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Really excited to share my conversation with Leslie Trovato with you, friends!  She is a writer and a mama, loved thru divorce & breast cancer & COVID over the past two years, so she has a lot of content!  We chatted about how to let go of expectations around the holidays, and what Emmanuel, God with us, actually means.  Hope you enjoy it, let us know!

Love,

Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy

PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!

Thanks for sending in your questions for Dr. Russell Moore!  They were SO good that we decided to dedicate an entire episode to his answers!  Hope you enjoy part 2 of our conversation with @russellmoore

Love,

Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy

PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

Have you ever found yourself in a conversation these days wondering, “am I crazy?”  Or, “how do I have conversations with friends & family with whom I disagree politically?”  We asked Dr. Russell Moore these questions as well as what it means to be an evangelical Christian in a post-truth world.  Will civility ever be restored?  Dr. Moore is the former head of Ethics and Religion for the Southern Baptist Convention (and he tells us why he left), and is now a public theologian for Christianity Today.  We had to break up the conversation into two parts because it was all so good that we couldn’t cut it down to a one hour episode.  We don’t come from the same place or see all things the same way, which was what made this conversation so special.  Hope you enjoy Part 1 of our conversation with @russellmoore

Love,

Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy

PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!

The pandemic has taken alot from all of us.  One thing we are just barely recovering is our ability to see possibility, and to dream again. Dan Bremnes - musician, family man, risk-taker, dreamer - reminds us that we need to listen to our crazy ideas because they just might unlock our next step to a life lived, not just tolerated. Dan shares the story behind his new single “Run Away With Me,” https://open.spotify.com/track/1l6gBfmaoPBcRhuZbslIpb?si=kQlrSfPuRb2wJngAhniU5Q which is a real-life example of what can happen we we go after the crazy ideas in our head that we generally disregard as too “out there.”  Hint - it involves a deserted island and an email :)

And it’s a great song:) 

We hope this episode inspires you to walk towards your next step!

Love,

Jodi, Chris, Milo & Ziggy

PS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

Welcome back to the podcast!  We took a break this summer after our house flooded, thinking we’d start it back up when we were back in, but alas we are still waiting…  

The good news is we have a lot to share from this displaced transition season, so we thought we’d embrace it with “Conversations in the Car with Chris and Jodi.”  A little series within the podcast where we literally press record and let you into our chats on the road, and edit nothing (sorry for the road noise)!  Jodi and I both just read “The Bible Tells Me So” by Peter Enns, and it’s helped us feel ok with our questions about the Bible.  Whether it be genocide in the Old Testament, and wrestling with the commandment, “thou shalt not kill,” while God seems to order the killing of women & children & entire people groups, or all the Levitical laws that don’t seem to apply anymore, there’s a lot that makes us uncomfortable.  It hit us while we were reading Bible stories to our kids, that there is a lot that is too R-rated for them to handle.  It left us with a lot of questions, and in case you are in the same boat, we wanted to give you permission to journey with us.  This episode provides more process and questions than answers, but there will be follow up episodes where we dig deeper into these questions.  Wanted to be honest about the where we’re at, so come along for the ride!

Here’s a link to Peter’s store if you’d like to check it out!

https://peteenns.com/store/

Sending love,

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy 

PS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

We are so excited for you to join our conversation on anxiety with the one and only Sissy Goff!  She is an expert child and adolescent counselor at Daystar Ministries here in Nashville, as well as an author and equipper.  She has helped our family so much amidst our flood trauma during COVID.  Here’s the thing - everything she says doesn’t just work for kids, but also applies to adults!  So whether you’re an adult, parent, or teen, this episode on how to stop the hamster wheel of fear and anxiety is for you.  We can find Jesus’ peace in the midst of trauma, and we hope this episode gives you the tools to find it!  You can find her here @sissygoff @raisingboysandgirls and listen to her podcast here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/raising-boys-girls/id1366344369

Sending love,

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy 

PS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

PPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

Jasmine Murray is the kind of influencer you want to follow.  American Idol top-13 finalist, Miss Mississippi and top 10 Miss America, she’s had to deal with how to be her authentic self while still stepping on stage and trying to impress.  Not scared to admit when she can barely get out of bed, or how good it feels to have pushed through a workout she didn’t feel like doing.  Honest about her anxiety and depression, as well as her love for fashion, she lives it all with Christ at the center.  We had a good ol’ girl chat about all the things!  Hope you enjoy this conversation with singer/influencer/powerhouse woman, Jasmine Murray!  Follow her @jasminemurrayofficial 

P.S. - We wanted to share a quick update about our house.  We have felt so supported by all of you and are blown away by your generosity. We’ve decided to elevate our house eight feet and make it flood-proof. This is an expensive endeavor but it will allow us to move back in and sleep at night. The total cost will be approximately $60,000 (including new foundation, elevating, engineer, surveyor, contractor, etc). Any gift is appreciated, we literally couldn’t do this without you. You have been our lifeline. Thanks so much 😆💛🙏🏻

https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-jodi-flood-relief

Sending love,

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy 

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

PPPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

It hit me while we were jumping on the trampoline in the backyard of our broken house, and then out of the blue while I was making pizza in my friends kitchen, missing my own. We don’t like to give ourselves space to grieve. We like it to happen on a certain day in a certain way, so we can control it and look “strong”. But the truth is, the happiest moments are often when the sadness hits out of nowhere. Maybe you’re in a grieving season, and you feel the need to be strong and get through. Giving yourself permission to grieve IS strong.

So I'm giving myself and giving you permission to grieve in your own way, day to day, however it shows up. Like my friend Jenny said to me on the phone, “it takes energy to push it down and it takes energy to feel it, so either way it’s gonna suck! Thanks for your honest words friend. I needed to hear them. Maybe you do too.

P.S. - We wanted to share a quick update about our house. It’s been a hard two weeks of grieving and dealing with big decisions about our house. We have felt so supported by all of you and are blown away by your generosity. We’ve decided to elevate our house eight feet and make it flood proof. This is an expensive endeavor but it will allow us to move back in and sleep at night. The total cost will be approximately $60,000 (including new foundation, elevating, engineer, surveyor, contractor, etc). Any gift is appreciated, we literally couldn’t do this without you. You have been our lifeline. Thanks so much 😆💛🙏🏻

https://www.gofundme.com/f/chris-jodi-flood-relief

Sending love,

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy 

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

PPPS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

We found Rich Villodas and his church, New Life Fellowship, online the Sunday after the Capitol insurrection.  We were confused and wrestling with the church’s response or lack thereof, to this evil act.  Rich’s sermon that Sunday assured us that there is no way to separate justice and mercy from the gospel, and that becoming a Christian means we have to deal with our stuff, not just pass it off to the Lord and peace out.

Rich’s new book, “The Deeply Formed Life” gives us five transformative values to help us live rooted in these crazy times.  “God is not interested in transforming some parts of us and leaving the rest untouched.  He is not interested in separating our lives into sacred and not sacred categories, or reducing our faith to a personal decision that merely punches a ticket to heaven.”  We’re not sure if we’ve ever read a book that married internal growth and the gospel so well.  If this resonates with you, and you’ve been looking for permission to rethink what living a gospel life actually looks like, this podcast episode will both encourage you and rock your world. Get your pens out!

Here’s the link to Rich’ book:

https://www.richvillodas.com/

Thanks for digging in with us, hope you enjoy this episode!  If you do, subscribe and share it with a friend :)

PS - If you are subscribed to our PATREON you will receive access to all our episodes a week early!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Check out www.patreon.com/loveandtheoutcome

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

Hi Friends,

It’s so easy to write people off, isn’t it?  When they don’t see things the way we do, vote the way we do, belong to the same group we do… But here’s the thing:  it's in the sharing of our stories, leaning in to listen and learn, NOT winning someone over to our side, that we grow!  When we posted about the insurrection at the Capitol and the inauguration, we watched as our social media number plummeted.  All of a sudden people assumed so much about who we are and what we believe.  At first we wondered if we did something wrong… but it led to beautiful, complicated conversations that we would never have had otherwise!  

So this week’s podcast episode asks & attempts to answer this question: how do we not care what people think, but still care about people?  Wow - that’s tough, isn’t it?  To show up and share your perspective in love, AND leave space for others to do the same is not easy, but it’s necessary.  We are equal parts nervous & excited about being more transparent, and engaging in vulnerable conversations as we move into 2021.  We want to let you in to our questions & the things we’re working through, and we trust that if you’re here on the journey with us, you want to join in the conversation and do the same!  Our prayer is that even in conflict, we could be loving towards each other.  If we make our point but lose the plot of loving God & people, we’ve lost everything.  We love you and we’re so glad you’re here!  

PS - we are launching a PATREON!  Never heard of it?  It's the ultimate L&TO insiders’ subscription, a chance to get unreleased songs, conversations, and devotionals delivered to you personally every month!  We will even do a Worship Wednesday exclusive just for Patreon members and pray for you all individually.  We are excited about going deeper with you, and we hope you’ll join us!  Patreon launches Feb. 1st!  Stay tuned for more info :)

PPS - if you’ve been looking for a way to participate in being light in the world during this COVID season, check out www.lovehealinghugs.com and sponsor a life-changing surgery for a child who desperately needs one!  For one dollar a day for a year, you can send a Healing Hug to a little one whose family can’t afford to pay for the surgery.  As God continues to provide for you, why not help provide for someone less fortunate than yourself.  Love you all, thanks for being so generous!!  

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

We had a 2021 “planning meeting” today and it was weird! How do you plan during a pandemic when your industry is shut down? Maybe you’re not facing the same challenges that we are as touring musicians who can’t tour, but I’m sure you’re feeling this tension in your life, too. The inability to put dates on a calendar, or see our families…maybe you’ve given up on dreaming?

This week’s podcast is all about dreaming even when you can’t plan or see what’s ahead; how to not let last year’s disappointments steal your anticipation for what God has for you in 2021.

We pray that these little tips are transformational in your life, and the way you approach this year.

And if you’re looking for a way to give (and get a tax receipt) this year, head to www.lovehealinghugs.comand pay for a child living in poverty to have a life changing surgery this year.  $360 dollars ($1 a day) or $30 a month will sponsor a surgery for a little one who can’t afford it.  Send a healing hug this year!

Love to you friends, keep dreaming!

Chris, Jodi, Milo & Ziggy

I woke up this morning feeling heavy-hearted, overwhelmed, and an overall lack of clarity & focus.  We are all balancing a lot these days, and the holidays are a magical time, but they add another layer to everything don’t they?  Here’s the thing - even in our over-whelm we still need to get up and function to take care of ourselves & our families.  I don’t have all the answers, but God does, and He definitely met me in the middle of it all and helped me through.  Here’s some tangible ways to feel and fight through overwhelm... and it all starts with His love.  I hope you find this helpful, love to hear your thoughts!

Ps - This weekend ONLY, everything in Jodi’s shop is 20% off including these beautiful cross scarves!  

This Thanksgiving is so different for all of us.  We can’t get across the border to see family and eat turkey, and many of you are staying home and staying safe as well.  In the midst of it all, we have been feeling sad, lost, overwhelmed and exhausted, and a little ashamed for feeling that way.  As Christians aren’t we supposed to just push through and “be thankful?”  In this week’s podcast episode we talk about just that - how being thankful isn’t turning a blind eye to our pain and sadness, but knowing he is right there with us in the midst of it.  It is ok to feel both - sad and thankful.  

Jesus himself said, “Blessed are the poor in spirit,” so He was giving us permission to feel down.  But scripture also reminds us that we don’t mourn as those who have no hope, and “the joy of the Lord is our strength”.  The only way Chris and I know of, to resiliently find hope in the midst of a challenging 2020, is to develop our gratitude muscle.  Gratitude leads to joy, which leads to strength.  We hope you find this episode both honest and encouraging as we let you into our lives.  You are not alone!  Wishing you all a meaningful and memorable Thanksgiving! 

Do you ever find yourself scrolling through Instagram wishing you had everyone else’s life? We spend so much time comparing and envying other people’s dreams and success that you don’t lean into your own! Today’s podcast conversation with Jamie Ivey helps us realize that success looks different for all of us, and satisfaction is closer than we think! She shares practical ways to embrace your space, bloom where you’re planted, and live your best life now, all from her new book “YOU BE YOU.”  This episode is for every woman wanting to lean into her calling and away from comparison.

Go grab Jamie’s book here (https://linktr.ee/JamieIvey) and follow along with her here (@youbeyoubook @jamieivey).

We’re back!! We haven’t played a live show in seven months, but we’re learning that our calling hasn’t changed, just the way we do it. We spent this episode sharing the steps we’re taking to stay hopeful and sane and productive during this season, and how protecting our kids from everything is not our aim as parents. You gotta listen to the episode to get our thoughts on cancel culture and we’d love to hear your thoughts too! Oh yeah, and it’s Chris’ b-day!! We loved updating you guys on our lives and hope there are a few takeaways for yours! 

Ps - have you heard our new single “Moving On”?  Check it out here https://youtu.be/qiQXZyD3xcg

This week’s episode with Carlos Whittaker is so empowering.  He just released a book called “Enter Wild,” all about moving from safe and boring to living a wild-not-mild faith.  He has battled anxiety and shares some of the tools that have helped him overcome it; praying scripture over your life and promises instead of problems. He has become a voice we follow and respect so much when it comes to race and injustice in America.  If you don’t follow him, you should @loswhit :). Also make sure to grab a copy of his new book here https://carloswhittaker.com/enter-wild/ 

We are so excited for this week’s podcast episode with Desiree Siegfried!  I got to zoom chat with her back in April, just as COVID-19 was getting crazy and we were a few weeks into quarantine. You may know her as ‘The Bachelorette’ from Season 9, where she shared her life with the world on national television... but lots has happened since then!  As a young woman searching for love while also searching for herself, and now as a momma of two boys and wife to the man she met on ‘The Bachelorette,’ Desiree opens up about her experience on reality TV, finding her identity in Christ, and why people-pleasing never works.  So pull up a chair and listen to Desiree’s story,  I know her faith journey is really going to encourage you!  Make sure and check out her podcast ‘Heart of Purpose’ and follow along with her on IG @desireesiegfried

How is your day going?  Chris and I hit the beach with the boys for a few days last week, and it was a refreshing change of scenery for us.  We had a chance to read and play and hang out together and it was just what we needed!  One of the books we read on our two-day getaway is Addison Bevere’s  Saints: Becoming More Than "Christians”.  I gotta admit, the title had us a bit stumped, but the message within explained and inspired us so much that we decided to have him on the podcast!

Addison (son of Lisa & John Bevere), believes it is time to become more than just cultural Christians and start seeing and living as the saints that we are.  Did you know that the word ‘Christian’ is only used three times in the New Testament, but the word 'Saint' is used over sixty times?  Paul starts almost every letter ’To the saints…’ and that’s you and me!  "Saints is not just a name for dead people, it is meant to be our new identity that shapes our destiny.  Saints are people who break down barriers between the secular and the sacred, and people who see the intersection of faith in everyday life".  

We can’t wait for you guys to hear this podcast and let it reframe the way you see yourself.  We pray this message will equip you to see and live boldly as your saintly identity sinks in.  

Ps. follow Addison on IG here @addisonbevere and go grab a copy of his book here linktr.ee/addisonbevere 

We did something we’ve never done before - a live instagram chat with Danielle Coke, and turned it into a podcast!!  You have probably seen and been affected by her amazing artwork, and if you haven’t, go check out her page @ohhappydani.  She is a designer-turned-illustrator from Georgia, with a heart for justice and a love for Jesus and people.  Dani opened up about the micro-aggression she’s faced, for example; “You’re pretty for a black girl” or “is that your real hair?” -these are not things I’ve had to deal with before... We found this conversation so enlightening and life giving and we hope you do too.  Our prayer is that this conversation would help you see, hear and love your neighbor as yourself and that your awareness would lead you to action.