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Only have time to listen in bite-sized chunks? Skip straight to the parts of the podcast most relevant to you:

Why companies should be aware of the new SEC rules (1:43)

What’s at stake: CISO personal liability, as seen in the SolarWinds complaint (4:18)

Lessons for other organizations from the SEC’s complaint (5:25)

How the GC can coach the CISO on getting the board up to speed on cyber risk (6:28)

How often cybersecurity risk should appear on the board’s agenda (7:28)

Details on what information the CISO should share with directors (9:05)

Tips on how the GC can coach the CISO on board presentations (10:49)

What else the GC should do now to manage the SEC’s rules (13:07)

Pitfalls to avoid (14:26)

In this article, we explore how CISOs can dramatically enhance their cybersecurity strategies by adopting best practices from various corporate roles, from CEOs to General Counsel to HR Directors. Discover how this collaborative approach not only fortifies security measures but also aligns them seamlessly with broader business objectives, driving organizational success in a safe and secure manner.

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In this article, we explore how CISOs can dramatically enhance their cybersecurity strategies by adopting best practices from various corporate roles, from CEOs to General Counsel to HR Directors. Discover how this collaborative approach not only fortifies security measures but also aligns them seamlessly with broader business objectives, driving organizational success in a safe and secure manner.

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TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.

John is joined by Eric F. Grossman, Chief Legal Officer and Chief Administrative Officer of Morgan Stanley.  They discuss the current legal issues facing General Counsel at major international institutions including how generative AI and machine learning will impact legal services and how companies interact with their clients; when companies should speak out on social issues; and the current regulatory push regarding financial disclosures, antitrust concerns and climate related issues.  They also discuss ESG efforts including the impact of such efforts on employee morale, the capital commitments necessary to transition to sustainability and the importance of accuracy in disclosing ESG commitments.  They also discuss cryptocurrencies, including building the infrastructure and trading and the relatively slow adoption of blockchain.  Finally, they discuss areas of increasing legal risk, including risks facing businesses built on business models that assumed low interest rates and the opportunities for distressed asset investors and bankruptcy practitioners.

Podcast Link: Law-disrupted.fm
Host: John B. Quinn
Producer: Alexis Hyde
Music and Editing by: Alexander Rossi

Guest: John Sapp , VP, Information Security & CISO at Texas Mutual Insurance Company [@texasmutual]

On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbsappjr/

On Twitter | https://www.twitter.com/czarofcyber

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

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Episode Notes

In this episode of Redefining Cybersecurity, hosted by Sean Martin, listeners are invited to explore the complex landscape of cyber risk governance. John Sapp, a seasoned professional in risk management, emphasizes the importance of defining cyber risk from the perspective of various executives. The CIO, CFO, COO, and general counsel each own different aspects of risk within an organization, and understanding their perspectives is key to effective risk management.

The conversation takes an intriguing turn as John introduces the concept of approaching cyber risk governance as a product. This involves understanding the desired outcomes, defining the requirements, and creating personas for different stakeholders. The aim is to develop a common pane of glass, a unified perspective through which each persona can access near real-time information to make informed decisions.

John also underscores the importance of presenting information to various stakeholders, including the board and cyber insurance carriers, in a way that demonstrates the strength of the organization's cyber risk program. This approach has tangible benefits, such as a reduction in cyber insurance premiums based on the strength of the cyber risk program.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the importance of collective decision-making in managing cyber risk. John emphasizes that it's not about presenting some information and giving somebody responsibility to make a decision, but rather about presenting information in different ways to all the different personas to spur a conversation so that the team can determine the best path forward.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding how to approach cyber risk governance in a way that is both effective and efficient. It provides valuable insights into how to manage risk in an ever-evolving digital world.

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Guest: John Sapp , VP, Information Security & CISO at Texas Mutual Insurance Company [@texasmutual]

On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbsappjr/

On Twitter | https://www.twitter.com/czarofcyber

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Episode Notes

In this episode of Redefining Cybersecurity, hosted by Sean Martin, listeners are invited to explore the complex landscape of cyber risk governance. John Sapp, a seasoned professional in risk management, emphasizes the importance of defining cyber risk from the perspective of various executives. The CIO, CFO, COO, and general counsel each own different aspects of risk within an organization, and understanding their perspectives is key to effective risk management.

The conversation takes an intriguing turn as John introduces the concept of approaching cyber risk governance as a product. This involves understanding the desired outcomes, defining the requirements, and creating personas for different stakeholders. The aim is to develop a common pane of glass, a unified perspective through which each persona can access near real-time information to make informed decisions.

John also underscores the importance of presenting information to various stakeholders, including the board and cyber insurance carriers, in a way that demonstrates the strength of the organization's cyber risk program. This approach has tangible benefits, such as a reduction in cyber insurance premiums based on the strength of the cyber risk program.

The episode concludes with a discussion on the importance of collective decision-making in managing cyber risk. John emphasizes that it's not about presenting some information and giving somebody responsibility to make a decision, but rather about presenting information in different ways to all the different personas to spur a conversation so that the team can determine the best path forward.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in understanding how to approach cyber risk governance in a way that is both effective and efficient. It provides valuable insights into how to manage risk in an ever-evolving digital world.

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Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube Channel

Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

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ITSPmagazine YouTube Channel:

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0:00 -- Intro. 

*Note: you can check out our analysis of Succession's first season in E98 of this podcast (published on May 22nd, 2023).

1:43 -- Start of interview.

4:03 -- Governance challenges to family-owned companies.

5:50 -- On Kendall's car accident and legal implications. Issues of corporate wellness, mental issues and drug-use. *Story on Tyson Foods' CFO.

10:55 -- Waystar’s response to “bear hug” offer from Maysberry. “I saw their plan, but my father's was better.” On disclosure process and vetting of public statements.

17:34-- Impact of explosion of Waystar rocket in Japan (after Roman rushed the launch).

18:45-- On Shiv's prospects as CEO of Waystar.

20:13 -- On the role of the board in the "bear hug," conflicts of interests, and lack of an independent committee of the board.

21:25 -- The Pierce acquisition to block Sandy and Stewy. On the role of third-party advisors (investment banks) and the Jamie Laird character.

27:46 -- On sovereign wealth funds looking to control the news through ATN. On the character of Mark Ravenhead.

33:10 -- The Vaulter shutdown and question on unions.

41:04 -- Revelation of cruise line issues (press report) lead to loss of business opportunities (Pierce, etc.) and loss of key employees (Rhea’s departure). The accounting whistleblower. Rhea, worrying that she’s agreed to be CEO of a “dumpster fire pirate death ship” says, “Either they did know, which is terrible, or they didn’t know, which is an unconscionable lack of control.” (Caremark standard) 

47:17 -- The Congressional hearing. How should CEOs and/or management prepare for congressional hearings? "This is not a court house, it's a stage." "Testifying in Congress is much more similar to being on a Sunday morning news show." "The clock is your friend here." "In circumstances like that, sometimes the best answers are yes, no, or I don't recall - as opposed to speechifying about something."

54:35 --  The questionable decision of having a general counsel testify in Congress. On waivers of attorney-client privilege.

1:00:26 --  The "blood sacrifice" offered by Waystar Royco after the Congressional hearing. Caremark standard and the fallacy of "what you don't know can't hurt you" (willful blindness). The NRPI ("No Real Person Involved") notations in shadow logs.

1:09:26 --  Cultural and reputational issues and the way the show connects them to shareholder value. Culture of fear and bullying. Sexual harassment and improper behavior.

Kate O'Leary is the Global Executive Litigation Counsel at General Electric Company.

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In this episode we’re diving into the world of microstress, guided by the co-author of a newly released book on this topic, Karen Dillon. In this really fascinating chat, we explore her research and findings into microstress and discuss how in-house counsel and lawyers more broadly can navigate these stresses.

Karen explains why and how the top 10% of the top performers were able to manage so much more effectively than the rest. We also consider how leaders can help create work cultures to better manage these stresses and that there are no small guestures in leadership.

Further information:

• The Microstress Effect: How Little Things Pile Up and Create Big Problems--and What to Do about It (Book Link)
• The Hidden Toll of Microstress (HBR)
• Karen Dillon is a contributing editor to Harvard Business Review and the co-author of three books NYT best-sellers.  She was also the editor and publisher for The American Lawyer in the 1990s. FInd out more about Karen here. 
• Learn more about LOD here.

In this event we cover:

• Managing Your Money
• Understanding Risk Vs. Reward
• Choosing Investments

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Managing Your Money‍

To manage your money effectively, focus on both cash flow (money coming in and going out) and net worth (assets minus liabilities).

• Prioritize paying off high-interest debt before investing or saving.
• Consider automating savings contributions to make it easier to save consistently.

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Understanding Risk vs Reward

• 6:11 Investing involves balancing risk and reward. Generally speaking, higher-risk investments offer higher potential rewards but also come with higher potential losses.
• Diversification is key to managing risk in your investment portfolio. Spread your investments across different asset classes and industries.

Choosing Investments

• When choosing investments, consider factors such as fees, historical performance, and the overall market environment. Index funds are a popular choice for many investors because they offer broad exposure to the market at a low cost.

Importance of Tracking Expenses

Why Track Expenses?

• Tracking expenses is important to understand spending behavior.
• Getting 12 months of data is necessary to account for seasonality and smooth out spending habits.
• Use tools like Tiller Money, Mint, or Rocket Money to plug in accounts and get real data.

Compensation Structure‍

• 18:16 Partners in law firms receive a base salary for three years before their total compensation is increased to seven or eight figures. Partners are responsible for making estimated tax payments directly to the government instead of having withholding come out of their paycheck. This can lead to cash flow issues and confusion about promised compensation.

Challenges of Partnership

• The transition to partnership can be challenging due to the sudden increase in responsibility and financial obligations. It may take several years before things normalize, leading to frustration among new partners. Many professionals, including lawyers, lack financial education and rely on working hard and throwing money at problems rather than managing finances effectively.

In this episode, we explore how in-house legal leaders can show the value of their legal department. To dive a bit deeper into the topic, we speak to Sterling Miller, a luminary in the in-house world and recent author of a book on this very topic. In our wide-ranging conversation, Sterling warns against the over-reliance on metrics, the superpower of storytelling, the importance of having a plan to improve and remembering them mission of the legal team. 

Learn more:

• About LOD
• About Sterling
• Sterling's latest book: Showing the Value of the Legal Department: More Than Just a Cost Center
• LOD's article on Demonstrating the value of in-house legal

Please join Troutman Pepper Partner Chris Willis and his colleague Vin Thomas as they discuss what it's like to be a general counsel of a financial services company, based on Vin's long experience as a financial services general counsel. During this episode, they examine various types of challenging work a general counsel faces, including managing regulatory and compliance matters; the nuances of working for public and private companies handling deals, such as mergers and acquisitions; initial public offerings; and navigating a myriad of litigation matters.

As part of the firm's Consumer Financial Services Practice Group, Vin Thomas provides corporate and regulatory advice to clients, bringing substantial experience in public and private company representation. Vin focuses his practice on regulatory risks posed by state and federal laws aimed at protecting consumers with credit, deposit, and payments products. Having served as general counsel for multiple companies in the financial sector for 15+ years, Vin is acutely aware of the unique legal, regulatory, and compliance demands facing in-house legal departments across the industry.

“Admit when you've made a mistake. Because it's so important to not try to cover up or hide. As you're learning, you're expected to make mistakes. So, don't be afraid of making mistakes, admit your mistakes and you really will be respected for that.”

In this episode, I talk to Carolyn Muir, the General Counsel and Senior Vice President of contracts at Steampunk, a growing IT services and consulting firm in the Washington DC area.

You'll hear Carolyn talk about her story of growth, learning, and seizing opportunities to achieve her goal of becoming General Counsel after decades of preparation. She shares with us powerful words of wisdom about leadership, the importance of having a growth mindset, and some of the lessons of experience she has learned along the way.

In this episode:

• Preparation meets opportunity in Carolyn’s leadership journey
• Some really powerful advice for people just entering their profession
• Learning about your personality preferences and how to bring your authentic self and unique contribution into a team
• How mentors can help you 
• Failure, a learning mindset, and “reserving the right to evolve”
• And more!

Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


Resource Links:

For anybody who's interested in reading or learning more about the concept of a learning mindset (or growth mindset) that we talked about in this episode, I recommend this great book: Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol S. Dweck.


Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Carolyn Muir 

Connect with Janet Ioli:
Website: janetioli.com
Linkedin: Janet Ioli
Instagram: @janetioli
Janet is the founder of Power Presence Academy. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.

If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out Janet Ioli’s book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.

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“I was watching myself doing these behaviors and I thought: [...] ‘do I ever have to act like that? And who could I be, if I'm not acting like that? What could I create? How much energy am I expending?”

In this episode of Power Presence Academy, I talk to Carita Walker, the Chief Legal Officer, General Counsel, and Head of Legal for Shell Recharge Solutions Americas and Asia. Carita shares some of the truly valuable lessons she has learned along her leadership journey.  She reminds us how stereotypes can make us feel diminished and hold us back.  Carita emphasizes the importance of expressing ourselves authentically to maximize our inner power.  She offers important lessons of experience relevant to all leaders seeking to find and express their voice.

In this episode:

• Carita’s path toward becoming General Counsel 
• The advice Carita would give herself when she started out her leadership journey 15 years ago
• The importance of authenticity and expressing all sides of yourself
• Overcoming stereotypes that hold you back
• Unpacking the imposter phenomenon and why women face it
• Finding your leadership voice
• And more!

Power Presence Academy: Practical Wisdom for Leaders is the go-to podcast for anyone who leads. Your host is Janet Ioli, leadership and human development expert, sought-after coach and advisor to global executives, and former executive with experience in four Fortune 100 companies. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and learn to lead with Less Ego, More Soul.


Noteworthy Quotes from This Episode

“There have been moments where I've had to look at myself and say: ‘you know what? I'm not even sure what my authentic self is, because I've been trying to fit this particular mold and trying to be this particular thing, because that's what society says I should do, or how I should act.”

“It's too much work to try to be someone else or to try to fit into a mold. I've just learned, and I'm seeing that the more authentic I am, the more authentic I see other people. I think that's a better formula for success.”

“In my opinion, there's no reason why extraordinarily competent women, experienced women, accomplished women, should walk around feeling as if they don't belong.”

“I think that the roles that we are in as leaders are just conduits for bigger things for us to have an impact on the world, or even to what our true purpose is in life.”

Connect with today’s guest on LinkedIn: Carita Walker 

Connect with Janet Ioli:
Website: janetioli.com
Linkedin: Janet Ioli
Instagram: @janetioli
Janet is the founder of Power Presence Academy. She helps leaders ground themselves with confidence, connection, and purpose and lead with Less Ego, More Soul.

If you want to become more grounded, confident, and aligned with your deeper values in just 21 days. Check out Janet Ioli’s book Less Ego, More Soul: A Modern Reinvention Guide for Women.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Select “Listen in Apple Podcasts,” then choose the “Ratings & Reviews” tab to share what you think.

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In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Tonit Calaway, Executive Vice President, Chief Administrative Officer, General Counsel and Secretary at BorgWarner Inc.

Throughout the episode, Tonit discusses her career and what led to her role as general counsel.

Episode highlights include:

1. Skills you need as a General Counsel
2. Being open to opportunities that come your way
3. Her day to day life as a General Counsel
4. Having a supportive team

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Dan Kayne is Founder of the O Shaped Lawyer, and General Counsel at Network Rail. Having qualified in private practice with Dechert LLP, Dan eventually made the transition to an in-house role at Network Rail in 2007. Recently, he has attracted significant attention for his work through the O Shaped Lawyer, which he founded in 2019. They are a campaign group, calling for reforms to the training and development of lawyers, in the hopes of creating a more positive and human-centric legal industry.

Dan's work aligns closely with the Humans of Law podcast, and makes for arresting discussion with host Louise Anderson. Together, they explore the life event that personally led Dan to push for change in the legal industry. Dan speaks passionately about the changes he wants to see in the industry, and he and Louise offer an optimistic and hopeful look at the legal industry of the future.
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In this instalment of Humans of Law, Mary speaks with Catie Sheret, General Counsel at Cambridge University Press.

Catie has had an incredible interesting legal journey. After qualifying with Linklaters, she spent almost 20 years working in a number of Senior in-house roles at education publisher Pearson. In 2018, she took a leap of faith and moved to Cambridge University Press. Catie has a staggering amount of experience managing legal teams, which makes for a rich and interesting discussion with Mary. They share tips on getting the best of your legal team, how they're finding the experience of managing people during the age of hybrid working, and how in-house lawyers can demonstrate value to their organisations.

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New opportunities, increased revenue, and more employees are all signs of a growing business.  But for founders, an uptick in legal expenses is a sure sign of growth too.

Bringing the right in-house counsel into your business delivers advantages, including knowing your business better and responding quickly to all your legal concerns and requirements.

So when is it time - and what is the process - of hiring an in-house legal counsel? 
What should you look for in an applicant, and what is a realistic budget for this investment? 

In this episode of Help, My Business Is Growing, my guest Amy Rowland and I examine the art of recruiting legal counsel into your business, from fractional legal help to hiring an in-house counsel full time. 

Amy Rowland is a legal recruiter and founder of Varia Search, a boutique legal recruiting firm that fills legal department roles, from general counsel to paralegals, in startups and tech companies. 

In this week's episode, we discuss:

2:00 How is a Fractional Talent Acquisition Consultant different from a recruiter specializing in the legal field?

3:00 Definition of terms: What is an outside counsel? What is an in-house counsel? And what is general counsel?

5:00 When do you know it's time to hire someone to be your in-house counsel vs. just an outside counsel?

6:25 Is there a difference between a startup needing in-house counsel versus an already established business? 

7:15 What quality should business owners look for when hiring an in-house counsel?

8:30 Is it beneficial to hire someone with prior experience working with the smaller companies/startups versus someone who's been in larger companies?

11:15 What is a realistic budget to have, inclusive of recruitment fees and fully loaded benefits to offer to a successful in-house counsel applicant

12:40 How do fractional legal counsels work?

13:45  What roles are founders recruiting more of as their companies are growing?

15:11 What is it that makes a great salesperson?

16:45 What does the process of involving a Fractional Talent Acquisition Consultant in a growing business look like? 

18:00 What is the difference between a contract manager and a junior lawyer? 

19:02 If trying to budget, can startup founders or business owners combine hiring an in-house junior lawyer with a more senior outside counsel? 

21:07 What is the next tangible step to take to determine if your business needs in-house legal counsel?

Resources:
Amy Rowland, Founder of Varia Search, a boutique recruiting and consulting firm:
https://www.variasearch.com/

Kathy Svetina, Fractional CFO:
https://www.newcastlefinance.us/


Blog post | How to Recruit Legal Counsel For Your Growing Business
https://www.newcastlefinance.us/post/how-to-recruit-legal-counsel-for-your-growing-business

In this episode, we discuss the memo received by the NLRB's General Counsel on student athletes and their possible status as employees. Subscribe to our podcast today to stay up to date on employment issues from law experts worldwide.

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