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    225 | Michael Tomasello on The Social Origins of Cognition and Agency

    enJanuary 30, 2023
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    • Streamline Hiring with Indeed and Save Money with Rocket MoneyIndeed helps employers find high-quality candidates efficiently, while Rocket Money assists users in managing subscriptions and saving an average of $720 per year

      When it comes to hiring, using a platform like Indeed can save time and provide high-quality candidates. Instead of searching for candidates, Indeed's matching engine helps streamline the process. With over 350 million monthly visitors, Indeed is a go-to resource for employers looking to fill positions quickly and effectively. Additionally, personal finance management is essential, and Rocket Money is a helpful tool in managing subscriptions and reducing unnecessary expenses. By identifying and canceling unwanted subscriptions, users can save an average of $720 per year. In the realm of understanding human nature, Michael Tomasello, a leading researcher in the field, emphasizes the importance of human sociability in making us unique from other animals. His research explores the ways in which human beings cooperate and interact, leading to the development of morality and obligation. By examining the similarities and differences between humans and other animals, we can gain a deeper understanding of what makes us distinct.

    • Understanding human uniqueness through studying humans and apesTomasello's research explores similarities and differences between humans and apes, emphasizing the importance of shared intentionality and cooperative communication in human language development, setting us apart from other great apes.

      Michael Tomasello, a leading thinker in the field of human development and evolution, emphasizes the importance of studying both human children and great apes to understand the unique intersection of individuality and group dynamics that makes us special. Tomasello's research methodology involves making studies as similar as possible between humans and apes, while acknowledging the inherent interest in exploring similarities and differences. Despite some critics' insistence on human-ape similarities, Tomasello argues that there must be distinct differences that have contributed to humanity's success as the dominant large mammal. He emphasizes the significance of shared intentionality and cooperative communication in human language development, which sets us apart from other great apes. Tomasello's work encourages us to explore the complex interplay between individuality and group dynamics in both humans and apes to better understand what makes us unique.

    • Human Social Interaction Sets Us Apart from ChimpanzeesHumans collaborate, communicate, and socially learn in ways that other great apes cannot, due to unique social skills developed through cultural teaching and social interaction.

      While chimpanzees and humans share many similarities, there is a unique aspect to human social interaction that sets us apart. This unique social skill allows humans to collaborate, communicate, and socially learn from each other in ways that other great apes cannot. This is evident in tasks that require advanced cognitive abilities, such as algebra or language, which humans develop through social interaction and cultural teaching, but which chimpanzees do not naturally possess. The human experimenter's role in studies comparing chimpanzee and human performance is crucial in identifying meaningful differences, as negative findings in studies where the methodology is similar for both species can provide valuable insights into what makes us uniquely human.

    • The flexibility of human intelligence to understand complex concepts through symbols and interaction with othersHuman intelligence evolves through interaction with others and symbolic manipulation, enabling us to understand complex concepts like the laws of physics from multiple perspectives.

      Human cognition and understanding, particularly in the realm of complex concepts like the laws of physics, have evolved in interaction with others and through symbolic manipulation. This flexibility and ability to view objects or concepts from different perspectives is a unique aspect of human intelligence. While we can manipulate symbols and concepts on our own, they were learned and refined through interaction with others and the cultural history of our species. This is evident in the way we learn languages, which require social interaction and the use of symbols to communicate. The speaker's example of learning a new language with the Babbel app illustrates this point, as the app helps individuals connect with others and learn the symbols and concepts necessary for effective communication. Ultimately, the ability to understand the world through symbols and to view concepts from different perspectives is a crucial aspect of human intelligence, one that has evolved through our interactions with others and our cultural history.

    • The Evolution of Modern Humans: A Gradual ProcessFrom bipedal apes to modern humans, our evolution involved brain growth, tool use, and cultural development over several million years. Key transitions, like collaborative foraging and hunting, occurred around 1 million years ago.

      The development of modern humans, Homo sapiens, is a complex process that took place over several million years. For the first few million years, our ancestors were bipedal apes with brains similar in size to modern apes. Around 2.5 million years ago, the use of simple stone tools emerged, followed by a slight increase in brain size. However, the key transition point was around 1 million years ago, when collaborative foraging and hunting began, leading to the emergence of cultural groups and the development of more sophisticated tools. The idea of a theory of mind, or the ability to understand other people's thoughts and opinions, is not something that leaves fossil evidence, but studies suggest that chimps and other primates have some understanding of mental states. The exact timeline of these developments is still a subject of ongoing research. Additionally, it's important to note that there was another significant brain growth spurt around 500,000 years ago. And while the idea of a conventional language is often associated with modern humans, it's likely that it emerged much later in our evolutionary history. Overall, the evolution of modern humans was a gradual process that took place over several million years, with key transitions happening relatively recently in our timeline. Lastly, don't miss out on the opportunity to save up to 60% on your Babbel subscription. Visit babbel.com/mindscape to learn more.

    • Understanding Common Ground Knowledge in Human CommunicationCommon ground knowledge enables humans to coordinate actions, decisions, and thoughts through language, facilitating cooperation and social interaction.

      Human communication and collaboration are built on a foundation of common ground knowledge, which involves the ability to understand and coordinate our perspectives, intentions, and mental states with others. This goes beyond the basic understanding of other individuals' goals and perceptions shared by great apes, and is necessary for the recursive embedding of thought and communication that characterizes human social interaction. This common ground knowledge allows us to coordinate our actions, decisions, and even our thoughts, and is facilitated by the use of language. While it's possible that the development of theory of mind and recursive thinking could have evolved for competitive purposes, cooperation requires a greater degree of mental alignment and the ability to make one's thoughts perspicuous to others. The importance of language in communication is not denied, but rather seen as a tool that flows from this fundamental social skill.

    • The origins of human communication predate languageHumans relied on gestures for communication before language emerged, and our ability to communicate is rooted in concepts, imitation, and the conventionalization of earlier forms of communication.

      Before the development of language, humans relied on gestures like pointing and iconic gestures or pantomime for communication. These gestures were not conventional symbol systems but rather a "halfway house" to language, as they depended on the shared knowledge or "common ground" between communicators. Pointing, for instance, could indicate a spear-making material or delicious berries, depending on the context. While language is crucial for human cognitive capacities and development, it is not the starting point for communication. Instead, it builds upon earlier forms of communication and is a result of the conventionalization of these forms. The speaker, who wrote a book on the evolution of human communication, disagrees with the idea of an innate language capacity as proposed by Noam Chomsky and Steven Pinker. Instead, they believe humans are biologically prepared to communicate through concepts, imitate others, and use language, but the specific grammatical structures are not innate.

    • Acknowledging criticisms and limitations of 'Language Instinct'Pinker's perspective on language and cognition goes beyond the evolutionary psychology focus on specific modules, emphasizing the importance of understanding complex behaviors as part of a larger system, and highlighting the role of social and cultural interactions in shaping our thinking and abilities.

      While "Language Instinct" by Steven Pinker is a groundbreaking book that popularized the study of language and its innate aspects, Pinker himself acknowledges some criticisms and limitations. He agrees with much of the evolutionary psychology perspective but finds it overly focused on specific modules, such as mate choice, and too narrow in its view of human cognition. Instead, Pinker suggests that we consider humans as organized cognitively hierarchically, with the need for collaboration leading to the development of cognitive, communicative, and moral capacities. This perspective emphasizes the importance of understanding complex behaviors as part of a larger system, rather than as isolated modules. Pinker's view also highlights the role of social and cultural interactions in shaping our thinking and abilities. Overall, his work encourages a more holistic approach to understanding human evolution and cognition.

    • The human brain's long development and dependency on parents are adaptations for complex behaviorsThe human brain's long development and dependency on parents are adaptations for complex behaviors like social institutions, language, theory of mind, and mathematics, enabling effective collaboration for food acquisition

      Humans' evolution did not result in separate adaptations for various complex behaviors, such as social institutions, language, theory of mind, or mathematics. Instead, these behaviors are interconnected and form part of a larger organizational system that helps humans collaborate to solve problems, particularly in regards to food acquisition. This system includes cognitive, communicative, and socio-moral aspects. The problem of collaboration to get food is the overarching issue, and it brings about numerous sub-problems. The human brain's long development period is an expensive adaptation, and the long dependency of humans on their parents is a consequence of this investment. The benefits of having a large brain must be specific and related to these complex behaviors.

    • The long human developmental period enables complex social learning and cultural transmissionThe extended human developmental period facilitates the acquisition of essential skills, knowledge, and cooperative relationships, shaping our unique interdependent nature and complex society.

      The long ontogeny, or developmental period, of humans is costly and risky but necessary for the complex social learning and cultural transmission that sets us apart from other great apes. This extended period allows for the acquisition of essential skills and knowledge, as well as the formation of cooperative relationships and morality. The human version of cooperation, or morality, is a crucial aspect of our interdependent nature, enabling us to thrive in various environments by balancing individual and collective concerns. This interdependence can be thought of as a symbiotic relationship within a species, where both parties benefit from each other's contributions. Ultimately, understanding the significance of this long ontogeny and the role of cooperation and morality in human evolution provides valuable insights into our unique psychological orientation.

    • Interdependence and Cooperation in EvolutionIndividuals are interdependent in social structures, and those with greater dependence provide more help and cooperation, forming the foundation of morality and social structures.

      Cooperation and interdependence are key factors in the evolution of social structures. Contrary to popular belief, individuals do not exist in isolation, but rather, they depend on each other for various reasons. This interdependence creates a mathematical formula for cooperation, similar to kin selection, where the degree of dependence determines the level of help or cooperation given. In a social group, individuals are interdependent by definition, and those who are more dependent on each other for survival or other essential needs will provide more help and cooperation. This interdependence is the foundation of morality and social structures, as individuals have an inherent interest in keeping their social group alive to ensure their own survival. This perspective challenges the common assumption that individuals are always in competition and highlights the importance of cooperation and interdependence in evolution.

    • The origins of human morality lie in our interdependent cooperation for food acquisitionHuman morality evolved from cooperation for survival, with early forms based on sharing and helping, and more complex forms emerging from collaborative foraging and mental time travel

      The evolution of morality in humans can be traced back to our interdependent cooperation for food acquisition. This cooperation required fairness and respect, as individuals needed each other to survive. The ancient Greeks identified two types of morality: the morality of sharing and helping, which is widespread in mammals, and the morality of fairness and obligation, which comes from collaborative foraging. The ability to conceptualize the future and understand the consequences of our actions, known as mental time travel, may have played a role in the development of this more complex moral system.

    • Agency: The ability to make decisions and adapt to unpredictable situationsNature builds in individuals the capacity to learn and adapt through informed decision-making, leaving the specific decisions to the individual. Squirrels' nut caching behavior is an example of evolved behavior, but the decision of where to cache a nut is not determined by evolution.

      Agency, the ability to make decisions and act upon unpredictable situations, is an evolutionary trait that emerges when organisms face uncertainties. According to the speaker, nature builds in individuals the capacity to learn and adapt through informed decision-making, leaving the specific decisions to the individual. This concept is based on the idea that organisms, particularly more complex ones, cannot be determined by nature in every situation. The speaker uses the example of squirrels to illustrate this concept, explaining that while caching nuts is an evolved behavior, the decision of where to cache a nut in a specific situation is not determined by evolution. The speaker also refers to control systems, such as thermostats, as an example of how an apparatus for decision-making can be structured. Overall, the speaker argues that agency is a crucial aspect of behavioral organization from lizards to humans.

    • Nature's homeostatic mechanisms demonstrate an agentive organizationNature's self-regulating systems exhibit goal-pursuing behavior, information gathering, and decision-making capabilities, challenging deterministic views and emphasizing complex control system organization

      Nature's homeostatic mechanisms, like a traffic light's intelligent functioning, demonstrate an agentive organization. This organization includes an individual with a goal, the ability to gather information, and decision-making capabilities. This perspective challenges deterministic views that everything in the world is predetermined, as it requires acknowledging an individual making decisions. In the field of animal behavior, it's essential to recognize an organism's goal-pursuing behavior rather than solely focusing on stimulus and response. By considering circular causality and control system organization, we can better understand intelligent, autonomous behavior. The concept of shared intentionality in human behavior further emphasizes this agentive organization, as individuals work together towards a shared goal, demonstrating a more complex control system organization.

    • Understanding Evolution through Agency and IntentionalityOrganisms make decisions and exhibit agency, driving evolution through natural selection. Humans possess unique shared agency, enabling complex problem-solving. Goals may have emerged as organisms evolved, with early vertebrates likely having them.

      Agency and intentionality are crucial concepts in understanding the evolution of organisms, from the simplest single-celled organisms to complex human beings. The author argues that organisms make decisions and exhibit agency, which can drive evolution through the process of natural selection. For instance, a lizard's ability to adapt and climb trees to survive and reproduce leads to the evolution of longer claws. Moreover, the author distinguishes between individual and shared agency. While individual organisms, such as squirrels, exhibit agency in their own right, only humans possess the capacity for shared agency, enabling us to collaborate and solve complex problems. The concept of goals is also an intriguing aspect of this discussion. While it's unclear when the first organisms had the capacity for goals, the author suggests that goals became more prevalent as organisms evolved, with the first vertebrates, like fish and lizard-like creatures, likely having goals. Overall, the author's perspective offers a unique way of looking at the evolution of organisms, emphasizing the importance of agency and intentionality in driving the evolutionary process.

    • The existence of free will in animals' decision-makingAnimals make decisions based on individual circumstances, exhibiting goal-oriented behavior, and possessing free will within their evolved decision-making apparatus.

      While the decision-making apparatus in animals, including humans, is an evolved trait, it does not negate the existence of free will. Animals, from lizards to humans, exhibit goal-oriented behavior and make decisions based on their individual circumstances. Free will is the ability to make choices within the confines of this decision-making apparatus. While the physical world may be deterministic, denying free will is an intellectual exercise and not reflective of everyday life. The complexity of experience increases along the chain of agency, leading to different kinds of mental relationships with reality. Evolutionists must consider the world from the perspective of various organisms, from worms to humans, and recognize the importance of individual agency in shaping behavior and experience.

    • Understanding unique experiences of organismsExploring how different organisms perceive their worlds, acknowledging mental and cultural factors, deepens our appreciation for life's complexities

      Every organism, including humans, experiences the world in a unique way based on their specific ecological and experiential niches. While humans have the ability to plan actions based on what ought to be, other creatures, like ticks or worms, are limited to their sensory experiences and the needs of their ecological niches. The concept of an experiential niche expands on the common sense idea of an ecological niche, acknowledging the importance of mental and cultural factors in human experience. The study of umwelt, or the specific ways different animals perceive their environments, highlights the complexity and layers of this concept. The current challenge for humans is to meet the cooperative needs of our civilization before exploring further cognitive advancements. Ultimately, understanding the unique experiences of different organisms, including our own, can deepen our appreciation for the intricacies of life and our place within it.

    • Promoting international cooperation in scientific researchOvercoming nationalistic attitudes and cooperation problems could lead to new scientific discoveries through increased international collaboration

      The promotion of a more interconnected global community could lead to significant advancements in various fields, particularly in scientific research. The speaker believes that increased international cooperation among scientists could lead to new discoveries, as secrets are no longer as hidden as they once were. However, the first step towards achieving this goal is overcoming the cooperation problem and the nationalistic attitudes that hinder collaboration. This discussion highlights the importance of international unity and the potential benefits it could bring to the world.

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    Michael Muthukrishna received his Ph.D. in psychology from the University of British Columbia. He is currently Associate Professor of Economic Psychology at the London School of Economics and Political Science. Among his awards are an Emerging Scholar Award from the Society for Personality and Social Psychology and a Dissertation Excellence Award from the Canadian Psychological Association. His new book is A Theory of Everyone: The New Science of Who We Are, How We Got Here, and Where We're Going.


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    227 | Molly Crockett on the Psychology of Morality

    227 | Molly Crockett on the Psychology of Morality

    Most of us strive to be good, moral people. When we are doing that striving, what is happening in our brains? Some of our moral inclinations seem pretty automatic and subconscious. Other times we have to sit down and deploy our full cognitive faculties to reason through a tricky moral dilemma. I talk with psychologist Molly Crockett about where our moral intuitions come from, how they can sometimes serve as cover for bad behaviors, and how morality shapes our self-image.

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    Molly J. Crockett received her Ph.D. in Experimental Psychology from the University of Cambridge. She is currently Associate Professor of Psychology and University Center for Human Values at Princeton University. She is a Fellow of the Association for Psychological Science and the Society for Experimental Social Psychology.


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    176 | Joshua Greene on Morality, Psychology, and Trolley Problems

    176 | Joshua Greene on Morality, Psychology, and Trolley Problems

    We all know you can’t derive “ought” from “is.” But it’s equally clear that “is” — how the world actual works — is going to matter for “ought” — our moral choices in the world. And an important part of “is” is who we are as human beings. As products of a messy evolutionary history, we all have moral intuitions. What parts of the brain light up when we’re being consequentialist, or when we’re following rules? What is the relationship, if any, between those intuitions and a good moral philosophy? Joshua Greene is both a philosopher and a psychologist who studies what our intuitions are, and uses that to help illuminate what morality should be. He gives one of the best defenses of utilitarianism I’ve heard.

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    Joshua Greene received his Ph.D. in philosophy from Princeton University. He is currently Professor of Psychology and a member of the Center for Brain Science faculty at Harvard University. His an originator of the dual-process model of moral reasoning. Among his awards are the the Stanton Prize from the Society for Philosophy and Psychology and Harvard’s Roslyn Abramson Award for teaching. He is the author of Moral Tribes: Emotion, Reason, and the Gap Between Us and Them.


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