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    TPP277: 5 real-life negotiating tactics you can start using today

    enJuly 05, 2018

    Podcast Summary

    • Understanding the bias and methodology behind house price indicesDifferent house price indices can report conflicting trends due to varying sampling methods and regional biases. It's crucial to consider these factors when interpreting the data.

      While house price reports from different sources may seem conflicting, it's essential to understand the methodology and bias behind each index. The recent example from The Guardian showed a 0.2% decline in house prices according to Nationwide and a 1.5% rise according to Halifax in the same month. This discrepancy can be attributed to the different sampling methods and regional biases of these indices. Nationwide, which has a bias towards lending in the South, reported flatlining prices, while Halifax, which has a bias towards lending in the North, reported rising prices. Both indices use modeling and extrapolation to determine national trends, and the accuracy of these trends depends on the amount of data available. With fewer transactions taking place, the results are likely to be less accurate, leading to potential discrepancies between indices.

    • Beyond Headlines: Understanding the Complexity of Real Estate NewsInvestigating beyond headlines is crucial for understanding real estate news' true implications. Regions and markets can differ, so multiple sources are needed for a complete picture. The Property Hub community offers valuable opportunities for those entering the industry.

      It's crucial to go beyond headlines when consuming news, especially in real estate, as contradictory stories can emerge just a week apart in the same publication. These stories may present misleading information, and it's essential to understand that the truth often lies somewhere in between. For instance, the property market's health can vary depending on the region, so relying on a single data source might not give you the complete picture. While it's not necessary to spend hours researching every headline, it's important to avoid accepting them as facts without further investigation. On a different note, the Property Hub community continues to grow, offering valuable opportunities such as meetups and apprenticeships for those looking to enter the property industry. In episode 272, an exciting opportunity for an apprentice to work with Rob and his team was introduced, attracting a high caliber of applicants.

    • Demonstrating value in negotiationEffectively negotiate by showing value, having options, and being adaptable. Clear goals, info gathering, and calculated risks lead to impressive results.

      Negotiation is not just about trying to get the best price, but rather providing a reason for the negotiation and demonstrating that you have other options. This approach was effectively demonstrated by Helen during her relocation, when she negotiated a discount with her preferred removalist by showing them that she had received quotes from competitors and was willing to consider other options if they couldn't meet her price. This tactic not only resulted in a successful negotiation but also showed the removalist that Helen was a valued customer who was worth keeping. Another key takeaway from the discussion was the importance of being adaptable and resourceful, as shown by the speaker's experiences of traveling to remote locations, running a successful events company, and organizing a charity event. Whether it's negotiating a deal or embarking on a challenging adventure, having a clear goal, gathering information, and being willing to take calculated risks can lead to impressive results.

    • Negotiating Effectively in Established Business RelationshipsAlways check the market and renegotiate for better deals in established business relationships to ensure competitive pricing.

      Even in established business relationships, it's crucial to remain vigilant about pricing and negotiate effectively. Suppliers may become complacent and offer less competitive prices due to a comfortable working relationship. Helen's experience illustrates this, as she successfully negotiated a better deal by checking the market and renegotiating with her preferred supplier. Chris's story further emphasizes the importance of negotiation skills, even when traveling or starting a new business venture. He effectively negotiated a discount and continued to push for a better deal, ultimately securing a vehicle at a lower price. Both examples highlight the significance of not assuming that initial deals are the best deals and the importance of actively seeking better terms.

    • Focus on fairness, friendliness, and firmness in negotiationsSuccessful negotiations rely on being fair, friendly, and firm. Fairness builds reputation and repeat business, friendliness builds respect and likability, and firmness shows confidence and prevents being taken advantage of.

      Successful negotiation often relies on the basics: being fair, friendly, and firm. Chris, who shared his experience, emphasized the importance of these three elements in his business and daily negotiations. Fairness ensures a good reputation and repeat business, while friendliness builds respect and likability. Firmness shows confidence and prevents being taken advantage of. By consistently applying these principles, one can build a strong reputation as a reliable and trustworthy negotiator. It's not about using complex tactics but focusing on the fundamentals. Fairness, friendliness, and firmness form a powerful combination that leads to successful negotiations for both parties.

    • Paint a bigger picture and emphasize long-term benefitsEffective negotiation involves understanding the other party's needs and motivations, and articulating how a proposed agreement benefits both sides for a long-term, mutually beneficial relationship.

      Effective negotiation often involves painting a bigger picture and highlighting the potential benefits for all parties involved. Charlie, a homeowner in Cyprus, successfully negotiated a lower commission rate with a local estate agent by emphasizing his long-term connection to the community and his ability to provide valuable referrals. Similarly, Matthew, who runs a real estate development company and an events business, negotiates significant discounts with DJ agencies by emphasizing the financial impact of their fees on his events' profitability. By clearly communicating the value they bring to the table, both Charlie and Matthew were able to secure better deals than they would have otherwise. Effective negotiation requires a deep understanding of the other party's needs and motivations, and the ability to articulate how a proposed agreement benefits both sides. It's not just about getting the best deal for yourself in a one-off transaction, but building a long-term, mutually beneficial relationship.

    • Building strong relationships increases bargaining power in negotiationsPrepare well, understand motivations, be open to creative solutions, and renegotiate when circumstances change for successful negotiations.

      Building strong, long-term relationships with clients and suppliers can significantly increase bargaining power. Negotiations aren't always expected, but understanding the industry and the expectations of the parties involved is crucial. Knowing the market value and what repeat business is worth to the other party can lead to mutually beneficial outcomes. Negotiations aren't just about money; understanding the motivations and desires of both parties can lead to creative solutions. Lastly, don't be afraid to renegotiate if circumstances change. Our potential apprentices shared valuable stories about successful negotiations, emphasizing the importance of preparation, understanding the landscape, and being open to creative solutions. Rob, our master negotiator, added that understanding the bigger picture, including the motivations and goals of the parties involved, is essential for successful negotiations.

    • Understanding all parties and their motivationsSuccessful negotiations require deep understanding, knowing what's important to each side, and being aware of own strengths and weaknesses. Use tactics like playing the villain to move negotiations forward, ensuring both parties feel satisfied.

      Successful negotiations require a deep understanding of all parties involved, their motivations, and the negotiation landscape. Sometimes, you don't even need to negotiate extensively if you know what's important to each side. Additionally, being aware of your own strengths and weaknesses, as well as using tactics like playing the villain, can help move negotiations forward. It's crucial to remember that both parties should come away feeling satisfied with the outcome. For more insights, check out our podcast episode 127 on negotiation tactics and philosophies.

    • Striving for mutual satisfaction in business deals and relationshipsPrioritize long-term benefits and relationships over short-term gains to build trust and lead to future opportunities

      It's important to strive for mutual satisfaction in business deals and relationships, even if it means sacrificing a short-term advantage. This not only benefits both parties but also builds trust and leads to future opportunities. A listener named Green shared their experience of gaining confidence and becoming a successful property investor through The Property Podcast, emphasizing the value of free and informative advice without a sales pitch. The hosts, Rob and Rob, appreciate their listeners and aim to simplify complex topics to help keep their audience focused and well-informed. Remember, always prioritize long-term benefits and relationships over short-term gains. And if you're interested in learning more about what The Property Podcast hosts do beyond the podcast, sign up for their discovery webinar at thepropertyhub.net/discover.

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