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In this LIVE discussion and review, Prepare to have your perspective on DWI checkpoints and traffic stops reshaped as we unravel the complexities of law enforcement with insights from the host, Sgt Erik Lavigne, former Chicago-area officer Dominic Izzo, Texas deputy Banning Sweatland, and Deputy Sloup from “Fridays with Frank” out of Pinal County. This week's conversation ignites a robust debate on the legality and ethics of these police practices, offering a treasure trove of knowledge from seasoned professionals. We'll bring you into the heat of the moment with real-time analysis of body cam footage, giving you an officer's-eye view of critical decision-making that could make the difference between safety and tragedy.

Tune in as we dissect the art of communication and the impact of education on the force, challenging the traditional divide between street smarts and scholarly knowledge. Our guests share adrenaline-fueled stories from the frontline, debating the merits of high-speed pursuits and the tactical dance officers perform during standoffs and arrests. Listen closely for a gripping discussion on the use of force and the intricate balance police must strike between their authority and the rights of individuals during the tensest of encounters.

Cap off the experience with a deep dive into nighttime traffic stop safety, the strategies employed in the silent rural darkness, and the olfactory-based probable cause when marijuana comes into play. Our panelists don't hold back on the nuances of approach, the perils they face on the job, and the ever-present specter of armed confrontations that demand a swift and measured response. Join us for an unflinching look at the police profession, where every decision counts and the resolve of those who protect and serve is constantly put to the test.

Each guest has their own set of thoughts and opinions and do not reflect nor are endorsed by the Two Cops One Donut podcast. 

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I am joined in the studio by Mark Direen former SASR Australian Special Forces operator.

Mark enlisted into the military in 1993 and after completing infantry training he was posted to the 1st Battalion Royal Australian Regiment.

Mark applied for, and was selected to join the elite ranks of the Australian Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment. Serving in the SAS for over 10 years, Mark specialised in mobility operations, sniping, personal protection duties, special reconnaissance and training of local indigenous forces. With numerous deployments during his service in the Special Forces including Sydney Olympic Games, East Timor, Iraq and five tours of Afghanistan, Mark has extensive experience and knowledge in operating under pressure, working in and leading teams in some of the world’s most hostile and unforgiving environments.

In 2007, while serving as an operational team leader in Afghanistan, Mark
suffered serious injuries during an IED attack. Evacuated home to Australia, Mark focused intently on his recovery and rehabilitation. Displaying his trademark determination and tenacity, Mark successfully made a full return to health and deployed back to Afghanistan just six months later.

Discharging from the Regular Army in 2009, Mark continued to work in
complex and high-risk environments, namely as a team leader and security manager at the Australian Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan during the period 2009 to 2016.

Mark is now Director of Point Assist, a unique company specialising in adventure travel, physical safety and self-improvement. His 25-year career in the military, security and adventure travel fields have given him the unique skill set and experience to provide practical solutions to the most complex and challenging situations across military, government, corporate and private sectors.

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In this week's episode, we're thrilled to have a dynamic lineup of guests! First up, we have an esteemed leader from the active-duty army who runs a fantastic leadership page. Dive into the fascinating world of leading, mentoring, and guiding troops as we explore profound levels of leadership theory and execution. This discussion is a treasure trove for anyone aspiring to lead, whether in the military or beyond. Check out @theleadershuddle for more insights!

Next, brace yourselves for a lively segment featuring three nursing students with zero military experience. Watch as they navigate a barrage of military trivia questions, bringing loads of laughter and jokes for everyone.

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast recorded in the gardens of the Australian War Memorial Canberra, I chat with Ant Plater a Veteran of the Australian Defence Force for 27 years, Begining his military career as an infantry soldier posting to the 1st Battalion Royal Australian Regiment (1RAR) however 17 of those years were with the 2nd Commando Regiment reaching the rank of Warrant Officer.

Ant had an extensive career within defence deploying to Somalia, Bougainville, East Timor, Iraq and Afghanistan also served in the Tactical Assault Group-East, and was the counter-terrorism advisor to the Australian Federal Police. Post military career Ant moved into the for fitness/sports industry and most recently working at the Canberra Raiders @raiderscanberra as a high performance consultant.

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I am joined with Malcolm Goodwin former 2nd Commando Regiment Australian Special Forces operator.

Malcolm joined the Australian Army in 2004 enlisting into Transport Corps and after completing training he was posted to  26 TPT SQN – Royal Australian Corp of Transport (RACT) After finding about the Australian special forces more specifically SASR he attempted SASR selection however was well under prepared and failed. After gaining more knowledge of the process and gaining better physical fitness he attempted 2 Commando selection in 2008 and passed moving onto his reinforcement cycle of special forces training in which he also completed. Posting to the 2nd Commando Regiment Malcolm deployed on multiple SOTG (Special Operations Task Group) rotations to Afghanistan which were highly Kinetic also during these trips he was involved in the fighting in at Shah Wali Kot Offensive where Ben Roberts Smith SASR was awarded the Victoria Cross. Post SOTG rotation he did also later on in his career deploy to Iraq to assist the Iraqi Army repel the advancement of ISIS. Let's GO!

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I have a chat with John Dixon former infantry and 2nd Commando Regiment operator.

John spent just shy of 17years in the Australian Army .During his postings at 1RAR and 6RAR he deployed to East Timor which gave him an introduction to military active deployments. After successfully completing SF selection and Commando training reinforcement cycle he was posted to Bravo Company 4RAR aka 2CDO. He soon deployed as an special forces operator to Afghanistan on a SOTG (Special Operations Task Group) on his first combat deployment. This led to further highly kinetic operations to Afghanistan both part of assault teams and sniper. We talk extensively about fighting the Taliban including being behind the trigger on multiple occasions from 2m out to 860m on the sniper rifle not to mention the filthy tactics the enemy used in country. He then deployed to Iraq and Philippines before discharging the military.

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I am joined in the studio chatting with Jason Kelly former Royal Australian Airforce Military Working Dog Hander and now owner of K9 Solutions Australia.

Jason had an extensive career as a dog handler in the RAAF which included a support posting to the SASR as a kennel master. During his posting out west he was deployed to Afghanistan again as the kennel master for the SASR working with handlers like Ryan Wilson and Andy White both SASR. Having undergone numerous domestic and international operational deployments, Jason has gained exceptional insight and a unique perspective on the world of working dogs.  passion Jason has for K9’s is out of this world and not to mention the drive to be the best handler/trainer he can be. After exiting the Australian military Jason has gone from strength to strength with his own business, producing highly trained dogs that are destined for difficult and dangerous roles with agencies and organisations within Australia and abroad.

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I chat with U.S. Army Special Operations Medal of Honor Recipient Master Sgt. Earl Plumlee.

Master Sgt. Earl Plumlee always wanted to be in the military. Influenced by Hollywood and his father’s service in Vietnam, Plumlee joined the Oklahoma National Guard while still in high school. With the help of a local sheriff, he joined the Marines after high school in the years before 9/11. Deployed to Okinawa, Plumlee spent the months after 9/11 longing to get into the action but missing his opportunities. Completing training as a reconnaissance Marine, Plumlee eventually deployed to Iraq with 4th Force Reconnaissance Company in 2005 and again in 2008.

On August 20, 2013 during a change of command ceremony on FOB Ghazni, Green Beret Earl Plumlee found himself facing a complex attack by a determined enemy force that had breached the perimeter and was approaching fast. Armed with his "super cool sniper rifle" and a side arm, MSG (then SFC) Plumlee took the fight to the enemy and miraculously survived nearly unscathed. This is the story of how MSG Plumlee and a handful of SOF warriors pushed back a devastating attack and the events that lead to MSG Plumlee being awarded the Medal of Honor.

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I am joined by Matt Eversmann retired US Army Ranger.

On October 3, 1993, Matt was placed in charge of a group of Army Rangers to lead a daytime raid against an eager enemy militia. Matt experienced the horrors of war when he and his fellow soldiers were trapped in a hostile district of Mogadishu and marked for death by an angry mob. His inspiring story of survival was immortalized in the epic film, Black Hawk Down, which recounts the harrowing experience. For his actions on the battlefield he was awarded the Bronze Star Medal with Valor device.

Matt returned from Somalia committed to teaching the next generation of warriors. During his remaining time in uniform, he worked at the Army War College, taught at The Johns Hopkins University and finally deployed to Iraq where he lived with the Iraqi Army for 15 months during The Surge. He remained on active duty until May of 2008, when he retired after 20 years of service. Let's GO!

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I’m joined in the studio with Arron Ferguson former 22 year NSW Police Detective and 24 year Australian Army 1st Commando Regiment Special Forces Operator. Arron joined the army first as a commando and two years later he was offered a spot on a deployment to Timor however at the same time the NSW Police offered a fulltime policing position at the academy which he took up. He lived a double life as both a Detective and army SF reserve soldier being involved in hundreds of domestic police investigations and then deployments to Timor and highly kinetic operations in Afghanistan as part of the special operations task force. He was forced into early retirement due to a genetic muscle disease which took a toll on his mental health and not to mention his physical capabilities

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My guest today is Gareth Lock.  Gareth spent 25 years in the Royal Air Force as a flight instructor, a navigator on C-130 Hercules, a systems engineer and a requirements manager. Following his retirement from the RAF in 2015 he started work in high-risk industries teaching Human Factors and Crew Resource Management (CRM).  Eventually Gareth turned his attention to diving, applying a military systems approach to diving risk management by creating an organization called The Human Diver which is focused on what they describe as Counter-Errorism. Specifically, Gareth and his team provides training globally to high reliability and high-risk organizations on leadership, culture, and practical measures to improve operator safety.  In 2019 Gareth led a team of military experts to undertake a review of UK military diving with the goal of improving diver safety. Gareth has worked with the US National Parks Service Submerged Resource Centre (Denver, CO), National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research Ltd (NZ), and the American Academy of Underwater Sciences (USA) to provide human factors training and high-performance team development courses.

Gareth is the author of the book Under Pressure – Diving Deeper with Human Factors which looks at case studies of near disasters and applies academic theory to understanding how we can better communicate and lead those in high risk/high reliability units.  

I am excited to have Gareth on because his views of human fallibility, although rooted in diving, have broad lessons to teach anyone who leads others, especially those working in high-risk areas.

Contact Information
www.thehumandiver.com 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethlock/ 

Links
Compliance provides an illusion of safety in diving

Dave Snowden’s paper on ‘Knowledge without context is meaningless’ – Complex acts of knowing. 

 Safety Culture & Trade-offs – Risk management in a dynamic society: a modelling problem – Jens Rasmussen paper 

 Red Teaming Thinking 

 Risk Savvy – Risk vs Uncertainty

 Interpersonal Skills Lab
 
The training I offer across multiple domains which has no/limited professional jeopardy

Blog about Learning from Near Misses. Were you lucky or good? 

 Local Rationality and Hindsight

On today's Zero Limits Podcast I chat with Mike Glover Former US Army Green Beret, CIA Contractor and CEO Field Craft Survival.

He has served in various positions during his 20 years in the US Army such as Weapons Sergeant, Sniper, Assaulter, JTAC, Freefall Jump Master, Sniper Team Sergeant, and Operations Sergeant Major in US Army Special Operations. Mike’s passion is in survival training which led to him start Fieldcraft Survival to offer a new perspective in the survival industry.

He is an expert in Counter-Terrorism, Security, and Crisis Management Operations and is the host of the Fieldcraft Survival Podcast.

After 20 years of service to this country in the highest of capacities, we talk about his experience as tomb guard, green beret, and Tier 1 operator. More importantly, we talk about how those experiences shaped who he is and how he brings that knowledge to your everyday citizen through his company, Fieldcraft survival.

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My guest today is Jordan Robison. This episode is a follow up to last week’s Critical Incident Review about the August 18, 2021, shooting that occurred when the San Bernardino Police Department’s SWAT Team attempted to arrest a suspect who had ambushed and attempted to murder a San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Deputy the day before. 

When the team performed a vehicle takedown the suspect immediately opened fire
on the team with a 10mm handgun, striking Jordan in both forearms, his shoulder, his femur, his stomach below the armor and a grazing wound to his ribs. He was also hit in the abdomen which was stopped by his armor.

 After last week’s episode we received several calls and emails asking about Jordan so we decided to do a follow up episode with him to discuss his recovery and his personal lessons learned. There is a great deal of very valuable information on this episode which we hope will help others who are affected by an on-duty shooting.

On August 18, 2021, the San Bernardino California SWAT Team was assigned to locate and arrest a suspect who had ambushed and attempted to murder a San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Deputy the day before. When the team located and attempted a vehicle takedown the suspect immediately opened fire on the team with a 10mm handgun, striking Officer Jordan Robison 8 times and Officer Chris Shipley once. Officer Robison was hit in both forearms, his shoulder, his femur, his stomach below the armor and a took grazing wound to his ribs. He was also hit twice in the abdomen which were stopped by his armor. 

Officer Shipley, despite being shot in the leg, was able to return fire along with a teammate fatally wounding the suspect.  Officer Shipley then rendered lifesaving medical aid to Officer Robison. SWAT Medic Spencer Brumbaugh was also on scene and provided lifesaving aid to Officer Robison immediately after the incident and through subsequent transport to the emergency room.

My guests today are Jordan Robison, Chris Shipley and Spencer Brumbaugh

Timestamps

1:25 - Introduction To The Incident

2:39 - Leadup To The Event

13:14 - Start Of The Takedown

15:00 - The Exits The Van 

17:18 -Jordan And Chris Are Shot 

21:00 -Chris Treats Jordan

25:50 -Chris Discusses Treating Jordan

28:00 -Spencer Treating Jordan's Injuries

40:35 -Getting To The ER

46:00 -The Need To Remain Calm

48:00 -Lessons Learned

56:20 -What The Tacmed Program Did Right

1:02:00 -Training For The Worse Case Scenario

1:12:19 - The Risk Of Complacency 

1:17:39 - Knowing Your Gear

1:21:00 - The Role Of Competition And Culture

1:23:41- Things They Would Do Differently

Description

My guest today is Bob Koonce. Bob is the founder of High Reliability Group, which he created after serving 20 years in the United States Navy. Bob's distinguished naval career included serving on five different nuclear fast attack submarines and culminated with him being given command of the USS Key West, a $2 billion nuclear-powered Los Angeles-class fast attack submarine. Following his retirement from the Navy, Bob has worked in a variety of leadership roles, primarily in the energy industry, where he has led business development, project management, and consulting efforts for large and small companies. Bob is an expert in the leadership of high-reliability organizations and a co-author of the book, "'Extreme Operational Excellence,' which focuses on the culture of the United States nuclear submarine force. Our conversation today focuses on utilizing specific techniques he learned in the nuclear submarine community to drive the culture of high reliability organizations. 

Contact Info

Bob Koonce

President and Founder

High Reliability Group LLC

312-859-9311

www.hrghro.com

linkedin.com/in/bobkoonce

Books Recommended

Extreme Operational Excellence: Applying the US Nuclear Submarine Culture to Your Organization: DiGeronimo, Matt, Koonce, Bob: 9781478778127: Amazon.com: Books

Amazon.com: The High-Velocity Edge: How Market Leaders Leverage Operational Excellence to Beat the Competition: 9780071741415: Steven J. Spear: Books

Timestamps
Timestamps
00:01:55 Nuclear Submarine Culture

00:10:50 Methods of Developing Positive Culture

00:15:30 Authority and High-Risk Decision Making

00:22:40 Importance and Reinforcement of Lessons Learned

00:31:15 Bob’s Most Important Habit

00:31:50 The Most Important Element of Building an Effective Team

00:32:13 What Should Every Leader Know?

Starting next week The Debrief will be introducing a new series called Battle Proven Leadership (or BPL). In contrast to the long format and wide-ranging interviews of The Debrief, BPL episodes will be shorter and deeply explore a single topic in leadership with a goal of providing specific/actionable information that you can use to improve your leadership skills. My guests will be subject matter experts who operate in high stress environments both inside and outside the tactical community. Regardless of whether your battlefield is a military, law enforcement, or business operation, each episode will expose you to the viewpoints, techniques and tactics of leaders whose skills have been proven in high risk operations with zero margin for error.

My guest today is John Mattingly. John is a retired Sgt. from the Louisville Police Department who led the search warrant service at the home of Breonna Taylor on March 13, 2020 and was shot in the leg by her boyfriend Kenneth Walker before returning fire along with another officer resulting in the death of Ms. Taylor. This event, of course, became a huge catalytic event for protests, riots, lawsuits, death threats against the officers and, tragically, the shooting of two more officers in response to the multi-day civil unrest that followed. It has also led to three of the officers involved in obtaining the warrant as well as one of the officers involved in the raid being charged with federal crimes. John has recently written a book called 12 Seconds in the Dark that documents the facts of the case from his perspective and discusses numerous issues that have not been discussed in the media.

Timestamps

3:15 John’s Career History

6:40 Background Of The Warrant

13:40 John’s First Involvement In The Case

17:35 The Night of The Warrant, Ad Hoc Team & Training for Narcotics Units in LMPD

24:40 Arrival at the Scene, Initial Scouting & Apartment Layout

31:55 Search Warrant Service Begins 42:00 Initial Aftermath of the Shooting

52:40 John's Injuries and Medical Treatment

56:35 Press aftermath and inaccuracy of reporting 01:05:20 Initial Response of City

01:12:10 Lessons Learned – Training

01:18:50 Lessons Learned – Knock & Notice, Culture & Complacency

01:29:00 Lessons Learned – Narco Teams v. SWAT Teams and Body Warn Cameras

01:32:30 Lessons Learned – Agency Response to These Types of Events

01:37:00 John’s Cautionary Advice To Young Cops Working Narco

01:40:50 The Need for Debriefs to Avoid Complacency

Links
City of Louisville Investigative Files
NY Times Investigation

On today's Zero Limits Podcast I chat with Shaun Kober former infantry sniper from the 5th Battalion Royal Australian Regiment.

Shaun left home at the age of 14, without completing high school, and went into the workforce where he worked as a labourer for many years. In 2003, as a 17-year-old who had been out of home already for a number of years, he was offered a form of scholarship to play rugby in Sydney, Australia. Shaun returned to Darwin, Northern Territory three years later with the intent to join the Australian Army as an infantry soldier and enlisted in March 2006

Shaun a former sniper and decorated soldier who had a six-year stint in the Army until March 2012, including tours to Iraq in 2007, East Timor in 2008 and Afghanistan 2011. He also awarded a “Commendation for Gallantry” for actions under fire in Afghanistan. He has represented Australia in a Defence Force Rugby World Cup, along with many other representative duties, including Captaining both the Northern Territory and Tasmanian rugby teams at National and International tournaments.

Shaun is currently a head strength and conditioning coach in Thailand. Due to this highly regarded position, he has been focussed on preparing high level fighters for bouts in the UFC, Bellator, ONE championship, and other world class combat based organisations

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On today's Zero Limits Podcast I chat with Trung Nguyen former 75th Ranger Regiment and Chicago Police Department SWAT. 

Trung immigrated to Chicago at 3 years old from Vietnam post war and had a interaction with a police officer at the age of 14 in the hood that ultimately left a good impression on him with him altering the direction in which his life was headed. Trung enlisted into the US Army with a ranger contract. Trung completed ranger training got his tan beret and posted to 2nd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. Trung deployed twice to Iraq  and was involved in multiple direct action operations. Upon return of his second deployment he discharged and pursed a career as a police officer starting in Chicago and then moving to the LAPD. After about two years he moved back to Chicago PD and successfully became a CPD SWAT OFFICER.  Trung also talks about life in law enforcement and his methods and mindset for continual training and progression. We also discuss his tribute project and website, "WE GO HOME."
 Let's GO!

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