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    How To Be A Minimalist: Joshua Fields Millburn On The Power Of Living Deliberately & Contributing Beyond Ourselves

    enOctober 31, 2016

    Podcast Summary

    • External clutter reflects internal clutterFocusing on minimalism and reducing material possessions can help us become more aware of our emotions, spirituality, and mental states.

      According to Joshua Fields Millburn, the external clutter in our lives is just a reflection of the internal clutter we carry. By focusing on minimalism and reducing material possessions, we can begin to look inward and become more aware of our emotions, spirituality, and mental states. Millburn's personal journey from the corporate grind to minimalism was sparked by a series of life-changing events and a desire for a more fulfilling way of life. Today, he and his friend Ryan Nicodemus run The Minimalists, a popular resource for living a meaningful life with less stuff. Their message of intentional living has reached millions through their books, speaking engagements, and media appearances.

    • Understanding the essence of MinimalismMinimalism is about simplifying life to make room for more meaning, time, passion, experiences, growth, contribution, contentment, and freedom.

      Minimalism is more than just decluttering; it's about simplifying life to make room for more meaning, time, passion, experiences, growth, contribution, contentment, and ultimately, freedom. Joshua and Ryan, creators of the Minimalism documentary, have been advocating for this lifestyle through various platforms like podcasts, books, and speaking engagements. Their documentary, "Shockingly Minimalism," beautifully showcases the societal and cultural impact of material consumerism and how minimalism offers a practical solution to this malaise. The focus is on the "why" of minimalism, as dealing with external clutter helps one become more aware of and address internal clutter, leading to a more mindful and intentional life.

    • The pursuit of material possessions can mask deeper issuesRecognizing that material possessions don't bring lasting happiness and examining the underlying causes of compulsive behaviors can lead to greater self-understanding and a simpler, more intentional way of living.

      The accumulation of material possessions is often a symptom of deeper internal issues, much like addiction. The removal of excess stuff is just the first step in a journey towards greater self-knowledge and understanding what truly matters in life. This process can be challenging, as many people, including the speaker, have found themselves caught in a cycle of working hard to make more money to buy more things, only to find that the happiness they seek remains elusive. It's essential to recognize that the things we accumulate do not bring lasting happiness and that it's crucial to examine the underlying causes of our compulsive behaviors. The average American household has over 300,000 items, which is a staggering statistic, but most of us are not hoarders. Instead, we are caught up in a cultural narrative that tells us that more money and more things will make us happy. However, this pursuit can lead to a never-ending cycle of debt and dissatisfaction. Embracing a simpler, more intentional way of living and focusing on the things that truly matter, like relationships and experiences, can lead to greater happiness and fulfillment.

    • The American Dream vs. Finding Meaning and PurposeChasing material possessions for happiness can lead to disconnection and misery. Instead, focus on living in alignment with your values for long-term satisfaction and happiness.

      The pursuit of the American dream, driven by the belief that material possessions will lead to happiness, can lead to a sense of disconnection and even misery. People who challenge this paradigm, such as those who live with minimal possessions, are often met with skepticism and concern. However, these individuals argue that happiness is not the ultimate goal, but rather finding meaning and purpose in life. Long-term satisfaction and happiness can be byproducts of living in alignment with one's values. The speaker shares his personal experience of climbing the corporate ladder only to realize that the people he admired were unhappy, despite their success. He also reflects on his traumatic childhood growing up in a poor household with a practicing alcoholic mother. Despite these challenges, he encourages listeners to reflect on what's truly important in life and pursue it with intention.

    • Money and Happiness: It's More Than Just IncomeFocusing on identity based on income or occupation can lead to discontentment. Aligning actions with values and doing what brings excitement and passion leads to true satisfaction.

      Money itself is not the root cause of unhappiness, but rather the repeated bad decisions and misalignment between short-term actions and long-term values can lead to discontentment and a sense of being trapped by lifestyle and identity. The speaker's experience growing up in poverty and later in wealth illustrates this idea. Despite growing up in poverty, the speaker didn't realize it until high school when social dynamics came into play. Later in life, the speaker found that money amplified bad decisions rather than improving circumstances. The speaker emphasizes the power of identity and the importance of aligning actions with values to achieve true satisfaction. The question "what do you do?" and the subsequent comparison based on socioeconomic status is a common trap that reinforces this identity-based thinking. To break free from this cycle, it's essential to focus on what brings excitement and passion rather than just answering with a stock answer based on income or occupation.

    • Shift focus from jobs to passions for deeper connectionsChanging the conversation about ourselves from our jobs to our passions can lead to more meaningful interactions and unexpected outcomes.

      Shifting the focus of conversations from defining ourselves by our jobs to discussing our passions can lead to more meaningful interactions. The speaker, who was once an aspiring writer in the corporate world, shares how she used to answer questions about her work with "I'm really passionate about writing" instead of "I'm a writer." This approach allowed her to steer the conversation towards topics of mutual interest and passion, creating a more engaging and authentic exchange. The speaker's experience shows that the desire to change the trajectory of our lives doesn't always require a painful trigger. Instead, it can be a gradual realization that comes from introspection and a desire to connect with others on a deeper level. The speaker's passion for writing eventually led her to publish a novel and explore various writing genres, ultimately proving that following our passions can lead to beautiful and unexpected outcomes.

    • Reflecting on the Hidden Costs of PossessionsExcessive accumulation of items can lead to emotional, mental, environmental, and financial clutter. Dealing with a loved one's possessions after their passing can be a complex and emotional experience, but it can also be an opportunity to repair relationships and create meaningful connections.

      Our material possessions can hold significant emotional value and serve as reminders of past experiences. However, excessive accumulation of items can lead to mental and emotional clutter, as well as environmental and financial costs. The speaker's experience with her mother's passing made her reflect on the importance of addressing these hidden costs and the potential benefits of letting go of unnecessary items. Despite the challenges of dealing with a loved one's possessions, it can be an opportunity to repair relationships and create meaningful connections. The speaker's mother, who was an extrovert with many friends, had kept her belongings as a way to externalize memories and maintain a sense of connection with loved ones, even when they were not physically present. The process of dealing with her mother's possessions after her passing was a complex and nuanced experience for the speaker, requiring empathy, understanding, and a willingness to confront the emotional and practical challenges involved.

    • Memories are personal, not physicalDiscovering old memories triggers introspection. While we don't need physical objects to remember, the allure of storage persists due to consumer culture. Minimalism offers a counterbalance.

      Our memories are not stored in physical objects, but rather within ourselves. The speaker discovered this when they found sealed boxes of old paperwork from their childhood, realizing their mother had been holding onto memories, not the actual objects. However, the speaker also acknowledged the allure of storing things "just in case," which has led to a massive $22 billion storage industry in the US. This trend is a response to the post-industrial, post-marketing age of overindulgent consumption, where minimalism as a lifestyle offers a reaction to this excess. The speaker also admired the functional living spaces, like Graham Hill's tiny apartment, which effectively use space and inspire creativity.

    • The Impact of Compulsive Consumption on Priorities and RelationshipsExcessive consumption can negatively impact priorities, relationships, and even our souls. Decluttering possessions is a start, but prioritizing relationships and time investment is crucial.

      Our constant exposure to advertisements and the affordability of consumer goods have led to a culture of compulsive consumption, which can negatively impact our priorities, relationships, and even our souls. The decluttering of physical possessions is an important first step, but it's also essential to consider the value we place on our relationships and the time we invest in them. The speaker's personal experience of letting go of his mother's possessions and the subsequent end of his marriage served as a wake-up call to reassess his priorities and focus on what truly matters. The cultural expectations of success and accumulation of material possessions can overshadow the importance of nurturing primary relationships.

    • Futile pursuit of significance through material possessionsInstead of seeking significance through material possessions, focus on values, health, relationships, and passions for a meaningful life

      Seeking significance and worthiness through material possessions is a futile pursuit. The speaker shares his personal experience of feeling insignificant growing up and trying to find meaning in material things like NBA championship rings or luxury cars. However, he realized that true significance comes from focusing on values, health, relationships, and pursuing passions. The speaker's life changed when he discovered minimalism, which allowed him to prioritize what truly matters and let go of excess possessions. He encourages everyone to reflect on their own values and focus on living a meaningful life, rather than chasing after fleeting sources of significance.

    • Living a more intentional and meaningful life through minimalismMinimalism is about gaining clarity by temporarily removing distractions and finding what adds value in your life, not about deprivation.

      Minimalism is about more than just having fewer possessions. It's about living a more intentional and meaningful life. Minimalism can look different for everyone, and it's important to identify what the benefits are for you. Technology, including social media, can be a major distraction and make our lives more complex, making it essential to carve out space and invest in our imagination. Minimalism isn't about deprivation but about gaining clarity by temporarily removing things that don't add value. As the speaker learned from Leo Babauta, there are various recipes for minimalism, and it's essential to find what works best for you.

    • Reducing complexity for new possibilitiesMinimalism is about simplifying life, gaining control over time, and letting go of attachments for greater freedom and productivity.

      Minimalism is not about living an extreme or perfect life, but rather reducing complexity and making life simpler. While getting rid of possessions can bring a sense of euphoria or dopamine, the long-term happiness comes from realizing that it's just making way for new possibilities and potential freedom. Minimalism is about gaining control over time and being willing to let go of attachments. It's not about living in a cave or being a martyr, but rather living a simpler, more mindful life. The goal is not to sacrifice, but to gain freedom and live a more functional, productive, and imaginative life.

    • Minimalism as a way to simplify relationshipsMinimalism encourages us to assess and let go of relationships that don't serve us, allowing us to live more intentionally and meaningfully.

      Minimalism is not just about letting go of material possessions, but also about being willing to reassess and walk away from anything that doesn't serve us, including relationships. This willingness to commit and reassess creates a deeper form of commitment and allows us to live more intentionally and deliberately. The movie "Heat" with Robert De Niro and the philosophy of Fight Club both embody this idea of minimalism as a way to simplify and live more meaningfully. Minimalism is not about exploding everything around us, but rather making conscious choices informed by our values to live the life we want. It's not a one-size-fits-all approach, and it can be practiced in various ways, from living with a few possessions to living a more intentional life with a family.

    • Embrace intentionality and self-expression through minimalismMinimalism is a lifestyle that values experiences, relationships, and intentional use of possessions over material accumulation.

      The things we own don't hold inherent meaning; it's the meaning we assign to them that matters. Love people, not things, and use material possessions to enhance our lives rather than letting them consume us. Minimalism is about prioritizing experiences and relationships over material goods. The Internet has democratized content creation and distribution, allowing individuals to share their ideas without the need for approval from gatekeepers. Embrace the power of saying no and focus on what truly serves the greater good. In essence, minimalism is a radical approach to living that encourages intentionality, self-expression, and the pursuit of experiences that add value to our lives.

    • Aligning short-term actions with long-term valuesBe present and intentional with decisions for meaningful growth and success. Declutter and focus on what truly matters to facilitate this mindset.

      Focusing on aligning short-term actions with long-term values, rather than having a rigid plan, allows for meaningful growth and success. The speaker emphasizes the importance of being present and intentional with decisions, especially in a world filled with distractions. This approach allows for better decision-making in all areas of life, from relationships to consumption habits. The minimalist lifestyle, with its focus on decluttering and intentionality, can help facilitate this mindset. However, staying present and intentional requires a conscious effort in today's technology-driven world.

    • The importance of seeking out meaningful experiences and discomfortFilling ourselves with empty experiences through technology can hinder growth. Seek meaningful experiences and discomfort for personal growth and fulfillment.

      Constantly filling ourselves with empty experiences through technology, much like consuming an entire diet of candy, can lead to a lack of nourishment and fulfillment in our lives. It's important to seek out meaningful experiences and discomfort, as these are the things that truly help us grow and find satisfaction. The speaker draws on the metaphor from David Foster Wallace's "Infinite Jest" and shares his personal experience of pushing himself outside of his comfort zone through a 100 city tour, despite hating travel, public speaking, and crowds. By embracing discomfort and connecting with others, we can create meaningful movements and find a sense of purpose beyond momentary happiness.

    • The power of emotional connection in minimalismEffective communication in minimalism relies on emotional connection. Stories that resonate, like Ryan's packing party, can reach a wider audience than academic concepts.

      Meaningful connection and emotional resonance are key components of effective communication, especially in the context of sharing messages about minimalism and living a meaningful life. The Minimalists, Josh and Ryan, learned this lesson during their first tour for their book "Minimalism," where they discovered that stories that emotionally connect with people, like Ryan's packing party or discovering hidden boxes, resonate more than academically or intellectually understood concepts. Their friendship, built on opposing personality types but a pedagogical relationship, has allowed them to share different perspectives and reach a wide audience, from children to great grandmothers. Minimalism, at its core, is about detachment and non-attachment, not just to material possessions, but also to expectations, outcomes, and attachments to how things should be. By recognizing that stuff can augment our experience of life, we can focus on owning things that bring value and joy, and letting go of excess.

    • Inspired by others to simplify and live more intentionallyObserving someone's happiness from a simpler life can inspire us to make changes and live more intentionally. Choosing to simplify without waiting for a crisis or a divine moment is the most challenging yet rewarding thing.

      Living a boxed-in life can lead to painful experiences and a desire for change. Sometimes, it takes a significant event or "divine moment" to shake things up and inspire us to simplify and live more intentionally. However, it's not necessary to suffer to make a change. Seeing someone else's happiness and contentment can also be a powerful motivator. Ryan, from the movie "The Minimalists," was inspired by a friend's happiness after simplifying his life, and he went on to do the same. Ryan's approach involved packing up all his belongings as if he were moving and only unpacking what he truly needed. This experiment helped him realize what was adding value to his life and led to a simpler, more intentional way of living. Ultimately, the most challenging, yet rewarding, thing is to wake up one day and choose to live more simply, without waiting for a crisis or a divine moment.

    • Reevaluating possessions and identityMinimalism encourages us to question our motivations and desires, letting go of items that don't serve a purpose and focusing on what truly matters for a more intentional life

      Material possessions, no matter how much effort and resources we put into acquiring them, may not bring us the happiness we expect if we can't even remember or access them. This is because these possessions often become symbols of our identity rather than sources of joy. Minimalism, therefore, encourages us to reevaluate not just our relationship with our things but also our sense of self and what truly matters to us. Letting go of items that don't serve a purpose, such as awards, books, or trophies, can be a challenging but necessary step towards living a more intentional life. The question "what if everything you ever wanted isn't what you actually want?" encapsulates the essence of minimalism, as it challenges us to question our motivations and desires. By asking why we want what we want, we can make more informed decisions and focus on pursuits that truly bring meaning and fulfillment to our lives.

    • 30-day minimalism game for starting smallStart small with decluttering projects or the 30-day minimalism game to build momentum and reduce possessions.

      Starting small is key when it comes to minimalism. The 30-day minimalism game, which involves getting rid of a certain number of items each day, is a great way to begin decluttering and build momentum. It starts off easy but quickly becomes challenging, making it an enjoyable and effective way to reduce possessions. For those interested in minimalism, starting with a small project like a one-room packing party or joining the 30-day minimalism game can help kickstart the journey. Remember, the important thing is to start somewhere. To learn more and connect with Joshua Fields Millburn and Ryan Nicodemus, check out their website, minimalist.com, or find them on social media.

    • Evaluate and inventory your possessionsAssessing what you truly use and need can lead to productivity, improved well-being, and the opportunity to donate unwanted items to charity.

      The importance of evaluating and inventorying your material possessions. The host encourages listeners to assess what they truly use and need, and consider letting go of items that are just taking up space. This exercise can lead to a sense of productivity and improved well-being, and the opportunity to donate unwanted items to charity. The host also expresses gratitude to listeners for their support, including sharing the podcast, leaving reviews, and using the Amazon and Patreon banners. He offers a free weekly email newsletter with tips and resources, and thanks his team for their contributions.

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