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Is it just us or was this the most boring Men Tell All episode of all time? And yes, even the bloopers were boring.

Kate and Marcie discuss Michael's departure, the random Kaitlyn and Jason proposal story they sprinkled in, and of course - CAT GUY.

And what does that last line "I want someone to book my flight home" mean? Listen in!

1. Welcome to another week of  Bachademia. This week we have a returning guest, Dr. Kristi Marchesani. 
2. Question of the week: What is your favorite summer foo
3. Then Tayshia introduces Blake and the guys are not happy..
4. The date - they ride horses, they agree they like to travel. What do we think about their chemistry?
5. Group date: Murder Ball
   1. Bill’s XC on disclosure in friendships
   2. Aaron decides it is time to pick someone new to dislike and decides it is Hunter.
   3. Danielle EC on gossip and gender.
   4. Hunter gets the rose, do we think sharing his family story helped him in this case?
6. Andrew gets a one-on-one and Katie borrows Catwoman's outfit for the date.
7. Cocktail Party
   1. The dress and the poll.
   2. Who got roses: Blake, Hunter, and Andrew S. are joined by Greg, Aaron, Michael, Connor the cat, James the box, Justin, Mike, Brendan (who the heck is Brendan?), and Tre
   3. Who went home: Andrew, Quartney, Josh
8. Lesson learned from the episode?
9. Kristi, shoutouts, final thoughts, words of wisdom?

The “Cinephile Cuties” are ready to be rich Europeans. That’s because they’re chatting about Éric Rohmer’s Claire's Knee. A *CONTENT WARNING* for this episode. Casey and Patrick discuss an older man’s predatory behavior towards young girls. The hosts try their best to handle the subject with as much care as possible. In addition to that, Casey and Patrick put the film through their proprietary Fartsy Test. And Patrick recommends a drink pairing. 

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1. Welcome to Bachademia. Bill is on a wilderness adventure. He set up some creepy thing that lets people track him and last time I tried it, I got an error message, so I hope Bill didn’t get eaten by a bear. In his absence, we have the wonderful, the witty, co-host Kim Hanna ! 
2. Question of the week: if you could ban any fashion trend, what would you ban?
3. This episode was full of interesting fashion choices, from Katie’s sparkly plaid coat/dress to Brendon’s bangs. However, the episode began with a recap of the Thomas drama before swiftly moving us into the Truth of Dare group date. 
4. The evening portion of the group date: Truth.
5. Tre/Andrew S feud. 
6. Blake M. enters the picture. Thoughts about all this?
7. Thomas visits Katie. She says, “I’m talking.” Thomas says he was demonstrated?
8. Cocktail party. 
9. Rose ceremony.
   1. Who went home? Thomas. Christian (boo! I liked him). Conor C. (who dat?) David (also who dat?) 
   2. Who is still here that we don’t really know:
      1. Andrew M.
      2. Brenden Bangs
      3. Hunter
      4. James
      5. Justin
      6. Quartney
      7. Josh
      8. James
   3. Whose left we do know
      1. Greg
      2. Connor
      3. Mike
      4. Michael
      5. Blake
      6. Of these: who are your front runners?

TV Shows and Films we talked about:

Beast Wars (1996) / Beasties (1998) 

Rick and Morty (2013)

Attack on Titan (2013)

The Bachelor (2002) / The Bachelorette (2003)

Sexy Beast (2021) 

• Special guest, making her second appearance on Bachademia: Aunt B, otherwise known as Briana McGeough, an assistant professor at the University of Kansas in the School of Social Welfare. 
• Question of the week: If you were on the Bachelor/ette for the wrong reason, what would that reason be? 
• So this episode starts with Karl’s accusation that men are there for the wrong reason. Katie decides to call the evening short and move right to the rose ceremony. She steps away for a moment. Greg checks on her. Karl air boxes. Again. The men unionize, i think. Someone said, “We have a responsibility as a unit to protect the Queen.” Like, folx, are we watching the Bachelor or Shadow and Bone. What show is this? 
• Rose ceremony. Mike P. starts talking unsurprisingly about his duty to protect her. Then he very dramatically interrupts the rose ceremony to call Karl out--- as a unit. 
  • Who goes home? Karl, Kyle, John, 
• Group date: The men are freaked out because she signed it “…” instead of heart Katie. Y’all. That’s some 7th grade level stuff.
• The story circle is led by Nick Veill. The prompt is to tell  stories about things you are not  so  proud of. 
  • Katie discloses that she was sexually assaulted (TRIGGER WARNING, this content does contain conversations about sexual consent and assault ). 
  • Katie talks about how she has had to work to develop her sex positive viewpoint post assault. Briana can you tell us a little bit about sex positivity? Briana Extra Credit.
• Then we see the men sitting on workout mats back where they are staying, and Michael tells his story. This is an example of unprompted disclosure. Thoughts about this moment especially as contrasted to the story circle?
  • Danielle EC: Storytelling, Identity, and Performative Vulnerability.
• The show moves back to the evening portion of the group date. Katie is wearing a very big suit jacket over her dress. 
• Michael A. gets the date card. 
• Aaron is still talking about Thomas. Normal reaction or a bit over the top?
• The men really seem united this season. The episode ends with the men confronting Thomas. Thomas admits that he has thought about becoming the Bachelor. Honest, dumb? His honesty isn’t the problem, it feels like he is using honesty in some sort of sketchy way. Nick Viall said something oddly insightful: “I don't’ think Thomas said anything wrong in the group, what he did wrong was he always talked to Katie about their relationship, not with Katie about their relationship.” 
• Predictions about what happens next?
• Lessons learned this episode?
• Briana any shout outs? Last words?

Trigger warning: In this episode, we talk about sexual assault in the context of Katie’s discussion of it in this week’s episode of The Bachelorette. This discussion starts around 40:00.

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It’s so difficult to unionize the Bachelorette contestants because of high turnover and the fact that they aren’t technically employees, but solidarity finds a way. Last night, not for the first time and hopefully not for the last, the show’s contestants tried to come together as one unit to meet management at the bargaining table.

It was a beautiful moment for unions, but also a brief one. Today we will chart the rise and fall of this Bachelorette union, which quickly fell apart once the men were made aware that they couldn’t negotiate to each have a full Katie.

We’re joined today by Bachelor alum, blogger, and opera singer Sharleen Joynt and her husband and cohost of their fantastic podcast, Dear Shandy, Andy Levine!

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The “Cinephile Cuties” are ready to stab themselves in the shoulder with a kitchen knife. That’s because they’re chatting about Michael Haneke’s The Piano Teacher. In this episode, Patrick gets upset because he does not like basketball anymore. And Casey proposes a shell forward poster. Plus, the Cuties put the film through their proprietary Fartsy Test. And Patrick recommends a drink pairing. 

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• This week’s guest UNI alumni in Geography, Charcey Petersen! 
• Question of the week: Worst family vacation you have been on?
• One word to describe this week’s episode?
• Karl is being loud and obnoxious, people are turning on him. 
• First date, we are really leaning into Katie’s sex positive outlook. The guys have to explain how they will be the greatest lover of all time. 
• Greg gets a 1-on-1
  • Bill’s XC over shared experience and commonalities
• Katie’s Belt Buckle Brawl
  • E.C. (Danielle) Katie seemed to think she could detect Cody’s lie. He was too polished in his response. Can we tell if people are lying? The research says, nope. 
• Final cocktail party….
  • Green is Katie’s color
  • Michael discloses he is a single dad and Katie digs it.
  • Karl decides to start some ish and starts declaring dudes are not there for the right reasons, the guys are like Karl just worry about Karl, but Karl choses violence. 
• Ok so one takeaway statement from the episode?
• Charcey, thanks for coming, any shoutouts? 

1. Welcome to Bachademia! On Monday, the Bachelorette premiered with Katie as the lead! We are excited for a wild season. We do not have a guest with us today, just Danielle and Bill here. It is summer. We are in summer mode-- which means we don’t have our shit together. But we are delightful and promise mildly witty commentary and a few academic-y facts for your listening pleasure.
2. Question of the week? what is your go to ice cream flavor?
3. Like a summer’s day, the episode begins hot. Not really, I just thought that seemed like a clever transition. The episode begins with Katie talking about being chosen to be the Bachelorette and she explains what she is looking for. Bill, did any of this stand out to you? 
4. They show a quick sneak peak of the guys and then we cut to Katie waiting for the men to pull up in the limo. Nothing happens and then Tashia and Kaitlyn sneak up on her. There are a few things to note here:
5. Thomas is the first out of the limo. The show really shows more tame entrances first. We have Thomas, Aaron, Andrew, and David. All a bit blah. 
6. Then we get a little bit silly with Miachel who pretends to give Katie a family heirloom and then Tre who has balls in the back of his truck. 
7. Greg is next. They have what I think is a pretty awkward interaction, she says that he looks like one of her exes. Eeeeeeh? 
8. Then a bunch of boring entries: John, Garett, Austin, Marty, Landon, Karl, Josh, 
9. Andrew came in an old car and then faked an accent that he claims is his alter ego. 
10. Brandon came in on a moped. I can’t get over his entire vibe. That hair is a mood.  
11. So the entrances start getting weird here: Kyle pulls out his underwear or something, Hunter appropriately given his name has a fish. Jeff has his camper. Marcus boring. Cody brings in a blow up doll. 
12. Justin and Christian come in with the sex puns.. Justin being a painter talks about strokin it, Christian wants her to rub one out or something about a genie. Quartney has a whole speech memorized with sex puns. 
13. Cat boy. Connor is dressed as a cat. The other men throw him shade. 
14. So after all the limo entrances (btw- we still have the dude in a box/present. I still don’t get this) Katie goes in and welcomes the men. I felt like her speech compared to others, namely Matt’s was very different. In fact, it made me realize how not compatible her and Matt were.
15. She mentions that the Bachelor process is a weird one (she believes in it; but it is weird). Is the Bachelor process super weird? 
16. Who stood out to you during the after party? We have Thomas who was super serious. Greg who was a bit bumbling but seems genuine. Tre is awesome but do they have a romantic connection? Justin, the painter, goes in for a kiss. Jeff, who totally has an Owen Wilson vibe, skeezes her out with his dirty camper. 
17. DRAMA. What happened between Arron and Connor? I did not get any of that but it left me not trusting Aaron. 
18. James is the box. Seriously what did he hope to accomplish with this. Also, I know people find him handsome but I think he looks suspicious. 
19. Who went home: Austin, Brandon, Gabriel (he had weird vibes man; he was the long hugger), Jeff, Landon, Marcus, and Marty. Were any of these surprises for you?
20. It seems like this season will get intense

It’s that time of year. 82% humidity in the 90-degree air, hordes of shrieking cicadas roaming the Eastern Seaboard, the dawning realization that you waited too long to reinstall your window AC unit — and, of course, the return of The Bachelorette.

Now with 100% less Chris Harrison and 100% more forced references to sex toys! That’s right, Katie Thurston’s season premiere, baby. We’re here to dig into it with our wonderful guest, Molly Bernard!

The “Cinephile Cuties” are ready to accept that rose! That’s because they’re spending a few minutes talking about the finale of ‘The Bachelor.’ For this special capsule episode, Patrick and Casey turn their backs on arthouse cinema to talk about another American art form; reality television. Patrick and Casey dissect the recent controversies surrounding ‘The Bachelor’ franchise and how Chris Harrison disdains practical advice. Let us know if you enjoy this episode!

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*sigh*

*SIGH*

*SIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH*

Was that me or Matt James? Who knows anymore, the sighs all blend together.

This episode of After The Final Rose was fucking depressing and maybe this episode of Bachelor Massacre is too. We prolly talk more about race stuff than love stuff but that is the season that we were dealt. And perhaps that is a good thing in a way. You be the judge! I'm just trying to stay out of court.

Shout out Emmanuel Acho for taking the reigns, asking the tough questions, wearing a turtleneck, and stretching that suit to the limit.

In a nutshell: Michelle and Katie are the new Bachelorettes (but not at the same time). Rachael loves Matt. Matt hates Rachael. And talk shows without a studio audience are weird. Good night, America!

What's next for Bachelor Massacre? We don't even know but hopefully BIP is right around the corner ... 🤞

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When they said this season was going to be "groundbreaking" I didn't think they meant that it would make me want to break a hole in the ground and crawl into it. Ooof.

Amanda and I were really rooting for Matt James in the beginning of this season but he turned out to be yet another man-child scared of commitment, at least, if that's what his mom wants him to be. He often expressed how much he cared about "the women" on his season but mostly just told them what they wanted to hear and thanked them for sharing their feelings whilst rarely reciprocating (though we do acknowledge that Matt's behavior overall was perhaps constrained by the role he had to fill as "America's first Black Bachelor", which he discussed at length on After The Final Rose.) Our love of frontrunner Rachael Kirkconnell was also spoiled, Michelle "The Obvious Choice" Young was harshly dumped at the last minute, and Bri Springs was also cast aside and perhaps will be leaving Bachelor Nation for good. And let's not even talk about Abigail Herringer.

The clear star of this episode was Matt's brother John. You can learn more about him and his "rap career" here. (Maybe it's harsh to put rap career in quotes but as a washed up rapper, I have OPINIONS.)

Matt may have left with Rachael, but what happened next? We suggest you watch After The Final Rose for the whole story or you can listen to our next episode about it and kind of get some idea of what happened if we can stop talking about Emmanuel Acho for 5 minutes.

It was a sad ending to a promising but disappointing season. We thank YOU, our loyal listeners, for helping us get through it all. Please do everything you can to support us (short of opening your wallets because we aren't ready to ask you to do that yet) and write us some reviews and give us all the stars and tell your friends to listen. Without you, we don't exist: if a podcast falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound????? I would say NO.

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• This week’s guest is Dr. Adrianne Finlay. Professor of English and the Program Director of Creative Writing at Upper Iowa University in Fayette, Iowa. 
• Question: What is something that other people are into that you could live without?
• Episode in a word
• The episode begins with snippets from each of the women reflecting on their relationship with Matt as well as their thoughts on the fantasy suites. 
• After the women reflect on the week ahead, Matt and his dad have a personal and difficult conversation. 
  • Danielle’s XC on Engaged Fatherhood and race.
  • Do we know Matt James?
• Michelle gets weird with food
• Bri Pitches a tent
  • Bill’s XC: Family patterns, attraction, and relationship patterns
• Rachael cries...
• Rose ceremony. Bri doesn’t get a rose. 
• Episode in a sentence
• Adrianne shoutouts? 

Dang! I miss the days of just talking about what a bitch Queen Victoria was. Now we actually have to deal with some serious emotions as things get very real for all the contestants and even Matt himself. Say what you will about this season's Bachelor, but the scene with his dad was legit moving and if you didn't get in your feelings over it YOU HAVE NO SOUL.

We are down to 3 women: Rachael (sexy and simple), Michelle (athletic and awesome), and Bri (the beautiful boss). All of them are in love with Matt, like, for real. It doesn't feel like anyone is here for Instagram likes at this point, everyone feels very invested. Sir Matt-A-Lot has attempted to "save" all of them, so they all FEEL SPECIAL. (Or in Bachelor speak ... he has "seen" them?)

In this ep we cry with Matt and his father (Shoes + Pizza ≠ Dad), I compare Matt to the child of a serial killer, Mandy compares the escalating quality of the fantasy suites, and we both wonder what happened to the rest of Rachael's shirt. Michelle is the obvious choice here but will lust, a skydiving accident, and pair of sleepy eyes prevail? One thing we all can agree on: BRI SPRINGS FOR BACHELORETTE 2021 OR WE ARE BURNING THIS MF TO THE GROUND 🔥🔥🔥

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I'm too tired to write a witty description of this episode but let's just say that The Women Tell All was a bit ho-hum seeming. I would have preferred a darker shade of lipstick on Serena C, but that's just me. Mandy would have liked to have seen a dang oil treatment on MJ's hair because that shit looked brittle, which I think is how I like blonde hair since I am attracted to farmers, and subsequently, hay. MJ could never be a farmer though because she is afraid of chickens and eggs. Mari really fought for her spot on BIP by acting like she was a relevant contestant but we personally don't give her much airtime. Unfortunately, we do talk about Victoria a lot, from her non-apologies to her aquatic jumpsuit to her use of the word "literally", which struck a chord with my co-host Amanda "Literally, bro. Literally!" Alvarez.

It was also a reminder of how much good stuff gets edited out in favor of drama and fighting. At this point, aren't we all just hate-watching this shit?

Do y'all think that some of this season's women were particularly bad? The term "mean girls" seems to have really stuck to a certain group of them. Let us know if you think they were victims of a bad edit or BAD CREDIT, uknowhatimsayin??? Obviously, all the toxic behavior was purposely highlighted, but do you think it was blown out of proportion? Or are some of these ladies just evil?

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• Guest: Megan Vogt-Kostner UNI Alumni, Employee and all-around great person. 
• Question of the week: What irreplaceable skill would bring to a group during the Zombie apocalypse?
• Episode in one word?
• Pre-Recorded Episode - Emmanuel Acho - "Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man" will host after the Final Rose
• MJ & Jessenia 
• Victoria (hail be thy queen)
  • Danielle XC - Language and gender
• Katie says girls are getting karma (not sure this is how Karma actually works)
• Brittany & Anna 
• Abigail
• Pieper gets blindsided
• Serena P.
  • Bill’s XC - Anatomy of a breakup
• Matt
  • Didn’t know you close your eyes when you kiss????
  • Pancake eating, beer chugging, bug/ring searching, Kit’s poor hide and seek skills, and egg drinking skills
• Predictions? Who does he choose? Does he choose anyone?
• Episode in a statement?
• MVK shoutouts

Hey all. J Waves here. Last week was a mess as far as getting this show done. Monday night I was hit with an epic case of strep throat and my tonsils looked like scorched earth with gravel and scabs poured on it. 8 edibles, 6 pain pills, half a bottle of "severe" NyQuil, and some Amoxicillin later, I am doing much better. But in the brief window between Hometowns and The Women Tell All, Mandy had a birthday which she needed to celebrate all weekend long.

So last night, before recording our TWTA ep, we pieced together a short odyssey of what we remembered about the Hometowns episode which apparently was not much. I still have a craving for ham after Serena P's Canadian field trip and quiz. Serena, please call me soon, I'd love to hear more about the land of maple leaves and gravy. Serena C, I'd love to hear from you as well. You can tell me about "yummm" and "Daddy".

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