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    • Midea's New Job Offers Better Work-Life BalanceDespite earning less, Midea is content with her new job due to improved work-life balance and flexibility.

      Midea, a financial auditor based in Austin, Texas, recently accepted a new customer service job with a wage of $23 an hour and a biweekly pay cycle. Despite earning less than her previous salary, she was unhappy with her last job due to excessive work hours and stress. Midea wears a collar as part of her personal lifestyle and has had some challenges finding employment due to her past experience. She quit her last job in March and had enough savings to last her for a few months before starting her new position. Although her new salary is lower, she believes it's a fair trade-off for a better work-life balance. The conversation also touched upon her upcoming job change and the financial implications of her new wage and work schedule.

    • Living on credit cards after financial instabilityAddressing financial instability early can prevent debt accumulation and long-term consequences.

      Financial instability, whether from job loss or personal circumstances like divorce, can lead to a cycle of debt and struggle to make ends meet. The speaker shared her experience of living on credit cards after her divorce, dealing with mounting debt, and the emotional and financial toll it took. Even with a minimum wage job, she found it difficult to pay off her debts and make ends meet while also covering essential expenses. The conversation highlighted the importance of addressing financial instability as soon as possible to avoid accumulating debt and the long-term consequences it can have.

    • Avoiding interest on credit card debtFocus on using only cash or debit for purchases, pay off credit card balances in full monthly, and consider using a high-yield savings account to earn interest on savings.

      Making the minimum payment on credit card debt while continuing to use the card for non-essential purchases can lead to a worsening financial situation. The speaker in this discussion emphasizes that the interest accrued each month can quickly add up, making it difficult to make progress in paying off the debt. Instead, they recommend focusing on using only the money that exists in a debit card or cash for purchases, and paying off credit card balances in full each month to avoid accruing interest. The speaker also encourages individuals to consider using a high-yield savings account to earn interest on their savings. In this conversation, the speaker also emphasizes the importance of being honest about one's financial situation and not making excuses for unnecessary purchases.

    • Struggling with High Credit Card DebtsDespite attempts to pay off high credit card debts, accumulated interest and fees make it challenging. Consider simplifying finances by reducing expenses and exploring debt consolidation options.

      The interviewee is struggling with high credit card balances and accumulating significant fees and interest. Despite efforts to make payments and limit purchases, the interest rates are making it difficult for them to make progress in paying off their debts. They've had multiple credit cards over the years, some of which they no longer use but still have balances on. The total amount owed across all their cards is over $10,000, with annual fees and interest totaling hundreds of dollars. They're looking for ways to reduce their expenses and simplify their financial situation.

    • High interest credit cards causing financial strainHigh interest credit cards can lead to significant debt if not paid off in full each month. Regularly assess income and expenses to make adjustments and avoid financial difficulties.

      Having multiple credit cards with high interest rates and fees can lead to a significant amount of debt. The speaker in this conversation mentions several cards with high interest rates, including one at 33.24%, and discusses ongoing issues with trying to cancel a recurring charge. They also mention struggling to make minimum payments and the accumulation of hours of interest. The speaker expresses frustration with companies that make it difficult to cancel contracts and lose written documentation. It's important to carefully consider the terms of credit cards and make sure to pay off balances in full each month to avoid accruing debt. Additionally, the speaker mentions that they could have potentially made more money in other jobs in the service industry, but instead took a waitressing job out of necessity when they were facing financial difficulties. It's crucial to assess income and expenses regularly and make adjustments as needed to improve financial situations.

    • The cost of living can be a challengeBe mindful of spending habits and prioritize essential expenses to avoid financial instability. Seek help when needed.

      The cost of living and personal expenses can quickly add up, potentially leading to financial instability. This was highlighted in the conversation where the individual shared their experience of having to quit a job due to an injury and the subsequent challenges they faced in managing their expenses. Despite having a new job that pays more, they were still struggling due to past debts and unnecessary expenses. It's important to be mindful of our spending habits and prioritize essential expenses over discretionary ones. Additionally, seeking help or advice when needed, such as in the case of disability or financial hardship, can make a significant difference.

    • Managing Small Expenses for Financial StabilitySmall daily expenses can accumulate into significant debt if not managed responsibly. Prioritize financial obligations and avoid late fees to maintain financial stability.

      Small daily expenses can add up significantly over time, leading to financial instability if not managed responsibly. The speaker emphasizes the importance of accepting responsibility for spending habits and making minimum payments to avoid late fees and debt accumulation. He encourages a mindset shift towards prioritizing financial obligations over discretionary spending. The consequences of not doing so can impact not only personal finances but also relationships and future plans. The speaker shares his personal experience and urges the listener to make progress towards financial responsibility.

    • Justifying Unnecessary Expenses Can Lead to a Debt CycleBeing aware of total debt and taking proactive steps to pay it off is crucial for financial stability and retirement goals. Avoid justifying unnecessary expenses and use services like Aura to manage and protect personal information.

      Justifying unnecessary expenses, even during special occasions like birthdays, can lead to a never-ending cycle of debt and prevent individuals from achieving financial stability and retirement goals. The speaker emphasized that making sacrifices now and addressing debt head-on is crucial to living a debt-free life in the future. The conversation highlighted the importance of being aware of one's total debt and taking proactive steps to pay it off. Additionally, the speaker recommended using services like Aura to help manage and protect personal information from data brokers, reducing the likelihood of unwanted calls and online threats.

    • Recognizing and Addressing Debt IssuesRecognize unsustainable debt, close unused cards, take out lower-interest loans, aim for debt freedom, and prioritize emergency funds.

      The speaker recognized the unsustainable amount of debt they had accumulated and took steps to limit new debt and pay off existing debt to improve their financial situation. They closed unused credit cards and took out a personal loan with a lower interest rate to reduce monthly payments. The speaker's goal is to be debt-free in 3 years, which will put over $1,000 back in their pocket each month to use for other expenses. It's crucial for individuals to have an emergency fund, especially in non-marital relationships, as the other person holds significant power in the living situation.

    • Managing Debts with a BudgetCreating and sticking to a budget can help reduce debt and improve financial stability. Use the snowball method to pay off debts from smallest to largest, work extra hours to increase income, and stay committed to the plan.

      Creating and sticking to a budget, even with small extra income, can significantly reduce debt and improve financial stability. The speaker suggests following the snowball method to pay off debts from smallest to largest, and encourages working extra hours to increase income. With dedication and discipline, it's possible to pay off debts in a shorter time frame, leading to financial freedom. However, the speaker expresses concerns about the interviewee's excuses and justifications, and emphasizes the importance of commitment to the budget plan.

    • Work hard and secure a better financial futureMake sacrifices in youth to save for retirement, avoid burnout, and weigh benefits vs costs.

      It's important to work hard and make sacrifices in your twenties and thirties to secure a better financial future. This may mean working extra jobs, living below your means, and paying off debt as quickly as possible. While it may be tempting to focus on the present and enjoy yourself, statistically, you have many decades of life left and saving even small amounts can make a big difference in retirement. However, it's important to avoid burnout and make sure to take time off to recuperate. Ultimately, the decision to prioritize financial stability over immediate gratification is a personal one, and it's important to weigh the potential benefits against the potential costs. The speaker, who has been in a similar situation, strongly advises taking action to improve one's financial situation and regrets not having done so earlier.

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    • Prior to working with the Gym, Mike worked at a credit union for seven years. Part of this was in the ‘debt solutions’ department (basically in-house collections).
    • For so many, debt is a normal part of life but there are many mysteries around it.  
    • Collections in general seem to be the biggest mystery and monster when it comes to debt.
    • Hector uses the word ‘monster’ specifically because collections feel like a huge, daunting process.
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    • Try to work out an arrangement with the creditor. They’re usually happy to get any sort of payment over nothing at all. 
    • If you have debt, before it goes to collections, paying even $1 keeps the account from going inactive and can help buy a little bit of time. 

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    • There are three credit bureaus in the United States: Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion.
    • While credit score is one aspect of financial health, it is not the most important. 
    • 35% of credit score is utilization - how much you use on a month to month basis
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    • Obsessing about your credit score isn’t great for either your financial or mental health.
    • Once you start focusing on other aspects of financial health, the credit score usually improves over time. 
    • There are times when credit score is incredibly important, like when you are looking for more credit to buy a home, car,  or even renting an apartment. It is a way for banks and lenders to determine whether they think you’re a good person to lend money to. 
    • Even as someone who has worked in the business, Mike feels like there is still some mystery. 
    • Scores  750+ earn you bragging rights. Anything over that is extra credit. Those 800+ scores come down to time and credit length.

    DEBT vs. SAVING

    • It is important to build your savings while paying down debt. 
    • While it can be tempting to throw all of your money at debt for a number of reasons, building an emergency fund will help you truly break the debt cycle.
    • You will no longer need to go deeper into debt when something pops up. Your debt payoff journey will not happen in a vacuum, there will be surprise expenses along the way.  Having cash saved means you’ll be prepared.

    BUDGETING 

    • One way we focus on saving and paying down debt is by looking at spending. 
    • The traditional idea of budgeting can feel restrictive or limiting, but that’s not what we do at the gym. 
    • We focus on empathy, sustainability, and the WHY. Does the spending reflect your current goals? 
    • Most debt does not happen overnight, rather over purchases or other expenses over time. 
    •  Our focus is to help clients spend intentionally on their goals and joys and cut in the areas that do not. 
    • The reason trainers ask about your goals is because that is what they want to focus and plan for. If owning a house isn’t your goal, it won’t be in the plan. If your morning coffee is important, let’s put it in the budget! 

     

    RESOURCES MENTIONED: 

    The only place you should check your credit report is annualcreditreport.com. It is backed by the federal government and you can request one free report each year  

     

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