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    Tracy Graham - Investing in Overlooked Businesses – [Invest Like the Best, EP.206]

    enDecember 29, 2020

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    • Primary research and partnerships in investingTegus offers efficient primary research and expert calls, while MIT Investment Management Company partners with new investment funds for long-term focus and backing early careers

      Effective and efficient primary research is crucial for investors, and Tegus provides a solution by offering an extensive primary information platform with expert calls available on demand for a fraction of the cost of traditional methods. Additionally, the MIT Investment Management Company, also known as Matimco, is looking to partner with new and small investment funds, offering a long-term focus and a history of backing investors early in their careers. Tracy Graham, founder and managing principal of Graham Allen Partners, shares his unique origin story and discusses the undervalued opportunities in secondary or tertiary US markets and the potential of technology to improve old businesses. Overall, the episode emphasizes the importance of research, partnerships, and identifying undervalued opportunities in the investment world.

    • Lessons from a challenging childhoodGrowing up in a tough environment can develop intuition, creativity, and awareness. Experiences like attending a private high school, playing football, and being coached by Lou Holtz further shaped perspective and provided valuable lessons.

      Growing up in a challenging environment, as the speaker did in the Inglewood district, can provide valuable skills and experiences that are essential for success later in life. These skills include intuition, creativity, and being aware, which were developed through navigating the hardships of daily life. The speaker's experience attending a private high school on a scholarship, playing football, and being coached by Lou Holtz at Notre Dame, further shaped his perspective and provided him with invaluable lessons. Holtz's ability to unite diverse groups of people towards a common goal and his continued support of his players, served as a foundation for the speaker's approach to businesses and leadership. Ultimately, the speaker's upbringing and experiences instilled in him a strong sense of empathy, focus, and resilience, which have proven to be invaluable assets in his personal and professional life.

    • Lou Holtz's consistent coaching message resonated with playersEffective communication and consistency in delivering a simple, meaningful message can help build strong relationships and influence others. This was demonstrated by Lou Holtz's coaching style and the enduring friendship between him and Jerome Bettis, who later invested in his business.

      Effective communication and consistency in delivering a simple, meaningful message are key to building a strong reputation and influencing others. This was evident in the coaching style of Lou Holtz, who instilled valuable lessons in his players with a disciplined approach and a message that never changed. This approach resonated with his players, including Jerome Bettis, who later became an investor in the entrepreneurial venture of his friend. The friendship between the two continued from their college days, and Bettis played a crucial role in helping launch the business, Cybercom Business Directories, by providing initial funding. Despite the early success of the company, the lack of understanding of the potential of the Internet at the time led to financial struggles, ultimately leading Holtz to seek additional investment to keep the business afloat.

    • A chance encounter with a football coach led to the speaker's first business deal and financial successEarly experiences with secondary market businesses and technology investments shaped the speaker's current investment strategy in lower middle market companies

      The speaker's first entrepreneurial experience involved a football coach named Chase, who initially declined to invest but introduced the speaker to Jay Jordan instead. This introduction led to the speaker's first business deal and significant financial success. The speaker also learned valuable lessons about the midsize businesses in secondary markets and the importance of technology and data in these companies. Graham Allen, the speaker's current venture, focuses on investing in lower middle market companies in secondary and tertiary markets, believing they are often undervalued due to their location. The firm aims to help these companies adopt technology and data to improve operations, expand margins, and grow. The speaker's early experiences influenced this investment strategy, as he gained insights into the culture and needs of these businesses while acquiring technology companies that served them.

    • Traditional businesses in secondary markets can modernize with data and tech for better margins and growthPrivate equity firms like Grandmother Partners help traditional businesses in secondary markets modernize with data and tech to improve margins, increase revenue, and compete with larger competitors, particularly in labor-intensive industries like health care back office.

      There is a significant opportunity for traditional businesses in secondary markets to modernize their operations through the use of data and technology. This can lead to improved gross margins, increased revenue growth, and the ability to compete with larger competitors. The health care industry, specifically the back office of health care providers, is one area where this opportunity is particularly prevalent due to its labor-intensive and inefficient nature. Private equity firms like Grandmother Partners are uniquely positioned to help these companies make the transition and generate alpha through the use of data and AI. The deployment era of technology is expected to see a wave of traditional businesses catching up in the technology and data spheres, presenting both opportunities and challenges.

    • Technology enhancing traditional operating companies, particularly in healthcare and oncologyIn the healthcare industry, companies possess valuable, exclusive and perishable datasets that can provide unique insights and forecasting capabilities. Valuing such datasets is complex, but their potential value is expected to increase as more companies explore data science.

      There is a significant opportunity for technology to enhance traditional operating companies, particularly those with high labor intensity and a strong focus on intelligence and ideas. An example of this can be seen in the healthcare industry, specifically in the oncology space. Companies in this sector possess valuable, proprietary datasets that can provide unique insights and forecasting capabilities. These datasets are often exclusive and perishable, making them highly valuable. However, valuing such datasets is a complex process that involves determining the potential margin expansion from accessing the data and running intricate models. Currently, many lower middle market companies do not fully recognize the value of their data, but this is expected to change in the coming years as more companies begin to explore the potential of data science.

    • Unlocking value from undervalued data sets in manufacturingManufacturing data sets can provide valuable insights for informed decision making, but accuracy and creativity are essential for extracting value. Smaller manufacturing companies may lack resources to fully leverage their data and grow, presenting an opportunity for external support.

      There are valuable data sets in various industries, particularly in manufacturing, that are undervalued by the sellers and can provide significant insights when used effectively. These data sets can help companies make informed decisions in real-time, such as benchmarking sales and understanding the impact of different choices. However, not all data is equally valuable, and some, like clinical data in healthcare, can be particularly challenging to work with due to the high level of accuracy required. Additionally, having data alone is not enough; creativity and a solid business model are necessary to extract valuable insights. A typical manufacturing company in the Midwest falls into one of two categories: large organizations with numerous plants producing various products, or smaller companies with one or two plants and a focus on one or two core products. These smaller companies, despite their size, can still be strong and profitable, but they may lack the resources and expertise to fully leverage their data and grow. These companies present an opportunity for external support and collaboration to help them unlock the value in their data and expand their business.

    • Untapped Potential for Midwest Manufacturers to Scale with Technology and Data AnalysisMidwest manufacturers with $50M revenue lag behind in data utilization, but data can improve product quality, customer experience, and supply chain management. Future: data-driven plants with sensors on machines and reduced manual labor.

      There is significant untapped potential for manufacturing companies in the Midwest to scale and improve their operations through technology and data analysis. These companies, often with $50 million in revenue, have yet to fully adopt a scale mindset. While they have been successful in manufacturing and process efficiency, they are lagging behind in generating, producing, and utilizing data. Data is an untapped resource in manufacturing, with opportunities to improve both the manufacturing process and the business model. Engineers are already using data to improve products, and collecting data on product usage in the field is a growing trend. However, many smaller manufacturing plants struggle to effectively collect, label, clean, and analyze the data. The primary use cases for manufacturing data involve improving product quality, enhancing the customer experience, and optimizing supply chain management. With the increasing automation of manufacturing processes, the vision for the future is a plant that functions as a big data center, with sensors on each machine and a significant reduction in the need for manual labor. Companies that support the manufacturing industry, rather than being direct manufacturers themselves, are also of interest as they contribute to the data-driven future of manufacturing.

    • Data drives efficiency and productivity in maintenance and marketing for lower middle market businessesData from connected machines enables predictive maintenance and cost savings, while customer insights lead to marketing efficiency and profitability for lower middle market businesses

      Data plays a crucial role in optimizing various aspects of lower middle market, tier 2, and tier 3 businesses. In the realm of maintenance, data enables more efficient servicing and predictive maintenance by collecting information from connected machines. This leads to cost savings and improved productivity. In marketing, data helps businesses understand their customers better, leading to increased marketing efficiency and profitability. By analyzing net income at a transactional level, businesses can uncover hidden costs and adjust pricing strategies accordingly. Overall, data-driven insights can significantly enhance the performance of these businesses.

    • Analyzing customer data for optimization and profitabilityAccess to individual customer data and AI analysis enable businesses to optimize marketing efforts, client success, and overall profitability.

      Access to transaction-level data and the ability to analyze it individually for each customer is crucial for businesses to optimize their marketing efforts, client success organization, and overall profitability. AI plays a significant role in making this analysis possible at an efficient and effective scale. From a distribution perspective, traditional software companies often build their software in tech hubs and sell it through a combination of direct sales for larger customers and channel partners for smaller ones. However, there's a growing trend towards controlling the distribution of software directly, especially in targeted customer segments. Companies like Apple and Tesla have successfully implemented this model by selling their products directly to customers, providing a controlled customer experience from end to end. The question is whether customers want just another software tool or the full service that comes with it. In secondary markets, where talent for data analysis is scarce, providing a full-service solution might be more appealing. Companies that can develop strong products and provide these services could have a significant opportunity in the market.

    • Emphasizing affordability and ethics in software salesThe speaker advocates for software with affordable entry prices and ethical business practices, challenging the traditional high-cost model and emphasizing long-term relationships.

      The traditional model of selling software with full service and high costs may not be in the best interest of customers, and there's an opportunity to deliver software with more affordable entry prices and still generate value. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of treating others well in business and maintaining long-term relationships. He believes that doing business the right way, even when it's difficult or not profitable, is essential for success. Additionally, the speaker questions the high valuations of software companies in the public market and suggests that reasonable multiples of EBITDA or sales are more appropriate. The speaker's unique perspective comes from his experience straddling the modern and traditional business worlds. Ultimately, the speaker values long-term business relationships and believes that acting ethically and fairly is the key to success.

    • Essential values for success in business and lifeStrong ethical principles and treating others with respect are essential for navigating difficult decisions and conflicts in business, allowing businesses to unite and make informed decisions that benefit everyone involved. Personal stories and influences can inspire and shape our lives and careers.

      Strong ethical principles and treating others with respect are essential for success in business and in life. Graham Allen, the founder of Graham Allen Partners, emphasizes that these fundamental values, which he learned from his childhood friend Kenneth Allen and legendary football coach Lou Holtz, are crucial for navigating difficult decisions and conflicts that inevitably arise in business. Allen believes that simplifying these core principles allows businesses to unite around them and make informed decisions that benefit everyone involved. He shares a personal story about how his friend Kenneth Allen's influence shaped his life and inspired him to name his company in his honor. Additionally, Allen highlights the kindness shown to him by Chris Murphy and Jay Jordan, which significantly impacted his career and personal growth.

    • Two influential encounters changed the speaker's lifeActs of kindness and new experiences can shape our future and form meaningful relationships

      Acts of kindness and providing opportunities for growth can have a profound impact on individuals. The speaker shared stories of two influential encounters that changed the course of his life. The first was a business meeting that turned into a 7-day trip to Naples, Florida, where he met a successful businessman and his family. The second was a trip to the Hamptons with another businessman. Both experiences exposed him to new worlds and perspectives, shaping his future and leaving lasting relationships. These encounters serve as a reminder of the importance of generosity and the potential for transformative experiences that can come from unexpected opportunities.

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    My guest today is Dev Ittycheria. Dev is the CEO of MongoDB, the developer data platform with tens of thousands of customers in 100 different countries. He joined the company as CEO in 2014, taking it public in 2017, and is now approaching a decade of leading MongoDB to become a go-to choice for the most sophisticated organizations around the world. We discuss Dev’s philosophy for constructing an exceptional enterprise sales organization, why he feels a leader must be incredibly judgemental to drive excellence, and how he plans to guide MongoDB through another technological transition. Please enjoy this conversation with Dev Ittycheria. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:39) A CEO's Perspective Of The AI Revolution (00:05:50) The Evolution of Apps From Trivial to Transformative (00:08:12) MongoDB's Journey From Startup to AI Era (00:10:03) Building a Modern Database Company: MongoDB's Story (00:13:19) The Long-Term Vision for MongoDB  (00:15:51) Dev’s Formative Experiences as a Tech CEO (00:19:18) The Art of Enterprise Sales (00:25:28) The Development of Dev as a Leader (00:29:01) Getting the Most Out of Your Talent (00:33:17) Managing a Multi-Product, Multi-Channel Enterprise (00:37:29) Dev’s Recruiting Philosophy (00:43:12) The Role of Leadership and Mentorship in Career Growth (00:46:08) Dev’s Deepest Worry With MongoDB (00:49:35) Personal Investment Philosophy and Identifying Potential (00:53:52) The Art of Leadership: Accountability and Development (00:57:50) Learning from Legends: Andy Grove's Management Insights (01:02:54) The Power in MongoDB’s Business (01:06:13) Up Next for Dev and MongoDB (01:08:34) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done For Dev

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]

    Nico Wittenborn - Finding the Adjacent Possible - [Invest Like the Best, EP.372]
    My guest today is Nico Wittenborn. Nico is the founder of Adjacent, a venture firm that looks for what he describes as the “adjacent possible” for their next investment. Nico has zoned in on the consumer subscription market as his ideal candidate, making early investments in Calm App, Photoroom, and Oura Ring. Nico does virtually all steps of the investing process on his own as he believes this allows him to be as close to finding the truth as possible. We discuss sharpening your intuition, evaluating the subscription business model, and exploring the adjacent possible. Please enjoy this conversation with Nico Wittenborn.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for the investor. With traditional research vendors, the diligence process is slow, fragmented, and expensive. That leaves investors competing on how well they can aggregate data — not on their unique ability to analyze insights and make great investment decisions. Tegus offers an end-to-end platform with all the data you need to get up to speed on a company or market: up-to-the-minute financials, customizable models, management and culture checks, and, of course, our vast and growing library of expert call transcripts. Tegus is changing the world of expert research. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:30) Intuition in Investment Decisions (00:05:08) The Philosophy of Adjacency in Venture Capital (00:12:51) Exploring Consumer Subscription Models (00:18:16) Common Mistakes In Subscription Pricing (00:22:41) Errors in Product Roll-Out Strategy (00:28:50) The Sucess of BirdBuddy (00:33:45) What It Means To Be a Great Product (00:38:21) Solo Investing vs. Being Part of a Big Firm (00:43:12) Building On Your Own Experience As a Founder (00:44:49) The Rise of Individual Investors and Their Impact (00:50:52) The Strategic Advantage of Staying Small in Venture Capital (00:52:02) Deep Dive into Founder Questions and Consumer Subscription Insights (00:54:09) Leveraging AI and Technological Advances for Growth (00:59:13) Exploring Future Investments and Market Opportunities (01:05:13) Areas to Explore On The Value Curve For Consumer Subscription  (01:12:32) Advice For Those Interest In Nico’s Path  (01:20:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Nico

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]

    Mitch Rales: The Art of Compounding - [Art of Investing, Forever Episode]
    We are excited to share a great conversation with Mitch Rales, the co-founder of Danaher and one of the living legends in the world of business and investing. Consider that Danaher has annualized at over 21% for four decades, resulting in an 1800-times multiple on invested capital! This is Mitch's first long-form interview of any kind, and he covers his entire history and business philosophy. Interviewing Mitch are Paul Buser and Rick Buhrman, who host the Art of Investing podcast on the Colossus network. Please enjoy this comprehensive discussion with Mitch Rales. Listen to more Art of Investing. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Passthrough. If you've ever filled out a subscription document to invest in a fund or worked with LPs to fill out their docs to invest in your fund, you know what a nightmare this exercise can be. Passthrough finally solves this problem. They configure custom workflows for your electronic subscription agreements and KYC & AML requirements to shrink the time for your investors to complete their sub docs. It's the best way to manage a critical part of your relationship with your LPs and is simply a drastically better experience for both investing firms and LPs alike. To learn more, go to passthrough.com. This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Art of Investing is a property of Pine Grove Studios in collaboration with Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Art of Investing, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Art of Investing (00:05:32) - The Philosophy Behind Glenstone's Creation (00:12:57) - Benchmarking and Continuous Improvement: Lessons from Danaher and Glenstone (00:21:22) - The Influence of Mitch’s Father and Upbringing (00:28:43) - Transforming Danaher During The George Sherman (00:30:39) - Embracing Long-Term Vision and Patience (00:36:47) - The Role of Leadership in Navigating Change (00:42:21) - Danaher's Evolutionary Journey: From 1.0 to 4.0 (00:56:37) - Building a Culture of Internal Growth and External Innovation (00:58:42) - The Art of Successful Acquisitions and Integration Strategies (01:03:03) - Seeking Leadership Qualities and Business Traits for Long-Term Success (01:06:14) - The Journey from Personal Experience to Philanthropy (01:13:10) - Investment Philosophy: Concentration vs. Diversification (01:29:46) - Operational Expertise as a Catalyst for Company Growth (01:34:17) - Identifying and Supporting Talent in Business (01:43:02) - The Impact of Secular Trends on Long-Term Investments (01:49:53) - Revitalizing the Washington Commanders (01:57:36) - Engaging with Fans and Building a Winning Culture (02:05:16) - The Importance of Long-Term Vision

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]

    Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]
    My guest this week is Marc Lasry. Marc is a pioneer of distressed debt investing and the CEO of Avenue Capital Group, which he co-founded with his sister in 1995. Avenue manages $13 billion today. More recently, Marc and Avenue have become active investors in sport. He owned the Milwaukee Bucks when they won the NBA championship in 2021, and has since made investments in sports as diverse as sailing and bull-riding. In our discussion, we talk about his journey building a big investing firm, the evolution of distressed investing, and the opportunities in sport today. Marc shares some great stories throughout about travelling with President Clinton, winning the NBA championship, and raising his first fund. Please enjoy this great conversation with Marc Lasry. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best (00:03:40) Marc Lasry's Early Confidence and Competence (00:06:03) Distressed Credit Evolution and the Allure of Sports Investing (00:08:15) The Milwaukee Bucks: A Championship and Investment Success Story (00:14:54) Exploring New Frontiers: Bull Riding and Women's NCA (00:18:33) Venturing into Sailing with Larry Ellison's League (00:22:27) The Economics of Sports Team Ownership (00:25:19) The Vast Universe of Sports-Related Investment Opportunities (00:29:36) The Evolution of Distressed Investing (00:34:05 The Common Thread Through Marc’s Business Endeavors (00:40:24) Marc’s Most Memorable Investment (Not Including The Bucks) (00:43:40) The Dynamics of Working with Family in Business (00:45:32) Finding Happiness and Perspective Amid Financial Success (00:51:03) Diving into the World of NBA Owners (00:55:19) Exploring New Ventures: Sports, Real Estate, and Beyond (00:59:03) The Art of Deal-Making and Navigating Risks (01:06:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Marc

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