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    Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic || Why So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders

    enMay 23, 2019

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    • Complex issues in wireless service and leadership positionsImprove ability to assess competence, support affordable wireless service, and recognize talent regardless of factors like gender or body type.

      The high cost of wireless service and lack of representation of certain groups in leadership positions are complex issues with multiple contributing factors. In the case of wireless service, Consumer Cellular offers reliable coverage at up to half the cost of leading carriers. Regarding leadership positions, the issue isn't solely about women not leaning in or being less motivated but also about our tendency to mistake confidence for competence, leading to unfair judgments and missed opportunities for those with genuine talent and humility. The author, Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, argues that we need to improve our ability to accurately assess competence and recognize its value, regardless of gender or other factors. In the realm of fashion, JCPenney offers stylish and comfortable options for all body types, making it a go-to destination for spring wardrobe updates. And finally, the Psychology Podcast provides insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity, offering a greater understanding of ourselves, others, and the world we live in.

    • The Importance of Competence and Humility in LeadershipSocietal expectations and biases prioritize observable traits over competence and humility, leading to the promotion of incompetent men. It's crucial to evaluate individuals based on abilities and character, not just appearance or confidence.

      The perception of leadership often focuses on superficial qualities like confidence and charisma, overlooking the importance of competence and humility. The discussion highlights how societal expectations and biases lead us to prioritize observable traits like assertiveness and charm, rather than evaluating a person's technical skills, expertise, and genuine humility. This can result in the promotion of incompetent men. Additionally, the conversation emphasizes the importance of acknowledging the role of contextual and sociopolitical factors in creating barriers for women in leadership roles, while also recognizing that women's motivation to lead is equal to men's. Overall, the conversation underscores the need for a more nuanced understanding of leadership and the importance of evaluating individuals based on their abilities and character, rather than just their appearance or perceived confidence.

    • The allure of charismatic and narcissistic leaders can mask dangerous tendenciesFocus on selecting competent leaders with integrity instead of being swayed by charisma or narcissism.

      Our society often prioritizes charisma and narcissism in leaders, but these traits can mask a lack of competence and even dangerous tendencies. The fascination with charismatic leaders with dark sides, as discussed, can lead to poor leadership choices. Additionally, there's a growing trend towards selecting narcissistic individuals for leadership roles, which can result in a lack of integrity and morality. Research suggests that men are more likely to exhibit grandiose narcissism, and this trait over-represents leadership roles. However, it's essential to note that the dark triad traits of Machiavellianism, narcissism, and subclinical psychopathy can overlap, and the self-help industry's advice on becoming a leader can sometimes promote manipulative behaviors. The core of these dark traits seems to be callousness and manipulativeness. It's crucial to focus on selecting leaders who are competent, predictable, and have integrity rather than being swayed by charisma or narcissism.

    • The free rider effect in leadershipExcessive self-interest and lack of empathy in leadership can lead to organizational harm, requiring leaders to minimize dark side tendencies and become more humble and effective.

      The lack of empathy and excessive focus on individual self-interest in leadership roles can lead to negative consequences for organizations and individuals. This phenomenon, referred to as the free rider effect, becomes problematic when the majority of leaders exhibit these parasitic tendencies, leading to organizational self-destruction and harm to many. It's essential to minimize these dark side tendencies and work on decreasing confidence and narcissism to become more humble and effective leaders. Although narcissism can manifest differently in men and women, with women scoring higher on vulnerable narcissism and men on psychotic narcissism, it's crucial to recognize and address the issue in all its forms. By acknowledging and addressing our narcissistic tendencies, we can become better leaders and contribute to healthier, more functional organizations.

    • Focusing on science and evidence to select leadersTo improve leadership quality and increase gender diversity, we should prioritize selecting leaders based on evidence-backed qualities like self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and humility.

      The current trend of overly masculine leadership, characterized by overconfidence, aggression, and lack of empathy, has contributed to many problems in organizations. However, it's important to note that there are positive aspects to both masculinity and femininity in leadership. To improve the quality of leaders and increase gender diversity, we should focus on selecting leaders based on science and evidence, rather than intuition or biases. This means looking for qualities like self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and humility, which are not always prioritized in current leadership selection processes. Additionally, we should challenge our instincts and biases when making leadership decisions, and prioritize evidence-based approaches. This will help us identify and promote leaders who possess the qualities that make them effective, regardless of their gender.

    • Being mindful of instincts and culture fit in hiringCompanies should focus on conscious values and objective assessment methods to avoid perpetuating unconscious biases in hiring. Data-driven interventions and an inclusive culture are also crucial for creating a diverse workplace.

      Companies should be cautious about relying solely on instincts and culture fit when making hiring decisions, as this can perpetuate unconscious biases. Instead, they should focus on conscious values and objective assessment methods. Additionally, unconscious bias training may not be the most effective solution, as many biases are already conscious. Companies should also consider addressing these biases through data-driven interventions and creating an inclusive culture that accepts and values diversity. It's important to remember that appointing a minority executive as a diversity officer is not a comprehensive solution, and may even backfire if not implemented thoughtfully. Overall, a more deliberate and data-driven approach to hiring and diversity efforts is necessary for creating a truly inclusive workplace.

    • Focus on meritocratic leadership selectionImplementing a talent-focused, gender-blind leadership selection process can lead to increased gender diversity and a more meritocratic system.

      To increase gender diversity in leadership roles, the focus should be on assessing and selecting leaders based on talent rather than gender. This approach would lead to a more meritocratic system, potentially resulting in a slight majority of women in leadership positions. This argument, while not dismissing social justice and fairness, recognizes that corporations may not prioritize these issues. The author's previous work, "The Talent Delusion," emphasizes the importance of relying on objective data instead of intuition when evaluating talent. This current discussion builds upon that foundation by applying it to the realm of leadership and addressing the gender imbalance. The author's position is not in favor of quotas but advocates for a talent-focused, gender-blind selection process. This approach, if implemented effectively, has the potential to resolve the issue of underrepresentation of women in leadership roles.

    • Understanding Individual Differences: Beyond Flawed AssessmentsThe speaker challenges flawed criteria and tools used to assess individual differences, advocating for a more evidence-based approach to enhance understanding of people and improve leadership potential.

      The way we assess and understand individual differences, particularly in the workplace, is often flawed. According to the speaker, we use the wrong criteria and tools to determine what people are good at, leading to talent dilution. However, his main interest lies in decoding individual differences at the most fundamental level to enhance our understanding of people and improve leadership potential. The speaker's work has garnered various reactions, including some stereotypical ones, but the most promising responses come from those who challenge misconceptions and reframe their perspectives on leadership qualities and diversity in the workplace. By encouraging a more evidence-based and mature approach to diversity and equality discussions, the speaker's work aims to help organizations move beyond mere pretenses of care and toward genuine inclusion.

    • Men's societal privileges vs. women's challengesMen have societal advantages, but it's crucial to address historical injustices and foster open conversations for mutual understanding between genders. Both sexes should be held accountable for bad behavior.

      While it's important to acknowledge historical injustices and the challenges faced by women throughout history, it's also crucial to remember that being a man, even in today's world, is still generally better than being a woman in terms of societal privileges. However, this doesn't mean we should reverse these roles or create an overly challenging environment for men. Instead, we should focus on open conversations and mutual understanding between both sexes and genders. Men are starting to be held accountable for their bad behavior, and it's essential to recognize that there's bad behavior among women as well. The intersection of cultural and biological evolution is an intriguing theme that underpins these issues. Culture can erode or counteract some biological factors, and the goal should be to create a more equitable workplace with competent people in charge. Ultimately, humans have always found ways to transcend their biology and nature through technology and advancements. The key to change lies with the individual, and those who need it the least are often the most receptive to it. Unfortunately, those who need it the most, and are often in positions of power, are often the least receptive.

    • The Value of Nice Guys in LeadershipWorld leaders and individuals can benefit from the humility, curiosity, and coachability of nice guys, who can bring positive change and improve team success.

      Many world leaders lack humility, curiosity, and coachability, which can hinder their ability to effectively run their countries and improve the lives of their citizens. Nice guys, who often possess desirable leadership qualities such as empathy and kindness, are often overlooked for leadership roles. However, it's important for individuals and organizations to recognize the value of nice guys in leadership positions and choose them accordingly. Nice guys can bring about positive change and contribute to the well-being and success of their teams. Additionally, resources and support, such as those offered by CVS Health and Amen University, can help individuals overcome mental health challenges and lead healthier, happier lives.

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