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    Will Saletan: All for the Fan Service

    en-usJuly 21, 2023

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    • Trump's escalating attacks on prosecutors and criminal justice system ahead of potential indictmentFormer President Trump's threats and veiled messages about violence have reached a new level of intensity as he faces potential indictment for his role in the January 6th Capitol attack. His behavior is concerning and could complicate the Republican nomination process in 2024.

      Former President Donald Trump's threats and escalating attacks on the prosecutors and the criminal justice system ahead of a potential indictment for his role in the January 6th Capitol attack have reached a new level of intensity. Trump has been making veiled threats about what would happen if he is arrested or jailed, even going as far as posting a message on Truth Social that included a threat of violence. The context of this message, which was originally from 2020, is not ambiguous in the current context. Trump's behavior is concerning, as he seems to be inciting his supporters and escalating tensions. The trial date for the Mar-a-Lago document case has been set for May 20, 2024, which could put the Republican nomination process in an awkward position if Trump is still a contender at that point. The potential scenarios of Trump's nomination status at that time make the situation even more complex. Trump's behavior is reminiscent of his disbelief over losing the 2020 election, and his past polling numbers, and his statements are a reminder of the power of words and their potential consequences.

    • Politics driven by fan service and antagonismPoliticians cater to their base with sensational hearings and outrageous actions to maintain relevance, damaging public image but necessary for engagement.

      Today's political landscape is driven by fan service and antagonism towards the opposition. Politicians, regardless of party affiliation, cater to their base with sensational hearings and outrageous actions to maintain relevance and attract attention. This behavior, while potentially damaging to their public image, is seen as necessary to keep their supporters engaged. The Monmouth poll mentioned earlier might not accurately predict election outcomes, but it does reflect the growing divide and anger within the political sphere. These actions, whether fueled by genuine belief or desperation for attention, are shaping the political discourse and widening the gap between opposing sides.

    • Third-party candidates could impact Trump's electoral college chancesMonmouth University poll indicates Biden leads Trump by 7 points, Trump's net favorability is negative 27 points, third-party candidates could draw significant votes, Trump's floor might be as low as 28%, crucial for Trump to win over more voters

      The Monmouth University poll suggests that third-party candidates, specifically Manchin Huntsman, could potentially draw significant votes away from Donald Trump, potentially leading to his electoral college defeat. The poll shows that Biden leads Trump by 7 points in a head-to-head contest, and that Biden's approval rating is significantly negative. When a third-party ticket is introduced without a name, it receives 30% of the votes, but when a name is attached, the support drops to 16%. Trump's net favorability is negative 27 points, with only 36% of Americans approving of him. These numbers suggest that Trump's floor might be as low as 28%, indicating that there are a lot of persuadable voters who might not want to vote for Biden but also cannot support Trump. The key implication is that Trump's ceiling might be in the low forties, making it crucial for him to win over more voters to secure his re-election.

    • Swing states will decide US presidential electionFocus on swing voters and building consensus, avoid alienating people and inciting fear. Be cautious about delegitimizing constitutional institutions like the US Supreme Court.

      The upcoming US presidential election will likely be decided in a few key swing states, such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia. The hatred towards Joe Biden may not be as intense as it was towards Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, but the election outcome could still be influenced by a small number of voters in these states. It's crucial for politicians to focus on reaching out to swing voters and building consensus instead of alienating people and inciting fear. Another significant issue discussed was the potential danger of delegitimizing constitutional institutions, including the US Supreme Court. While there may be legitimate concerns and disagreements with the court's decisions, undermining its credibility could have severe consequences, especially with Trump's history of attacking institutions. It's essential to be cautious about this approach and instead work towards finding common ground and strengthening the foundations of American democracy.

    • Defending the Integrity of American Institutions: The Role of the CourtsThe courts play a vital role in checking executive power and upholding democratic norms. Undermining their legitimacy could embolden politicians to disregard rulings and harm the democratic process.

      The Bulwark, as an institution, prioritizes defending the integrity of American institutions, including the courts, even when there are disagreements about their actions or legitimacy. The courts serve as a crucial check against runaway executive power and have demonstrated their importance in upholding democratic norms, as seen in the 2020 election. The potential consequences of a court lacking legitimacy in the eyes of the public could embolden politicians like Donald Trump to disregard court rulings, further eroding the democratic process. It's essential to recognize the diversity within conservative ideologies and understand that not all conservatives, including judges, are one-dimensional. The judicial philosophy of these judges, while potentially contentious, separates them from their political affiliations and allows them to rule impartially.

    • Understanding the principles behind recent Supreme Court decisionsRecent Supreme Court decisions are based on established legal principles, not just politics. They address power checks and balances, preventing potential abuse.

      The recent Supreme Court decisions, despite being labeled as "conservative" or "MAGA" by some, are based on intellectual and legal principles that have been established for decades. These decisions are not simply political, but rather the result of serious debates and arguments. For instance, the student loan case is not just about student loan relief, but also about limiting the power of the executive branch and preventing potential abuse of power. The focus should be on understanding the underlying principles and potential consequences, rather than solely on the bottom line of each ruling. The importance of this lies in recognizing the importance of checks and balances to prevent the misuse of power, regardless of who holds it.

    • Supreme Court's Surprising Stance on Individual FreedomsThe Supreme Court has been unexpectedly protective of individual rights, but its decision on Roe v. Wade has sparked controversy and debate on judicial restraint. Ron DeSantis' campaign faces internal struggles and criticism for focusing on Bud Light investigation instead of campaign issues.

      The Supreme Court, despite its conservative reputation, has shown a surprising inclination towards upholding individual freedoms in areas like religious freedom and free speech. However, the Court's decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which overturned Roe v. Wade, has been a contentious issue, with some arguing it violates the principle of judicial restraint. Meanwhile, in the political sphere, Ron DeSantis' presidential campaign is reportedly undergoing a reboot, with a shift towards more retail politics and a national focus, as well as an investigation into Bud Light over a controversial ad. Morale within the campaign is described as terrible, with staffers being fired and donors pushing for change. DeSantis' recent focus on investigating Bud Light has been criticized as a distraction from his campaign.

    • DeSantis' approach to politics goes against traditional Republican valuesDeSantis' actions against private companies and potential government overreach raise concerns about free speech and limited government

      Ron DeSantis' approach to politics, specifically his repeated attempts to penalize private companies for not aligning with his views, goes against traditional Republican values of limited government and free markets. His actions, such as threatening lawsuits against Anheuser Busch and Disney, set a dangerous precedent for government interference in private businesses' affairs. This is a departure from the Republican Party's historical stance and raises concerns about the potential for government overreach and the suppression of free speech. Additionally, DeSantis' continued engagement with Twitter and his unwillingness to confront Donald Trump are seen as weaknesses in his campaign strategy.

    • Concerns over DeSantis' rebranding and interview performanceDeSantis' struggles to connect with people, stand up to challenges, and understand history raise doubts about his ability to effectively lead and represent the country as a presidential candidate.

      Ron DeSantis' attempts to rebrand himself as a more approachable candidate and his perceived weakness in interviews are major concerns for his presidential campaign. DeSantis' inability to connect with people and his lack of strength in standing up to Trump and other challenges undermine his credibility as a potential president. Additionally, the controversy surrounding Florida's new educational standards, which downplay the negative aspects of slavery and suggest that slaves developed useful skills, has raised concerns about DeSantis' understanding of history and sensitivity to marginalized communities. These issues, combined with the reboot of his campaign strategy, cast doubt on DeSantis' ability to effectively lead and represent the country.

    • Trump's divisive comments on talk radioDespite a federal judge ruling, Trump's divisive words and threats of violence continue to impact society, highlighting the importance of accountability for actions and words.

      Former President Donald Trump's comments on a talk radio show in Iowa, where he incorrectly assumed two teenagers who murdered their Spanish teacher were Latin American immigrants, highlights his divisive and misinformed worldview. Despite the ongoing debate about whether to pay attention to Trump or not, his words carry weight and impact. In the same interview, Trump also threatened violence if he is held accountable for his actions. Meanwhile, a federal judge ruled in the E. Jean Carroll case that Trump was not found to have raped her under New York law, but that doesn't negate the fact that many people believe he committed the crime. These incidents underscore the importance of holding Trump accountable for his actions and words, as they have significant consequences. Trump's continued spread of misinformation and threats of violence only serve to further divide and harm our society.

    • Judge rules Trump's actions equal rape under NY lawThe Republican Party's continued support of Trump despite his rape allegations sets a dangerous precedent and sends a message that criminal behavior is acceptable for those in power.

      A federal judge has ruled that Donald Trump's actions, as determined by a jury, constitute rape under New York law. This finding, while significant, was not given the attention it warranted in the larger political context. The normal political response to such a finding would be to distance oneself from the individual involved. However, the Republican Party's response has been to continue supporting Trump despite his numerous scandals and allegations of criminal behavior. This raises concerns about the party's values and priorities, and the potential consequences of continuing to support such a figure. The lack of outrage or accountability for Trump's actions sets a dangerous precedent and sends a message that criminal behavior is acceptable, especially for those in positions of power.

    • Misunderstanding of censorshipThe overuse of the term censorship, particularly on the right, has led to a loss of perspective on its true meaning. It's important to distinguish between calling out false or harmful speech and actual censorship.

      The discourse around censorship has become distorted and overused, particularly on the right, leading to a loss of perspective on what it truly means. During a recent congressional hearing featuring RFK, there were numerous claims of censorship despite the fact that the witnesses were testifying live on TV. This "snowflakery" around censorship is a problem and a shift from the victim culture previously associated with the left. It's essential to remember that simply labeling something as a conspiracy theory or calling out dangerous or harmful speech does not equate to censorship. Instead, we should focus on restoring the idea of openly calling out false or harmful statements, rather than claiming to be silenced.

    • Censorship in Congressional Hearings and Upcoming Movies: 'Oppenheimer' and 'Barbie'A Democratic congresswoman accused a Republican representative of censorship during a hearing, sparking a discussion on movie preferences and the importance of reading source material before seeing adaptations. The hosts also previewed an upcoming podcast episode on Lindsey Graham's political transformation.

      During a recent podcast discussion, the topic of censorship in congressional hearings and the upcoming release of movies, specifically "Oppenheimer" and "Barbie," were discussed. A Democratic congresswoman accused a Republican representative, Jim Jordan, of censorship. The hosts then discussed their plans to see the movies and the merits of each. One host expressed his preference for "Oppenheimer" based on reviews, while the other was considering both films. They also discussed the importance of reading the source material before seeing the movie adaptation. The conversation then shifted to the upcoming episode of the podcast series on Lindsey Graham and his transformation from criticizing Donald Trump to becoming a zealot in his hatred of Democrats, allowing Republicans to support Trump's abuses of power. The hosts expressed their excitement for the upcoming episode and encouraged listeners to check it out. Overall, the discussion touched on topics of censorship, movie preferences, and political analysis.

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