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    UNRWA & Hamas, the perfect affair - with Haviv Rettig Gur

    enJanuary 29, 2024

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    • UNRWA's Role in Palestinian Refugee Issue and Potential Anti-SemitismUNRWA's expanded definition of refugees and involvement in Hamas activities have raised concerns about perpetuating the Palestinian refugee issue and potentially aiding in anti-Semitic sentiment. ICJ's ruling and US funding pause highlight these issues.

      The UNRWA agency, which exists to care for Palestinian refugees from the period 1946 to 1948, has come under scrutiny for its involvement in perpetuating the Palestinian refugee issue and potentially aiding in anti-Semitic sentiment. The agency's definition of refugees includes not only the original refugees but also their descendants, which has led to a inflated number of refugees and a perpetuation of the issue. The ICJ's recent ruling against Israel, which relied on UNRWA reports, has brought attention to these concerns. Additionally, recent reports of UNRWA staff's involvement in Hamas activities and anti-Semitic statements have led to a pause in US funding for the agency. These issues raise questions about the role of UNRWA in the Palestinian refugee situation and its potential impact on perpetuating conflict rather than finding solutions.

    • Unique status of Palestinian refugees in UNPalestinian refugees have a unique status in the UN, with their refugee status passed down to descendants and a dedicated agency, UNRWA, providing for their welfare, unlike any other refugee group.

      The UN's treatment of Palestinian refugees is unique, as they are the only refugees whose status is passed down to their descendants, regardless of where they live. This is significant because there is no other case of this happening within the UN. Furthermore, Palestinian refugees have their own agency within the UN, UNRWA, which is responsible for their welfare. Notably, Hamas has been relieved of its duty to provide for its people in Gaza, as UNRWA funds and administers major social services there. This means that Hamas does not have to provide the funds for these services, and they come from taxpayers around the world instead. The situation in the UK regarding the Jewish community's feelings of fear and tension towards expressing their connections to Israel is a whole other level compared to the US, with a sense of imminent danger and the need to live in a hidden existence.

    • UNRWA's problematic presence in GazaUNRWA's ties to Hamas and unique definition of a refugee contribute to its controversial role in Gaza, allowing Hamas significant influence over its operations.

      The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), which was established in 1949 to provide relief to Palestinian refugees following the war of 1948, has faced funding cuts from nine countries, including the United States, due to the discovery that UNRWA staff took part in violent activities along the Gaza border. This revelation came from intelligence provided by Israel, which UNRWA had access to. However, UNRWA's problematic nature goes beyond this incident. It is deeply integrated into Hamas's rule in Gaza, with Hamas controlling the hiring process for UNRWA jobs. The organization's unique definition of a refugee and its massive financial contribution to the Gaza economy make it an attractive target for Hamas control. The bottom line is that UNRWA's continued presence in Gaza allows Hamas to exert significant influence over its operations, making it a contentious issue for both Israelis and Palestinians.

    • UNRWA's role in Gaza's aid system strengthens Hamas's ruleUNRWA's control over aid distribution in Gaza allows Hamas to maintain economic dependence and power

      UNRWA's role in Gaza is not just about providing aid, but it is essential for the functioning and stability of Hamas's rule. Hamas controls the aid distribution network in Gaza, and UNRWA, as the largest distributor on the ground, plays a pivotal role in this system. The vast amount of international aid flowing into Gaza makes Hamas's rule economically dependent on UNRWA. The tunnels discovered under Gaza, which Hamas used for war preparations, were built with the resources from the aid ecosystem. UNRWA's monopoly on aid distribution in Gaza makes it impossible for other organizations to compete, ensuring Hamas's continued control. The US, being a significant donor to Gaza, has contributed billions of dollars through USAID, and UNRWA is the primary organization responsible for distributing this aid. This complex web of aid dependency strengthens Hamas's grip on power in Gaza.

    • UNRWA's Unintended Consequences in GazaUNRWA's focus on aid instead of resettlement allows Hamas control over resources and perpetuates the refugee problem

      The UNRWA aid program, while intended to help the people of Gaza, has inadvertently given Hamas significant control over the distribution of aid and jobs. This control allows Hamas to divert resources towards building infrastructure for war and hiding behind civilians. The UNRWA employs over 13,000 aid workers in Gaza, and Hamas has the power to control who is hired and fired, effectively controlling UNRWA's operations on the ground. A more serious criticism of UNRWA is that it perpetuates the refugee problem by not focusing on resettlement, as is the priority for the UNHCR in other parts of the world. This lack of focus on resettlement keeps the refugee issue in Gaza perpetual and provides Hamas with a constant source of potential recruits and supporters.

    • UNRWA's unique definition keeps Palestinians in perpetual refugee statusUNRWA's rules keep Palestinians in a perpetual refugee status, denying them property rights and business opportunities, despite their current citizenship or generation.

      The UN Refugee Agency for Palestinians, UNRWA, stands out due to its unique definition of refugees, which applies only to Palestinians displaced during the 1948 conflict. Unlike the UNHCR, which aims to reduce the number of refugees and help them achieve citizenship in their host countries, UNRWA's rules keep Palestinians in a perpetual refugee status, regardless of their current citizenship or generation. This has led to a massive expansion of the Palestinian refugee population and perpetuated their suffering for generations. Additionally, Palestinians in Arab countries have faced denial of property rights and business opportunities due to their refugee status. These rules and practices, rather than alleviating Palestinian suffering, have instead perpetuated it.

    • The Palestinian refugee crisis is perpetuated by ideology and identity preservationDespite the end of Jewish refugee status post-1948, the Palestinian refugee crisis continues due to ideology and identity preservation, with UNRWA playing a role in its perpetuation

      The Israeli-Palestinian refugee situation is unique due to the ideological belief that Israel's founding in 1948 needs to be reversed. The Palestinian refugee experience differs significantly from that of Jewish refugees from Arab countries who were also displaced during the same time period. While no Jewish refugees remain today, the number of Palestinian refugees has continued to grow under various rulers, leading to a multi-generational refugee problem perpetuated by UNRWA. This perpetuation of refugee status is not only for the suffering it brings but also for the preservation of identity. The Jewish refugees, who were also victims of anti-Semitic violence and expulsion, have been integrated into their new countries and no longer hold refugee status. The lack of Arab introspection regarding the expulsion of Jews from their countries is also a significant factor in the ongoing Palestinian refugee crisis.

    • UNRWA's unique definition of Palestinian refugee status keeps the issue unresolvedUNRWA's special treatment of Palestinian refugees contrasts with the global approach to other crises, hindering resolution and integration

      The UNRWA definition of refugee status for Palestinians has kept the Palestinian issue unresolved for generations, allowing the Arab world to maintain their ideological resistance to Israel's existence. This unique definition contrasts with the global approach to other refugee crises, such as the Syrian one, where the UN's primary focus is on finding new homes and integrating refugees into other countries. The Syrian crisis serves as a real-life comparison, with over 6.8 million internally displaced people and 5.3 million registered refugees and asylum seekers. Unlike Palestinians, Syrian refugees do not have a dedicated agency like UNRWA, and the UN's mission is to help them find new homes and integrate them into other countries. This difference in treatment raises questions about the fairness and effectiveness of maintaining a special rule for Palestinian refugees. It's essential to consider the implications of such a rule on the Palestinians' lives and the broader geopolitical landscape.

    • UNRWA perpetuates Palestinian refugee problemUNRWA's definition and large budget reinforce the narrative that Palestinian issue can only be resolved through Israel's end, shaping Palestinian political culture and weakening their self-reliance

      The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) perpetuates the Palestinian refugee problem rather than solving it. The organization's definition of a refugee and its large budget have served to reinforce the narrative that the Palestinian issue can only be resolved through the end of Israel and the restoration of pre-1948 Palestine. This narrative shapes Palestinian political culture, particularly in the case of Hamas, which views the UN as responsible for protecting Palestinians and providing for their needs. This reliance on external aid has weakened the capacity of Palestinian political elites to take responsibility for their own well-being and economy. The UN's role in perpetuating this structure has had significant and detrimental effects on Palestinian political culture.

    • International aid's corrupting influence on Palestinian politicsThe international community's heavy funding of Palestinian elites has led to a lack of accountability and prioritization of personal strategies over the wellbeing of their people, particularly in the case of Hamas.

      The heavy reliance on international aid in the Palestinian territories has had a profoundly corrupting influence on their political culture. Elites are not accountable to their people as they are primarily funded by the international community. This dynamic is particularly dangerous in the case of Hamas, as leaders are able to evade responsibility for the wellbeing of Gazans and instead focus on their own strategies, even if it means the suffering or death of their own people. Israeli voices, such as those of Eynat Wilf and Hillel Neuer, have been raising awareness about this issue for years, but it has only recently gained attention due to the events of October 7th and the involvement of UNRWA staff in the conflict. The international community should have taken notice of these concerns long ago, and it's crucial that they do so now in order to help build a sustainable Palestinian economy and democracy.

    • A moment of change in the Middle East: questioning old structuresWorld leaders discuss new structures for Middle East, UNRWA's role in Gaza questioned, opportunity for a more serious and stabilizing force for Palestinians and Israelis

      The current crisis in the Middle East, specifically the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine, has created a moment of change where old structures and assumptions are being questioned. World leaders, including the US, Saudi Arabia, and European countries, are starting to discuss the "day after" and the possibility of building a new future for the region. UNRWA, the UN agency responsible for providing aid to Palestinian refugees, has been a long-standing presence in Gaza, with Israel supporting its role in distributing aid and maintaining stability. However, with the potential for new structures and a better future for Palestinians, UNRWA is being called into question. Israel, which has allowed UNRWA to function in Gaza due to the high costs and stability it provides, may not compromise on this going forward. This moment of change offers an opportunity to build a more serious and stabilizing force for both Palestinians and Israelis, leading to a better future for all involved.

    • Aviv Markus Confirms Israel Visit and Encourages FollowersIsraeli tech entrepreneur Aviv Markus to visit Israel, listeners invited to follow him on social media, recent London podcast recordings on Israel Briefing podcast of Jewish Chronicle.

      Aviv Markus, the Israeli tech entrepreneur, has confirmed his upcoming visit to Israel and encouraged listeners to follow him on his social media channels, including Haveveret Gur and The Times of Israel. Additionally, he mentioned that he and his co-host recently recorded live conversations in London, which can be heard on the Israel Briefing podcast of the Jewish Chronicle.

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