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    651: Seeing Greene: Recession Risks, Renting to Family, & Scaling Your Portfolio

    enAugust 21, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • Sharing Real Estate Investing Experiences and CostsBeing honest about real estate investing costs and experiences can inspire others, and opportunities like house hacking, investment funds, and no-money-down deals exist. Learn more at BiggerPockets boot camp and PPR Capital Management. Good tenant screening is essential, simplified by RentReady's proof of income verification.

      Being honest and open about your real estate investing experiences and costs can have a profound impact on others' lives. David Green, the host of the Bigger Pockets Real Estate podcast, encourages being truthful when friends ask about mortgage payments and the potential for house hacking. Additionally, there are opportunities for passive income through real estate investment funds and no-money-down rental property deals. A key resource for learning more about these opportunities is the BiggerPockets boot camp and PPR Capital Management. Good tenant screening is also crucial, and RentReady's new proof of income verification feature simplifies the process.

    • Learn from successful real estate investors in your network and research potential markets onlineNetwork with experienced investors and explore online resources to learn about potential real estate markets, considering factors like affordability and landlord-friendly laws

      If you're new to real estate investing and looking for guidance, starting with people in your network, such as friends or acquaintances who are already successful investors, can be a valuable resource. Additionally, researching potential markets for investment by looking at where other investors are active online can help narrow down your search. It's important to consider factors such as property affordability and landlord-friendly laws when evaluating potential markets. Remember, the goal is to learn as much as possible before diving in to increase your chances of success. So, reach out to your network, engage in online communities, and start your market analysis to get started on your real estate investing journey.

    • Understanding Market Trends and FundamentalsWhen investing in a new real estate market, research employment trends, prominent industries, potential job losses, challenges, and drawbacks. Seek a mentor and verify data from other investors to make informed decisions.

      When considering real estate investing in a new market, it's essential to consider various factors beyond just cash flow and rental rates. Ashley mentioned the importance of looking at employment trends, prominent industries, and potential job losses. She also advised researching the market's specific challenges and drawbacks, as no market is perfect. Additionally, she suggested seeking a mentor and verifying data from other investors to make informed decisions. Overall, it's crucial to understand the underlying reasons for market trends and fundamentals before investing.

    • Shift in Short-Term Rental Market: Opportunities for BuyersDespite decreased bookings for some, the current short-term rental market offers opportunities for buyers to negotiate better deals and secure properties at more reasonable prices. However, potential buyers should consider the impact of rising interest rates on financing options.

      The short-term rental (STR) market is experiencing a shift, with some owners reporting decreased bookings due to the new Airbnb algorithm and seasonality, but others are seeing better deals for buyers due to increased supply and uncertainty in the economy. The market is highly regional, so bookings and sales can vary greatly depending on location. While some owners have seen fewer bookings than last year, others have seen improvement. Overall, the current market presents an opportunity for buyers to negotiate better deals and secure properties at more reasonable prices. However, it's important for potential buyers to consider the impact of rising interest rates on their financing options. For current data on STR bookings, it's recommended to look at market-specific reports and trends rather than relying solely on anecdotal evidence.

    • Understanding the Short-Term Rental MarketAmidst pandemic-driven growth, check data sources like AirDNA, Raboo, and Price Labs for market insights. Focus on guest experiences for repeat bookings. House hacking can be an effective entry strategy with proper research and preparation.

      The short-term rental market has seen significant growth due to the COVID-19 pandemic and the resulting shift in travel preferences. To understand the current state of the market, Avery recommends checking data sources like AirDNA, Raboo, and Price Labs' market dashboards. As competition increases and supply grows, it's crucial for short-term rental owners to focus on providing excellent guest experiences to encourage repeat bookings. House hacking, a strategy for buying a property with the intention of living in it while renting out other parts, can be an effective way to enter the short-term rental market. Craig Kerlop, a house hacking expert, encourages those interested in this strategy to thoroughly research the market, understand local regulations, and be prepared for the additional responsibilities that come with managing a short-term rental property. Overall, the short-term rental market presents opportunities for investors, but it requires dedication and a focus on providing top-notch guest experiences.

    • Renting to Friends and Family vs. StrangersMaintain clear roles, define relationships, and sign a lease to avoid disputes when renting to friends and family. Background checks and credit scores are crucial for strangers, but honesty about finances can lead to house hacking opportunities.

      When it comes to renting out property, whether it's to a friend or family member or a stranger, there are important differences to consider. While a background check and credit score are essential when dealing with a stranger, for friends and family, you may already know their background and tendencies. However, it's crucial to maintain a clear landlord-tenant relationship and define roles during serious conversations. Always signing a lease is recommended, regardless of the relationship, to avoid potential disputes. Being honest about financial aspects can also empower others to explore house hacking opportunities. When renting to friends and family, consider offering a small discount on rent and security deposit, but remember to maintain a professional demeanor during important discussions.

    • Handling Real Estate Deals with Family and FriendsStick to agreed-upon terms, charge for late fees, and maintain professionalism when dealing with family and friends in real estate transactions.

      When dealing with family and friends in real estate transactions, it's important to be honest and treat the situation like a business. While there may be a temptation to offer discounts or leniency, it's crucial to stick to agreed-upon terms and charge for late fees if necessary. Additionally, be cautious when someone asks if you're making a profit on a property, as it could be a sign they're considering a negative move. A personal anecdote illustrates the importance of understanding different standards of fairness and how they can impact business deals. In the end, maintaining clear communication and treating every transaction with professionalism is key.

    • Understanding fairness in real estate transactionsClear communication and a shared understanding of fairness are crucial for successful real estate transactions.

      Fairness and its definition can vary greatly from person to person. In real estate transactions, it's crucial to ensure that all parties involved share a common understanding of what's fair. For instance, if a potential tenant's idea of fair rent is significantly lower than the market rate, it could lead to complications in the future. In another scenario, if a partner is contributing to the mortgage but doesn't want to be considered a house hacker, it might be possible to use their rent payments as supplemental income for loan qualifications. However, it's essential to consult with a lender and ensure that the lease is formally documented. Remember, communication and a shared understanding of fairness are key to a successful real estate transaction.

    • Income from rental properties can't be used for mortgage qualificationKeep income from rental properties separate for mortgage qualification, have written contracts with family, and prepare for larger property management and tax considerations when scaling up.

      When it comes to qualifying for a mortgage, income from a rental property you own cannot be used to help qualify for future property purchases. This is important to keep in mind for those looking to scale their real estate investments and involve family members in their business. Another key takeaway is the importance of having written contracts and agreements when doing business with family, even if it's a smaller multifamily property. Lastly, scaling up to larger multifamily properties involves similar management practices as smaller properties, but also requires setting aside money for capital reserves and preparing for potential differences in property management and tax considerations.

    • Investing in older multifamily properties comes with added costs and responsibilitiesOlder multifamily buildings require more funds for repairs and maintenance, but can bring in significant rental income. Prepare for added expenses and gain experience before borrowing money.

      Investing in multifamily properties requires careful planning and consideration, especially when it comes to older buildings and larger properties. Older buildings may require more funds for repairs and maintenance, while larger properties can bring in significant rental income through compounding rent increases. However, these investments also come with added expenses, such as payroll for dedicated staff. It's important to be prepared for these costs and to gain experience before borrowing money from others. Additionally, good tenant screening is crucial for successful property management, and tools like RentReady's comprehensive property management software can simplify the process.

    • Streamline tenant screening and save costs with Rent Ready, improve efficiency with NetSuite, and find off-market deals with PropStream.Property investors can streamline tenant screening, save costs, and create a portfolio of cash-flowing rentals using Rent Ready, NetSuite, and PropStream. Businesses can also improve efficiency and reduce IT expenses with NetSuite.

      Property investors can streamline their tenant screening process with Rent Ready and save on costs, while businesses can improve efficiency and reduce IT expenses by implementing NetSuite's unified business management suite. Additionally, those looking for off-market real estate deals can utilize PropStream's extensive database and marketing tools to find motivated sellers. Regarding Ethan's question, the "property waking" strategy involves turning each primary residence into a rental property, but it's essential to consider opportunity costs, tax implications, and potential capital gains when deciding whether to sell or hold onto rental properties. Ultimately, the goal is to create a portfolio of cash-flowing rental properties.

    • Considering Time, Freedom, and Taxes in Real Estate InvestingAssess time commitment, potential returns, and tax implications to maximize real estate investing returns. Understand the value of time and freedom in the decision-making process, and consider potential blind spots like future tax implications.

      When considering the best real estate investing strategy, it's essential to evaluate the time and freedom involved in managing the properties versus the potential returns. Ethan's situation of buying rental properties in nice zip codes, which may require more money to cash flow, raises the question of opportunity cost. However, as he has the option to sell these properties and potentially avoid capital gains tax or invest in other passive assets, it's crucial to assess the value of time and freedom in his decision-making process. Additionally, potential blind spots, such as future tax implications, should be considered when deciding on a long-term real estate investing strategy. Overall, understanding the time commitment, potential returns, and tax implications are vital factors to consider when maximizing returns in real estate investing.

    • Effective Tax Planning for Real Estate InvestorsConsult tax professionals, consider seller financing, diversify investments, and understand local regulations to minimize tax liabilities in real estate investing

      Effective tax planning is crucial for real estate investors. When selling a property, the taxable profit is based on the property's current value, minus its tax basis, which can be affected by depreciation. Consulting with a tax professional, especially one experienced in real estate investing, can help minimize tax liabilities. Another option is seller financing, where taxes are spread out over time through monthly payments. Diversifying investments by selling and investing profits into different asset classes, such as the stock market, can also be beneficial. Additionally, understanding local regulations, particularly for short-term rentals, is essential to maintain a successful real estate business.

    • Combining property walking and house hacking for real estate wealthBuy a new primary residence annually, turn it into a rental, and repeat for real estate wealth. Add other strategies like long-distance investing or flipping houses. Stay informed about local regulations and market accessibility for short-term rentals.

      Implementing a property walking strategy in combination with house hacking can be an effective way to build real estate wealth with minimal work. This involves buying a new primary residence each year with a low down payment, turning it into a rental property, and repeating the process. However, it's important to also consider adding other investment strategies, such as long-distance investing or flipping houses, to supplement this approach. Additionally, when considering short-term rentals, it's crucial to stay informed about local regulations and choose accessible and affordable markets to minimize risk during potential economic downturns.

    • Consider Long-Term Cash Flow and Adding Value to Real Estate InvestmentsWhen investing in real estate, focus on long-term cash flow and value-add opportunities. Control costs with strategies like the BRRRR method, and consider using a HELOC or refinancing for additional funds.

      When investing in real estate, particularly short-term rentals, it's important to consider the potential for long-term cash flow and the ability to add value to the property. Avery recommends ensuring that you don't overspend on a property, especially in markets with uncertain travel demand, and suggests employing the BRRRR strategy to minimize expenses. Additionally, when looking to acquire another investment property, pulling equity out of an existing home using a Home Equity Line of Credit (HELOC) can be a favorable option due to its flexibility and lower initial cost. However, refinancing also provides cash but requires a larger ongoing monthly payment. Ultimately, it's crucial to weigh the pros and cons of each approach and consider individual circumstances before making a decision.

    • Stay Informed and Engaged with Educational ContentStay informed with uninterrupted access to educational content, engage with others through comments, and approach investing with a strategic mindset.

      Staying informed and having uninterrupted access to educational content can help real estate investors stay ahead of the game and avoid mistakes. The speaker recommends using YouTube Premium for uninterrupted listening and encourages audience engagement through comments. He clarifies that he doesn't advocate against investing in specific markets but rather warns against taking shortcuts and emphasizes the importance of understanding the strategy in any market. The speaker also mentions that markets with lower prices and stronger price-to-rent ratios, such as the Midwest, can be attractive to new investors with limited capital, but he advises against relying too heavily on any one market. Overall, the key takeaway is to stay informed, stay engaged, and approach investing with a strategic mindset.

    • Long-term perspective in real estate investingBuy low-priced properties with strong price-to-rent ratios for future growth, stay committed, and keep learning.

      Successful real estate investing often requires a long-term perspective and delayed gratification. Buying properties with strong price-to-rent ratios at low price points may not yield immediate returns, but they can lead to significant growth in the future due to factors like inflation, wage increases, and market appreciation. Investors should aim for below-market value deals and avoid making major life decisions based on early cash flow. David Greene, a real estate investor and podcast host, encourages investors to stay committed to their goals and keep learning, as every experience and opportunity can contribute to growth. Additionally, he emphasizes the importance of constructive feedback and the potential for diverse podcast content to cater to various investor needs.

    • Understanding Property Pricing: NOI vs Future PotentialWhen evaluating multifamily deals, focus on a property's current performance (trailing 12 months NOI) instead of future potential NOI increases to make informed decisions and avoid overpaying.

      When looking for multifamily deals, it's important to understand how properties are priced and not be misled by brokers who price properties based on future performance instead of actual NOI. Properties are typically priced based on a cap rate, which is a risk factor on a neighborhood. The cap rate is calculated by looking at the purchase price of a property and the expected NOI. NOI is the rent a property produces minus all expenses except for debt service. A broker may price a property higher based on future potential NOI increases, but this isn't fair or accurate. Instead, buyers should base their offers on the property's current performance, also known as the trailing 12 months. By doing this, buyers can make informed decisions and ensure they're not overpaying for a property based on future potential instead of actual performance.

    • Prepare for property pricing negotiations with brokersBe prepared with calculations, write offers, provide backup, communicate effectively, and seek advice from other brokers if needed.

      When negotiating property pricing with a broker, it's essential to be prepared with your own calculations and be willing to put your offer in writing. Be open to providing backup for your pricing and approach the conversation with the broker respectfully. Additionally, make sure the broker shares their market cap rate assessment and consider seeking input from other brokers if there's a significant discrepancy. Effective communication and a clear understanding of market conditions are crucial in the negotiation process. Remember, finding an investor-friendly agent can be a valuable asset in navigating the real estate market. Use BiggerPockets Agent Finder to connect with local market experts and increase your chances of success in your real estate investing journey. Always consult with qualified advisors before making investment decisions.

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