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Dave shares his tales of duck hunting across Arkansas, Kansas and the Panhandle.

Today we are chatting with the author of Riding With Evil: Taking Down The Notorious Pagan Motorcycle Gang and ATF Special Agent, Ken Croke. 

Over 25 years, he took part in more than a thousand undercover operations, including gang, drug, and firearms trafficking cases. Married with three young daughters, he was a supervisor who seemed to cruise to a quiet suburban retirement.

But, when a tip about criminal motorcycle gangs came into the Boston ATF field office in 2008, the experienced Croke was brought in to check out sources and information. Then came a chance encounter with an associate of the Pagans. “One thing led to another,” and he was on the case.

Ken spent the next two years of his life in deep undercover where he became the first member of law enforcement to become a fully patched member of one of the most violent Outlaw Motorcycle gangs, the Pagans. 

In today’s episode we discuss:

·      Ken’s path to becoming an ATF Special Agent.

·      How long it usually takes an ATF agent to work undercover.

·      The different types of undercover cases. 

·      Through a series of unusual circumstances, he was pulled into the Pagans.

·      Outlaw motorcycle gang vocabulary.

·      The popular television show, Sons of Anarchy. 

·      The heavy toll his undercover work took on him and his family.

All of this and more on today’s episode of the Cops and Writers podcast.

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From the moment we occur in this iteration of consciousness we are transforming. Our bodies are lost and replaced thousands of times.

Some day you might be old. What if you are, and it is great? What if it's more like magic than anything you've known so far? 

Most likely our predictions about what's coming next don't alter the course of our glorious fall, so - why not predict the best? 

Sascha and I have decided to spend some time doing just that. We'd love you to join us. 

What kind of great do you think it might be? 

Helen enjoys a catchup Facetime call with her publisher friend Joey.  They swap old lady experiences of diminishing dietary possibilities, and short walks. Helen confesses a desire to be more like Neil Gaiman. And Janey drops by to borrow yet another children's book.  The music for this episode is "When the Whole World Opens Up Again" by Joanna Cazden. You can find it on Youtube here.

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