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    A Hard Fork in the Road: FTX’s Unraveling and Elon’s Loyalty Oath

    enNovember 18, 2022

    Podcast Summary

    • FTX Crisis: From Accounting Error to Potential FraudThe FTX crisis has evolved from a potential accounting error to a potential fraud situation, with reports of a shortfall of up to $10 billion and potentially over a million people unable to retrieve their funds.

      The collapse of FTX, as we've discussed on Hard Fork with Kevin Russo from the New York Times and Casey Newton from Platformer, has revealed what appears to be extremely deceptive behavior from the cryptocurrency exchange. The situation has evolved from a potential accounting error to a solvency crisis, with reports of a shortfall of up to $10 billion and potentially over a million people unable to retrieve their funds. This is not a simple liquidity crisis, but a more severe situation where FTX's assets may not exist or have lost significant value, leaving the company with more debts than assets. The implications of this crisis extend beyond FTX and could lead to further investigations and potential charges. The story has shifted from a crypto Lehman Brothers situation to one involving crypto and fraud. The fallout from this collapse will likely result in increased scrutiny of the cryptocurrency industry and may lead to documentaries, memes, and investigations for years to come.

    • FTX Bankruptcy Reveals Missing Billions and Criminal InvestigationsFTX's bankruptcy exposes billions in missing funds and potential criminal charges against the company and its executives due to misuse of customer funds for affiliated hedge fund's trading.

      The recent bankruptcy of FTX, a cryptocurrency exchange, has revealed that a significant portion of the company's reported assets were essentially worthless digital coins, leading to billions of dollars being frozen and potentially missing. The SEC and Justice Department are investigating the company and its executives, including Sam Bankman-Freed, for potential criminal charges. FTX reportedly used customer funds to lend to its affiliated hedge fund, Alameda Research, which used the money for its own trading. The exact amount of missing funds and the timeline of when and why this occurred are still unclear. The bankruptcy proceedings are being overseen by John Ray, who previously oversaw Enron's bankruptcy. Ray has stated that he has never seen such a lack of financial controls and reliable information in his career. The balance sheet FTX provided in an attempt to secure emergency funding was met with skepticism and was described as one of the craziest things some had ever seen. The outcome for customers hoping to get their money back is uncertain and could take a long time.

    • FTX's Precarious Financial Situation RevealedFTX faced a $8B deficit, overvalued assets, and questionable use of customer funds, leading to a concerning financial situation in the crypto market crash.

      FTX, a major cryptocurrency exchange, found itself in a precarious financial situation due to a number of red flags on its balance sheet. The balance sheet, which was far from typical, listed $900 million in liquid assets but $9 billion in liabilities, resulting in a concerning one to ten ratio. The exchange's largest asset, Serum, a cryptocurrency created by FTX, was overvalued by billions, while an internal account labeled "hidden, poorly internally labeled fiat" contained a shocking $8 billion deficit. Alameda Research, a hedge fund affiliated with FTX, reportedly used customer funds to make payments on loans, exacerbating the issue. These revelations came to light following the crypto market crash earlier this year, which left FTX struggling to stay afloat amidst a sea of losses. The events serve as a reminder of the risks involved in the volatile world of cryptocurrency and the importance of transparency and sound financial practices.

    • FTX's Role as a Stable Player During Crypto Market TurmoilDespite appearing as a savior during crypto market instability, FTX's financial instability and use of customer funds without transparency raised concerns

      During the crypto market turmoil, FTX was perceived as a stable player, bailing out troubled crypto companies and restoring faith in the ecosystem. However, it later emerged that FTX itself was in financial distress and had been bailing out other companies when they had no money left, using customer funds without transparency. The culture of FTX was reportedly intense, with some employees using stimulants to work long hours, and there were rumors of a polycule living situation among executives. An FTX employee who spoke to the media was George Lerner, a psychiatrist and the company's in-house performance coach. Lerner confirmed some of the rumors but downplayed their significance, stating that Adderall use was no more prevalent at FTX than at other tech companies and that the executives' living arrangements were consensual and not related to work. However, the lack of transparency around FTX's financial situation and its use of customer funds raised serious concerns.

    • FTX employees' private lives debunk myths of wild partiesDespite FTX's wild party image, employees spent their free time quietly playing board games, chess, and working long hours.

      The image of FTX employees as part of wild and extravagant parties was a misconception. The in-house psychiatrist revealed that they spent their spare time playing board games, chess, and working long hours, leading insular lives within the firm. Another shocking revelation came from Sam Bankman-Fried's Twitter DMs with a Vox reporter, where he dismissed the importance of regulations and admitted that his philanthropic reputation was just a facade. These revelations add to the complexity of the ongoing FTX scandal, highlighting the need for transparency and accountability within the industry.

    • FTX Scandal: Real-life Impacts Beyond CryptoThe FTX scandal involving Sam Bankman-Fried and Alameda Research has far-reaching consequences, affecting philanthropies, charities, and real people's lives, with bankruptcy proceedings expected to take years to resolve.

      Sam Bankman-Fried, a prominent figure in the effective altruism and crypto communities, has been accused of misusing customer deposits at FTX to fund risky bets through his trading firm Alameda Research. He admitted to "messy accounting" and trying to save the company by raising $8 billion in two weeks, despite no longer having any role at FTX and the company declaring bankruptcy. The consequences of this scandal go beyond the crypto world, affecting philanthropies and charities that received funds from Bankman-Fried's groups. The ripple effects are expected to have real and long-lasting impacts on people's lives. The bankruptcy proceedings will involve identifying creditors and attempting to claw back lost money, which could take years to resolve. The scandal serves as a reminder that behind the headlines and financial drama, there are real people and organizations that will bear the consequences.

    • Elon Musk's Email Demands Loyalty from Twitter EmployeesElon Musk's leadership at Twitter demands total commitment from employees, with long hours, high expectations, and automatic termination for those who don't fill out a loyalty pledge form.

      Elon Musk's leadership at Twitter has brought about a new era of intense commitment and loyalty, with employees facing long hours and high expectations to avoid being laid off. This was exemplified by an email from Musk, which required employees to pledge their commitment by filling out a Google form or face automatic termination. The email said nothing about specific job changes, but was seen by some as a loyalty oath. This came after a period of transition during which communication from the top was scarce and many employees were let go. Additionally, Musk's public criticism of an engineer on Twitter led to a resignation and a wave of firings for perceived disloyalty. The new Twitter 2.0 is shaping up to be a 24/7 operation demanding total commitment.

    • Elon Musk's Leadership Style at TwitterMusk's controversial leadership at Twitter resulted in employee firings, tense work environment, and uncertainty, highlighting the importance of clear and respectful communication in the workplace.

      Elon Musk's leadership style at Twitter has been controversial and has resulted in numerous employee firings. Musk's approach to communication and his perceived paranoia have led to a tense work environment, with some employees feeling alienated and uncertain about their jobs. The lack of clear communication regarding company policies has added to the confusion and unease. Despite Musk's talents and accomplishments, his behavior as a boss has been a source of concern for many Twitter employees. The ongoing debates and conflicts between Musk and the team have raised questions about the impact on the company's morale and productivity. Ultimately, the situation underscores the importance of open and respectful communication in the workplace.

    • Elon Musk's Unconventional Leadership at TwitterElon Musk's unconventional behavior at Twitter, including ignoring expert advice, mass layoffs, and mocking critics, has resulted in a significant loss of talent and expertise and a backlash from advertisers. The lack of transparency and communication from Musk has caused uncertainty and fear among employees and advertisers.

      Elon Musk's behavior at Twitter, including ignoring expert advice, mass layoffs, and mocking critics on social media, has led to a crisis at the company. This has resulted in a significant loss of talent and expertise, as well as a backlash from advertisers. Musk's actions have been described as akin to a "Kamikaze pilot," as he seems determined to bring down the company despite the consequences. The lack of transparency and communication from Musk and Twitter has caused uncertainty and fear among employees and advertisers alike. The situation raises concerns about the leadership and direction of Twitter under Musk's control.

    • Elon Musk's Actions Towards Twitter: Intentions UnclearElon Musk's decisions towards Twitter have raised concerns about his intentions, with some speculating a buyback at a lower cost, while others believe in his ability to turn it around. However, letting go of top talent, rushing out features, and ignoring content moderation have some worried about the future of the platform.

      Elon Musk's actions towards Twitter have raised concerns about his intentions, with some speculating that he may be trying to tank the company to buy it back at a lower cost. However, others believe that Musk's self-confidence and belief in his ability to turn Twitter around make this a misinterpretation. Regardless, Musk's decisions to let go of top talent, rush out features, and ignore content moderation have some worrying about the future of the platform. The possibility of a Twitter collapse has led some to consider alternative social media options. Yet, despite these concerns, it's unclear what would replace Twitter if it were to disappear, as it has long been a central hub for journalists, politicians, and everyday users to share and discuss world events.

    • Users may consider diversifying their social media presenceUsers may seek out alternatives to Twitter due to the arrival of new competitors or the continued presence of controversial figures, leading them to manage their social media consumption more effectively.

      The dominance of Twitter in the social media landscape may be challenged, and users may consider diversifying their presence on other platforms due to the potential arrival of new, Twitter-like alternatives or the continued presence of controversial figures like Donald Trump. The user in the discussion expresses frustration with the complexity of existing alternatives like Mastodon and prefers to focus on easier-to-use platforms like TikTok. The ongoing presence of Trump on Twitter, who has announced his intention to run for president in 2024, adds to the sense of overwhelming content on the platform. As a result, users may look for alternatives to manage their social media consumption and engagement more effectively.

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    this is really the beginning of your entrepreneurial journey. have can you think back at a time that you really had to face a big challenge in your business life? And that was probably nerve racking. Was there something like that or did you just sail through very smoothly?

     

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    There was no selling involved except the kind I did on the war. There was there were there are pivots all the time there are challenges always being presented, whether working for a company deciding whether or not that's what I really liked doing enjoy doing and was getting out of it. What is would contribute to my growth path and career path, both personally and financially. But, you know, if there was one thing that that happened that may have, well, like I said, there are multiple pivot points. After three years of going to tennis businesses, a family friend, who saw what I was doing asked me to come work for him for his company, because he was at a at a juncture where he wanted somebody with what he saw with a kind of independent skills that I possessed in growing my stores, and he wanted me to join his company and he made me the proverbial offer I could not refuse. And my partner accepted a buyout where I was able to sell my interest in my sporting stores to my friend and partner at the time. And I went off to on this next journey of mine, which was really the next second path or third path after teaching to my sporting goods store, to being a manager and a salesperson for this jewelry manufacturing company. And I was making more money than I could have thought of I was I was doing really well. I was working very hard two weeks traveling a lot. visiting customers and then two weeks managing factory and overseeing orders. I was learning a lot about manufacturing, distribution, managing people, and I was learning more about the things I enjoyed doing the things I didn't enjoy doing. Once again gravitating to those relationships. I enjoyed the sales process. I enjoyed marketing, finding customers, and then engaging with them. And so after two years with this company I had that I received a bonus from them at a Christmas time which was very generous at the time. And like I said I was doing very well I was still in my 20s making more money than I really thought I would be making had a very good life as busy as it might have might have been with the work environment. But I also know that the owners and the company as soon as I was aware of the finances, they benefited tremendously as well as they should because they own the company. They are the risk takers, and that's something else I appreciated and learned early on from having my own small business that I went to the owner and I said to him, I said look, I really enjoy working here. But I really think I deserve a raise even though I've been making good money and being paid fairly. And he said something to me which carried me through which is kind of like the answer to your question about you know, things that that you learn and things that help you identify the pivot points in your life, should they should they be faced the old Yogi Berra when you come to a fork in the road taking? And so at this point, I said, you know, I think I deserve a raise. And he said to me, he said Paul, I'm going to tell you this and take it for whatever it's worth. It goes. When you work for me, I will make sure you're paid more than anybody else will pay you. But know this you will never make what you think you're worth. If you don't work for yourself. And so I took that to heart because that again, exemplify that whole aspect of risk taking. You could win you could lose when you take risks, but if you're but if a company succeeds you you you are going to and you will benefit more than you would otherwise. And so I took that to heart and I quit.

     

    Sabine  8:27 

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    Paul 10:39 

    I quit the job and I ended up going to work for a competitor of his that allowed me to work for half the time doing only the sales part of the job not any of the factory manufacturing distribution, employee management part of things that I was doing so I worked two weeks a month traveling around engaging customers doing sales and then the other two weeks. Basically I was off just waiting and planning my next two weeks of customer journey. So that was a very successful venture that allowed me to make enough money to put aside and then go to my next venture which after I got tired of the traveling, which started wearing on me. I had another friend who was in the restaurant business and he wanted to he was in the bar business and he wants to have a really nice upscale restaurant that he had designed in his mind. And he asked me if I wanted to become involved with him. Not because I knew anything about restaurants. Unlike a lot of doctors and lawyers who go out to eat and think they can be in the restaurant business. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't I don't suggest people do that. Just because you eat out. You can't be in the restaurant business. And but I stayed in my lane. I knew what I liked doing. I liked the whole aspect of identifying maybe the location and the business aspects and dealing with the vendors. And dealing with the customers having absolutely nothing to do with the food and beverage part of the business. That was my partner. And it was a good it was a good marriage. It lasted 12 years we built the restaurant that in 1979 that I feel very, very proud about even though I exited in 1990 About 12 years later. That was it was a great success for me, both financially personally and any other kind of business was it

     

    Sabine  12:24 

    What kind of restaurant was it an upscale seafood

     

    Paul 12:28 

    steakhouse about 75 miles north of New York City and it is still open today. So we're talking 2144 years later for a restaurant to be in business 44 years is pretty impressive. And again, I was only in it for the first 12 of those years but I found that it and the menu and the concept that we developed still there in place today and I learned how to 10 bar and I learned how to cook then I learned how to wash dishes. And I did all those things because that's the way that I am about something. But that wasn't the job that I had with that business. I dealt with the people for the most part and the vendors. That's what I enjoyed doing. And you have to learn early on what hats you like to wear and what hat you don't like. Absolutely and when I sold that business, yeah, when I sold that business, that's when I went on and that's at a point shortly thereafter, is when I founded my software company because I kind of went back to my math roots to decide what I wanted to do in my next phase of life.

     

    Sabine 13:26 

    Talking about the next phase in your life. I see from our conversation, you you got the entrepreneurial bug so to speak, and we're always looking for new opportunities growing out of the one business and to an next business. With all of that said I kind of have the feeling you are you can can be I don't know if you are like a workaholic, you're really focusing on the business. But we also know life and business has to be imbalanced that your personal life and the business. Did you see or did you have an experience that your business life took over and you had challenges in your personal life, either health relationship or whatnot?

     

    Paul 14:20 

    Sabine it's a great question. Probably one better asked of my wife than me. You know, God bless her are married 30 years now. She's put up with an awful lot.

     

    Sabine 14:31 

    Congratulations.

     

    Paul 14:32 

    Thank you. Congratulate me and please give her all your sympathy. So she she's put up with a lot. And because I get passionate about something and then you know, I may may want to pivot and do something else and and I don't want your audience or you to think that this was a trajectory in my life. There was that took those 12 years that were very successful in the restaurant business. I relocated from New York to Florida because I wanted to play tennis more. And I wasn't working that much in the restaurant. My partner, it was functioning just fine without me really. And so my parents really look retired and moved to Florida. So I decided to follow them and not only to be near them as they were aging, but also because financially I was able to afford to to be where I wanted to be. And I wanted to be someplace I could play more tennis. So I moved to Florida, but then when I got there after several months, I said well what's all going to do when he grows up and had to figure out what I wanted to do in the most recent successful thing that I did was the restaurant business. So I opened up a restaurant in Florida, in Delray Beach, Florida. That was a beautiful restaurant kind of copying my restaurant in New York. But I wasn't very smart or wise about the market and the research and also the partnerships I developed in creating this restaurant. And so what I made in 12 years in New York I lost in one year in Florida. And it was a it was a situation that result in bankruptcy. And, again, I don't say that proudly or negatively. I say that because that was just the circumstance the way it was. And that's when I have to back fail. That's when I bounce back to my roots of the education and the mathematics and computers.

     

    Sabine 16:13 

    I let me let me interrupt you right there because I think this is a very important point for for my listeners to understand. And that goes back to the advice the other one of your bosses gave you to say, hey, go in your own business, you will get all the rewards, but you also have to carry all the risks. And believe me, I know what you went through because I did the same thing. I had a very successful performing art school, but then I ventured out into something that I was not really educated in, going into real estate and invested wrong time. Wrong area wrong everything basically. And I lost everything that I worked for those years. I know exactly. What you what you said. And I, too, had to go through bankruptcy. And I want our listeners to understand that. Yes, you take risks and you make mistakes. We all make mistakes. That's how we grow but I also truly believe if we don't take this as a oh my gosh, now I've failed. Oh my gosh, The World Ends no but take this as the stepping stone to our next greatest self. And I would like to know from you, Paul, when you went through there, first of all, number one, how did you feel about the whole situation? And what helped you because I'm sure losing everything that you made in 12 years is painful. How did you get through that? Time of Your Life to that pain and turn it around to make it a stepping stone for your success?

     

    Paul 18:07 

    So a great observation question, Sabine. And the answer for me was very simple. I had wonderful people around me people that supported me, and not just financially although that was an element that helped me go day to day until I find my next path. But family and friends that were there to support me who were as confident in me as I was in me that I was going to get through that phase of a financial setback, which is all it was, well, that's not true. It's also somewhat of an emotional one that I like use that invested in the wrong market at the wrong time. Even though my restaurant was very successful. We have great four star reviews right at the beginning, but it was a market in South Florida that I didn't understand that well. I had people around me, people around me that believed in me. I believed in me, I figured okay, this just didn't work out what's next. And I looked for different, different avenues to explore. You know, some things were presented to me some things I looked for, which is really where I am today and actually the last 30 years looking for different opportunities to go back to your original point and question about you know, the not and this as well, about the having the people around you so I had my wife she when she sees me these days, and over the last 20 years or so, as companies were approaching me to market and serve and support their products with trying to help them grow. I would I would look at it first and make sure it was something I could get passionate about. And that I would believe in so that I can really get behind it because that was absolutely number one important to me before I took on a job or invested in something. And so when I would typically be in my home office, which is where I am today talking to you and your audience, and I would call into the other room in the house and I deal to Maureen my wife, and I say Hey, honey, come here. Come take a look at this because I found something that was interesting to me. Well, invariably, she learned over the years not to come into my office and said she would go ahead and cut up my credit cards and hide the bank account. Because she said oh here we go again. Paul's going to invest in something crazy. But she's been very supportive over the years and this particular wall printing machine or vertical printing machine as it's called. When she saw this she kind of dug it to and again to your audience. One thing I didn't mention early on and as we become a conversation, he spent 15 seconds to 30 seconds on my company's website, the wall printer.com You'll learn everything there is to know about what I'm doing. And it was a machine that was just fascinating to me and she said, Okay, you can sell this and even though it was the same reaction you had Sabine never seen anything like it. I just figured if I could create business opportunities for people, and it solved the problem putting artwork on walls in a different way. And there was a market for it that I could articulate this to people and help them thrive in their business journeys by making a business out of this. Yeah, so so for that for that reason, you know, I look for things like that, that I can get passionate about. But ultimately, the whole journey it's because I've had just wonderful people in my network. And and that's really what I've done my whole life really is all of these jobs that I've had and all these businesses I've created or supported, had the role I've taken the hat I chose to wear because I think I was very good at it was those relationship building hats. I wasn't good and still I'm not good in the financial aspects. Still not very good in legal still not very not good. In managing hiring and firing. Although I've been blessed with a very good team. I've got 15 people working for me. Let's see,

     

    Sabine  21:59 

    that's what it's all about. You don't have to be a master in every aspect. But if you have a good team around you that can handle that. Hey, that's all you need. You are the creator. You are the one with the ideas.

     

    Paul  22:17 

    What makes a good leader. It's very simple. It's somebody who's smart enough to hire the best people to do a job but wise enough to back off and let them do it. I love it. I love it. And so people people who think that they can do everything, you know, maybe you can Okay, but that doesn't mean you should know business. I mean, I couldn't possibly support the customers. We have 120 customers today. I've got a team of three people that deals with the customer and technical support. Even though I know everything there is to know about the machines and how to service them. I can't be doing that and also having a conversation like this with you or a potential customer. I can't be doing the social media marketing and video production necessary to let people know what is a vertical printing machine or a fluid printing machine and create those ads in him deliver the message so to speak of what this business opportunity can offer. And so people are doing that that are better qualified than I am and I just back off and let them do it right and hopefully try to keep it all together.

     

    Sabine 23:20 

    So that was a very insightful conversation. If you could leave our listeners with like one or two tips or pieces of advice that would help them get through a, you know, challenging situation. What would you tell them?

     

    Paul  23:46 

    Don't look within yourself and look to your network. Look, you know, just seek counsel. And what I mean by that. I don't mean necessarily psychological counseling. I mean, seek counsel from people you trust. For whose opinions your value, you know, tell them what your situation is, be honest. And tell them either what you think you'd like to do or why something may have not gone the way you wanted it to or what you're looking for. And and then just you know, leverage the network you have yours whether you think you have a network or not. You do there's got to be somebody out there with a family or friends or colleagues current former that understand you maybe better than you understand you and so take for granted the fact that somebody else is happy to offer that you know, there's the same be Be nice to the people you see on the way up because they're the same people you're going to see on the way down.

     

    Sabine 24:48 

    I like that. Thank you Paul for sharing your story tips and wisdom with our listeners today.

     

    Paul 24:55 

    Thank you for being I appreciate the opportunity to talk to you and your audience.

     

    Sabine  24:58 

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