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    Activist Investors are Acting Up

    enJanuary 12, 2024

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    • Mixed inflation data and Fed focusUncertainty surrounds immediate interest rate cuts due to the Fed's focus on job market and inflation concerns, despite mixed inflation data.

      Despite the release of mixed inflation data, with the Consumer Price Index (CPI) showing a slight increase and the Producer Price Index (PPI) unexpectedly declining, the likelihood of immediate interest rate cuts remains uncertain. The Federal Reserve is focused on maintaining a strong job market and addressing inflation concerns, suggesting that any rate cuts may not occur until later in the year. Additionally, three pandemic darlings faced significant stock declines due to activist investor pressure, with Twilio's CEO stepping down as a result. These events underscore the ongoing impact of macroeconomic factors and investor dynamics on individual companies.

    • Activist investors targeting underperforming segments in pandemic-boom companiesActivist investors are focusing on companies with bloated business models, underperforming segments, and slowing growth, aiming to slim down operations and boost profitability.

      Activist investors are targeting companies, like Twilio and Match Group, which have experienced rapid growth during the pandemic but have failed to effectively manage costs and improve profitability. Twilio, in particular, has seen its valuation drop significantly due to its bloated business model, with underperforming segments identified as potential areas for cost-cutting. The new management team at Twilio is expected to accelerate these changes, but it remains to be seen how much of the company will be slimmed down. Match Group, another company facing activist interest, is also under pressure to revitalize its flagship app, Tinder, due to slowing growth and an aging user base. If Elliott Management were to take a similar approach to Match Group as they might with Twilio, they would likely focus on reinvigorating Tinder to boost growth and profitability.

    • Match Group's focus on monetizing existing payersElliott Management supports Match Group's strategy of increasing ARPP by monetizing existing payers, potentially influencing DocuSign's shift towards profitability and interest in a takeover

      Match Group's strategy of focusing on monetizing their existing paying users, despite a decline in the number of payers, has been successful in increasing average revenue per payer. Elliott Management, an activist investor led by Paul Singer, seems to be supportive of this strategy and may even encourage acceleration. The potential interest in taking DocuSign private could be due to its shift from a growth story to a cash flow and profitability story. However, it's important to note that the DocuSign takeover rumors are still speculative. Effective activist investors like Elliott Management are preferred as they focus on improving companies for the long term, rather than just seeking short-term gains.

    • Private equity firms eye DocuSign for growth potentialDespite economic uncertainties, DocuSign's strong cash flow and growth potential attract private equity interest, highlighting the importance of a business's fundamentals.

      The ongoing M&A interest in DocuSign, despite uncertain deal pricing, reflects investors' optimistic assumptions about the company's potential value. DocuSign, which has consistently produced cash, stands out as an attractive target for private equity firms, who are sitting on substantial cash reserves due to the current economic climate. The active bidding war between two private equity firms underscores the potential for growth and improvement within the business. Despite the recent decline in DocuSign's stock price, the company's strong cash flow and potential for improvement make it an attractive investment opportunity. The resurgence of private equity activity, despite economic uncertainties, highlights the potential for deals in the market. Overall, the DocuSign situation underscores the importance of a business's fundamentals and potential for growth, even in a challenging economic environment.

    • JPMorgan's Profitable Year Amidst Banking CrisisJPMorgan's strong net interest income, driven by acquisitions, helped it outperform competitors despite crisis-related fee declines. WD-forty surprised with a 13% stock pop on good but not extraordinary Q1 results, but its high valuation is a concern.

      JPMorgan stood out among the banks with its most profitable year ever, despite a significant decline in quarterly earnings due to crisis-related fees. The bank's strong net interest income, bolstered by the acquisition of First Republic, set it apart from competitors like Bank of America, which saw a 50% decline in earnings, and Citibank, which plans to cut 22,000 jobs. Meanwhile, Wells Fargo reported a 9% increase in earnings due to cost cuts, but net interest income was down, and guidance was weak. WD-forty, a company not typically discussed on the show, surprised with a 13% stock pop after reporting good, but not extraordinary, Q1 results. The stock's high valuation, trading at 50-51 times forward guidance, is a potential concern. As more companies report earnings in late January and early February, Emily will be paying close attention to net interest income, as well as any signs of inflation or supply chain disruptions impacting companies' financials.

    • Chinese competitor BYD surpasses Tesla in car deliveriesBYD's lower production and selling costs make them a formidable competitor to Tesla in the electric vehicle market. Investors will watch earnings season for updates on competition and consumer spending trends.

      The electric vehicle market is heating up with Chinese competitor BYD surpassing Tesla in car deliveries. This is significant as Tesla has held the top spot since its inception. BYD is able to produce and sell their cars at lower costs, making them a formidable competitor. As earnings season approaches, investors will be watching closely to see how Tesla and other companies address this competition, both in China and globally. Another key focus will be on consumer spending and savings, as the market is not particularly cheap and interest rates remain a concern. Retail and e-commerce earnings will also be closely watched for signs of inventory management and promotional activity. Additionally, the impact of the buy now, pay later movement on consumer spending will be an interesting development to follow.

    • Exploring the Impact of Parasocial Relationships and Quick Wealth Desire on Financial DecisionsThe documentary 'This is Not Financial Advice' highlights the dangers of risky financial behavior driven by parasocial relationships and a desire for quick wealth, particularly among younger Americans frustrated with wealth inequality and low interest rates.

      Learning from the discussion on Motley Fool Money about the documentary "This is Not Financial Advice" is that the film explores how parasocial relationships and a desire for quick wealth are impacting people's financial decisions. The documentary follows the story of Pro the Doge, who made a large bet on Dogecoin and became a millionaire, but also shows the potential dangers of such risk-taking behavior. Pro, who is affable and lovable, is an undocumented immigrant who felt there was no ladder to climb to the middle class, so he looked for a trampoline instead. His behavior is not unique, as millions of Americans are frustrated with wealth inequality and low interest rates, leading to a lack of trust in traditional institutions. The film also features other characters with different approaches to wealth building, highlighting the complexities of financial decision-making in today's world. Overall, the documentary sheds light on the systemic causes of risky financial behavior and the growing financial nihilism among younger Americans.

    • Two contrasting approaches to wealth building and the stock marketReflect on your relationship with money, risk-taking, and motivation. Consider the importance of a well-thought-out, long-term investment strategy to avoid the dangers of impulsive decisions and FOMO.

      The documentary "The Stockholmers" explores the contrasting perspectives of two characters, Pro and Sanai, towards wealth building and the stock market. While Pro represents a more impulsive, high-risk approach, Sanai embodies a long-term, low-risk strategy. Both characters share similar backgrounds but are motivated by their desire to build something bigger than themselves. The film also highlights the influence of social media on our perception of wealth and the danger of FOMO (Fear of Missing Out). Pro's rapid gains in Dogecoin during filming serve as a reminder of the unpredictable nature of the markets and the potential risks involved in chasing quick wealth. Ultimately, the film encourages viewers to reflect on their own relationship with money, risk-taking, and motivation, and to consider the importance of a well-thought-out, long-term investment strategy.

    • From joke to belief: Proe's journey in the Dogecoin worldProe's immersion in the crypto community, monetization of his persona, and influence on followers reveal the power of belief and FOMO in crypto investments, while also highlighting the economic struggles and disillusionment with traditional markets among young people.

      The film "The Doge Father" explores the shift from seeing Dogecoin as a joke to a genuine belief in its potential future value. This transformation occurs when Proe, the film's protagonist, becomes fully immersed in the crypto community, surrounded only by true believers, creating an echo chamber of perpetuating decisions. Additionally, Pro's monetization of his "Doge Father" persona through sponsorships and marketing spend from crypto companies fueled his financial gains. However, this period also reveals a darker side as Pro now influences his large following to invest in Dogecoin, making it challenging for the average investor to navigate the new world of crypto with its powerful fear of missing out (FOMO) factor. Furthermore, the film touches on the nihilism and disbelief towards traditional markets as a wealth-building tool for young people, who face real struggles with college debt, home affordability, and stagnant wages. This nihilism is rooted in the current economic climate where wealth is concentrated among those who already have it.

    • Young people's reliance on social media for financial infoSocial media can provide misleading or inaccurate financial info, leading to unrealistic expectations and potentially harming financial education for young people.

      The way young people are consuming financial information, primarily through social media, is contributing to unrealistic expectations and potentially damaging their financial education. The speaker, who is the director of a documentary about the financial industry, shares that during their research, they found that a large percentage of young people rely on social media platforms like TikTok and YouTube for financial information. This is concerning because the information they're receiving is often misleading or inaccurate, and can lead to unrealistic expectations about returns and investing. The documentary, "The Broken Market: Sponsored Finance and the Demise of the American Dream," explores this issue in more depth and highlights the role that sponsored financial education plays in perpetuating this problem. It's important for young people to seek out reliable sources of financial information and to be skeptical of the ads and promises they see online. Meanwhile, the hosts of the podcast discuss the discontinuation of Fruit Stripe Gum and share their fond memories of the candy. Despite their nostalgia, they acknowledge that it's just sugar and move on to discuss stocks on their radar.

    • Investment opportunities in declining gum sales marketConsider investing in Despegar.com, a leading online travel agency in Latin America, and On Holdings, a footwear business with a strong market presence and expanding into premium athletic apparel.

      Despite the decline in gum sales and the emergence of new competitors, there are still interesting investment opportunities in the market. For instance, Despegar.com, a leading online travel agency in Latin America, has a strong presence in the region and generates revenue primarily through commissions and volume incentives. Although it's smaller compared to industry giants like Booking Holdings and Expedia, it's worth considering due to its market strength. Another intriguing investment is On Holdings, a footwear business that has gained popularity and attention since its IPO in 2019. Despite initial skepticism due to the trendy nature of footwear, the increasing sales of athletic wear have caught my attention. With a valuation of $9 billion, On Holdings is a significant player in the footwear industry, and its expansion into premium athletic apparel is a promising sign. However, both Despegar and On Holdings face competition and market saturation, so it's essential to understand what sets them apart from competitors.

    • Running shoe company's success through innovative tech and marketingInnovative technology and effective marketing can create a desirable product and generate significant sales, as seen with a running shoe company's success despite skepticism

      Some companies, like the one discussed in this week's Multiple Money Radio Show, use innovative technology and effective marketing strategies to create a desirable product and generate significant sales. The show's guests, Emily Flippen and Ron Gross, discussed a running shoe company that claims to use a proprietary Cloud Tech Technology, making it feel like running on clouds. Despite the speaker's reservations, the company's shoes have gained immense popularity among consumers, as evidenced by their widespread recognition and sales in retail stores like REI. While some may say such sales tactics are manipulative, the success of these companies speaks for itself. Consumers continue to buy into the hype, and in the end, it's the market that decides the value of a product.

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