Once when my eldest son was about five years old, we happened to be reading the first chapter of Mark’s Gospel when we came upon the account of a man with an unclean spirit. My son asked me what that meant. I didn’t know how to answer so I said: “What do you think?” He didn’t know. So we read it again. He noticed that the unclean spirit did not want to be near Jesus, and he knew that Jesus was God with us. I asked my son, “well, what do you think an unclean spirit is now?” And he replied: “I guess it is wanting to live in the world without God.”

My guest today on the show is not a five year old child, but rather Gary Anderson, the Hesburgh Professor of Catholic Thought in the Department of Theology at the University of Notre Dame. We are going to talk about his read of the show Breaking Bad and its central character, Walter White, whom Professor Anderson sees as a profile in the determined resolution to live in the world without God. But unlike the unclean spirit in Mark’s Gospel, Walter White doesn’t even acknowledge God or recognize the possibility of his presence. For him, “there is nothing but chemistry here.”

My conversation with Professor Anderson follows a lecture that he delivered for a conference on the shows Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul that was hosted at Notre Dame in May of 2023. His lecture at the conference bore the title “Science and Marriage in the Life of Walter White.”

Follow up Resources:

●     Webpage for “Gilligan’s Archipelago” conference, where videos from each of the five lectures will be posted when available.

●     “Men and Women in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, with Francesca Murphy” podcast episode via Church Life Today

●     “God Doesn’t Break Bad in the Old Testament,” essay by Gary Anderson in Church Life Journal

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The study of moral choice, character, and identity in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul was unprecedented in TV drama. Many experienced the two TV series as a journey through Dante’s underworld, even through to his Purgatorio. In a recent conference at the University of Notre Dame, five scholars of theology and philosophy analyzed various dimension of the moral and spiritual imagination in these two dramas. The name of the conference, as play on the name of the show’s creator Vince Gilligan, was “Gilligan’s Archipelago: Justice and Mercy in Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.”

 My guest today is the convener of the conference, who also delivered a conference lecture on “Men and Women in Gilligan’s Archipelago.” Francesca Murphy is professor of theology here at the University of Notre Dame. She is the author of many books and articles. She is one of my favorite lecturers and someone I’ve had the joy of working with in a number of lecture series and conferences, including one on C. S. Lewis’s Chronicles of Narnia, which became a book we both contributed to called Chronicles of Transformation: A Spiritual Journey with C. S. Lewis (Ignatius, 2022). Today we’ll talk about the question of manhood in Breaking Bad, womanhood in Better Call Saul, and what makes one show an infernal comedy and the other a purgatorial comedy.

Follow up Resources:

• Webpage for “Gilligan’s Archipelago” conference, where videos from each of the five lectures will be posted when available.
•  “The Macbeth of Meth,” essay on Walter White in Breaking Bad by Paul Cantor
• “Evangelizing through Film and Television, with Doug Tooke” podcast episode via Church Life Today

This episode is sponsored by The CatholicTV Network on YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/CatholicTV

Church Life Today is a partnership between the McGrath Institute for Church Life at the University of Notre Dame and OSV Podcasts from Our Sunday Visitor. Discover more ways to live, learn, and love your Catholic faith at osvpodcasts.com. Sharing stories, starting conversations.

We're done...when I say we're done.........but seriously...this is the last season. Soooo we're done!

Today the guys sadly finish their series on, arguably, the greatest show to ever be on tv. Breaking Bad! Were they all happy about how it ended? Were the guys team Walt? Or team Jesse? Why is Todd so easy to hate? Find out their thoughts right here!

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Who’s writing these musical arrangements? What’s a Power Ranger to a god? And does this episode pass the Whiplash test? We rush through these questions and more as we watch Season 5, Episode 23 of Family Matters.

Alex Diamond, David Kenny, and John McDaniel heard that the long-running network sitcom Family Matters ends with side character Steve Urkel going to space. And the best way to figure out how that happened - obviously - is to watch the last episode first and make our way backwards through nearly ten years of television.

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The end of an era. From Breaking Bad to El Camino -- and now -- Better Call Saul -- we say goodbye to the Gilliganverse.

Better Call Saul had a tough task ahead of it after Breaking Bad ended so we brought on Miles to discuss how it followed up one of the greatest shows of all time.

We talk about the series as a whole, the finale and the last season in general so we can finally figure out who Jimmy McGill is. Is he Saul Goodman? James McGill? Gene Takovic? Maybe he's all three.

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It's for My Family by Walter White

The other day, Dr. Jon and I were sitting and chatting, when all of a sudden we received a journal from someone. And that someone was no rando, it was the one, the only Walter White.

This was his journal:
'When I found out that I had cancer, I knew that what I wanted was to provide for my family.To give them a life. To give Walt Jr. a future. And I threw it all away when I gave up my stake in Gray Matter...for $5000. My birthright for a month's worth of rent. Imagine that. So today, I turn to the one thing I am good at to make that future...to make that life happen. I turn to chemistry. Me and that Pinkman kid started small but when that money...that real money started to roll in...I started to see that the future that I want for my family is possible. Now...it’s not without it’s problems. Some may say that what I am doing is hurting a lot of people, but if what I do is for my family. Is that so wrong? Now, I know you’re supposed to be one of these coach type experts, but my situation is unique. I doubt that you have seen my kind here before. So coach... here I am...asking for your help. Am I wrong to do something that may be wrong, to make a future for my family?'

How the heck did we respond and offer some coaching? 

Let's take a listen...

Estranged brothers have strange powers in this strange movie from the mind of Vince Gilligan.

Directed by Glen Gordon Caron. Written by Vince Gilligan. Starring Arliss Howard, Dennis Quaid, Debra Winger, M. Emmett Walsh & Jim Varney

How is the world wrong about this movie?

From Bryan: Sadly this movie was shelved and released few years later to little to no fanfare. I love this movie! It has an odd comedic/supernatural tone way ahead of its time, courtesy of a brilliant script from future Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan. Dennis Quaid is having great fun here. He’s a well respected actor, but I feel he doesn’t get the credit he should for his bigger, crazier performance, like the one he gifts us here. Oh! Did I mention this also stars Jim Varney as a Carny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Episode 3 of 2009 is a supersized episode! Not only is Dave back once again to join Pete and Brad, but Giff makes it all four of your favorite hosts at once! We are talking about Breaking Bad. This is the year Dave discovered the show, and he was hooked immediately. We dive into all aspects of the series, but for discussion purposes, he chose the season five episode “Dead Freight” as our main focus.This is a fantastic episode that really encompassed all the best aspects of the series, and we have a great time breaking it down. From favorite characters (which changes all the time) all the way down to Skyler (yuck) and Todd (yikes), we’ve got you covered. And if you haven’t watched, we don’t give everything away. In fact, Pete hasn’t watched the series, and did just fine with this one.

Following up on Breaking Bad, we get into our all-time favorite non-comedy shows. Among the four of us, it is an expansive and varied list. None of them are the same. We also discuss our favorite TV shows of 2009 as well to cap things off. Is this one of our finest episodes yet? You’re goddamn right! 

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You may not recognize the name, but Alex Gianopoulos is a location scout for shows like AMC’s Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul; and other projects filmed in New Mexico.

The idea to interview Gianopoulos came from a work trip to Albuquerque, NM where I drove past the house that was used as an exterior for Walter White’s (Bryan Cranston) home. As I gazed upon the residence, I wondered why this house had been chosen over all the others in the area. It made me think – what goes into selecting locations for a film or television project? Before I even knew his name, I knew Gianopoulos was someone I wanted to have on as a guest.

Listening to Gianopoulos, I became captivated by the insider references to iconic scenes. For example: the train heist from the season five episode titled “Dead Freight.” Hopefully fans of Breaking Bad will enjoy this conversation as much as I did.