The Immeasurable Podcast

The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Ojai 1980 - 2: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of Time

Series: The Ending of Time

Time is the enemy of man.

Is there a beginning which is not enmeshed in time?

We said nothingness is everything and so it is total energy. It is undiluted pure, uncorrupted energy. Is there something beyond that?

Has man ever been free from the ‘I’?

That emptiness can only exist when there is death of the particular.

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Welcome to The Immeasurable  Podcast, this episode is a talk by Cory Fisher given during the annual May Gathering in 2019. Cory Fisher has been involved with the Krishnamurti Foundation of America since 2013, when he was among the first generations of Residential Students/Scholars at the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California. He now serves as the Director of Publications and Archives at the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. 

His talk Freedom from the Known: the Krishnamurti Perspective features a conversation between Krishnamurti and theoretical physicist David Bohm as well as a dialogue between Krishnamurti and Alaine Naudé. In this talk, Cory delves into what Krishnamurti means by “freedom from the known”,  exploring Krishnamurti’s themes around consciousness, time, freedom, and knowledge. I hope you enjoy it.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Ojai 1980 - 1: The Roots of Psychological Conflict

Series: The Ending of Time

Has humanity taken a wrong turn?

What is the root of this tremendous inward conflict of humanity?

When I am trying to become something it is a constant battle.

Can the brain itself see that it is caught in time and as long as it is moving in that direction conflict is eternal, endless?

Can the mind realize, resolve a psychological problem immediately?

Has mankind journeyed through millennia to come to this: that I am nothing and therefore I am everything and all energy?

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Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
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Welcome back to another season of the Immeasurable Podcast. You’re listening to an interview with Lobsang Tenzin, also known as the fifth Samdhong Rinpoche. He is a Tibetan Buddhist teacher and philosopher who has lived in Dharamsala, India since 1959 when he fled Tibet. He is the spiritual advisor to the Dalai Lama. In addition, he served as the Prime Minister of the cabinet of the Central Tibetan Administration and was the director of the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies in Varanasi, India. He also served as a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation in India for several decades. In this interview, Rinpoche discusses his understanding of Krishnamurti's teachings and Buddhist teachings, as well as Krishnamurti's role as a “teacher.” 

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This episode is a 1980’s interview with Laura Huxley. Laura was a musician, author, psychotherapist, and lecturer who met Krishnamurti at the home of yoga instructor, Vanda Scaravelli. She was married to author and philosopher Aldous Huxley, who was a close friend of Krishnamurti. Laura Huxley is known for a discussion she had with Krishnamurti in which he said that “people who try to help others are a curse.” She talks about that exchange in this interview, and you may find what Krishnamurti has to say about it to be both surprising and interesting. Huxley is interviewed by Michael Mendizza and Leah has re-narrated his questions for better audio quality. We hope you enjoy it. 

J. Krishnamurti  — Saanen 1977 - Extract from Public Discussion 2


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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a talk from a previous Annual May Gathering. It's called “Freedom From Conditioning" by Professor Krishna.

Professor Krishna was born in Chennai (south India) but grew up in Indore (central India) where his parents were educationists. He first met and heard Krishnamurti in 1957-58 and continued to listen to Krishnamurti during his visits to the education center in Rajghat, Varanasi. He was a Professor of Physics at the Banaras Hindu University when in 1985 Krishnamurti asked him to take charge of the Rajghat Education Centre as its Rector and Principal of the Rajghat Besant School. He worked in this capacity until 2003 and has since been in charge of the Krishnamurti Study Centre at Rajghat. He has lectured all over the world on Krishnamurti’s teachings, science, society, and education. In 2015 he wrote a memoir entitled, A Jewel on a Silver Platter: Remembering J.Krishnamurti

• The first requirement to learning, according to Krishnamurti (00:53) 
• What is conditioning? What do we mean by freedom from conditioning? (2:55)
• Is all conditioning a problem? (6:30)
• What do negative emotions mean?  (9:32)
• Why do we believe in illusions? (10:04)
• When the false ends (11:50)
• What would it mean to examine oneself? (12:25)
• Why is it important to examine the self? (13:40)
• Can thought perceive what is true? (17:12)
• Professor Krishna on belief, truth, and illusion (23:34)
• The root problem of division among human beings (25:32)
• The ego (28:00)
• Watching consciousness in the mirror of relationship (29:30)
• The role thought plays in the quest for truth (30:10)
• Does one eliminate conditioning? (34:45)
• What is one seeking? (39:10)
• Why the management of ego doesn't solve any problem (42:43)
• Perception is real action (45:20)

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J. Krishnamurti  — Brockwood Park 1981 – Public Talk 3 – What Happens if I Don't End all the Content of my Consciousness?

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Evelyne Blau (narrated by Leah Luong) interviews Alan Hooker, a former cook for Krishnamurti. The late restauranteur moved to Ojai in 1949 because of his interest in the teachings, and to help prepare food for the Ojai campus. He was also a former trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. He is asked a series of questions about his experience with Krishnamurti in this 1987 interview. Leah has re-narrated Evelyne’s questions for better audio clarity. We hope you enjoy it.

Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast.

This episode centers around the topic, What Prevents Change?

J. Krishnamurti with David Bohm, Asit Chandmal, and P. Krishna. - Brockwood Park 1977

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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is a recording from this year’s Online May Gathering, a talk given by David Moody called “The Paradox of Change," followed by a Q&A with Karen Hesli, Nandini Patnaik, and David Moody. 

 David Edmund Moody, Ph.D., is the author of three books about Krishnamurti. His most recent book is Krishnamurti in America: New Perspectives on the Man and his Message. This book represents a full-scale biography of Krishnamurti’s life, with special attention to the events in America that have not been covered well in previous biographies.

Moody was the first teacher hired when Krishnamurti founded the Oak Grove School in Ojai, California, in 1975.  He subsequently served as educational director of the school, and as director, the position he held at the time of Krishnamurti’s death in 1986.  He later took his Ph.D. in science education (UCLA, 1991) with a focus on student misconceptions in the study of biological evolution.

• Krishnamurti's view on how we deal with problems (3:38)
• Seeing the danger of thought (4:06)
• What did Krishnamurti have to say about time? (5:23) 
• Did humanity take a wrong turn? (6:28)
• What is the "ending of time?" (8:00)
• Why the paradox of change goes right into the heart of Krishnamurti's philosophy (11:20)
• Three reasons why the process of becoming is problematic (12:108)
• The difference between chronological time and psychological time (12:35) 
• David describes the psychological self (17:55)
• Image-making: how it relates to the process of becoming and generating inner conflict (22:37) 
• Genuine, authentic change that is free of time and image (25:46)
• What is the nature and meaning of transformation? (26:32)
• The negative approach (28:56)
• Transformation isn't something that you do, it's something you see  (30:47)
• Illusion and insight (31:49)
• What does psychological revolution entail? (39:00)
• David reads an excerpt from “The Urgency of Change” book (43:21)
• Karen introduces  Q&A panel (47:00)

The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 4 - What is a healthy mind?

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
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Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
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Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/

This organization is a registered charity. Registered charity number: 312865

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Jaap Sluijter interviews James "Jim" Lee Dixon about the time he spent with J. Krishnamurti. Jim Dixon was a renowned carpet and art collector, master gardener, friend of the Foundation and prior owner/donor of the Occidental, California property which will now become a Krishnamurti Center. Jim attended many of Krishnamurti's talks and found the work of K  to be the most important project to support with his estate.

Jim will be missed dearly, but his passion for the teachings, and the perfume of love he left behind, will remain alive and well in Occidental, California and beyond.

In remembrance of James Lee Dixon, August 26th 1943-March 23rd 2020
Link to obituary

The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 3 - The need for security

Summary:

Why do we want security?

Am I separate from the agony I go through?

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For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
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Krishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/
Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/

This organization is a registered charity. Registered charity number: 312865

© 1982 Krishnamurti Foundation of America

Jaap Sluijter and Henry Fischer join Rupert Spira once again to look at the questions posed by J. Krishnamurti's teachings. See more interviews and explorations like this one at theimmeasurable.org.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 2 - Psychological Suffering

Summary:

What is security?

I have an image about myself. I am a great cook, a great scientist, a great carpenter, whatever you will. I have got that picture in myself and you come along and put a pin into it. And that gets hurt, the image gets hurt. The image is me.

What is a human being?

You are not basically different from me. You may be tall, you may be born in England, I may be born in Africa, I have dark skin, but deep down, the river, the content of the river is the water. The river is not an Asiatic river or European river, it is a river.
Love is not English, American or Indian. Agony is not yours or mine, it is agony. But we identify ourselves with agony - it is my agony, which is not yours. Why do we want to identify with something?

Is there a learning about oneself which is not constant accumulation about myself?

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

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Twitter - https://twitter.com/orgKrishnamurti
Krishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/
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Gianni Garubo interviews Michael Krohnen, author of The Kitchen Chronicles: 1001 Lunches with J. Krishnamurti and librarian at the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California, about Krohnen's long history and personal relationship with J. Krishnamurti.

The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting the four part series from Ojai in 1982 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with Rupert Sheldrake, David Bohm and John Hidley about the nature of the mind. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti - Ojai 1982 - Discussion with Scientists 1 - Roots of psychological disorder

Q: What is the source of psychological disorder?

A: Is not the self the beginning of all disorder?

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurti
Twitter - https://twitter.com/orgKrishnamurti
Krishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/
Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/

© 1982 Krishnamurti Foundation of America

Dr. Gabor Maté, renowned speaker and best seller author, well known for his work in childhood development, stress and trauma is interviewed by Francisco Mazza, director of development at Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California. Francisco is joined by Jaap Sluijter, executive director of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America.

In the following podcast, the relationship between Gabor Maté's work, the teachings of J. Krishnamurti and the challenges facing present day society, are explored in depth.

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To register for Jackie McInley's upcoming ONLINE program click on this link: An Exploration of Hurt in Our Lives (April 19th-23rd, 2021) from the Krishnamurti Foundation of America.

In the following podcast, Jackie McInley explores the nature of dialogue with Henry Fischer. This is part of an on-going series looking at the habitual ways we approach any topic with another person. Do we freely listen or do we bring beliefs and conclusions to our conversations and react from them? Are we more mechanical than we realize? 

Some topics in this series include: What is dialogue, what makes it different? What does it mean to relate to someone directly? Is there a "psychological wound" which is commonly avoided? Can we see the movement of thought without any psychological separation from it?

As we continue to meet this mechanical process through direct observation and ask penetrating questions without relating to them from memory, do we begin to knock at the door of the what Krishnamurti calls "the immeasurable"?