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    Airbnb’s Vlad Loktev on embracing chaos, inquiry over advocacy, poking the bear, and “impact, impact, impact” (Partner at Index Ventures, Airbnb GM/VP Product)

    enSeptember 01, 2024
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    Podcast Summary

    • Open communication and inquiryEffective product management requires open communication and inquiry to address issues and drive growth. Constructive feedback and a mindset of continuous improvement are essential for building strong relationships and fostering a culture of innovation.

      Key takeaway from this conversation with Vlad Loctev is the importance of open communication and inquiry in effective product management. Vlad shares how he learned from his experience managing the speaker, Joe, that calling out the elephant in the room, even if it's uncomfortable, is crucial for addressing issues and driving growth in organizations. Vlad's ability to appreciate and respond well to constructive feedback allowed him to build strong relationships and foster a culture of continuous improvement. Additionally, Vlad emphasizes the significance of impact and the mindset of always striving for growth and innovation in product development. Throughout his career, Vlad has demonstrated these skills and behaviors, leading to his success as a product manager and leader at Airbnb and beyond.

    • Making a Meaningful ImpactFocus on the top priorities of the company, immerse in business drivers, say no to non-impactful projects, and maintain focus on things within control to make a significant dent in the organization.

      Having a mindset focused on making a meaningful impact is crucial for success in a professional setting. The speaker emphasized the importance of aligning one's work with the top priorities of the company and striving to make a significant dent in those priorities. They also recommended immersing oneself in understanding the drivers of the business and being willing to say no to non-impactful projects or tasks. The speaker's experience at Airbnb illustrates the power of this mindset, as they consistently focused on the hardest problems and drove impactful solutions. However, as organizations grow, it can be easy to get bogged down in dependencies and distractions. To avoid this, it's essential to maintain a focus on the things within one's control and use tools like back-of-the-envelope math and saying no to non-impactful projects to stay on track.

    • Balance inquiry and advocacyEffectively communicate and lead by striking a balance between asking questions and sharing opinions, prioritizing impactful contributions, and engaging in open, honest dialogue.

      Effective communication and impactful leadership involve a balance between inquiry and advocacy. Begin conversations with questions, showing curiosity and a willingness to learn. However, don't be afraid to voice your opinions and challenge the status quo when necessary, even if it means "poking the bear." By doing so, you can bring valuable insights to the table and drive positive change for your organization. Additionally, prioritize impact above all else and consider the levers that can help you make a significant contribution to your company's goals. Remember, the key is to engage in open, honest dialogue while remaining respectful and solution-focused.

    • Mental resilience for hyper-growth leadersAccept what cannot be changed, focus on impact, use tools like the serenity prayer and a 'shit bucket' to manage priorities, and build a team with diverse skills and expertise.

      Being a successful leader in a rapidly growing company involves not only technical skills but also mental resilience. The speaker emphasized the importance of accepting what cannot be changed and focusing on what can be done in the moment to make an impact. He also suggested using tools like the serenity prayer and a "shit bucket" to help manage priorities and let go of things that are out of control. The speaker also highlighted the importance of building a team with individuals who excel in specific areas, rather than trying to find jack-of-all-trades. This approach allows for a diverse range of skills and expertise, leading to greater team success. Overall, the speaker's experiences and advice underscore the importance of mental fortitude and effective team building in navigating the challenges of leading a team in a hyper-growth company.

    • Leadership skillsEffective leaders possess skills like connecting teams, influencing others, maintaining a high bar, and focusing on main priorities to excel in their roles. Influence and maintaining a high bar are crucial for team motivation and quality work. Prioritization is essential for scaling organizations and achieving long-term goals.

      Effective leaders possess a unique set of skills and mindsets that enable them to excel in their roles. These include the ability to connect teams, influence others, maintain a high bar, and focus on the main priorities. Influence, for instance, is a powerful skill that allows leaders to get things done and keep their teams motivated. Maintaining a high bar, on the other hand, ensures that the team delivers quality work. Focusing on the main priorities and letting go of distractions are essential for staying productive and achieving long-term goals. When it comes to scaling organizations, setting priorities is key. Leaders must learn to let some fires burn while putting out others that could derail the team's progress. They must also empower their teams to make decisions and prioritize their work. However, there are some things that should never be let to burn, such as major timelines, strategic disagreements, and senior hire processes. By mastering these skills and understanding when to apply them, leaders can build successful teams and drive growth.

    • Leadership PrioritizationEffective leadership involves prioritizing critical issues, trusting team to handle less pressing matters, communicating openly, and embracing a bit of chaos for creativity and innovation.

      As a leader, it's important to prioritize and let some fires burn while addressing others with urgency. This means focusing on the most critical issues and trusting your team to handle less pressing matters. The speaker, who had a decade of experience at Airbnb, shared that delaying hiring or not fully engaging in the hiring process of senior team members could have long-term negative consequences. However, she also acknowledged that sometimes it's necessary to let certain projects or product launches burn a bit longer to gain a better understanding of the situation before taking action. Communication is also crucial, especially for introverted leaders who may prefer to work behind the scenes. Sharing context and decisions with the broader organization can help build trust and foster better decision-making. The speaker emphasized that chaos can be good and even beneficial for driving creativity and innovation in product development. Overall, the key takeaway is to prioritize effectively, trust your team, communicate openly, and embrace a bit of chaos to drive growth and success.

    • Chaos and innovationEmbracing chaos and working under pressure can lead to innovative solutions and creative thinking. Hire people who thrive in fast-paced environments and set big goals to foster innovation.

      Embracing chaos and working under pressure can lead to innovative solutions and creative thinking. Brian Chesky, co-founder of Airbnb, shares an experience of designing a new product in just 24 hours, which forced his team to think outside the box and innovate. However, not everyone thrives under such conditions, and it's essential for leaders to find and hire people who are comfortable with the fast-paced, ever-changing environment of a growing company. Chesky also emphasizes the importance of setting big goals and thinking creatively about how to achieve them, even if it seems daunting or impossible at first. Org design and hiring can be challenging during hypergrowth, as most people won't scale with the company, and it's essential to prepare for the emotional toll of saying goodbye to friends and colleagues. Ultimately, every organizational structure has its pros and cons, and leaders must learn to adapt and find what works best for their team.

    • Company culture and collaborationFocusing on company culture and effective collaboration among employees is essential for success, while reorganizing structure alone may not solve problems. Hire passionate individuals and let them work on priorities that align with their strengths and passions to make an impact.

      While organizing a company and designing its structure is important, it's the people and their ability to work together effectively that truly drives success. Reorganizing the structure alone may not solve problems. Instead, founders should focus on the culture and how people collaborate within the chosen organizational structure. Additionally, hiring individuals who are deeply passionate about the mission is crucial, as skills can be developed. The mission serves as a constant source of motivation during challenging times. To be successful within a company, individuals should aim to work on priorities that align with their strengths and passions, and not waste time in roles where they're not making an impact. Impact should always be the top priority for leaders, and they should be open to asking questions, poking the bear when necessary, and being comfortable with saying no and letting some things burn. Embracing chaos and introducing it intentionally can lead to innovative solutions.

    • Company CultureIntentional culture-building efforts lead to memorable moments and a positive work environment that resonates with employees and fosters long-term success

      Building a strong company culture is crucial for a successful organization. As discussed, when organizing teams, be prepared to face challenges and potentially lose friendships as you make decisions that may not align with others' career goals. Culture, however, should be prioritized above org charts and focus on the people and mission. Memorable moments in a company, such as the human tunnel experience at Airbnb, are often the result of intentional culture-building efforts. Core values should be clearly defined and integrated into every aspect of the organization, from hiring and performance reviews to daily operations. By being intentional and thoughtful about culture, companies can create a positive and productive work environment that resonates with employees and fosters long-term success.

    • Company CultureDefine your company's unique operating style and ensure every team member understands their role and how they contribute to the bigger picture, while allowing for flexibility and input from team members.

      There's no one-size-fits-all approach to how a company should operate. The way Airbnb evolved from a bottom-up, experimentation-driven culture to a more top-down, informed decision-making structure worked for them, but it may not be right for every organization. The key is to explicitly define how your company operates and ensure every team member understands their role and how they contribute to the bigger picture. Top-down doesn't necessarily mean a leader is making decisions in an ivory tower without input from their team. Instead, it can mean a leader is informed and involved in the details, making decisions with the team's input. However, this approach may slow down the release of new products if leaders are required to be in every detail. Ultimately, it's important for leaders to identify which decisions they have the most expertise and edge in and be involved in those areas while delegating others to their team.

    • Strengths and delegationIdentify unique strengths and focus, delegate responsibilities to trusted team members, and maintain a healthy work-life balance to maximize impact and avoid burnout.

      Founders and product managers should identify their unique strengths and focus on areas where they can make the greatest impact. This might involve letting go of certain responsibilities or delegating to trusted team members. The discussion also touched on the evolution of product management roles, specifically the merging of product management and product marketing at Airbnb. While this approach may not be suitable for every organization, it can lead to more strategic and user-centric product development. The conversation also highlighted the importance of balancing work and personal life, as even the most dedicated and successful professionals can experience burnout. Vlad shared a personal story of hitting rock bottom at Airbnb and how rediscovering hobbies and relationships helped him become a more effective leader. In summary, recognizing and leveraging your strengths, embracing change, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance are key lessons for product leaders and professionals seeking to grow in their careers.

    • Perseverance and Risk TakingSuccess often involves a combination of hard work and luck. Don't be too hard on yourself and find ways to unwind like reading or playing games. Keep pushing forward and be open to new experiences and meeting people who challenge your perspective.

      Even when faced with challenges, it's important to keep pushing forward and give your all. As Vlad shared, success often involves a combination of hard work and luck. He emphasized the importance of not being too hard on oneself and recommended reading books like "Red Rising" and playing games like "Gobbler" to unwind. Vlad's favorite show, "Survivor," reflects his adventurous spirit and willingness to take risks. He's an investor who enjoys working with early-stage founders and meeting people who challenge his perspective. A fun fact about Vlad is his dream of appearing on "Survivor." To connect with Vlad, listeners can reach out to him on LinkedIn. He's focused on investing in people and has a soft spot for consumer startups. Overall, Vlad's insights offer valuable lessons for anyone looking to grow as a leader.

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-consistently-go-viral-nikita-bier

    Where to find Nikita Bier:

    • X: https://x.com/nikitabier 

    • Threads: https://www.threads.net/@nikitabier

    • Website: https://intro.co/NikitaBier

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Nikita’s background 

    (06:08) Nikita’s early ventures: Politify and Outline

    (08:42) Transition to consumer apps

    (13:45) The birth of TBH

    (16:43) Building for teens vs. adults

    (20:00) TBH’s viral success

    (32:18) Leveraging live chat

    (34:08) Lasting lessons from TBH

    (37:00) Selling TBH to Facebook

    (42:19) Big-tech product management

    (48:46) Nikita on why “product management is not real”

    (51:49) The Tim Cook painting story

    (53:53) Leaving Facebook and starting a new venture

    (58:02) Rebuilding TBH and overcoming challenges

    (59:46) Addressing criticism

    (01:04:24) The human trafficking hoax

    (01:09:51) Selling to Discord and lessons learned

    (01:11:36) Lasting lessons from Gas

    (01:13:14) Building durable consumer apps

    (01:22:35) The VC route

    (01:23:27) Contact permissions in iOS 18

    (01:26:53) The success of Dupe

    (01:31:53) Advice for startup founders

    (01:34:14) Work with Nikita

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    Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and why you should PM your career like you PM your product | Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry, ex-Facebook, PayPal, eBay)

    Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and why you should PM your career like you PM your product | Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry, ex-Facebook, PayPal, eBay)

    Deb Liu is the CEO of Ancestry and former longtime VP of Product at Facebook. At Facebook, Deb led the creation of Facebook Marketplace, developed the first mobile ad product for apps, built the company’s games business, and launched Facebook Pay. She’s also held leadership roles at PayPal and eBay, serves on the board of Intuit, and is the author of Take Back Your Power. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Why you should PM your career like you PM your product

    • Strategies for incubating new products within large companies

    • Creating a successful 30-60-90-day plan when starting a new job

    • The pitfalls of perfectionism

    • The challenges introverts face in the workplace and how to overcome them

    • The value of resilience and turning failures into stepping stones

    • How to leverage coaching in your career development

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/succeeding-as-an-introvert-deb-liu

    Where to find Deb Liu:

    • Threads: https://www.threads.net/@debliu

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu

    • Substack: https://debliu.substack.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Introduction to Deb Liu

    (02:18) Deb’s career journey and key advice

    (09:45) Navigating new roles and challenges

    (11:27) Overcoming adversity and failure

    (15:07) Building billion-dollar businesses at Facebook

    (19:33) Strategies for zero-to-one innovation

    (23:40) PM your career like a product

    (33:53) Challenges and strategies for introverts in business

    (39:19) Reframing self-promotion

    (42:25) The power of accountability

    (46:15) Growth: a game of inches

    (50:52) The 30-60-90-day plan

    (56:52) Contrarian corner: career and marriage

    (58:57) Final nuggets of wisdom

    (01:03:09) How to find a coach

    (01:04:47) Lightning round

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    Unorthodox PM wisdom: Automating user insights, unselling job candidates, logging every decision, more | Kevin Yien (Stripe, Square, Mutiny)

    Unorthodox PM wisdom: Automating user insights, unselling job candidates, logging every decision, more | Kevin Yien (Stripe, Square, Mutiny)

    Kevin Yien leads product for merchant experiences at Stripe. Before that, he meandered his way from being a technical designer to a product manager, built the restaurants business and ecosystem team at Square, and most recently was head of product and design at Mutiny. He also makes ice cream and teaches for fun. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Why aspiring PMs should start in engineering, design, or sales

    • The importance of writing skills, and how to become a better writer

    • How to automate user research

    • Kevin’s “unsell email” technique for hiring

    • The value of keeping a decision log

    • Insights on AI and its impact on future generations

    • Lessons from failure

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    Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unorthodox-pm-wisdom-kevin-yien

    Where to find Kevin Yien:

    • X: https://x.com/kevinyien

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinyien/

    • Website: https://kevinyien.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Kevin’s background 

    (02:00) The story behind Kevin’s profile picture

    (08:41) The role of a product manager

    (10:48) Getting started in product management

    (12:47) The importance of writing skills

    (15:06) Becoming a better writer

    (19:10) The PM’s role with engineering and design

    (28:41) Drawing the perimeter for your team

    (31:37) Feedback tips

    (35:13) Decision logs and product sense

    (45:36) Unorthodox hiring strategies

    (47:01) The unsell email strategy

    (54:01) Automating user research

    (01:02:27) AI in everyday life

    (01:06:05) Lessons from failure

    (01:14:34) Lightning round

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    Improve strategy, influence, and decision-making by understanding your brain | Evan LaPointe (founder of CORE Sciences)

    Improve strategy, influence, and decision-making by understanding your brain | Evan LaPointe (founder of CORE Sciences)

    Evan LaPointe is the founder of CORE Sciences, which teaches companies and individuals how our brains work and how that translates to improved collaboration, better products, faster decision-making, and more growth. Previously, Evan was the co-founder of Satellite, the fourth-largest analytics company on the internet today (it mostly runs behind the scenes, and pretty much everyone listening will have used it today without knowing it), which was acquired by Adobe, where he later ran product strategy, innovation, and long-range thinking for Adobe’s digital experiences business. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • The three different systems of the brain

    • How knowing this can help you become more influential

    • How understanding different brain states will help you increase productivity and creativity

    • How to improve your vision and strategy skills

    • How to design a work environment that fosters innovation

    • How to build better relationships at work

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/understanding-your-brain-evan-lapointe

    Where to find Evan LaPointe:

    • X: https://x.com/evanlapointe

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanlapointe/

    • Website: https://www.core-sciences.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Evan’s background

    (02:37) Understanding the brain’s complex systems

    (07:17) The three core brain systems: safety, reward, and purpose

    (11:03) Applying brain science to team dynamics

    (14:27) The role of personality in team performance

    (17:27) Creating effective work environments

    (23:16) The science of meetings and decision-making

    (29:35) Enhancing strategy and vision

    (54:46) Understanding personality traits in strategy and vision

    (58:58) Tactical tips for increasing openness

    (01:05:46) Building influence and effective relationships

    (01:21:17) The importance of trust and appeal in relationships

    (01:36:47) Creating a positive organizational habitat

    (01:50:35) Enhancing focus and productivity

    (02:00:58) Practical tips for deep work and gamma time

    (02:07:11) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • The Most Complicated Object in the Universe: https://today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/#

    • The Myers-Briggs personality test: https://www.themyersbriggs.com/en-US/Products-and-Services/Myers-Briggs

    • The Big Five personality test: https://www.thepersonalitylab.org/

    • The Enneagram personality test: https://enneagramtest.com/

    • An inside look at how Figma builds product | Yuhki Yamashita (CPO of Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-how-figma-builds

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/dylan-field-live-at-config

    • An inside look at Figma’s unique GTM motion | Claire Butler (first GTM hire): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-figmas-unique-bottom

    • Inside Canva: Coaches not managers, giving away your Legos, and running profitably | Cameron Adams (co-founder and CPO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-canva-with-cameron-adams

    • The Science-Business Mismatch That Puts Your Change at Risk: https://changemanagementreview.com/the-science-business-mismatch-that-puts-your-change-at-risk/

    • Daniel Pink on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielpink/

    • Trello: https://trello.com/

    • Cron: https://cronhq.notion.site/

    • The Double Diamond framework for design thinking: https://www.fluxspace.io/resources/the-4-ds-double-diamond-design-thinking-model

    • CORE Sciences - Tips on Priming Great Meetings PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gm21cj0vi0bjosyu8kd69/CORE-Sciences-Tips-on-Priming-Great-Meetings.pdf?rlkey=6fznhv7bbsxm8nj8m4luej17t&st=2eduirad&dl=0

    • How to grow a subscription business | Yuriy Timen (Grammarly, Canva, Airtable): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/transform-your-subscription-growth

    • Brené Brown’s website: https://brenebrown.com/

    • The CORE personality test: https://www.core-sciences.com/new-core-identity

    • Burning Man: https://burningman.org/

    • Stripe: https://stripe.com/

    • Jony Ive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

    • Albert Einstein quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7133605-make-things-as-simple-as-possible-but-no-simpler

    • Elden Ring: https://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring

    • Abilene paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox

    The Challenger Sale: Taking Control of the Customer Conversation: https://www.amazon.com/Challenger-Sale-Control-Customer-Conversation/dp/1591844355

    • The surprising truth about what closes deals: Insights from 2.5m sales conversations | Matt Dixon (author of The Challenger Sale and The JOLT Effect): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/close-more-deals-matt-dixon

    • Siqi Chan on X: https://x.com/blader

    • Runway: https://runway.com/

    • Shreyas Doshi on pre-mortems, the LNO framework, the three levels of product work, why most execution problems are strategy problems, and ROI vs. opportunity cost thinking: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/episode-3-shreyas-doshi

    • Wolfgang Puck’s website: https://wolfgangpuck.com/

    • Steven Spielberg on X: https://x.com/sspielberg93

    • John Williams’s website: https://www.johnwilliams.org/

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Warby Parker: https://www.warbyparker.com/

    • Simon Sinek’s website: https://simonsinek.com/

    • What is the function of the various brainwaves?: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-function-of-t-1997-12-22/

    • CORE Sciences - Your Brain's 9 Modes PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/figg8upeaawir1hnxv0ew/CORE-Sciences-Your-Brain-s-9-Modes.pdf?rlkey=u3zaonxvycvupurq6pwysckfq&st=os06xjnr&dl=0

    Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It: Unlock Your Persuasion Potential in Professional and Personal Life: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805

    The Person and the Situation: Perspectives of Social Psychology: https://www.amazon.com/Person-Situation-Perspectives-Social-Psychology/dp/1905177445

    Cambridge Fundamentals of Neuroscience in Psychology: https://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Fundamentals-Neuroscience-Psychology/dp/B08QYNDNYX

    • Robert Greene’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Robert-Greene/author/B001IGV3IS

    Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics: https://www.amazon.com/Misbehaving-Behavioral-Economics-Richard-Thaler/dp/039335279X

    • Beehiiv: https://www.beehiiv.com/

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    How embracing your emotions will accelerate your career | Joe Hudson (executive coach, Art of Accomplishment)

    How embracing your emotions will accelerate your career | Joe Hudson (executive coach, Art of Accomplishment)

    Joe Hudson is one of the most sought-after executive coaches in Silicon Valley. He is the founder of Art of Accomplishment, a transformational coaching program that has helped tens of thousands of people, including many tech executives and founders from companies like Apple, OpenAI, and Google. His unique method of transformation comes from over 25 years of exploring neurological, psychological, and spiritual traditions, tested against real-world challenges. In our conversation, Joe shares:

    • Why the critical voice in your head is always wrong, and how to change your relationship with that voice

    • Why authenticity trumps self-improvement

    • The importance of embracing all of your emotions

    • How to create more enjoyable and effective meetings

    • The power of gratitude in transforming your life

    • Practical experiments for personal growth

    • Much more

    Apply for Joe’s Connection Course:

    Thousands of students have taken Joe’s most popular experience, the Connection Course. Unlike most online courses, there is no reading, lectures, or written homework. It is a three-week experiential deep dive where you will apply your learnings to real-life problems—how to make your team more productive, communicate more effectively, and resolve conflicts with ease. Apply here and use the code LENNY for $300 off your enrollment: view.life/lenny.

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    Find the transcript and references at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/embracing-your-emotions-joe-hudson

    Where to find Joe Hudson:

    • X: https://x.com/FU_joehudson

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-hudson/

    • Website: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/

    • Podcast: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast

    • Linktree: https://linktr.ee/theartofaccomplishment

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Joe’s background

    (02:31) The critical voice in your head

    (06:39) Changing your relationship with the critical voice

    (13:19) Understanding and embracing emotions

    (19:52) The importance of emotional fluidity

    (24:40) Questioning assumptions and self-perception

    (30:25) The consequences of avoiding emotions

    (36:57) Experimenting with self-improvement

    (39:42) Understanding efficiency and enjoyment

    (43:17) The power of enjoyment in daily tasks

    (45:03) Innate enjoyment vs. learned enjoyment

    (46:31) Authenticity vs. self-improvement

    (50:01) Embracing emotional experiences

    (55:49) How understanding your emotions helps you make better decisions

    (01:02:53) Creating effective teams and meetings

    (01:10:40) Gratitude practice for personal growth

    (01:15:36) Conclusion and final thoughts

    Referenced:

    Descartes’ Error: Emotion, Reason, and the Human Brain: https://www.amazon.com/Descartes-Error-Emotion-Reason-Human/dp/014303622X/

    • Joe’s quote about joy: https://x.com/FU_joehudson/status/1756837774743790030

    • “Emotional Inquiry”: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast/emotional-inquiry

    Inside Out 2: https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2

    • “Question the Assumption”: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/podcast/question-the-assumption

    • Bodega Bay: https://www.bodegabay.com/

    • Elon Musk reveals the interview question he asks every candidate to instantly spot a liar: https://www.good.is/elon-musk-reveals-the-one-job-interview-question-he-asks-every-candidate-to-instantly-spot-a-liar

    • Great Decisions course: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/course/great-decisions-course

    • HBR Analytic Services: https://hbr.org/hbr-analytic-services

    • Connection Course: https://www.artofaccomplishment.com/course/the-connection-course

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