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    Toxic Chemicals in Food Packaging and Makeup with Rob Bilott

    enMay 19, 2022
    What are PFAS commonly referred to as?
    How do PFAS affect human health?
    What actions have some retailers taken against PFAS?
    Who is Rob Bullott and what is his role?
    What challenges exist in regulating harmful chemicals like PFAS?

    Podcast Summary

    • PFAS in Fast Food Packaging: A Persistent ProblemPFAS, or 'forever chemicals', found in fast food packaging, are endocrine disruptors linked to health issues and environmental harm. Consumers and retailers should advocate for their removal.

      PFAS, or Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances, also known as "forever chemicals," are now widely used in food packaging, including those used by fast food suppliers like McDonald's and Wendy's. These chemicals, which have a shiny surface and are used to prevent oils and greases from seeping through, are man-made toxins that last forever in the environment and in the human body. They are endocrine disruptors and have been linked to low birth weight babies, lower IQ in children, and potential carcinogenic effects. Consumer Reports recently detected these chemicals in fast food packaging, prompting some retailers to pledge to phase them out. Rob Bullott, an American environmental attorney from Cincinnati, Ohio, who has spent decades fighting against the use of these chemicals, emphasizes the importance of being aware of their presence in food packaging and advocating for their removal.

    • Decades of Hidden Harmful Chemicals in Food, Water, and Consumer ProductsDecades-long use of harmful chemicals in food, water, and consumer products like cosmetics and food packaging, without public knowledge, poses health risks even at trace levels. Ongoing research and action needed to phase them out.

      For decades, harmful chemicals have been present in our food, water, and even in various consumer products like food packaging and cosmetics, without the public's knowledge. Companies like 3M have known about these chemicals and their potential health risks since at least the early 2000s. However, the information about their existence and use was withheld from the public. Now, as this information comes to light, people are becoming increasingly concerned about their exposure to these chemicals and their potential health effects. These chemicals, which can accumulate in the body over time, are highly toxic, even at trace levels. They have been found in the blood of people all over the world, regardless of their proximity to manufacturing sites or dumping sites. The sources of these chemicals are still being investigated, but they have been found in drinking water and various consumer products, including cosmetics. The more we learn about these chemicals, the more steps can be taken to phase them out of these products. It's a complex issue that requires ongoing research and action to protect public health.

    • Chemicals like PFOA and PFOS do not break down easily in the environment or human bodyMan-made chemicals with a unique structure, such as PFOA and PFOS, do not break down easily and tend to accumulate in the body, potentially leading to health issues. These chemicals, used in products like Teflon and Scotchgard, can remain in the body for millions of years.

      Certain man-made chemicals, such as PFOA and PFOS, which were invented around the time of World War II and have since been used in various consumer products like Teflon and Scotchgard, do not break down easily in the environment or in the human body. These chemicals, which have a unique structure with eight carbons, are not naturally occurring and are difficult for our bodies to process or excrete. Instead, they tend to accumulate in the bloodstream and coat our organs over time, leading to potential health issues. Companies like DuPont and 3M recognized the toxicity of these chemicals in the 1980s and advised against donating blood due to their persistence in the bloodstream. Recent studies have shown that firefighters, who have been exposed to these chemicals through firefighting foams and turnout gear, have elevated levels of these chemicals in their blood. These chemicals can remain in the body for potentially millions of years, and our bodies have not evolved to effectively eliminate them.

    • Chemicals PFOA and PFOS pose health risks and can be passed from mother to childChemicals PFOA and PFOS, linked to various health issues, remain in the body and can be passed from mother to child. Reducing their levels is crucial for individual and environmental health.

      The chemicals PFOA and PFOS, which have been widely used in industry and consumer products, pose significant health risks. These chemicals remain in the body and can be passed from mother to child through the placenta. Studies have linked them to various health issues including kidney and testicular cancers, ulcerative colitis, thyroid disease, preeclampsia, high cholesterol, and immune system problems. Additionally, they have been found to impact baby birth weight. The US Environmental Protection Agency has recently reassessed these chemicals and expressed greater concerns about their health impacts than in the past. It is crucial that we find ways to reduce the levels of these chemicals in people and the environment.

    • Likely human carcinogens in drinking water: PFOA and similar chemicalsThe widespread use and pervasiveness of likely human carcinogens PFOA and similar chemicals in various products pose a significant health risk, with potential consequences including cancer, and require urgent attention despite economic considerations and the challenge of finding an unexposed group for comparison.

      PFOA and similar chemicals, which have been found in drinking water around the world, are now considered likely human carcinogens by the US EPA. This means that there may be no safe level for these chemicals in water, leading to potential health impacts on a global scale. The challenge lies in finding an unexposed group to compare against those affected, as these chemicals are present in everyone's blood. Regulators and scientists are concerned about the widespread use and pervasiveness of these chemicals, which are used in various products, leading to economic considerations when setting regulations. For instance, these chemicals have been found in masks, including those used by firefighters. The complexity of addressing this issue lies in the fact that the chemicals are so prevalent and have been used for decades. The potential health consequences, including cancer, are significant and require urgent attention.

    • Companies Refuse Accountability for Harmful ChemicalsCompanies responsible for releasing harmful chemicals like PFAS into the environment have avoided accountability, leaving taxpayers and municipalities to cover cleanup costs. The US government is allocating billions to address the issue, but companies must be held accountable and pay for their actions.

      A group of companies are responsible for producing and releasing harmful chemicals, such as PFAS, into the environment for decades, leading to contaminated water systems and health concerns. These companies have refused to accept responsibility and accountability for the resulting costs, which are now being shouldered by taxpayers and local municipalities. The situation has reached a national level with the US government allocating billions of dollars to address the issue under the infrastructure bill. However, the missing piece is holding these companies accountable for their actions and making them pay for the cleanup. Despite growing evidence of the harmful health effects of these chemicals, some companies continue to deny any link between them and health issues. It's crucial that those responsible for creating this problem bear the financial burden of addressing it, rather than passing the costs onto the public.

    • Companies Avoiding Independent Studies on Combined Health Effects of PFASCompanies resist funding research on the combined health impacts of PFAS chemicals in people's blood, and a class action lawsuit seeks to establish a scientific panel. However, companies are appealing the decision.

      Despite the presence of various PFAS chemicals in people's blood, companies are not funding independent studies to determine their combined health effects. A class action lawsuit is seeking to establish a scientific panel to investigate these effects, but the companies are appealing the decision. Author Rob Bilott, who wrote the book "Exposure," shares how companies have manipulated science by altering chemical structures to avoid accountability for health hazards. Bilott's book aims to inform the public about the history of how these chemicals have entered the human population and the challenges in stopping their continued use.

    • Regulatory process for new chemicals leaves public vulnerable to health risksCompanies can make slight modifications to harmful chemicals and continue production while regulatory agencies and public catch up, putting the public at risk for extended periods.

      The regulatory process for new chemicals can be slow and ineffective, leaving the public vulnerable to health risks. As seen in the case of DuPont and its use of PFOA and later Gen X, companies can make slight modifications to chemicals and continue production while regulatory agencies and the public catch up. In this scenario, the harmful effects of PFOA were not fully understood for decades, and even when they were, the process to regulate and phase out the chemical took years. During this time, the company simply switched to a similar chemical, Gen X, and continued production without proper regulation. This game of "whack a mole" with harmful chemicals can put the public at risk for extended periods, and a more comprehensive and proactive approach to chemical regulation is necessary to protect public health.

    • Recognizing Rob's Dedication and HeroismRob Lott's unwavering commitment to environmental justice, holding corporations accountable, and making a difference inspires admiration and gratitude from his colleagues.

      The recognition and appreciation for the dedication and heroism of Rob A Lott in fighting for environmental justice. Rob's work in holding corporations accountable for their harmful practices has been highlighted in the movie "Dark Waters," and his colleagues express their pride and admiration for him. The conversation concluded with expressions of gratitude and respect for Rob's efforts, emphasizing his importance as a warrior and partner in these cases. Overall, this conversation underscores the significance of individuals like Rob, who are committed to making a difference in the world, even in the face of challenges and adversity.

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