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    • Exploring tools for optimization in hiring and personal financeIndeed streamlines hiring with a vast user base and advanced matching engine, while Rocket Money helps manage finances by canceling subscriptions and monitoring spending.

      In our constant pursuit of improvement, there are tools like Indeed and Rocket Money that can streamline and optimize various aspects of our lives, whether it be hiring or managing personal finances. Indeed, a leading hiring platform, can help businesses find quality candidates efficiently with its vast user base and advanced matching engine. On the other hand, Rocket Money, a personal finance app, assists individuals in canceling unwanted subscriptions, monitoring spending, and reducing bills. Both platforms offer significant benefits, saving time, resources, and money. Moreover, Molly Crockett's research on morality reveals the complexities of understanding why people act morally and how our perceptions of morality can change, particularly in the digital age. Ultimately, these discoveries invite us to reflect on the role of technology in shaping our values and behaviors.

    • Exploring Moral Reasoning Through Various MethodsPsychologist Molly Crockett's research focuses on understanding moral cognition, revealing moral expansion in individuals during transformative experiences like Burning Man, possibly due to collective effervescence and time spent at these events.

      Psychologist Molly Crockett explores how people reason morally through various methods, including experiments, psychology tests, naturalistic observations, and field studies. Her research focuses on understanding moral cognition rather than prescribing a specific moral theory. One intriguing finding is the phenomenon of moral expansion, which occurs when individuals' moral circles expand to encompass all of humanity during transformative experiences, such as attending festivals like Burning Man. The causes of moral expansion are not yet fully understood but may involve collective effervescence, a feeling of joyful connection in large groups. While substances may play a role, the primary factor appears to be the amount of time spent at these events. This research offers a positive perspective on the communal feeling that can emerge in large groups, challenging the negative connotations often associated with mob mentality.

    • Mass gatherings shape our thoughts, feelings, and behaviors through morality and normsMass gatherings influence our sense of morality and norms, impacting how we think, feel, and behave, with origins and development still debated

      Mass gatherings serve as amplifiers of the narratives and cultural beliefs they promote, shaping our thoughts, feelings, and behaviors profoundly. Morality, or more specifically norm psychology, is a crucial aspect of this social construction, with significant variation across and within cultures. We are born with a capacity to learn and adapt socially, and our focus on norms contributes to social cohesion and cooperation. However, the origins and development of morality and norms are still debated, with some arguing that they are innate and others that they are learned. Regardless, our ability to represent and learn about norms plays a significant role in our sense of social standing and fitting in.

    • The disconnection between moral discourse and reality on social mediaSocial media's rapid cycle of proposals, backlash, and counter-backlash can lead to unrepresentative discussions and weaponization by political actors. Understanding the dynamics of social media and philosophical debates on moral realism, relativism, and constructivism is essential to address this issue.

      The disconnection between questions about doing the right thing and actual human and animal welfare can lead to problematic discourse, particularly on social media. This rapid cycling of proposals, backlash, and counter-backlash can be driven by social media algorithms designed to grab our attention, leading to extreme and often unrepresentative discussions. It's important to understand this process and consider ways to address it, but it's a complex issue that requires understanding the dynamics of social media and a metaethical theory of what constitutes the right way for society to be set up. Additionally, these features of social media can be weaponized by political actors to exaggerate issues and incite outrage. While it's important to recognize the evolution of moral norms, it's also essential to consider the philosophical debates surrounding moral realism, relativism, and constructivism. As a psychologist, I'm more focused on understanding human behavior and discourse, but I acknowledge the need to take a stance on these philosophical questions and wish I were more educated in the area.

    • Values and Perspectives in Moral and Ethical ResearchUnderstanding personal values and their impact on research is crucial for ethical and meaningful results, even if one doesn't believe in objective moral reality.

      Our personal values and perspectives shape the way we approach and understand moral and ethical questions, even in scientific research. The speaker, who started as a psychology and neuroscience major but grew interested in philosophy, recognizes the importance of education in this field to form a more informed stance. They also acknowledged the evolutionary challenge to moral realism, questioning the coincidence of our evolved norms with objective moral reality. However, the speaker emphasized that even if one does not need to believe in objective moral standards, understanding how our values influence our research is crucial. For instance, the goal of bridging political divides might seem admirable, but it becomes problematic when applied to incompatible ideologies. Therefore, acknowledging and examining our values is essential to conducting ethical and meaningful research in philosophy and beyond. Additionally, the speaker mentioned their personal experience with language learning through Babbel, expressing how it helps them connect with people and cultures. Babbel offers a special discount for Mindscape listeners, allowing them to learn a new language more effectively and efficiently.

    • Science and values are intertwinedOur beliefs and cultural influences shape our behavior, challenging the notion of humans as purely selfish beings

      Science, like humans, is not entirely objective and free from values. While we may claim to be objective, what we truly mean is that we hold certain values and believe they are the right ones. Morality does not function as a check on our impulses, but rather, our beliefs and cultural influences shape our behavior. People are not inherently selfish or angelic; we are social learners who develop a sense of obligation to help those closer to us. The idea of humans as purely selfish beings, often used to justify self-serving narratives and capitalism, is not grounded in scientific fact. Our sphere of caring does expand as we learn and age, but we also have an in-group bias that is influenced by culture. It's crucial to be aware of these distinctions and the potential implications of oversimplifying human nature.

    • Moral compass shaped by innate sentiments and learned experiencesAlgorithms influence moral discourse and norms on social media, shaping cultural evolution and moral development at an unprecedented scale and speed

      Our moral compass and sense of social obligations are shaped by both innate sentiments and learned experiences within our social groups. The challenge in our global society is expanding our sense of "in group" to include humanity as a whole, as we face global issues like pandemics and climate change. Our moral impulses, such as empathy and vicarious joy, are a basic toolkit that we learn to direct towards specific social contexts. These learning processes can be influenced by representation and reinforcement, with algorithms playing a new role in shaping moral discourse and norms on social media. While some argue that this is not entirely new, the scale and speed of algorithmic intervention in social learning processes is unprecedented. It's crucial to consider the implications of this for cultural evolution and moral development.

    • The impact of social media algorithms on cultural discourse and moral evolutionSocial media algorithms shape cultural discourse and moral evolution by influencing which perspectives are amplified, making it hard for individuals to keep up and reflect, potentially leading to skepticism and hindering progress towards treating each other better.

      The intersection of social media algorithms and the rapid pace of information exchange is shaping our cultural discourse and moral evolution in new and unprecedented ways. The algorithms, designed to maximize engagement and revenue, can influence which perspectives are amplified and which are silenced. This can lead to a constant bombardment of new information, making it difficult for individuals to keep up and reflect on the implications. Some people may react with skepticism or dismissal, viewing new moral proposals as illegitimate due to their rapid emergence. This nihilistic attitude can hinder progress towards treating each other better. It's important to recognize the impact of these technological developments on our moral landscape and consider how we can adapt and engage in constructive dialogue.

    • Systems shape our moralitySystems can influence our morality, often subtly, and it's essential to consider their role in shaping our goals and actions

      Our morality, whether innate or learned, can be influenced by systems and power structures that we may not be aware of. While we strive to reason and act wisely, these systems can shape our goals in ways that are not always visible to us. For instance, our focus on individual wrongdoing in moral psychology overlooks the impact of systems that limit people's choices and lead to harm. The pandemic is an example of this, as governments and societies were not prepared to provide individuals with good choices to deal with the crisis. This raises questions about the importance of focusing on individual actions versus systems, and whether morality can serve as a cover for ignoring larger, systemic issues. Effective altruism, with its emphasis on individual actions and charitable donations, may be a case in point. While well-intentioned, it might distract from addressing the root causes of problems. Ultimately, it's crucial to broaden our perspective and consider the role of systems in shaping our moral landscape.

    • Understanding the Complexity of Motives and Social InfluenceBeing aware of how social forces can influence our perception and judgment of others' actions, and striving for accurate understanding, is crucial for individual well-being and effective communication.

      Our behaviors are often influenced by multiple motives, and when we explain our actions, we may be influenced by social forces to present the most socially desirable reason. For instance, the desire for revenge may have evolved to maintain social norms at a group level, but it may not be beneficial for individual well-being or for changing others' behavior in the long term. Moral narratives can be strategically used to shape how we perceive and judge others, imposing the narrator's preferred structure of causation and moral responsibility onto the audience, often without their knowledge. This can make us feel better about ourselves, as condemning others can make us appear more trustworthy. However, it's essential to be aware of this phenomenon and strive for accurate understanding of the causes and consequences of our actions and those of others.

    • Moral reasoning influenced by rules and outcomesIn relationships, deontological reasoning is trusted. In leadership, consequentialist reasoning may be favored. Both matter in complex moral dilemmas.

      Our moral reasoning can be influenced by both deontological (rules-based) and consequentialist (outcome-based) considerations, depending on the context. Deontological reasoning is often seen as more trustworthy and preferred in close relationships, while consequentialist reasoning may be more favored in certain leadership roles or situations involving resource distribution. However, it's important to note that these categories are not mutually exclusive, and real-life moral dilemmas often require a nuanced approach that considers both the rules and the consequences. Additionally, moral psychology research suggests that deontological reasoning may have evolved as a way to strengthen social relationships and the fabric of society.

    • Morality and Self-ImageUnderstanding morality's impact on self-image and societal perception is crucial for personal well-being. Conflicts arise when our cultural narrative clashes with complex moral issues, and alternative perspectives from philosophies like Buddhism may offer solutions.

      Our sense of morality and self-image are deeply interconnected, shaping how we view ourselves and our place in society. Morality plays a crucial role in our sense of identity, and being seen as moral by others is essential for our well-being. However, our cultural narrative of good guys and bad guys can create conflicts when we encounter suffering or make mistakes. We are epistemically under-resourced to solve these complex issues, and alternative ways of thinking about the self and moral responsibility, such as those found in Buddhist philosophy, may offer new perspectives for addressing interpersonal and societal conflicts. Ultimately, loosening the grip of binary views of good and evil and embracing a more nuanced understanding of moral responsibility could help us navigate the complex challenges facing individuals and societies.

    • Blaming individuals or systems for complex issues may not be accurate or productiveInstead of blaming, focus on education and understanding to navigate complex issues and improve ourselves. The world is not always black and white, and solutions require a nuanced approach.

      Our tendency to blame individuals or systems for complex issues may not be accurate or productive. Instead, we should focus on education and understanding as tools to navigate the world and improve ourselves. The idea that there is always a person to blame for problems is deeply ingrained in human psychology, but it's not always the case. The educational system can help us better understand ourselves and others, but it's important to consider what we're being educated about. Psychoactive substances, such as drugs, can also impact our sense of morality, but the implications of this are complex and require further exploration. Ultimately, it's essential to recognize that the world is not always black and white, and that solutions to complex issues often require a nuanced and multifaceted approach.

    • Exploring the Effects of Psychedelics and MeditationResearch on psychedelics and meditation suggests they can lead to profound changes, but more objective measures are needed to fully understand their impact and duration.

      While there is evidence that psychedelic substances and practices like meditation can lead to significant changes in perception, self-understanding, and behavior, the duration and extent of these effects are not yet fully understood. Some research relies on self-reported data, but there is a need for more objective measures to verify these claims. The potential for psychedelics to bring about epistemic and personal transformations sets them apart from other pharmacological treatments, but the long-term impact on behavior is still an open question. It's important to continue exploring these avenues of research to better understand the potential benefits and limitations of these substances and practices.

    • Bridging the gap between subjective experiences and objective measuresSelf-reporting plays a crucial role in clinical psychology and psychotherapy, but its accuracy is complex. Further research is needed to explore the relationship between introspection and mindfulness practices. While self-reporting is assumed to be accurate to some extent, it's important to approach claims of profound insights with a critical and open mind.

      The relationship between subjective experiences and objective measures is a complex one, and it's important to consider how we can bridge the gap between the two. While self-reporting may not always be accurate, it plays a crucial role in clinical psychology and psychotherapy. The idea that people who practice mindfulness or meditation are better at introspection is an intriguing question, and further research is needed to explore this idea. The premise of clinical psychology, that people are able to report on their thoughts and feelings and learn to reason about them, is based on the assumption that self-reporting is accurate to some extent. However, it's important to approach claims of profound insights into the universe or the nature of reality with a critical and open mind, recognizing that different fields of study may define these concepts differently. Ultimately, there's room for both subjective and objective approaches to understanding the world and ourselves. Molly Crockett's insights on the intersection of neuroscience, psychology, and philosophy provided a fascinating perspective on these complex issues.

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    276 | Gavin Schmidt on Measuring, Predicting, and Protecting Our Climate

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    53 | Solo -- On Morality and Rationality

    53 | Solo -- On Morality and Rationality
    What does it mean to be a good person? To act ethically and morally in the world? In the old days we might appeal to the instructions we get from God, but a modern naturalist has to look elsewhere. Today I do a rare solo podcast, where I talk both about my personal views on morality, a variety of “constructivism” according to which human beings construct their ethical stances starting from basic impulses, logical reasoning, and communicating with others. In light of this view, I consider two real-world examples of contemporary moral controversies: Is it morally permissible to eat meat? Or is there an ethical imperative to be a vegetarian? Do inequities in society stem from discrimination, or from the natural order of things? As a jumping-off point I take the loose-knit group known as the Intellectual Dark Web, which includes Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, and others, and their nemeses the Social Justice Warriors (though the discussion is about broader issues, not just that group of folks). Probably everyone will agree with my takes on these issues once they listen to my eminently reasonable arguments. Actually this is a more conversational, exploratory episode, rather than a polished, tightly-argued case from start to finish. I don’t claim to have all the final answers. The hope is to get people thinking and conversing, not to settle things once and for all. These issues are, on the one hand, very tricky, and none of us should be too certain that we have everything figured out; on the other hand, they can get very personal, and consequently emotions run high. The issues are important enough that we have to talk about them, and we can at least aspire to do so in the most reasonable way possible.   Support Mindscape on Patreon or Paypal. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.