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    225. The Spiritual Void and the West | Rav Arora

    enFebruary 11, 2022

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    • Replacing Spirituality with IdeologyIdeologies function as crippled religions, offering motive force and attractiveness but lacking symbolic complexity. Confusing politics with spirituality can be psychologically dangerous.

      Spiritual experiences and practices are being replaced by ideological worship and political activism in Western secular culture. This trend, which Jordan Peterson discusses in his book, can be seen as a dangerous replacement for religious and spiritual movements. Ideologies function as crippled religions, offering the motive force and attractiveness of religious belief but lacking the symbolic complexity of established religions. The decline of organized religion and the rise of politics as a spiritual substitute is a complex issue, with varying trends across different regions and populations. It's essential to recognize the psychological danger of confusing political explanations and ideologies with religious and spiritual ideologies and movements. Instead, we should strive to maintain the separation of the political and the spiritual, allowing each to fulfill its unique role in our lives.

    • Ideologies vs Religion: Complexity and LimitsIdeologies can be dangerous, confusing us about problem complexity and our own limitations, while religion offers spiritual fulfillment. Separate religious and political beliefs, think critically, and seek expertise.

      Ideologies, while they may provide a sense of community and a desire to enact change, cannot replace religion when it comes to spiritual fulfillment. Moreover, ideologies can be dangerous as they can blind us to the complexity of problems and lead us to simplistic solutions, potentially justifying violent impulses. The speaker emphasizes the importance of separating religious and political beliefs, and the need for detailed thinking and specialized expertise to effectively address complex issues. The danger of ideologies lies in their potential to confuse us about the nature of problems and our own limitations, leading us to believe we have a complete understanding when in reality, we do not.

    • Recognize internal malevolence and ignoranceIt's crucial to address internal biases and ignorance, alongside external forms of discrimination and oppression, for a truly inclusive society

      While it's important to fight against external forms of discrimination and oppression, such as transphobia and Islamophobia, it's equally important to recognize and address the internal malevolence and ignorance within ourselves and social institutions. Human beings have a natural tendency to feel oppressed by external forces, but it's crucial not to overlook the danger and ignorance present in the natural world and within ourselves. Society can be free and inclusive, but it's not without its flaws, and it's essential to avoid self-delusion and careless judgment. The world is complex, and understanding it requires recognizing both the external and internal forces at play.

    • The importance of accurate historical knowledgeIgnoring historical progress can lead to skewed perceptions and unnecessary conflict. Strive for sophistication in understanding complex issues and recognize peaceful coexistence as the norm.

      While it's understandable for people to believe their societies could be improved, it's important to have accurate historical knowledge to put things into perspective. Ignorance can lead to the belief that things are much worse than they actually are and create enemies out of perceived injustices. Universities and activism can exacerbate this issue by promoting simplistic explanations and fabrications of injustice. It's crucial to strive for sophistication in understanding complex issues and to recognize the significant progress made in society. Additionally, the media's focus on negative information can create a skewed perception of the prevalence of racial prejudice. It's essential to separate base rates and understand that instances of peaceful coexistence are the norm, not the exception. Historical comparison is an effective way to put current issues into perspective and recognize the significant improvements made over time.

    • Media oversimplification of mass shootingsMedia headlines can misrepresent complex issues, overlooking nuanced factors and leading to incorrect assumptions. It's essential to approach these situations with a thoughtful, informed perspective.

      The media's sensationalized reporting on the motivations behind mass shootings can often lead to incorrect assumptions and a lack of nuanced understanding. In the case discussed, the shooter's internal moral struggle with sexual addiction was overshadowed by headlines focusing on racism. This not only misrepresents the situation but also overlooks the complex factors contributing to disparities and success within various communities. It's crucial to avoid jumping to conclusions and instead approach these issues with a thoughtful, informed perspective.

    • Complex factors contributing to racial disparitiesAsian Americans often outperform other racial groups due to familial structure, work ethic, and attitudes towards self-made success. However, it's crucial not to overlook individual responsibility and effort in explaining success or failure.

      While it's important to acknowledge the existence of systemic racism, we must also consider the complex factors contributing to racial disparities. Asian Americans, for instance, often outperform other racial groups due to familial structure, an emphasis on work, and attitudes towards self-made success. However, it's crucial not to overlook individual responsibility and effort in explaining success or failure. The belief that external prejudice is the sole cause can deny individuals the tools they need to improve their circumstances. Moreover, the narrative of white supremacy as the primary driver of racial disparities is increasingly being challenged. Instead, we should adopt a nuanced perspective, recognizing the multifaceted nature of these issues.

    • Asian Women Outearn White Men in US Despite Fewer Kids and Less ReligiosityAsian women in the US outearned white men in 2020 due to fewer kids, family support, and career focus, challenging the notion of insurmountable race and gender barriers. Young people's spirituality seems disconnected from religion; they could prioritize practical needs before exploring higher order concerns.

      Asian women in the US earned more than white men in 2020 when controlling for full-time work. Reasons for this include having fewer kids out of wedlock, having fewer kids overall, and having more family support. These factors contribute to greater financial security and more time for career advancement. This finding challenges the narrative that race and gender disadvantages are insurmountable barriers to success. However, it's crucial to acknowledge the existence of sexism and anti-Asian bigotry. Regarding young people's spirituality, they're increasingly politically active but seem disconnected from religion. To address this, they could adopt a differentiated view of and strategy for life, focusing on practical needs like employment before exploring higher order concerns like spirituality.

    • Planning for a well-rounded life: Career, Education, Relationships, Health, and SpiritualityPlan for a balanced life by focusing on career competence and interest, ongoing education, healthy relationships, physical and mental well-being, and spiritual growth.

      Having a job or a career is essential for practical reasons such as financial stability, but also for psychological reasons like fulfilling the human need to be of value to others. Young people should plan for both, aiming for competence and interest in their chosen field. Education is crucial, and it should be ongoing due to the ever-changing world. Intimate relationships and family, physical and mental health, and addressing philosophical or spiritual yearnings are also vital aspects of a well-rounded life. As you progress in your career, consider fostering the development of others as a source of meaning. While it's important to have a vision and persevere towards it, don't overlook the need for emotional and spiritual support during challenges. This support can come from various sources, including spiritual practices, which can provide meaning, hope, and a sense of connection.

    • The Importance of Spiritual ExperiencesRecognize the importance of spiritual experiences, find ways to incorporate them into life, whether through traditional practices, art, literature, or alternative means, to foster well-being and development.

      Spiritual experiences and practices, whether through religion or alternative means like art, literature, or even hallucinogenic substances, play a crucial role in human well-being and development. This need for spiritual connection is deeply ingrained in us biologically and has been a part of human societies for thousands of years. However, as our society becomes more secular and technology-driven, finding and maintaining these spiritual experiences can be a challenge for those without a traditional religious practice. The loss of experiential elements in modern religions and even materialism can leave individuals feeling disconnected and unfulfilled. It's essential to recognize the importance of spiritual experiences and find ways to incorporate them into our lives, whether through traditional religious practices, art, literature, or alternative means. The search for meaningful spiritual experiences may be the fundamental question of our age as we navigate a world that can often feel devoid of deeper meaning and connection.

    • Tension between ideology and spiritual experienceWestern religious traditions may be disconnected from practical mysticism and transformative experiences, questioning the effectiveness of organized religion and advocating for a marriage of belief systems and spiritual adventures, while emphasizing the importance of reconnecting with ancient practices and technologies for spiritual growth.

      Our modern world is grappling with the tension between ideological commitments and the human desire for adventure and spiritual experience. The speaker suggests that Western religious traditions may be divorced from practical mysticism and the transformative experiences that come with it. He also questions the effectiveness of organized religion in satisfying the call to adventure and providing a meaningful spiritual experience. The speaker calls for a marriage of formalized belief systems with the Dionysian, the spiritual and the adventurous, but admits that we don't have a clear solution to this challenge. He also highlights the importance of reconnecting with ancient spiritual practices and technologies, such as psychedelics, to rediscover the transformative power of spiritual experiences.

    • Religion as a Practice for Personal GrowthReligious institutions could offer practical spiritual practices and encourage self-reflection to help young people take their faith seriously and develop self-discipline.

      Organized religion may not be providing young people with the depth and ethical requirements they need to fully explore their spiritual impulses. The speaker suggests that religious institutions could offer more practical spiritual practices, like meditation or contemplative prayer, to help young people take their faith seriously and develop self-discipline. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of recognizing and confronting one's own flaws and negative thoughts, which can be a powerful spiritual experience. Overall, the speaker argues that religion should be more than just a set of beliefs; it should be a practice that challenges individuals to grow and become better versions of themselves.

    • Exploring personal growth through introspection and spiritual practiceBalancing spiritual experience and religious structure for meaningful growth and connection with a higher power

      Engaging in introspection and asking oneself how to be a better person is a form of spiritual practice. This communication with one's ideal self can lead to personal growth and potentially a deeper connection with a higher power, such as God. However, many Western religious traditions, including Christianity, seem to be falling short of fulfilling our fundamental spiritual impulses. This disconnect between religion and spirituality can be addressed by melding the two, balancing structure and dogma with mysticism and spiritual experience. The absence of this balance can result in either an empty, lifeless religious experience or an uncontrollable, potentially dangerous spiritual one. Finding this balance is essential for valuable religious experience and personal growth.

    • Concern over spiritual void in modern Christianity and Western worldThe speaker laments the loss of spirituality in modern Christianity and the broader Western world, and calls for a nuanced understanding and appreciation of religious experiences to find meaning and purpose.

      The speaker is expressing concern over the spiritual void in modern Christianity and the broader Western world. He views this as a catastrophic loss, as spirituality was a central aspect of various religious and cultural traditions throughout history. He criticizes materialist atheists for leaving people without a sense of meaning or purpose, and advocates for a more nuanced understanding and appreciation of religious experiences. The speaker identifies a disconnect within Christianity specifically, but also within Western society as a whole, and calls for a humble reevaluation of our past to find any spiritual treasure that may still exist. He believes that the West has achieved many valuable things, but we are currently undermining these achievements by ignoring the spiritual dimension of human existence.

    • Exploring the transformative power of mindfulness and attentionMindfulness and attention can lead to spiritual experiences and a deeper understanding of oneself and the world. Embrace personal responsibility and explore empathy as a source of moral action.

      Paying attention and being mindful, whether through meditation or in daily life, can lead to transformative experiences and a deeper understanding of oneself and the world. The speaker shares how he has derived spiritual experiences from attentional focus and creating art, emphasizing the importance of opening one's mind to intrinsic meaning. However, in today's culture, there seems to be a growing trend towards victimhood and a push against personal responsibility. The speaker suggests that empathy is one source of moral action and encourages further exploration of this cultural pathology. Ultimately, mindfulness and attention are powerful tools for personal growth and understanding the world around us.

    • Empathy's Limits and BeyondEmpathy is important but not a complete solution for morality. Personal responsibility, self-determination, and alternative sources of moral behavior are also crucial.

      Empathy is an important aspect of morality, but it's not the only one and it has its limitations. While empathy can lead us to care for others and act ethically, it's not a complete solution. It's essential to recognize that there are boundaries to empathy, and we must also value personal responsibility and self-determination. Moreover, the identification with victimhood as a moral stance has its attractions but also risks and limitations. It's crucial to examine our motivations and consider alternative sources of moral behavior. The speaker shares his personal experience of being bullied as a child due to his race and the importance of understanding the underlying cultural pathology that can lead to such behavior. In summary, empathy is a valid source of moral behavior, but it's not enough on its own, and we must also recognize the importance of personal responsibility, self-determination, and alternative sources of moral behavior.

    • Bullying and racism impact everyone, not just certain groupsRecognize bullying is not limited to racial identity, and focusing on personal growth and moral superiority can be empowering.

      While experiencing bullying and racism can be harmful and impact individuals, it's important to recognize that everyone, regardless of their background, is susceptible to being bullied or targeted. The use of racial identity as a tool for bullying is a form of disgust, not fear, which can be paralyzing and isolating. However, acknowledging the existence of racism and its impact does not equate to identifying as a victim. Instead, taking ownership of one's life and focusing on personal growth and moral superiority through earned means can be a more empowering and productive approach.

    • Avoiding racial victimization narrativesRecognize individual experiences, avoid reducing people to their race, and focus on unique qualities and accomplishments to promote unity and equality.

      The perpetuation of systemic victimization narratives based on race is not only socially divisive but also hypocritical. It's important to acknowledge individual experiences and perspectives, regardless of race, while recognizing that everyone has the potential to succeed and contribute to society. It's essential to avoid reducing individuals to their racial identities and instead focus on their unique qualities and accomplishments. The assumption that certain races hold inherent advantages or disadvantages in society is not always accurate and can be demeaning. Instead, we should celebrate diversity and individual merit.

    • Challenges and advantages of being a minorityWhile being a minority can bring advantages, it also presents challenges. Focusing on resilience and overcoming adversity can lead to personal growth and progress.

      While there are instances where being a minority can provide advantages, such as in academic and professional settings due to affirmative action policies, there are also challenges and obstacles faced in various contexts. Furthermore, the concept of victimhood and the resulting emotions, including anger, bitterness, and resentment, can be detrimental and unproductive. Instead, focusing on resilience and overcoming adversity can lead to personal growth and progress. The speaker's own experiences with health issues and feelings of victimhood were discussed, and the importance of moving past these emotions was emphasized.

    • Finding meaning in sufferingEven in the face of extreme suffering, it's important to resist victimhood mindset and resentment towards God or universe. Instead, focus on learning and growing from experiences.

      Even in the face of extreme suffering and adversity, it's important to resist the temptation to fall into the victimhood mindset and resentment towards God or the universe. While it may be a natural response to ask "why me?" and feel anger and despair, it's ultimately not helpful and can do more harm than good. Instead, it's crucial to reflect on our actions and consider how we can learn and grow from our experiences. The speaker shares how they struggled with this internal turmoil after taking benzodiazepines and experiencing severe withdrawal symptoms, but ultimately came to the conclusion that giving in to resentment and bitterness was not the answer. Instead, they chose to focus on their resilience and the lessons they could take away from their experience.

    • Maintaining an upward orientation during sufferingEven in the midst of suffering, focusing on doing good and appreciating community can deepen understanding of human compassion

      Even in the face of extreme suffering, it's essential to maintain an upward orientation and focus on doing good in the world. Resentment and anger may be understandable, but they're not helpful. The author's experience of suffering led him to a deeper appreciation of the importance of community and cooperation, and he was amazed by the outpouring of love and support from his friends, family, and even strangers. While he hasn't yet reached the point of feeling that his suffering was worth it, he recognizes that it has deepened his understanding of human capacity for care and compassion.

    • A clinical psychologist's personal struggles don't disqualify him from sharing wisdomUniversal struggles and experiences can provide value, regardless of past mistakes or imperfections

      Despite the paradox of a clinical psychologist dealing with personal struggles, including addiction and public attacks, his experiences do not disqualify him from sharing wisdom on self-help and putting one's life in order. Life's imperfections and challenges are universal, and overcoming them allows us to connect and communicate with others. The speaker acknowledges his own imperfections and the possibility of past mistakes, but argues that everyone is susceptible to hardships and that sharing experiences and knowledge can still provide value.

    • Jordan Peterson's Personal Challenges Impact His PlayfulnessInspite of personal health issues and intense scrutiny, Jordan Peterson continues to share wisdom and insights with the world, making his content accessible to new audiences.

      Jordan Peterson, a well-known public figure, has faced significant personal challenges that have impacted his ability to be as playful and lighthearted as he once was. These challenges include his daughter and wife's health issues and his meteoric rise to fame, which brought intense scrutiny and criticism. Despite these challenges, Peterson has continued to share his wisdom and insights with the world, as evidenced by the growing number of translations of his work and the efforts to make his content accessible to younger audiences on social media platforms. Through it all, he remains committed to figuring things out and communicating about those things, even as the demands on his time and energy continue to increase.

    • Using platform for goodPublic figures have a moral obligation to inspire and empower others, and can make a positive impact on people's lives regardless of age or background.

      The speaker, who is a public figure known for his wisdom and inspiration, recognizes his moral obligation to use his platform and privilege to help and empower others. He sees it as everyone's responsibility to make a positive impact on people's lives, and he is grateful for the opportunity to do so on a large scale. The speaker's influence extends beyond the stereotypical demographic, reaching young girls, older men, and people from various backgrounds. He inspires intellectually and emotionally, and the impact of his work is vast and far-reaching. The speaker is motivated by the knowledge that his reach is nearly infinite and strives to continue making a difference.

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    Vulnerability and Emotional Awareness as Artists ft. Paul Dobleman

    In this episode, host Aaron. Della Vedova delves into the concept of continuous improvement in the world and the importance of kindness and empathy in our interactions with renowned tattoo artist Paul Dobleman. They express concern about the prevailing trend of people being combative and unwilling to listen to one another. The host specifically highlights the lack of empathy and understanding in politics and the news, expressing frustration with the current state of affairs. They believe that if people could simply listen to each other and show more empathy towards differing perspectives, it would greatly benefit society.

    They discuss the importance of acknowledging and embracing one's own emotions, as suppressing them can hinder artistic growth.

    Overall, this episode underscores the need for improvement in the world and emphasizes the pivotal role of kindness and empathy in achieving this. It explores how social media can contribute to echo chambers and reinforces the importance of stepping out of these bubbles to foster understanding and communication. Additionally, the episode highlights the connection between emotional awareness and artistic expression, encouraging artists to embrace discomfort and vulnerability as catalysts for creative growth.

     

    Chat Breakdown:

     

    [00:00:09] Tattoos as status symbols.

    [00:04:41] Traditional values in tattooing.

    [00:06:08] Tattooing trends and styles.

    [00:10:21] Renaissance of traditional tattooing.

    [00:12:18] Traditional body suits.

    [00:14:02] Sailor-style tattoos resurgence.

    [00:20:17] Embracing traditional tattoos in SF.

    [00:26:49] Tattooing and financial success.

    [00:30:11] The evolution of tattooing.

    [00:34:06] Childhood freedom and wildness.

    [00:42:00] Changing culture of partying.

    [00:51:18] Psychedelics for personal growth.

    [01:02:14] Hallucinations and compassion

    [01:15:43] Tattooing and dedication.

    [01:18:09] Rotaries as a tattoo tool.

    [01:25:02] Breaking boundaries with creativity.

    [01:28:18] The tattoo dream project.

    [01:31:53] Tattooing without a formal apprenticeship.

    [01:34:07] Traditional tattoo designs.

    [01:37:10] Larger tattoo pieces and bodysuits.

     

    Quotes:

    "Now you could blow that dragon up and it could be a whole sleeve."

    "They're, you know, by putting that trust in me, I feel like it, it comes out the best."

    "It was fun when it was more unique."

    "There are other people out there that want to take my spot. I need to fight."

    "But he has one of his sayings was like the only regrets in life are the risks that you didn't take."

    "Everyone could just listen to each other and be a little more empathetic to the other person's position."

    "Do you want a formal apprenticeship or just rip on your friends in a garage?"

     

    Connect with Paul: 

    IG: https://www.instagram.com/pauldobleman/ 

    Website: https://pauldobleman.com

    Black Heart Tattoo: http://www.blackhearttattoosf.com/project/paul-dobleman

     

    Connect with Aaron:⁠  

    Website: http://www.chatsandtatts.com⁠

    Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chatsandtatts 

    IG: http://www.instagram.com/chatsandtatts

    Chats & Tatts YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/chatsandtatts

    Aaron IG:⁠ http://www.instagram.com/aarondellavedova⁠

    Guru Tattoo: http://www.Gurutattoo.com

     

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    Have you ever felt overwhelmed or intimidated by the idea of meditation? What aspects of it are challenging to you? Do you think meditation is only for those with a specific mindset or spiritual practice? 

    Ginny and Amanda discuss the mental, emotional, and physical benefits of meditation, address common misconceptions which hold people back from meditating, and guide you through various types of meditation in this inspirational and informative show!

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    • Physical benefits of meditation including lowering levels of stress, inflammation, and blood pressure as well as enhancing concentration. 
    • Different practices such as transcendental, contemplative, and Metta meditation.
    • The mantra Amanda uses (and millions of other people) during Metta meditation that puts her in a state of oneness with herself and every living thing on Earth.
    • Meditation as a tool to tap into your higher consciousness and find your purpose.
    • Amanda's personal meditation practice including a grounding technique, an original prayer (patched together from various sources), cord cutting, and chakra clearing. 
    • The importance of breathwork and the science of engaging the vagus nerve to bring a sense of calm. 
    • An inner child meditation to bring you to a state of self-love and self-worth.
    • And much more!

    CORRECTION: The neurotransmitter that activates the calm response when engaging the vagus nerve is acetylcholine...not acetylcholide.

    Links mentioned in show:

    The David Lynch Foundation study: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWTF1SA7OVU

    Amanda's website to receive her monthly newsletter soon to include meditations, as well as to receive her free guide, "5 Principles to Be All In" https://www.amandamckoyflanagan.com/

    *Email your thoughts about this show or if you have an idea for another show to solrisingpodcast@gmail.com.

    *If you like this show, please subscribe, share, and leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review.

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    Follow Ginny at https://www.instagram.com/theflippinphoenix/ 

    Ginny's furniture rehab website: https://theflippinphoenix.com/

    Get Amanda's book, Trust Yourself to Be All In at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4M137BJ or https://www.amandamckoyflanagan.com/ 

    Music credit: "Surfer James" by Tom Deis. Source: Premiumbeats.com.

     

    Make It So: Sir Patrick Stewart On Surviving Trauma, Staying Engaged & Lessons From The Artist Life

    Make It So: Sir Patrick Stewart On Surviving Trauma, Staying Engaged & Lessons From The Artist Life
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