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    TPP047: Should you invest for yield or capital growth?

    enFebruary 06, 2014

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    • Investing for Yield or Capital Growth: Expert InsightsTwo Robs discuss the age-old question of yield vs capital growth, sharing their experiences and resources from the property hub. Listeners share success stories and appreciation for the inspiring and informative content.

      The property podcast, hosted by Rob Benz and Rob Dicks, provides valuable insights and motivation for property investors every Thursday. This week's episode, number 47, focuses on the age-old question of whether to invest for yield or capital growth. The hosts draw from a popular thread in the property hub and share their own experiences and resources. Listeners have left positive reviews, sharing their success stories and appreciation for the podcast's inspiring and informative content. Mikey, number 7, praises the tried-and-tested formula of two experts sharing their insights and recommendations. Andy B. shares how the podcast gave him the motivation to finally take action and buy his first buy-to-let property. Mark Ward also shares his success story of buying his desired house and first buy-to-let property thanks to the podcast and the Property Hub. The hosts also mention a useful resource of the week, a calculator, which they believe listeners might find interesting. Overall, the Property Podcast offers a supportive community and valuable information for those interested in property investment.

    • UK government's revenue surge from property marketThe UK government saw a 19.5 billion pound increase in revenue in H2 2013 due to the booming property market, driven by rising property prices and lack of threshold adjustment.

      The UK government is experiencing significant revenue growth due to the booming property market. With stamp duty, corporation tax, income tax, VAT receipts, national insurance, and other income sources, the Treasury saw a massive 19.5 billion pound increase in the second half of 2013 compared to the same period the previous year. This surge in revenue is primarily due to the increase in property transactions driven by rising property prices and the lack of adjustment in the threshold. Meanwhile, in the Property Hub community, a member initiated a conversation about whether investors should focus on yield or capital growth when investing in property. This topic is worth exploring further as both approaches have their merits. Historically, capital growth was the primary focus, but with the financial crisis and subsequent market stagnation, monthly cash flow has gained more attention. As we delve deeper into this topic, we will discuss the advantages of targeting high-yielding properties versus those with the most potential for capital growth.

    • Capital growth vs rental yield in property investmentCapital growth offers long-term wealth creation and lower tax implications but is less predictable. Rental yield provides steady cash flow and certainty in financial projections but may limit potential profits. A combination of both strategies may be ideal for successful property investment.

      Both capital growth and rental yield are important strategies in property investment, each with their unique advantages and challenges. While capital growth offers long-term wealth creation and lower tax implications, it is less predictable as the growth rate depends on external factors. Rental yield, on the other hand, provides a steady cash flow and offers more certainty in financial projections. However, it is essential to consider the potential use of profits along the way before deciding on a strategy. Properties in prime locations that focus on capital growth tend to be less risky and attract good quality tenants. Ultimately, a successful property investment strategy may involve a combination of both capital growth and rental yield, depending on individual financial goals and circumstances.

    • Capital growth vs high yield in property investingNew investors should focus on positive cash flow to ensure financial stability and avoid gambling on potential capital growth. A balanced approach combining both strategies is often the most effective.

      When it comes to investing in property, there are different strategies to consider: capital growth and high yield. Both have their merits, but it's essential to have a clear end goal in mind. Cash flow is crucial for all investors, as it ensures financial stability and allows for efficient investing. New investors, in particular, should focus on positive cash flow to avoid gambling on potential capital growth. However, a balanced approach that combines both strategies is often the most effective. Sitting down to model the financial implications of each strategy and considering personal circumstances can help determine which one is best. Ultimately, the key is to make informed decisions based on thorough research and a well-thought-out plan.

    • Balancing yield and growth in real estate investingSuccessful real estate investors balance high yields with potential growth by researching location and market fundamentals, making returns during holding period, and selling when yield compresses.

      Investing in real estate properties for high yield and growth is not a mutually exclusive goal. However, it requires thorough research and understanding of the property's location and market fundamentals. High yield properties are often cheap due to low prices or high rents. When looking for such properties, it's essential to determine if they are underpriced and will appreciate over time or if they are in areas with little growth potential. A successful investor, Matt Smith, follows this strategy by buying properties with high yields, making returns during the holding period, and selling when the yield compresses, signaling the start of capital growth. This approach allows him to reinvest profits in more profitable opportunities. The key is to balance yield and growth by carefully analyzing the property's location and market conditions.

    • Identifying areas with good fundamentals for high yield and capital growthSuccessful property investments come from areas with strong fundamentals offering both high yields and capital growth. Adapt investment strategies based on goals, such as selling or refinancing.

      A high yield in a property market with good fundamentals can lead to successful investments. Matt's experience of achieving both high yield and capital growth in his investments demonstrates that these two aspects are not mutually exclusive. The key is to identify areas with good fundamentals that also offer high yields. This strategy can be adapted to different investment goals, such as selling properties or refinancing and moving funds to new investment areas. The importance of yield and capital growth was a topic sparked by a forum post, and the hosts encourage listeners to suggest more podcast topics and share their thoughts in the forum. The resource of the week was also suggested by a forum member and is a discussion on the benefits of renting versus owning a home for investment purposes.

    • Weighing the pros and cons of buying vs rentingConsider individual circumstances and market conditions when deciding between buying and renting, use calculators and expert advice to inform decision, weigh long-term benefits of homeownership against flexibility and efficiency of renting.

      When deciding whether to buy or rent a property, it's essential to consider the specific circumstances of your situation and the market conditions in your area. The New York Times calculator mentioned in the podcast is a useful tool for comparing the costs of buying and renting, but Martin Gordon's blog, Simple Money Lifestyle, provides valuable context and clarity on how to use the calculator effectively. Ultimately, the decision to buy or rent depends on individual circumstances, and it's important to weigh the long-term benefits of homeownership against the flexibility and efficiency of renting. Listeners are encouraged to check out the show notes for links to both the calculator and Martin's blog for further information. Next week, the podcast will discuss how to take advantage of cash deals in real estate.

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