Podcast Summary
Brogan Graham's Charm and Friendly Approach Leads to Unique Experiences and Friendships: Brogan Graham's curiosity and friendly approach result in unique experiences and lasting friendships, while his co-founding of November Project demonstrates his commitment to global fitness community.
Brogan Graham, a charismatic and extroverted fitness enthusiast, uses his curiosity and friendly approach to connect with new people, even in unfamiliar environments like ice fishing huts in the Midwest. This leads to unique experiences and friendships. The podcast episode also highlights Brogan's co-founding of November Project, a global fitness movement with over 250,000 lifetime members in 52 cities in 9 countries. The episode is brought to you by On, a Swiss apparel brand that innovates with next-gen premium fabrics, and Birch, a mattress company that offers organic, sustainably made mattresses. Brogan's charm and energy are evident throughout the podcast, making for an engaging and entertaining listen. The episode also touches on Brogan's upcoming venture, Voicing Change Media, a consortium of thinkers, storytellers, artists, and visionaries committed to fostering meaningful exchanges and sharing thought-provoking content.
Stepping out of comfort zones and embracing inclusivity: Embrace new experiences, reach out to others, and engage in meaningful conversations, even in the face of challenges. Open dialogue leads to growth and understanding.
Expanding our circles and seeking meaningful connections, whether through dating or building community, requires us to step out of our comfort zones and embrace inclusivity. Brogan Graham, a guest on The Rich Roll Podcast, emphasizes the importance of being open to new experiences and reaching out to others. This practice begins with a simple "hello" and can lead to the discovery of valuable friendships and community connections. Additionally, the conversation touched upon the challenges of navigating difficult topics, such as racial justice and civil rights, especially during times of unrest. While some may question the need for two white, cisgender, upwardly mobile suburban dwelling dads to contribute to the conversation, Graham and Roll acknowledge the value in open dialogue and the potential for growth and understanding. Throughout the discussion, the importance of embracing the present moment and adapting to new situations, such as unexpected weather or unexpected events, was also highlighted. Overall, the conversation emphasized the importance of being open to new experiences, reaching out to others, and engaging in meaningful conversations, even in the face of challenges.
Acknowledging past ignorance and listening to diverse perspectives: White people must be willing to learn, listen, and have open conversations about race and social justice, even if it's messy and uncomfortable.
Engaging in important conversations about social issues, especially as a white person, requires a willingness to acknowledge past ignorance, listen to diverse perspectives, and accept that perfection is not attainable. The speakers in this discussion reflect on their experiences during the unrest in Minneapolis following George Floyd's death and the importance of understanding the significance of events beyond their immediate experience. They also highlight the responsibility white people have to educate themselves and have open, messy conversations about race and social justice. Additionally, the unique circumstances of the global pandemic and the world's focus on Minneapolis added to the importance and urgency of these conversations.
Having honest conversations about race requires acknowledging mistakes: Approach race discussions with humility, openness, and a willingness to learn, recognizing privileges and systemic biases.
Having open and honest conversations about race and social issues requires acknowledging that mistakes will be made. Fear of making mistakes can prevent conversations from happening at all. White people, in particular, may feel uncomfortable engaging due to the fear of being criticized or labeled as racist. However, it's important to remember that it's not the responsibility of marginalized communities to validate or praise every attempt at conversation. Instead, it's crucial to approach these discussions with humility, openness, and a willingness to learn. Additionally, it's essential to recognize the privileges that shape our perspectives and the ways in which we operate within systems that favor certain groups over others. Once we've acknowledged these realities, we can begin to have more productive and inclusive conversations.
Building inclusive communities: Recognize past mistakes, broaden aperture, make small changes, have conversations, and challenge oneself to be part of inclusive communities.
Acknowledging past mistakes and working towards inclusivity are crucial for building and growing communities, especially those with a strong ethos like The November Project. The speaker emphasizes the importance of broadening the community's aperture to make it more welcoming to all, recognizing that the origin story cannot be changed but the present can be shaped differently. He shares an example of a confrontation with authority and how it might have played out differently if the person involved was Black. The speaker also highlights the need for small changes to make a big impact, such as choosing centrally located workout spots and recognizing the difference between "all are welcome" and "this was built with you in mind." The internal tension among white people to participate in the solution but feeling unsure if it's appropriate for them can create paralysis. The speaker encourages starting somewhere, like having conversations and challenging oneself and others to be part of the progressive movement towards change.
Starting conversations about anti-racism: Meet people where they are, engage respectfully, build relationships, and promote understanding through shared experiences. Progress takes time, patience, and a willingness to learn and grow.
Starting the conversation about anti-racism can be a challenging first step for many people, especially for those who are unsure or hesitant. It's important to meet people where they are and engage in respectful, non-judgmental dialogue to build meaningful relationships and promote understanding. The November Project, a community fitness movement, provides an example of how bringing people together through shared experiences can lead to meaningful conversations and social change. It's important to recognize that progress takes time, patience, and a willingness to learn and grow. For those who may feel overwhelmed or unsure of where to begin, starting small and focusing on continuous education and engagement can be effective steps towards making a difference.
Meaningful partnerships fuel growth and sustainability: Partnerships provide financial support and align with community values, fostering strong bonds and shared passion among members.
Meaningful partnerships have significantly contributed to the growth and sustainability of the November Project community. The partnership with The North Face fueled their leadership gatherings and input on outdoor training gear for half a decade, allowing the founders to focus full time on the project and build community ideas. The shift to a partnership with Brooks Running brought a new focus on running and celebrating achievements, such as Des Linden's recent 50k world record. These partnerships not only provide financial support but also align with the values and mission of the November Project community. The level of engagement and excitement from the community during events like Des' record-breaking run demonstrates the strong bond and shared passion among its members.
The Importance of Social Connections During the Pandemic: The pandemic has emphasized the value of social interactions for mental well-being and highlighted the challenges of limited connections, while also showcasing the potential of virtual events.
The pandemic has highlighted the importance of social connections and interactions for many people, particularly those who are extroverted or community-driven. The sudden absence of these experiences has been a significant challenge, leading to feelings of drain and isolation. Even small interactions, such as conversations with service industry workers, can provide essential fuel and energy. The shift to virtual events and limited social interactions has presented new challenges, and while some have embraced these changes, others have found them lacking compared to in-person experiences. Ultimately, the pandemic has underscored the importance of prioritizing and nurturing social connections, whether through virtual means or in-person interactions when safe to do so.
Adapting to Change: Connecting Through Virtual Workouts: During uncertain times, adapting to change and finding creative ways to connect with others is essential. Virtual workouts allowed for community and connection despite physical distancing, requiring leaders to become digital fitness experience hosts and innovate to overcome challenges.
During times of uncertainty and change, finding creative ways to connect with others and maintain community is essential. The pandemic highlighted the importance of adaptability and innovation, as seen in the shift from in-person workouts to virtual ones in the November Project. This transition required leaders to step up and become fitness experience hosts, providing engaging and effective workouts through digital platforms. Although this change came with challenges, such as the need for digital sign-ups and waivers, it allowed for the continuation of community and connection despite physical distancing. The NBA's sudden cancellation served as a reminder that even the most consistent routines can be disrupted, and it's crucial to recognize and support leaders during these times. So, whether it's through letter writing, sending videos, or participating in virtual workouts, finding ways to stay connected and support one another is key.
Adapting to new ways of connecting: Despite the challenges of virtual connections, it's important to adapt and find ways to engage with others, even if it's not the same as in-person interaction.
The pandemic has forced us to adapt to new ways of connecting with each other, whether it be through virtual means or with safety precautions in place. The speaker shared their experience with the November Project, a group that usually meets in person but shifted to virtual workouts during the pandemic. They discussed the challenges of dealing with positive cases and contact tracing, but also the benefits of being able to connect with people from all over the world through virtual means. However, they acknowledged that this is not the same as in-person interaction and expressed a desire to return to the way things were. But as the speaker noted, we may not be going back to the way things were, but rather moving towards something different. The speaker also mentioned their personal struggle with attending virtual meetings due to Zoom fatigue, but eventually found a way to fall in love with it again. Overall, the speaker emphasized the importance of adapting to new ways of connecting and engaging, even if it's not the same as before.
The value of in-person experiences and human connection: In-person activities offer unique experiences and human connection that cannot be replicated online, despite challenges like competing with virtual workouts and managing logistics.
The experience of attending a morning fitness group in person holds significant value and differentiates it from online workouts. The sense of community and connection that comes from gathering in person cannot be replicated through virtual platforms. However, during the current transitional phase from remote to in-person activities, there are challenges to navigate. These include competing with other online fitness options and managing the logistics of in-person gatherings. Despite these challenges, the desire for human connection and the unique experiences that come with in-person activities, such as ice fishing in Minnesota, remain strong. The approach of approaching ice fishing huts as a newcomer has proven effective in forming connections with others in the community. Overall, the value of in-person experiences and the importance of human connection are key takeaways from the discussion.
The Power of Approaching Strangers: Embrace opportunities to connect with new people, even if not all attempts are successful. Taking risks can lead to unexpected friendships and valuable experiences.
The speaker values connecting with new people and finds joy in approaching strangers, but sometimes holds back due to self-doubt and societal expectations. He uses the analogy of basketball legend Larry Bird, emphasizing the importance of taking risks and trying to make connections, even if not all attempts are successful. The speaker shares a personal story of admiring a smooth runner in Minneapolis and initially holding back from approaching him, but eventually mustering the courage to do so, leading to an unexpected friendship with a New York Times journalist. This experience reinforces the speaker's belief in the value of approaching new people and embracing opportunities for connection.
Unexpected friendships through shared running interests: Running can bring people together, even high-profile individuals like mayors, leading to deeper connections and increased community engagement.
Running and shared interests can lead to unexpected friendships, even with high-profile individuals like mayors. The speaker, who moved to Minneapolis and became friends with the city's mayor, Jacob Frey, recounted how they bonded over their morning runs. The speaker also noted that living in a place with a strong sense of local politics and activism can lead to increased engagement and understanding of important issues. Despite the challenges and pressures that come with holding public office, the speaker expressed admiration for Frey's dedication to serving his community. Running, as a shared passion, provided a valuable outlet for both individuals to connect and process the demands of their respective roles.
Mayor's dedication to running and sleep: Running and sleep are essential for a productive day. Prioritize both, even with long hours and travel.
Running and getting enough sleep are crucial for starting the day off right, as exemplified by a controversial public figure. This individual, who is a runner and a mayor from Virginia, faces both criticism and admiration for his dedication to physical activity and early mornings. Despite the challenges of long hours and travel, prioritizing sleep becomes increasingly important as we age. The speaker, who is also striving for better sleep, shares his experience of receiving a stern email from a senior figure, which helped him focus on his goals and led to improved sleep habits. By incorporating exercise and better rest into their routines, individuals can enhance their overall well-being and productivity.
A surreal visit to Minneapolis during unrest: The speaker encountered empty streets, boarded-up buildings, and minimal people during their visit to Minneapolis, finding the lack of familiarity disconcerting. They also had frustrating experiences with food delivery services. Despite these challenges, they enjoyed exploring the city on foot and interacting with Knox Robinson.
The speaker experienced a surreal visit to Minneapolis during a time of unrest, with empty streets, boarded-up buildings, and minimal people. The lack of familiarity and usual city vibe was disconcerting. Additionally, they shared a frustrating experience with food delivery services during their stay. The conversation also touched upon the speaker's connection to the Rich Roll podcast and their shared enjoyment of exploring new cities on foot. However, they acknowledged the importance of considering safety and privilege in this context. Another notable point was the speaker's interaction with Knox Robinson, which led to a week-long visit and extensive social media documentation. Overall, the discussion highlighted the speaker's experiences and observations during their trip to Minneapolis amidst unique circumstances.
Amplifying diverse voices in communities: Authentic, inclusive conversations can bridge gaps and bring people closer together, regardless of geographical distance or format.
Amplifying diverse voices in communities, especially during challenging times, can bring people together and create meaningful connections. This was exemplified during a virtual gathering called the November Project Summit, where the host invited Knox Robinson, a runner and father, to share his experiences and perspectives. The conversation took place in the host's garage during the fall season, and despite the virtual format and geographical distance, it felt personal and impactful. The host appreciated Knox's quick response and the opportunity to connect with him as fellow athletes and dads. The conversation reminded them of the importance of acknowledging and supporting communities outside of major cities and coasts. Additionally, the shared experience of becoming parents during their respective journeys added another layer of connection. Overall, this experience underscores the value of authentic, inclusive conversations that can bridge gaps and bring people closer together.
Travel fuels personal growth and enriches experiences at home: Travel broadens perspectives, fosters inclusivity, and enhances relationships and personal development.
Travel experiences fuel personal growth and help individuals be fully present and engaged in various aspects of their lives, including relationships and parenthood. The speaker shares his enthusiasm for traveling and how it enriches his experiences at home. He also emphasizes the importance of embracing new experiences and shedding rigid gender roles to foster a more progressive and inclusive identity. The speaker's decision to participate in a gender reveal, despite initial hesitation, is an example of finding balance between personal values and respecting others' traditions. Overall, the discussion highlights the importance of embracing change and growth, both personally and societally.
Finding joy in unexpected moments during parenthood: Even when things don't go as planned, the unique experiences can bring joy and excitement to families, like the discovery and embrace of the name 'Cobra' for a daughter.
Even when things don't go as planned, like a complicated gender reveal, the outcome can still bring joy and excitement. The speakers shared a heartwarming story about their experience, which involved using the name "Cobra" for their daughter. They discovered the name during Goldie's pregnancy, as they referred to her growing baby as "Baby Cobra" during her yoga classes. Despite initially being unsure about the name, they ultimately decided to go with it, and it brought them closer as a family. The name also holds significance as a pose in yoga, adding to its meaning. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of finding joy in unexpected moments and embracing the unique experiences that come with parenthood.
Brainstorming ideas for a podcast bingo game: Paying attention to seemingly insignificant moments and ideas can lead to innovative content, and collaboration and open communication are essential for successful content creation.
Creating engaging and interactive content requires a significant amount of behind-the-scenes work and collaboration. The conversation between the speaker and Rich Roll showcases this, as they brainstorm ideas for a podcast bingo game, which involves extensive planning, organization, and communication. The speaker even shares an example of how an offhand comment during a phone call led to the creation of a new and successful feature for the podcast. This demonstrates the importance of paying attention to seemingly insignificant moments and ideas, as they can lead to innovative and engaging content for audiences. Additionally, the speaker's willingness to volunteer marketing ideas and collaborate with Rich Roll highlights the value of open communication and teamwork in the content creation process. Overall, this conversation emphasizes the importance of dedication, creativity, and collaboration in producing high-quality and interactive content.
The Power of Support and Encouragement: Through inspiring figures like Rich Roll and Adam, support and encouragement can help individuals push beyond their comfort zones and achieve their fitness goals, inspiring others along the way.
Rich Roll and Adam are inspiring figures who motivate people of all fitness levels through their unique approaches to health and wellness. During a recent training session, Rich helped Adam push beyond his comfort zone, demonstrating the power of support and encouragement. The conversation also touched on Rich's admiration for David Goggins and his challenging fitness routines. Goggins, a guest on Rich's podcast, left a profound impact on Steve, a friend of Rich's, who was inspired to take on a 4 by 4 by 48 challenge despite his father's cancer diagnosis. This story highlights the far-reaching influence of these individuals and their messages, inspiring not just serious athletes but also those who are just starting their fitness journeys. Rich's podcast, "Rich Roll," continues to be a platform for sharing such inspiring stories and connecting people.
Exploring Modern Fatherhood: Balancing Complexities and Roles: Navigating social justice, emotional availability, and financial stability are crucial aspects of modern fatherhood. Seek support, maintain open conversations, and remember it's okay to ask for help.
Being a father in today's world means navigating complexities and balancing various roles. History lessons, social justice, and emotional availability are just a few aspects of modern fatherhood. The speaker shares his experience of introducing his son to social justice issues through peaceful protests and visits to significant sites, acknowledging the potential backlash. He also emphasizes the importance of being emotionally available while setting boundaries and maintaining a stable income. The fatherhood journey is challenging, and it's essential to remember that it's okay to seek support and understanding. The speaker encourages open conversations about these topics to help future generations grow up with a broader perspective.
Expanding parental roles beyond gender norms: Open communication and building strong relationships are essential for challenging stereotypes and effective parenting. Embrace imperfections and find humor in the journey to deepen connections with loved ones.
Challenging stereotypes and expanding our roles as parents goes beyond just defying traditional gender norms. It also involves open communication and building strong relationships with our children. The speaker shared his experience of feeling inadequate as a father due to societal expectations, particularly around home repairs. He also emphasized the importance of open communication with children and the challenges that come with parenting as they grow older. Ultimately, he learned that there's no perfect way to parent, and that embracing the imperfections and finding humor in the situation can lead to growth and deeper connections with our loved ones.
Balancing Freedom and Safety During Teenage Years: Parents must provide guardrails while allowing teens to explore their identities, ultimately helping them navigate the world and become responsible adults.
As parents, it's essential to give our children the freedom to explore their identities and figure out who they are, but we must also put guardrails in place to ensure their safety and well-being. The teenage years are a time of self-discovery and differentiation, and it's natural for kids to either emulate or oppose their parents' identities. However, parents must eventually establish boundaries and provide guidance to help their children navigate the world. The speaker shared personal experiences of being a parent and a teenager, emphasizing the importance of being present and supportive during the formative years while also acknowledging the challenges and potential risks that come with adolescence. Ultimately, the goal is to strike a balance between giving children the freedom to grow and providing them with the necessary tools and guidance to make informed decisions and become responsible adults.
Personal growth through acting and rowing, becoming a father: Embrace new experiences, especially fatherhood, with open eyes and strive to be a positive role model for children in the fight against racism.
Life presents us with various challenges and experiences that shape us into who we become. For the speaker, acting and rowing were two such experiences that took him away from his comfort zone and led him to personal growth. Becoming a father, he acknowledges, is the hardest thing he's ever done, but also the most rewarding. He encourages new fathers to embrace the experience fully and keep their eyes open, while also acknowledging that they won't have everything figured out. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of being a positive male role model and guiding children towards anti-racist work for making a significant impact in the world.
Be present and fully engaged with your children: Focus on the moment and give undivided attention to create precious memories with children
Being present and fully engaged with your children is the most valuable gift you can give them. In the midst of our busy lives, it's essential to put aside distractions, such as our phones, and focus on the moment. Rich Roll emphasized the importance of being present during everyday experiences, not just special occasions. It's not about creating the perfect day or providing material possessions; it's about giving your undivided attention. As time passes quickly, these moments with our children become precious memories. So, let's make the most of them. Rich Roll's influence as a storyteller and his presence at events like this one encourages us to prioritize our time and focus on what truly matters.
