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    Hemant Taneja - Engineering Global Resilience - [Invest Like the Best, EP.382]

    enJuly 31, 2024
    What financial benefits does Ramp provide businesses?
    How does Global Founders Capital approach defense investing?
    Why is relationship building important in business success?
    What are the risks associated with AI investments?
    How does subscription-based funding help founders with growth?

    Podcast Summary

    • Ramp's cost managementRamp helps businesses save 5% on expenses annually and simplify financial processes, enabling strategic work and reinvestment of savings into growth

      Ramp, a rapidly growing fintech company backed by numerous prominent investors, is helping businesses manage their expenses and free up time for strategic work. With the ability to save an average of 5% on expenses each year and simplify financial processes, companies like Airbnb, Android, Shopify, and investors such as Sequoia Capital and Vista Equity are utilizing Ramp to reduce costs and reinvest savings into growth. This aligns with the observation that successful businesses are run by disciplined operators who manage costs meticulously and reinvest resources wisely.

    • Technology-Healthcare CollaborationCollaboration between tech and healthcare can lead to innovative solutions for chronic conditions by teaming up with experts, empathizing with healthcare domain, and focusing on value-based, proactive, affordable, and accessible care.

      Successful collaboration between technology and healthcare industries can lead to category-defining companies and innovative solutions for consumers with chronic conditions. The key is to team up with industry experts, have empathy for the healthcare domain, and focus on creating value-based, proactive, affordable, and accessible healthcare. This approach can help misaligned incentives in the healthcare system, where providers are incentivized to have more sick patients, and insurers want to keep people healthy. By having entities providing care also taking risks, the healthcare ecosystem can move towards a more rational economic behavior and better serve consumers' needs. Kaiser Permanente is an example of a health plan and provider converging to keep patients healthy and manage costs effectively. The ultimate goal is to create an ecosystem of companies that can help health systems become more vibrant and focused on delivering health, not just sick care.

    • GC's transformationGC evolved from a software-focused investor to a healthcare service builder and insurer, recognizing the need for long-term capital and a stronger alignment of profit and purpose. The firm's transformation included bringing on experienced business leaders, building a technology platform, and transitioning from a partnership to a CEO-led structure.

      GC, as a leading investing firm, has evolved significantly over the past two decades to tackle new challenges in the private investing landscape. This evolution was inspired by observing operationally excellent companies like Stripe and Livongo, which demonstrated infinite runway and the potential for profound impact. GC shifted its focus from funding software companies to building healthcare service companies and insurers, recognizing the need for longer-term capital and a stronger alignment of profit and purpose. The firm's transformation included bringing on experienced business leaders, building a technology platform, and transitioning from a partnership to a CEO-led structure. This intentional shift allowed GC to become a well-run business while preserving its entrepreneurial spirit and commitment to backing conviction over consensus. Ultimately, the goal is to transform industries rather than just chasing deals, requiring a deep entrepreneurial mindset and a long-term perspective.

    • Asset management successionDeep trust, intentional change, and a shared vision are crucial for successful succession in asset management businesses. Trust enables a smooth transition despite challenges, and intentional change and a shared vision attract top talent and lead to growth.

      Successful succession in asset management businesses is not an easy feat but can be achieved through deep trust, intentional change, and a shared vision. When Waverly Capital Partners underwent a major transition, they sent their entire team from Boston to the Bay Area to build a new community, maintaining trust and preserving the firm's integrity. Ken, who joined from American Express, played a crucial role in the process by encouraging a mission and values exercise, as well as the creation of a three-year strategy. Despite the messiness and challenges of changing the firm's focus and structure, the team's trust and confidence in each other allowed for a smooth transition. Ultimately, the firm was able to expand beyond traditional venture investing and attract top talent, leading to growth and success.

    • Relationships in BusinessBuilding trust, collaboration, and mutual respect are crucial for success in business. Offering unique capital solutions like subscription-based funding can help founders grow their businesses without diluting equity or straining cash flow, leading to enduring companies and transformed industries.

      Relationships are the cornerstone of success in business. The speaker emphasized the importance of trust, collaboration, and mutual respect in building enduring companies and transforming industries. He shared how his firm evolved from traditional venture capital to offering unique capital solutions, such as subscription-based funding, to help founders grow their businesses without diluting equity or straining cash flow. These relationships-focused approaches have been instrumental in the firm's success and have helped numerous companies thrive, even in private markets. The speaker's passion for being a builder and understanding founders' needs led him to institutionalize incubating businesses and venture buyouts, further solidifying their position as a founder-centric firm. This organic growth strategy has not been focused on assets under management (AUM) but rather on increasing the chances of founders' success through various means. The speaker provided an example of a subscription-based funding structure, which has been successful for almost 50 companies, allowing them to grow their balance sheets while reducing dilution and focusing on long-term growth.

    • Customer Acquisition and Lifetime ValueZumline focuses on unique opportunities to add value, structural issues, and strong co-founders in customer acquisition. In terms of AI, they see potential in productivity, transforming low-margin businesses, and strategic investments for innovation rather than cost-cutting. AI's ability to revolutionize industries like healthcare, marketing, and customer service is of great interest to them.

      A deep understanding of customer acquisition and lifetime value is crucial for success in business, especially when considering partnerships or investments. Firms like Zumline look for unique opportunities where they can add value, focusing on structural issues and partnering with strong co-founders. Regarding AI, Zumline sees potential in bringing productivity back onshore through AI and transforming low-margin businesses into high-margin software companies. They approach AI as a tool for innovation rather than cost-cutting and are already making strategic investments in this area. The most interesting aspect of AI, according to Zumline, is its ability to revolutionize various business functions and industries, particularly in healthcare, marketing, and customer service. They aim to collaborate with industries to catalyze growth and build AI-enabled businesses.

    • Applying AI to transform businesses in defenseGlobal Founders Capital is focusing on using AI to improve defense capabilities and reduce costs by bringing commercial technology into the sector, while addressing ethical considerations and navigating geopolitical and regulatory challenges

      While there is a significant focus on building Next-Generation Artificial Intelligence (NAI) models and chasing Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), with huge potential rewards, the investments in this area are high-risk and uncertain due to the commoditization of technology. Instead, Global Founders Capital (GFC) is focusing on applying AI to transform businesses in the short term, particularly in areas like defense, where innovation is driving significant investment due to geopolitical changes. Defense is an area GFC has been investing in for 20 years, aiming to bring commercial technology back into defense to reduce costs and improve capabilities. GFC is also grappling with ethical considerations in defense investing and has established a framework for investing based on deterrence. Additionally, GFC is paying close attention to geopolitical and regulatory issues, particularly in relation to AI, and advocating for collaboration and resilience to ensure technological capabilities are not compromised by unintended consequences or geopolitical tensions.

    • Deep relationships in VCSuccessful VC firms focus on building deep relationships based on mutual respect, transparency, and trust. Creativity and a long-term perspective are key to delivering lead returns.

      Successful firms, whether as a GP or a LP, need to focus on building deep relationships based on mutual respect, transparency, and trust. The Princeton Endowment's Andy Golden, a longtime mentor and friend, taught the importance of this approach in his investment strategy with GC. GC values creativity over process and leans into the chaos and ambiguity, which can be challenging for some investors. For GC, the key to success lies in creating new things and delivering lead returns, with a focus on win-win solutions and a longer-term perspective. Learning from firms like Stripe, which operate in infinite markets, highlights the importance of a relentless focus on talent and a deep belief in the journey rather than the end game. Ultimately, staying true to your mission and values, and building strong relationships, are essential for success in the world of venture capital.

    • Leadership traitsLong-term mindset, patience, relentless excellence, boldness, and humility are crucial for successful leadership. Focusing on goals and creating new demand can help outlast competitors.

      Having a long-term mindset, patience, relentless excellence, boldness, and humility are essential qualities for successful leadership. The discussion about the evolution of Stripe as a company highlights how these traits enabled them to stay focused on their goals and outlast competitors in the payments market. Looking ahead, GC's plans involve executing on industries like health, defense, manufacturing, and AI, with a focus on creating new demand and enabling innovation. A memorable act of kindness from David at GC during the speaker's early days at the company serves as a reminder of the importance of both personal growth and helping others. Overall, the conversation underscores the significance of staying true to one's vision and values while continuously learning and growing.

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    Hemant Taneja - Engineering Global Resilience - [Invest Like the Best, EP.382]

    Hemant Taneja - Engineering Global Resilience - [Invest Like the Best, EP.382]
    My guest today is Hemant Taneja. Hemant is the CEO and Managing Director of General Catalyst, the global venture capital firm you’ll hear us refer to as GC. GC has set out to build resiliency across critical industries worldwide. The firm leverages technology to retool sectors such as healthcare, energy, defense, and manufacturing and explores innovative capital structures to support founders and businesses. Hemant discusses how the firm is positioned to respond to the aftermath of crises, including the pandemic, wars, energy issues, and beyond. We also discuss the building of a category-defining healthcare company, Livongo and much more. Please enjoy this conversation with Hemant Taneja.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Ramp. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Ramp is the fastest growing FinTech company in history and it’s backed by more of my favorite past guests (at least 16 of them!) than probably any other company I’m aware of. It’s also notable that many best-in-class businesses use Ramp—companies like Airbnb, Anduril, and Shopify, as well as investors like Sequoia Capital and Vista Equity. They use Ramp to manage their spending, automate tedious financial processes, and reinvest saved dollars and hours into growth. At Colossus and Positive Sum, we use Ramp for exactly the same reason. Go to Ramp.com/invest to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Our Partners: Ramp and Tegus (00:03:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:57) Introducing Hemant Taneja and General Catalyst (00:04:17) Global Resilience and Innovation Post-Pandemic  (00:05:56) Re-Globalization and Manufacturing  (00:07:03) Building Livongo: A 20-Year Overnight Success  (00:13:23) Aligning Incentives in Healthcare  (00:15:40) Re-imagining the Investment Business  (00:20:54) Evolution of General Catalyst (00:27:04) Succession and Trust in Asset Management  (00:35:00) Founder-Centric Capital Goals  (00:36:32) Balancing Growth and Liquidity  (00:41:39) AI and Onshoring Productivity  (00:47:10) Defense Investments and Ethics  (00:50:11) Geopolitics and Regulation  (00:53:16) Reflections on Leadership and Strategy  (01:01:14) Hemant's Future Plans  (01:02:55) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Him

    Jeremy Giffon - Special Situations in Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, Replay]

    Jeremy Giffon - Special Situations in Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, Replay]
    Today we are replaying one of our most popular episodes from last year with Jeremy Giffon. I spend all my time trying to find people who have some “singularity” to them. People who seem like they can do an N of 1 something. Having spent many days with Jeremy, he strikes me as one of those people. He was the first employee and general partner at private equity firm/holding company Tiny, which buys and holds internet and technology-focused businesses. Prior to that, he was on the founding team of MediaCore, which was acquired by Workday. The focus of our discussion is on esoteric opportunities that exist in private markets and how misaligned incentives and coordination problems create special situations for people like Jeremy to invest in. The rest of the conversation is wide-ranging and covers everything from compensation advice to meeting your heroes. Please enjoy my discussion with Jeremy Giffon. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:03:15) What defines the nature of a perfect business in his mind (00:05:21) Key characteristics he’d look for in a perfect investment (00:09:58) Coordination problems that excite him (00:14:02) Raising funds and ghostship companies  (00:16:17) Examples of a special situations transaction in private markets  (00:18:55) Building up a sourcing mechanism (00:22:18) The biggest mistakes he’s seen in buying and selling companies  (00:25:42) Refining the underwriting process (00:28:57) Thoughts about minimum rates of return and multiples on capital for the investments he makes  (00:30:44) Being lazy enough to wait for good deals on enduring businesses  (00:33:32) Why people do things they don’t like  (00:35:47) Whether or not he feels like he knows what he wants in life (00:42:58) Hiring CEOs (00:44:54) Really good respective returns in low risk companies and why those opportunities continue to persist    (00:47:05) Tactics for negotiating with and sourcing CEOs   (00:50:37) Binaries - pre and post fall (00:55:58) Being hard to kill (00:59:15) His favorite interview question  (01:06:07) Having an audience is incredibly underpriced  (01:10:13) What else is significantly underpriced (01:12:14) Things he feels are overpriced today writ large (01:15:54) Criticisms of the cult of learning (01:20:21) The one call that everyone needs to make  (01:27:18) Meeting your heroes and having mentors  (01:30:48) Notable differences between the business environments of Canada and the US (01:33:13) Lessons learned from people he admires and models for seeing the world  (01:35:35) Views he holds that would make people scratch their heads (01:40:02) The kindest thing anyone has ever done for Jeremy

    David Senra - Passion & Pain - [Invest Like the Best, Replay]

    David Senra - Passion & Pain - [Invest Like the Best, Replay]
    Today, we are replaying what we call a forever episode, which are the few episodes of our show that we think will be as popular a decade from now as they are today. Every time I re-listen to this episode with David Senra, I leave wildly energized and wanting to share that feeling. So we are re-releasing it today for anyone who missed it the first time or hadn't yet discovered Invest Like the Best. David Senra has studied history’s great founders and entrepreneurs in more depth than anyone I’ve ever met, and I’d wager more than anyone else alive. In this conversation, we cover many of the most common themes he’s discovered studying hundreds of entrepreneurs like Estée Lauder, John Rockefeller, Enzo Ferrari, and Edwin Land. Please enjoy this great conversation with David Senra. Listen to Founders Podcast  For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).  Show Notes [00:00:00] Welcome to Invest Like the Best [00:03:01] First question - When he first fell in love with reading [00:07:01] What’s rooted in his own history that’s made him obsessive about studying history’s great entrepreneurs and founders - Founders Podcast [00:10:34] The first time he connected with someone as a positive role model that he was reading about  [00:13:45] How often obsession is apparent in the founders he’s studied across hundreds of biographies  [00:18:08] What is often behind obsession and how people listening can apply the lessons to their own lives [00:22:45] The dynamic and relationship between inspiration and perspiration  [00:27:11] Commonalities between the layers of leadership and support underneath founders [00:31:52] Where else he’s seen ego rear its head in good and bad ways  [00:38:34] How often do great founders break the law or enter gray areas of it  [00:41:22] The role constant learning and listening plays in success [00:45:12] Talking about how anything worth doing is worth doing to excess  [00:52:18] Describing the soul of founders and businesses [00:58:39] What he’s learned about all of these founders as it relates to marketing  [01:04:38] A common story that process is often art  [01:08:10] Who David's idols are in podcasting [01:14:55] Major aspects of people he’s studied that haven’t been discussed yet [01:19:55] The kindest thing anyone has ever done for David

    Martin Casado - Entering Uncharted AI Territory - [Invest Like the Best, EP.381]

    Martin Casado - Entering Uncharted AI Territory - [Invest Like the Best, EP.381]
    My guest today is Martin Casado. Martin is a partner at Andreessen Horowitz and first joined me on Invest Like the Best in 2022. So much has changed since then, and it was awesome to have Martin back to discuss all of the different implications of this AI revolution. Before joining a16z, Martin pioneered software-defined networking and co-founded Nicira, which was bought by VMware for $1.3 billion in 2012. He has studied, built, and invested in digital infrastructure his whole career which has primed him to go in-depth in this interview on the immense opportunities and challenges AI presents among creativity, policy-making, agentic systems, real-world data structures, and beyond. Please enjoy this conversation with Martin Casado.  Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, where we're changing the game in investment research. Step away from outdated, inefficient methods and into the future with our platform, proudly hosting over 100,000 transcripts – with over 25,000 transcripts added just this year alone. Our platform grows eight times faster and adds twice as much monthly content as our competitors, putting us at the forefront of the industry. Plus, with 75% of private market transcripts available exclusively on Tegus, we offer insights you simply can't find elsewhere. See the difference a vast, quality-driven transcript library makes. Unlock your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes.  Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:01:48) The Future of AI and Creativity (00:03:11) Economic Implications of AI (00:04:33) AI's Impact on Content Creation (00:08:21) Challenges in AI and Robotics (00:12:16) Human Data and AI Training (00:20:30) Investing in AI and Robotics (00:26:00) Defensibility and Competition in AI (00:33:22) Regulatory Considerations (00:35:26) Internet Era Parallels and Security Concerns (00:40:25) Open Source vs. Closed Source in Tech (00:43:45) Market Annealing and Category Creation (00:46:13) Data and Hardware Innovations in AI (00:55:55) Agents and the Future of AI