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    • The Influence of AI and Technology on Culture through Monster MoviesMovies like Gremlins, which use AI and technology as a source of chaos and disruption, continue to resonate with audiences and shape our cultural understanding of these advancements.

      Artificial intelligence and technology, specifically in the form of small monster movies or creature features, have significantly influenced our culture and continue to shape the future. The Gremlins, as depicted in the 1984 film, serve as an excellent example of this trend. These creatures, which are spawned from a cute, friendly Mogwai due to improper pet care, represent chaos embodied. Their primary goal is not to kill, but to make a mess and disrupt order. This concept, rooted in folklore and reminiscent of cartoon characters, instantly resonates with audiences due to its relatability and handcrafted puppet quality. The popularity of the Gremlins spawned numerous imitators, each offering something different yet staying true to the energy and essence of the original. As we move forward, it's clear that technology, particularly AI, will continue to be at the heart of our future, and the lessons we learn from movies like Gremlins will remain relevant.

    • Small monsters terrorizing humans in Gremlins, Ghoulies, and CrittersGremlins are mishandled pets, Ghoulies are summoned demons, and Critters are alien fugitives, each terrorizing humans differently in their unique horror films

      The horror movies Gremlins (1984) and Ghoulies (1984/85) share similarities in their small monsters terrorizing humans, but differ in their origins and themes. Gremlins are improperly cared-for pets, while Ghoulies are summoned demons. The marketing for Ghoulies, with its promise of monsters crawling up from the toilet, created a memorable and terrifying experience for young viewers, even if the actual film didn't deliver on that promise to the same extent. Critters (1986) introduces a new type of small monster, alien fugitives from an asteroid prison, who are purely driven by hunger and mischief. The poster art for each film effectively captures the unique energy and appeal of its respective monster. Overall, these movies showcase the creativity and variety in the small monster subgenre of horror films.

    • Monster Movies of the 1980s: Gremlins' LegacyThe 1980s brought an increase in monster movie production, inspired by Gremlins. Movies like Ghoulies, Critters, and Munchies emerged, offering both direct and unique twists on the formula, and were financially successful.

      The 1980s saw a surge in the production of monster movies, many of which drew inspiration from the success of films like Gremlins. These movies, collectively referred to as "direct" and "indirect gremlins," included franchises like Ghoulies, Critters, and Munchies. While some, like Ghoulies and Critters, were more direct rip-offs, others, like Munchies, offered unique twists on the formula. For instance, Munchies featured creatures that multiplied when chopped in half, a concept reminiscent of the hydra legend. The movies often featured similar themes, such as monsters crashing on Earth from space or being awakened from a long slumber. Despite varying degrees of originality, these films were financially successful and often featured similar visual styles and campy humor.

    • Mid-80s monsters: Straddling the line between horror and kids' entertainmentMonsters like Gremlins and Critters, with their blend of violence and cuteness, appealed to diverse audiences by bypassing age restrictions and becoming popular toys.

      The mid-1980s saw a phenomenon of tiny, mischievous monsters in American movies, with films like Gremlins and Critters straddling the line between horror for adults and entertainment for kids. These monsters, though violent and with adult themes, had elements of cuteness that might have made them appealing to younger audiences. The ambiguity of their intended audience and the ability of these films to bypass marketing and content restrictions could have contributed to their success. Additionally, the creators of these monsters, such as Tim Clark with Boglins, brought these creatures from the screen to children's hands as toys, further blurring the lines between horror and play. Overall, the appeal of these monsters may have come from their unique blend of danger and cuteness, allowing them to resonate with audiences of various ages.

    • A surge in popularity for puppetry and monster films in the mid-1980sThe mid-1980s brought a unique blend of imagination, fear, and nostalgia through puppetry and monster films, appealing to both children and adults with their tactile effects and original monsters.

      The mid-1980s saw a surge in popularity for films featuring puppetry and monster effects, which provided a unique experience for both children and adults. These films, while not quite Disney or hard horror, offered a sense of transgression for kids and acceptance for parents. The appeal may also lie in the fact that the monsters resembled toys and the tactile nature of the effects. The use of puppetry, stop motion, and other special effects contributed to the magic of these movies. Additionally, the monsters' original forms and limited cuddliness, as seen in ET, added to their allure. Overall, these films offered a blend of imagination, fear, and nostalgia that resonated with audiences during this time period.

    • A humorous sci-fi movie about alien creatures wreaking havoc on EarthDirected by Steven Herrick, Critters showcases his ability to create entertaining films, available for streaming or in a Blu-ray box set, and a mention of Astepro for allergy relief

      The movie "Critters" brings an exciting and humorous science fiction experience to audiences, with a group of alien creatures causing chaos on Earth, and a team of unlikely heroes working to stop them. The film, directed by Steven Herrick, marked his debut in the industry and showcased his ability to create feel-good and enjoyable films. Herrick's career progressed with projects like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and The Mighty Ducks, demonstrating his versatility in various genres. Critters is currently available for streaming, and viewers can also purchase a collection of the entire series in a Blu-ray box set. Additionally, during the podcast discussion, a mention was made of Astepro, a fast-acting nasal allergy spray that provides relief from symptoms within 30 minutes, making it a convenient option for those dealing with allergies.

    • A Rich History and Impressive Cast of 'Critters'The 1986 film 'Critters' boasts a notable director's early work and a talented cast, including Dee Wallace and M. Emmett Walsh, gaining critical acclaim and influencing the sci-fi and horror genres.

      "Critters" is a film with a rich history and an impressive cast. The discussion highlighted the background of its director, Mick Garris, who started his career as an editor and worked on various genre films, including "Critters." The film also features the acting talents of Dee Wallace, known for her roles in both feel-good and feel-bad films, and the legendary character actor, M. Emmett Walsh. Critics such as Roger Ebert appreciated the film, despite its genre classification, and it marked early credits for several writers and actors who went on to work on other notable projects. The "Critters" franchise, which includes four films, presents a challenge for choosing which one to feature due to its compelling cast and unique elements in each installment. Overall, "Critters" stands out as an entertaining and influential entry in the science fiction and horror genres.

    • A beloved '80s horror film featuring Dick Miller and a talented castThe '80s horror film 'Critters' showcased Dick Miller's standout performance and introduced notable talents like Scott Grimes, Billy Green Bush, and Don Keith Opper.

      "Critters" (1986) was a beloved '80s science-fiction horror film featuring a memorable ensemble cast. A standout performance was delivered by the late great character actor, Dick Miller, who cemented his status as a desired character actor with roles in films like "Blade Runner," "Blood Simple," and "Raising Arizona." The film also introduced notable child actor, Scott Grimes, as the brave and resourceful main character. Other notable performances came from Billy Green Bush as the traditional dad, Jay Brown, and Don Keith Opper as the eccentric, alcoholic geek, Charlie McFadden. Unfortunately, the underappreciated Billy Zane's role as April's boyfriend, Steve, was not fully explored. Overall, "Critters" showcased a talented cast and remains a fun and entertaining watch.

    • Versatile cast and creative team bring unique characters and creatures to lifeThe film's success lies in its talented cast and creative team, who breathe life into unique characters and creatures through their acting and design skills.

      The film "Mimic" features a talented and versatile cast, with notable performances by Terence Mann and Ethan Phillips. Mann plays both the human character Johnny Steel and the shape-shifting alien Ugh, demonstrating his acting range and screen presence. Phillips portrays the lazy and lovelorn police officer Jeff, adding humor to the film. Corey Burton provides the voices for the Crites, giving them personality despite their unconventional language. The Chiyoda Brothers' creature designs and effects add to the overall appeal of the film. It's a testament to the creative team's ability to bring unique characters and creatures to life on screen.

    • Movie 'Critters': A blend of comedy and horrorThe movie 'Critters' combined comedy and horror elements, using effective music and special effects to create a lasting impact on audiences, despite ethical concerns about the imprisonment of dangerous alien creatures.

      The movie "Critters" marketed as a comedy for kids, contained elements that were actually terrifying for some young viewers. The film's special effects were created by the same team behind "Gremlins," "Elf," and "Team America: World Police." The score was composed by David Newman, known for his work on various films, including comedies. The music played an essential role in establishing the film's feel-good themes. Despite some critics finding the sentimental music mushy, it effectively conveyed the sense of safety and comfort after the chaotic events in the movie. The film's plot begins with a spaceship carrying eight kreit (alien) prisoners, who are notorious for their destructive and eating habits. The ethics of transporting and imprisoning these creatures are questionable, but their dangerous nature is clear. The movie's blend of comedy and horror elements left a lasting impact on audiences, with some finding it entertaining, while others found it frightening.

    • Alien encounter sets intriguing stage for 'Critters'Opening scene effectively establishes tone with intriguing alien encounter and suit-up montage

      "Critters" opens with an intriguing and visually striking alien encounter, setting the stage for an intriguing glimpse into an unfamiliar world. The scene establishes the dynamic of exploring the alien world briefly before focusing on events on Earth. The suit-up montage for the alien bounty hunters is a common cinematic device, possibly influenced by leather-clad characters in movies and a fetishization of leather. The scene's effective use of close-ups and lack of revealing the hunters' faces until the end adds to the alien mystery. Overall, the opening scene effectively establishes the film's tone and sets the stage for the rest of the story.

    • A peaceful small-town family faces an alien invasionThe film 'Silent Night, Deadly Night' combines a cozy small-town setting with a terrifying alien invasion, showcasing a typical American family's courage and resourcefulness in the face of extraordinary circumstances

      "Silent Night, Deadly Night" is a unique blend of a cozy, idyllic small-town setting and a terrifying alien invasion. The Brown family, led by the self-sacrificing and fiercely protective mother Helen, is introduced during a peaceful morning scene where they are preparing for the day. However, their tranquil life is disrupted when extraterrestrial creatures, known as Crites, begin their attack. The father, Jay, is depicted as a down-to-earth, laid-back man who enjoys bowling and drinking coffee from a mason jar. Despite his seemingly carefree demeanor, he is concerned about his children's safety and well-being. The children, April and Brad, display sibling rivalry and rebellious behavior, but they also show courage and resourcefulness during the alien invasion. The film initially presents the Brown family as a typical, wholesome American family, but it subverts expectations by revealing their ability to fight back against the alien invaders. The use of everyday objects, such as a cast iron pan and a shotgun, adds to the sense of ordinary people facing extraordinary circumstances. Overall, "Silent Night, Deadly Night" effectively balances the contrasting elements of small-town life and alien invasion, resulting in an entertaining and suspenseful horror film.

    • The Chemex coffee maker's appeal to the family and bounty huntersThe Chemex coffee maker, with its simple design and unique filter, appealed to the family in the story, while extraterrestrial bounty hunters were intrigued by Earth's diverse culture, including its music.

      The Chemex coffee maker, a famous mid-century product design, fits well with the character of the family in the story despite being an unconventional coffee maker of the time. Its simple design and use of thick paper filters, which are believed to make coffee with a cleaner taste, add to its appeal. Meanwhile, in the sci-fi part of the discussion, the bounty hunters from outer space are intrigued by Earth's diverse culture, particularly its love for rock and roll music. They find Johnny Steel's "Power of the Night" an educational and enjoyable tune, reflecting the influence of music on Earthlings. Overall, both the family's use of a Chemex and the bounty hunters' fascination with Earth's music showcase unique aspects of their respective worlds.

    • Reverse footage effects create intriguing transformationsThe movie uses reverse footage to create memorable scenes and adds depth through distinct characters and realistic details.

      The movie uses reverse footage effects to create intriguing and memorable transformation sequences, such as a bounty hunter becoming a rock star's avatar and a house being reassembled. Additionally, characters like Brad and Billy Zane have distinct personalities and reactions, adding depth to the story. The attention to detail in depicting a believable kids' room and the realistic portrayal of awkward encounters between boyfriends and parents add to the movie's charm. The film effectively balances action and character development, creating an engaging and entertaining experience.

    • Unexpected peril and gore in a PG-13 rated movieThe family in 'Critters' faces intense attacks from alien creatures, maintaining unity while dealing with unexpected deaths and gruesome attacks in a PG-13 rated film

      "Critters" is a PG-13 rated movie filled with unexpected peril and gore, as evidenced by the attack on Brad's father in the basement and the gruesome death of Billy Zane in the barn. Despite the violence, the film maintains a sweet and unexpected sense of unity as the family bands together to investigate and combat the alien creatures. The creatures themselves are a unique blend of Sonic the Hedgehog and a mythic porcupine, capable of firing quills and rolling like tumbleweeds. Despite the intensity of the attacks, the family manages to rescue the father and later unsuccessfully tries to protect Billy Zane, leading to his tragic demise. The movie's violence is often poorly lit and lacks the graphic detail of a typical R-rated film, but the unexpected deaths and intense attacks add to the overall sense of danger and unease.

    • Unexpected twists and turns in lifeStay adaptable and connected to what matters most, as seen in the story of Brad and the importance of community, culture, and financial growth.

      The unexpected can lead to surprising outcomes, as seen in the story where Brad saves the day by convincing a crate to explode in a comedic manner, instead of causing destruction as anticipated. Another key takeaway is the importance of staying connected to one's community and culture, as emphasized by the Michigan Chronicle Digital Daily. Additionally, the all new Hyundai Santa Fe offers the flexibility and capability to embark on unexpected adventures, making every journey a joyful experience. Navy Federal Credit Union's commitment to helping its members grow and flourish financially is another important message conveyed in this episode. Overall, the story highlights the unexpected twists and turns that life can bring, and the importance of staying adaptable and connected to what matters most.

    • Bounty hunters encounter sentient CritesThe Thing cleverly redefines monstrous creatures as sentient beings, requiring a different approach to defeat them.

      "The Thing" masterfully blends familiar sci-fi elements with a unique narrative, as seen in the scene where bounty hunters discover the Crites on a farm. The Crites, despite their destructive nature, display sentience and communication through subtitles. One notable instance is when they grow in size, leading to a final showdown between Brad and the Crites, resulting in their defeat and the family's rescue. Despite the presence of spiteful actions throughout the film, all wounds are healed by the end, and the Crites are portrayed as dangerous, hateful beings that must be dealt with promptly. The film effectively subverts initial impressions of the Crites as mindless eating machines.

    • Gromlins: More Than Just Mindless MonstersThe Gromlins from 'Gremlins' movies are known for their ability to work machines and communicate, making them cunning and mischievous adversaries. Despite their size, their scheming nature adds to their appeal as entertaining creature features.

      The Gromlin creatures from the "Gremlins" movies, including "Critters," stand out as more than just mindless monsters due to their ability to work machines and communicate with each other, often with malevolent intentions. These creatures have plans and schemes, making them cunning and mischievous adversaries. Despite their lack of size and pure visual threat, their scheming nature adds to their appeal as entertaining and fun creature features. If you're looking for a harmless and enjoyable creature movie, "Critters 1" is a recommended choice. Overall, the Gromlins subgenre thrives on the idea of these little devils causing chaos and mischief in the world.

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    About This Episode

    In this episode, we pay homage to the movie Gremlins, the Critters movie, and any other movie that could be labeled as a “Critter Horror Movie.” One where a large horde of small creatures wreaks havoc on a small community.

    Our familiarity with this genre was mostly from Gremlins, so this episode basically becomes a parody of that, but hey, that doesn’t sound like a bad thing, does it…?

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    Time Codes
    Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:26

    Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 10:04

    Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 16:30

    Start of show: 23:52

    Improv Game - Death in a Minute:25:46

    Improv Game - Pardon: 27:46

    Improv Game - Blind Line: 36;45

    Improv Game - Newsroom: 50:58

    Improv Game - Cutting Room:  1:01:22

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    Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

    Avish Parashar: All right, we're not going to spend five minutes talking about the tropes commonalities and cliches of this genre i'm setting a timer for five minutes and our time.


    Michael Worth: started a duck isn't it.


    It is a duck timer yes.


    Avish Parashar: i'll change it for next time, if I remember.


    Avish Parashar: Right Mike let's talk critter horror um, what do you what comes to mind.


    Michael Worth: i'm gonna i'm gonna go in the interest of like cuz he can play the whole you could go either way with like it's just like tremors i'm going to go with.


    Michael Worth: These critters are are known by somebody so the trope is usually first of all it's usually an everyday suburban and this kind of movies and everyday suburban family or things like that.


    Michael Worth: Usually it's in the cities there's rarely like kind of like a desolate countryside horror kind of thing um and usually.


    Michael Worth: They discover these creatures as kind of a monkey's paw like it's usually kind of given to them, or they encountered it or they find it and they they decide to take it in, so the creatures are not initially malevolent.


    Michael Worth: yeah, at least with the gremlins is not, and I think.


    Avish Parashar: yeah and that's and you know my I was realizing as we're prepping for this episode that my familiarity with the genre isn't so broad I so a lot of my stuff is gonna be there's gonna be more of a gremlins almost for me then abroad critters Omar in general.


    Michael Worth: Fine, because we can do gremlins on March, then we can do this again next year and do like a shadow Mars.


    Avish Parashar: That maybe the only child in the history of.


    Michael Worth: We will go down in history.


    Michael Worth: gremlins, then I love that idea there's very much a monkey's paw thing right where it's like hey you can get this, but you gotta watch out there's.


    Avish Parashar: A yeah yeah so there's a yeah they like two versions it's not inherently bad, I would say, you know, with some of the sample movies, for me, when I think critter Har I think small and numerous.


    Avish Parashar: So not like not like tremors where it's you know.


    Avish Parashar: On huge giant like dunes and worms or whatever.


    Avish Parashar: So yeah I think a bunch of small.


    Avish Parashar: And then, they also and I think this is across genres there's a number of sort of like a slasher movie right there's a number of.


    Avish Parashar: Creative or random ways people die, you know, like you said about goolies like Dudes on a toilet and gets you know something comes up and goes into but like that's.


    Michael Worth: Absolutely.


    Avish Parashar: I don't that's creative or not, but you know it's like random.


    Michael Worth: Right now there's what happens is, if you want to go this route.


    Michael Worth: The creature start off very cute Okay, and even if they don't morph into something gross like I haven't seen critters but, like you know the kitchen there's somehow designed to look both scary and cute, which is actually a pretty impressive.


    Michael Worth: SF s thing, because if you look at spike from gremlins those guys are still actually kind of cute and their little green lizard the last starfighter kind of way, obviously the good guy he would say, mostly but not him the.


    Avish Parashar: model I want a mob was a.


    Avish Parashar: gizmo was the.


    Michael Worth: gizmo yeah yeah yeah I mean obviously he's adorable you know, setting the other, but when.


    Avish Parashar: I gotta sell the merge baby.


    Michael Worth: Oh, my God, yes, oh, by the way, this is a doctor, this is the era of massive product placement so.


    Michael Worth: diet Pepsi everyone's eating m&ms right.


    Avish Parashar: yeah.


    Michael Worth: We need to put that in there.


    Avish Parashar: I would say your hero is usually an ordinary person it's not like a yes and your law enforcement military is usually either just useless or hindrance.


    Michael Worth: Right right this they're definitely incompetent God poor homie he's like to watch these movies notice that the police force look so grossly incompetent.


    Michael Worth: How do they solve the infestation because honestly this act three well get that free but basically there's an it becomes an infestation the reason why there's so many little critters is because there's also lots of creative ways to kill the critters and that's.


    Avish Parashar: All yeah so creative ways to kill the critters.


    Michael Worth: Oh yeah like like silly ways like sticking them in the microwave.


    Avish Parashar: yeah lady putting them in a blender.


    Michael Worth: I was great yeah.


    Avish Parashar: yeah it's so yeah I think they either have some exploitable weakness, you know water for the gremlins yeah and they kind of learned them in other sunlight.


    Avish Parashar: Water wasn't a lot of sunlight would kill them right no.


    Avish Parashar: or there's some like elaborate like they're drawn to something so it's like oh they're drawn to you know cat meowing so let's put all these cats in the school gym and learn them all there and blow them.


    Michael Worth: All yeah there's usually some kind of weakness or trade about them, that makes them either destroy or gathering.


    Michael Worth: Even though these creatures either are generated by a magic or super science they're killed with good old fashioned 80s action destruction like there's no like Oh, we have to create a summoning circle and like send them back the portal it's.


    Michael Worth: Like yes that's true yeah.


    Michael Worth: put them in the gym and blow them up, or like you know drop move on to a boat and then like synced about you know oh and.


    Michael Worth: This is a big trope because remember these kind of movies low budgets you got to have a set piece, the final destruction of all the creatures is definitely a Hollywood explosion kind of thing it's like.


    Michael Worth: All right, let's say, for example, water kills the Lord them onto a boat, instead of being like well just think about the trip ITO it's like no will nuke the boat with a sidewinder missed.


    Michael Worth: The boat.


    Michael Worth: yeah.


    Michael Worth: And then you know.


    Avish Parashar: there's a Doc all right, that is our five minutes, I think we have a good list of tropes and discussion points.


    Michael Worth: yeah this this This really is going to turn into no master gremlins I have no problem with that.


    Avish Parashar: yeah that's fine that's what we do here.


    Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)

    Avish Parashar: That brings us to.


    Avish Parashar: Alright now we're going to hash out a high level outline for our story.


    Avish Parashar: Disclosure this being improv comedy we may veer from this outline, but this is how we're going to start we're going to afford act structure which is similar to the three act we just split Act two up into two parts, because it makes it a little easier for this kind of storytelling.


    Avish Parashar: show our show.


    Michael Worth: You, the.


    Avish Parashar: five minute timer starts now.


    Michael Worth: All right, no one's pretty easy at one we're going to do to the main character own and it's usually always a main character, plus a girlfriend or a boyfriend you know what maybe even a family, so when it comes to the.


    Avish Parashar: main character, or like the love interest, so they may not be together at the beginning, but through this trauma they come together.


    Michael Worth: yeah exactly and that's one they encounter.


    Michael Worth: The critter or critters.


    Michael Worth: And there's usually kind of a.


    Michael Worth: mysterious figure, this is the call to adventure crossing the threshold so.


    Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say that, like a lot of times it's all establishment, like the.


    Avish Parashar: The the the critters don't really become evil or start doing bad stuff till the end of act.


    Avish Parashar: To the end of that going right like it wasn't like the end of act, one that that they got fed after midnight and turn evil and gremlins.


    Michael Worth: Right so so at the end of act one so, by the way in act one you also get the warnings.


    Avish Parashar: The did the warning yes.


    Michael Worth: Now, at the end of act one if we get really granular one warning is broken and that starts the process of transformation because, because then an act to whatever other warnings are broken are broken and then then act, three and four becomes the scramble you know what I mean.


    Michael Worth: Okay, it kind of makes sense.


    Avish Parashar: Warnings in one gets broken the kind of.


    Avish Parashar: starts to slide.


    Michael Worth: yeah because that's gonna be that's gonna be the end of the crossing the threshold where you're like oh I accidentally did this, and now the creatures are doing this, so I would say at the end of act one one warning will be broken.


    Avish Parashar: Alright, so then into Act two, and this is where i'm.


    Avish Parashar: The bad stuff starts to happen yep.


    Michael Worth: But it's gonna be a slow burn that we can't we can't go too crazy enact too, because you got to save all the good stuff rack three so like it's just like little things you know and just mattel's it's got to be darkly comic.


    which of course yeah.


    Michael Worth: Doc and comic is our speciality.


    Avish Parashar: yeah and I would say here is where.


    Avish Parashar: it's more mischief than outright violence.


    Avish Parashar: And if there is like violence or death it's with like offside character.


    Avish Parashar: So, like the main characters aren't even aware that there's just much evil going on.


    Michael Worth: Right or I could really see us going towards like animals and pets, you know not like omen style, but like being like you know oh my God all the all the journals are dead, you know.


    Avish Parashar: yeah yeah.


    Avish Parashar: we're gonna hit real dark real fast.


    Michael Worth: yeah now this point uh This is where the police get involved and they're incompetent bumbling as a matter as a matter of fact yeah It might not even please animal control some of that.


    Avish Parashar: Some authority start to.


    Avish Parashar: realize something's going on.


    Michael Worth: Now here is.


    Avish Parashar: I would say, oh real quick, I would say also that, like a lot of times in these movies.


    Avish Parashar: With the authority does makes the situation far worse, you know.


    Avish Parashar: it's like you're never supposed to.


    Avish Parashar: You know, let them into this one room, but then the animal control comes in, or you can have it legal animal takes them and it puts them in that room and then.


    Michael Worth: Yes, you just you just we're going to do that I know we're kind of pre writing a bit, but i'm curious our podcast because I was about to say.


    Michael Worth: When the second warning is broken and the animals in the critical full Feral Is it the animals that do it themselves like spiked it or is it the fault and let's go let's try it let's see if we can make the fault of.


    Avish Parashar: can be either use a combination, like the incompetent authorities set up the ability for the critters to do that, and then the critters take advantage of it, and then, so it kind of like both.


    Michael Worth: yeah yeah.


    Avish Parashar: Alright, then act three is just mayhem.


    Michael Worth: mayhem.


    Avish Parashar: This is we're going to get the both the creative ways the critters do bad things and also the creative ways the critters die.


    Michael Worth: Yes, exactly doesn't all have to be murder, it can be just like social breakdown, you know what I mean like but yeah definitely like but truly naughty to evil right that's the spectrum we're dealing with right now we're dealing with the naughty to evil beyond mischievous right.


    Avish Parashar: yeah and then a.


    Michael Worth: This point that the protagonists needs to find out the weakness of the critter.


    Avish Parashar: Right, I was about to say they kind of start learning.


    Avish Parashar: What they need to yeah and usually something happens that hits close to home, like either they're attacked of the girlfriends or boyfriends attack or like a family member so like.


    Avish Parashar: Something hits close to home up so stakes.


    Michael Worth: Right and they come they find out the weakness and then they come up with a plan to defeat the creatures and at forest and putting the plan into action.


    Avish Parashar: yeah and I think the coming up with a plan could add to be the end of act three of beginning back for but somewhere in there, they figured out.


    Avish Parashar: Like a lot of times, maybe at the end of act three they figure out what the plan is of the critters are like Oh, we just saw there we may have but oh my God they're trying to you know, make the nuclear plant meltdown or something.


    Michael Worth: Oh yeah yeah exactly exactly um and then act for is them putting the plan to place which.


    Michael Worth: almost always involves.


    Michael Worth: A giant genocidal detonation.


    Avish Parashar: You don't mean yeah it's like how are we going to get them all in this one place a lot of times like one of the heroes, one of the protagonist is like the bait or something and then they create this plan and get them all together and then and then often there's you know.


    Avish Parashar: The one like the main one that didn't die in the big explosion and then there's the final like one on one.


    Michael Worth: Oh yeah there's a false there's a false ending with like the final.


    Michael Worth: Final one on one with with head bad guy.


    Avish Parashar: yeah Oh, and one thing we didn't ask is, are we opening with a prologue or a movie trailer.


    Michael Worth: Well that's what i'm section right uh let me think about that let's look let's let's let's cue Leah the The pre lay and then we'll figure it out cuz I gotta think for about a minute on that.


    Avish Parashar: Alright, so that brings us to the end of our outline section.


    Avish Parashar: that's brings us doing.