writers of "The Office" intentionally switched up character dynamics for comedic effect, as seen when Ryan was promoted to Michael's boss at corporate despite not meeting the job requirement of four years of sales experience. This unexpected change created a "Shakespearean" power dynamic between Michael and Ryan, with Michael feeling usurped and Ryan coldly taking over. Additionally, there were plans for a double date scene between Jim, Pam, Dwight, and Angela that never came to fruition, which still haunts the writers. Overall, the writers enjoyed exploring new character interactions and power dynamics to keep the show fresh and entertaining.

    • Jim's new haircut and a quadruple dateJim's new haircut was a combination of a writer's choice and John Krasinski's real-life circumstance. They also shared memories of a quadruple date scene and joked about leaving cards behind.

      The discussion between Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey on their podcast, Office Ladies, revolved around their experiences filming the episode where Jim gets a new haircut for his corporate interview. They also had a fun chat with writer Paul Lieberstein, who shared details about his upcoming project "Captain" on Audible. During the episode, they reminisced about a dinner party scene where they all went on a quadruple date, and joked about leaving cards behind. They also noticed the lack of plants at corporate reception and made some humorous observations. In the episode itself, Jim's new haircut was a combination of a writer's choice and a real-life circumstance as John Krasinski had to wear a wig during filming due to growing his hair back after a movie shoot.

    • The importance of relationships and their impact on personal and professional livesFriendships and romantic relationships bring support, understanding, and confidence during significant moments. Advice from loved ones can lead to personal growth and success.

      Strong relationships bring support and understanding during significant moments in life. In the Office episode discussed, Jim's friendship with his tall brothers and his relationship with Karen were highlighted. Jim took Karen's advice to get a haircut for an interview, showcasing their solid bond and his desire to succeed. Meanwhile, Pam, after confessing her feelings to Jim, appeared confident and unregretful, despite some teasing from colleagues. Additionally, Michael's office scene revealed his intention to name Dwight as his successor, leading to an emotional reaction from Dwight. A small detail, an upside-down electrical outlet in Michael's office, was also pointed out by a fan. While seemingly insignificant, these moments illustrate the importance of relationships and the impact they have on our personal and professional lives.

    • Discoveries about electrical outlets and light switches in 'The Office'The Office' scene discussed electrical outlet orientation and odd light switch placement, revealing complex character dynamics between Pam, Jim, and Karen.

      Electrical outlet orientation is not standardized and there's no such thing as an upside down outlet. This was an interesting discovery during a discussion about a scene from "The Office." Additionally, we noticed an odd placement of light switches in Michael's office and speculated about the reasons behind it. During the same scene, we observed a complex dynamic between Pam and Karen. Pam's behavior was perceived as rude by some, but she was also asserting herself and flirting with Jim in front of Karen. This led to Karen suggesting that they leave for New York immediately to escape the situation. A fan catch contributed to the discussion when they pointed out that Jim signed a document in pencil while mentioning his paperwork, which was seen as a humorous observation. Overall, the scene showcased the intricate relationships and dynamics among the characters in "The Office."

    • Behind-the-scenes moments add depth to charactersActors engaged in casual conversations, Jim pondered over a question, Creed's blog was introduced, and there were moments of teasing and humor towards Pam.

      Behind the scenes of "The Office," the actors, specifically Brian and Oscar, would often engage in casual conversations while in the background, with Oscar serving as their lookout to ensure they didn't disrupt filming. Meanwhile, Jim and Kevin had an unusual exchange where Kevin asked Jim who he thought was hotter between Karen and Pam, leading to Jim taking the rest of the day to consider the question. Additionally, Creed's blog was introduced, revealing his thoughts on various topics, including his preference for motorcycles. The scene also showcased moments of teasing and humor towards Pam, with Stanley, Kelly, and Meredith joining in. Overall, these behind-the-scenes moments added depth to the characters and provided entertaining content for viewers.

    • Actors improvised many scenes on The OfficeImprovised scenes added depth and humor, showcasing actors' understanding and ability to bring characters to life

      The actors on "The Office" improvised many scenes, adding depth and humor to the script. For instance, Jason Kessler's blog entries, including the squirrel in Michael's safe story, were real, and the scene where Michael announces his condo sale to the accounting department was improvised. Phyllis's fence browsing was also caught on camera during filming. One of the most memorable scenes, Dwight's promotion announcement to Angela in the kitchen, was a Shakespearean moment between the two characters, with Angela not even seeing Dwight's face. These improvisations showcased the actors' understanding of their characters and their ability to bring them to life in unexpected ways.

    • Power plays and symbolism in Dwight and Angela's dynamicThe 'Office' writers add depth to Dwight and Angela's relationship through power struggles and symbolic use of numbers, showcasing their attention to detail.

      The dynamic between Dwight and Angela in "The Office" involves power plays and callbacks to past events. In a scene where Dwight attempts to flirt with Angela, she rejects him, leading to Dwight's fantasy of owning a bed and breakfast with Satan in hell. When Jim points out the absurdity of Dwight's fantasy, Dwight reveals that he makes $80,000 a year, which fans noticed is equivalent to $6,666.66. This detail adds a layer of symbolism to Dwight's character. The power struggle between Dwight and Angela, as well as the symbolic significance of numbers in the show, highlights the complexity of the relationships and the writers' attention to detail.

    • The Power of Seemingly Insignificant DetailsBe mindful of the potential consequences of seemingly insignificant details and actions, as they can lead to awkward or uncomfortable situations.

      The use of seemingly insignificant details, like a person's credit card security code or a favorite TV show character, can lead to unexpected and sometimes uncomfortable situations. The speaker in this discussion shared her experience of having the number 666 as her security code, which led to awkward moments when ordering things over the phone. This experience was further layered with the fact that her boss, Dwight, wanted to demote her and replace her with a new employee, using Jack Bauer from 24 as his first choice. The discussion also highlighted the unexpected appearance of Jan in the office, which created a tense and creepy atmosphere, and Pam's response to Karen's passive-aggressive behavior. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of being aware of the potential consequences of seemingly innocuous details and actions.

    • The Power of Manipulation in RelationshipsJan's physical transformation and surprise reveal lead Michael to reconcile, showcasing the complex role of appearance and manipulation in relationships.

      Appearances can be deceiving and manipulation can be a powerful tool in relationships. Jan, feeling rejected by Michael after their breakup, goes to great lengths to win him back, including undergoing a significant physical transformation. Michael, feeling empowered by his colleagues' advice, initially resists her advances. However, Jan's surprise reveal of her breast augmentation surgery leaves Michael unable to resist her charm. The scene highlights the complex dynamics of relationships and the role that physical appearance and manipulation can play in them. The episode also showcases the unique chemistry between the characters and the witty banter between them, making for an entertaining and engaging watch. Additionally, the episode explores the theme of self-improvement and the lengths people will go to in order to win back a loved one.

    • Unscripted moments between Dwight and AndyImprovised scenes between Dwight and Andy during filming of 'The Office' added humor and were included in deleted scenes.

      During the filming of "The Office," there were numerous unscripted moments between Dwight and Andy during Dwight's interview of Andy for the assistant to the regional manager position. These improvised scenes were so entertaining that they ended up in the deleted scenes of the DVD, but there might be even more hilarious moments that didn't make it to the final cut. Another interesting detail is Michael's sudden turnaround in his relationship with Jan, which seemed to have progressed much faster than expected, leading to some continuity errors in the script. Despite these minor inconsistencies, the episode was filled with memorable moments and left the audience eagerly anticipating the next installment.

    • Stars of The Office co-host a podcast with support from teamJenna Fisher, Angela Kinsey, and their team discuss The Office and offer ad-free versions through Stitcher Premium

      Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey, the stars of the Office, co-host the podcast with the support of their producer Cody Fisher, sound engineer Sam Keefer, and associate producer Ainsley Buba Co. Their theme song is provided by none other than Creed Bratton, a fellow Office alum. For listeners who want to enjoy ad-free versions of Office Ladies, they can sign up for a free one-month trial of Stitcher Premium using the code "Office." This podcast not only provides entertaining and insightful discussions about the Office but also showcases the camaraderie and teamwork that exists both on and off-screen.

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