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    • Discussing the gravity of the situation in Ukraine and the potential use of devastating weaponsThe ongoing conflict in Ukraine poses a complex and dangerous situation, with potential use of cluster bombs, thermobaric weapons, and even nuclear weapons, making it a cyber war that requires global attention and understanding.

      The world is facing a complex and dangerous situation with the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the potential use of devastating weapons. During a podcast discussion, the hosts expressed their concerns over the situation and shared personal experiences related to warfare. They also touched upon the use of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) as a topic for their show, mentioning the impact of a book on the UAP community. The hosts' conversation shifted to their thoughts on the war in Ukraine, with one host sharing his experiences covering wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the horrors of cluster bombs and thermobaric weapons. The other host expressed his shock over Putin's threats of nuclear weapons and the potential for a third world war. Both hosts agreed that the situation is already a cyber war and that people may not fully understand the risks involved. Overall, the podcast episode highlighted the gravity of the situation in Ukraine and the potential dangers it poses to the world.

    • Living in Dangerous Times: Nuclear War and UAPsThe proximity of nuclear war and potential encounters with non-human intelligent beings pose significant risks and leave us questioning their intentions and motivations, with no clear evidence to support current theories.

      We are currently living in dangerous times with heightened risks of nuclear war and potential encounters with non-human intelligent beings. The proximity of nuclear conflagration is closer than during the Cold War, and the risk of escalation is enormous. The UAP issue adds another layer of complexity, as there is evidence suggesting the existence of an advanced, technologically advanced civilization that is concerned about our nuclear capabilities. The implications of this are significant, and it leaves us wondering about their intentions and motivations. The Russian and Chinese drone theories have been proposed, but there is currently no concrete evidence to support these claims. The ongoing conflict in Ukraine further complicates the situation, with no clear indication of advanced drone technology being used by any side. Overall, we are in uncharted territory, and it is crucial to stay informed and vigilant.

    • Senator raises concern over nominee's lack of UAP knowledgeSenator highlights the need for oversight figures to be informed about UAP, with recent events and reports increasing public interest and potential security implications.

      During a confirmation hearing for the nominee to be the inspector general for the defense department, Robert Storch, Senator Kristen Gillibrand expressed concern over his lack of knowledge about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP). Storch, who professed to not be familiar with the issue, was asked to provide written responses before his confirmation. This incident highlights the need for those in oversight roles to be well-informed about UAP, as it has gained significant attention in recent times. Another notable development is the release of over 500 UFO reports by the Canadian government, dating back 20 years. These reports, which include sightings from commercial pilots, military personnel, and police officers, underscore the prevalence of UAP sightings and the reluctance of people to report them. The Canadian Air Force, a part of the Five Eyes Alliance, previously dismissed UAP as not a national security concern. However, the increasing number of reports and public interest in the phenomenon may prompt a reevaluation of this stance. Overall, these developments underscore the importance of continued investigation and transparency regarding UAP.

    • Downplaying UAP in Airspace: A National Security ConcernDecades of dismissing UAP in military airspace as insignificant poses a national security risk, as unidentified objects can be potential threats. Recent push for transparency and disclosure by senators and former officials may lead to revelations.

      For decades, military officials from the Canadian, American, British, and Australian Air Forces, as well as the US Air Force, have publicly downplayed the significance of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) in their airspace, despite internal concerns and evidence to the contrary. This is a breach of national security, as any unidentified object entering a sovereign nation's airspace is a potential threat. Recently, senators like Gillibrand and Rubio have been pushing for transparency and public disclosure of classified information regarding UAP. Additionally, former government officials, such as Daniel Sheehan and Lou Elizondo, have come forward with allegations of UAP crashes and cover-ups. The public release of previously classified information and congressional briefings have left some officials rattled and eager for further disclosure. The situation appears to be changing, but the full implications have yet to be realized. It's important to note that Daniel Sheehan, who previously spoke about a UAP crash during the Carter administration, is now Lou Elizondo's attorney. A previous statement regarding a skiff briefing was incorrect and should be clarified as a conversation in a hotel room between John Ramirez and senior CIA colleagues.

    • A journalist's fascination with UFOs and the taboo surrounding their coverageJournalist Ross Coulthart's investigation into the Kaikoura UFO incident uncovered a cover-up, fueling his curiosity about UAPs. Despite skepticism and taboo, he wrote a book detailing his journey to uncover the truth behind UFOs in journalism.

      Journalist and author, Ross Coulthart, was fascinated by UFOs from a young age due to numerous sightings and incidents, including the Kaikoura UFO incident in New Zealand. However, his interest was met with skepticism and taboo throughout his journalism career. Despite this, Coulthart's investigation into the Kaikoura incident revealed a cover-up by the New Zealand Air Force, which fueled his curiosity. He found that editors and producers consistently dismissed UFO stories due to fear and stigma. Coulthart's book, "In Plain Sight," details his journey to uncover the truth behind UAPs and the reasons for the taboo surrounding the topic in journalism.

    • Encountering Credible UFO Accounts Changed a Journalist's PerspectiveA journalist, once dismissive of UFOs, changed his mind after encountering numerous credible accounts from trusted sources, leading him to explore the Australian UFO archives and uncover a cover-up.

      The speaker, who has had a long career in journalism, has come to acknowledge the significance of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) after encountering numerous credible accounts from trusted sources. Initially dismissive, he was later ashamed of his past disrespectful attitude towards people reporting UFO sightings. He was particularly intrigued by the parallels between Australian and American UFO stories. When writing his book, he initially focused on the international story but was surprised by the wealth of information in the Australian archives. A pivotal moment was discovering a defense department scientist's plea for a UFO investigation team in the 1970s, who believed there was a cover-up in the US. The speaker's perspective was transformed when he learned about the scientist's own UFO investigations at secret Australian nuclear testing sites in the 1950s and 1960s.

    • Protecting sources in investigative journalismInvestigative journalists must balance protecting sources with transparency to maintain trust and credibility while reporting on sensitive topics like UAP.

      Protecting sources is crucial in investigative journalism, especially when reporting on sensitive topics like Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP). During his career, investigative journalist Richard Freeman learned this lesson early on while working for Australia's top public affairs show, Four Corners. He gained the trust of senior officers in the Australian Air Force, who introduced him to pilots with firsthand accounts of anomalous objects. However, these pilots were reluctant to go public due to the stigma associated with UFOs. Freeman assured them that their identities would be protected, and in return, they shared valuable information. While protecting sources is essential, it can also create challenges, such as skepticism from the public. Freeman used pseudonyms for some sources in his book but wished he could persuade more of them to go on the record. The balance between protecting sources and maintaining transparency is a complex issue that investigative journalists often face.

    • Individuals with UAP knowledge bound by security oathsSome people with critical UAP info can't testify due to oaths, but Senator Gillibrand pushes for their release to speak in hearings. Public interest in UAP grows, and transparency is crucial.

      That there are individuals who possess critical information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) but are unable to share it due to binding security oaths. These individuals are required to conceal the existence of special access programs related to UAP, even if it means lying. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and others have been advocating for the release of these individuals from their security oaths to testify in upcoming congressional hearings. The public interest in UAP is growing, and the need for transparency and accountability is becoming increasingly important. Ross's research and book have provided a valuable resource for those who want to understand the history and investigative aspects of UAP but may not have the time to do so themselves. The upcoming congressional report on UAP is expected towards the end of the year, and it remains to be seen how the issue will be addressed in terms of allowing individuals to testify under oath while being released from their security oaths.

    • The Reality of UFOs and Government Cover-UpBryce Zabel's book reveals historical evidence and official documents supporting the legitimacy of UFOs and the US government's involvement in concealing related information.

      Key takeaway from Bryce Zabel's book is the legitimacy of the UFO phenomenon and the government's involvement in concealing information related to it. Zabel emphasizes that the historical evidence and official documents reveal the reality of UFOs, making it clear that this is not an airy-faith subject matter. He structures his investigation like a road trip, leading readers on a journey of discovery. The Salvatore Payee story, a Navy scientist with extraordinary patent applications for operable force field generators and fusion technology, is a prime example of the US government acknowledging knowledge of UFO-related technologies. Zabel argues that the cover-up surrounding UFOs is the first rail of proof, and he remains uncertain about specific incidents like Roswell but certain that the level of cover-up is disproportionate to the information being concealed. He also points out that recent events, such as President Obama's refusal to discuss aliens publicly, further support the idea that the government is hiding something significant.

    • Suspicion of Extraterrestrial Technology Retrieval by US, Russia, and ChinaFormer US intelligence officials and scientists suspect the US, Russia, and China have retrieved non-human technology possibly from extraterrestrial spacecraft. Washington officials have shifted their language, and the Pentagon's lack of transparency fuels suspicion.

      According to the speaker, there is strong suspicion that the US, Russia, and China have retrieved non-human technology, possibly from extraterrestrial spacecraft. This belief is not only held by the speaker but also by several credible sources including former US intelligence officials and scientists. The speaker argues that there has been a significant shift in the way officials in Washington talk about this issue, and the lack of transparency from the Pentagon regarding this matter suggests that there is something being concealed. The speaker calls for the media to start asking hard questions about this issue, as there seems to be a reckoning coming where the truth about this alleged technology may be revealed. However, the speaker also suspects that the US may only admit to discovering something that makes them believe there is non-human life on Earth, but not to the longer history of crash retrievals and reverse engineering programs.

    • UFO Investigation: National Security and Non-Human IntelligenceThe UFO investigation is gaining recognition with evidence suggesting non-human intelligence involvement, impacting national security and global tensions, and the speaker's personal connection adds to the appeal of his book.

      The investigation into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) or UFOs is gaining more recognition and credibility, with insiders believing that non-human intelligence is involved. The importance of this technology to national security, along with global tensions with China, Ukraine, and Iran, may influence the timing and extent of public disclosure. The speaker's family has been supportive of his involvement in the investigation, recognizing the evidence he has uncovered. The personal nature of his book, "Trail of the Saucers," adds to its appeal and makes it a compelling read for those interested in the topic.

    • Emphasizing transparency and staying informedThe Need to Know team is dedicated to tackling important issues with honesty and encourages listeners to stay informed.

      If you want to access the podcast or video version of the discussion, visit needtoknow.today for a one-stop shop. The hosts emphasized their commitment to transparency and encouraged listeners to stay informed. Despite the importance of the information shared, they reassured their audience, "We can handle the truth." This suggests that the discussions on the platform tackle significant issues, but the hosts are prepared to address them openly. Stay tuned for future episodes at needtoknow.today.

    Recent Episodes from Need To Know with Coulthart and Zabel

    Zero Doubt

    Zero Doubt
    In this episode, Ross Coulthart reports from an undisclosed location in the U.S., sharing insights from the SCU conference in Huntsville, which concentrated on scientific approaches to UAPs. He reflects on a recent interview with Colonel Karl Nell, discussing Nell’s remarks about long-standing interactions between non-human intelligence (NHI) and humanity. Meanwhile, Bryce Zabel in Los Angeles connects the 80th anniversary of D-Day to contemporary secrecy around UAPs, emphasizing the impact of such secrecy on public trust and innovation. They explore the skepticism about governmental transparency on UAPs and consider how the political landscape might influence the push for disclosure, especially with the upcoming elections. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Swagger and Secrets

    Swagger and Secrets
    In this episode, hosts Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart delve into the complexities of UAP investigations, spotlighting the AARO's dubious reporting and the Pentagon's evasion in acknowledging UAP incidents. They explore the recent Eglin Air Force Base encounter and the broader implications of drone sightings that challenge national security. The hosts critique the media's failure to engage deeply with these issues, emphasizing the need for greater transparency and investigative rigor in covering UAP and drone encounters. Featuring pilot testimonies and expert analysis, this episode uncovers the ongoing secrecy and the quest for truth in the increasingly convoluted field of ufology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UAP Burnout

    UAP Burnout
    It's an issue that's touched many in the UAP community, and worthy of a long discussion: fatigue from covering UAP, interacting with the community, fending off the flamers and trying to stay grounded. Bryce shares the tale of his ten-year hiatus while Ross commends Curt Jaimungal's recent decision to 'step away' for a while. But there's also hope, says Ross, citing three members of Congress and their attempts to interview an Air Force pilot over his 2023 sighting - and the video he captured. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    More UFO Lies & Coverup

    More UFO Lies & Coverup
    Ross and Bryce take turns teeing off on the Defense Department's report that was supposed to chronicle the US government's history of dealing with the UFO/UAP issue. Among their conclusions about the reports "conclusions:" It's more Pentagon obfuscation to deter public attention; a kneejerk polemic against former AARO head Sean Kirkpatrick's critics; not a hint of historical review; and from a couple of lawmakers who talked to Ross: Congress is NOT letting this issue go. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Adios, Voldemort

    Adios, Voldemort
    "Voldemort," in this podcast, is Bryce's new name for Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the now-former head of AARO, the Defense Department's "All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office." Bryce and Ross rip Kirkpatrick's exit statements, including his assertion that a soon to be released Pentagon report will say it's found no evidence of aliens, only allegations circulated repeatedly by UFO claim advocates. The other big event in the episode: "Need to Know," the song! Bryce explains the history of the song he co-composed - and we play it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Is This the Year?

    Is This the Year?
    Bryce and Ross begin 2024 with a quick look back at the big events of last year: David Grusch's revelations and the gutting of the Schumer Amendment to the Defense bill. Then they look ahead to this year and an upcoming House Oversight Committee hearing, Lue Elizondo's book and Grusch's op-ed piece on the heels of the US government slightly loosening what he's able to reveal. And Ross drops a big hint about what could be a very big story: new data from the James Webb Space Telescope. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UFO Gatekeepers Strike Back

    UFO Gatekeepers Strike Back
    Disappointment and some disagreements in this episode, as Ross and Bryce review the amended version of Sen. Chuck Schumer's disclosure language in the new Defense bill. Ross blames "lickspittle Congressmen" in the pockets of the aerospace companies for turning Schumer's disclosure proposals into a "flaccid limp lettuce leaf." The two set the table for a future discussion on what both believe would be a very bad idea: "catastrophic disclosure." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    JFK and UFOs?

    JFK and UFOs?
    Approaching the 60th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Bryce and Ross examine the similarities between the efforts to conceal the truth about the President's death and concealing the truth about UFO/UAP. Also: as predicted in the last episode, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick is, indeed, leading AARO. So who will succeed him? And will that person bring a different opinion about whistleblower David Grusch? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Same Old UFO Song

    Same Old UFO Song
    Ross and Bryce catch up on several developments of the past few weeks, including the latest report from AARO. Ross calls out what he labels "completely disingenuous" statements by the agency's head, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, downplaying the UAP reports the agency reviewed in the 2023 US Government fiscal year. Ross calls the report "The Big Yawn." Ross and Bryce disagree on whether private aerospace firms, who've spent millions of their own dollars on crash retrieval, should be forced to turn any physical evidence over to the government. And Bryce reviews the high points of 1948, a banner year that saw dozens of credible UFO/UAP sightings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    UFO Word Games

    UFO Word Games
    Ross and Bryce are back with tough words for what they call the "word games" being played by the Department of Defense, NASA and others in the US government about the evidence - or lack of evidence - regarding what we know about UAP and the possibility of non-human intelligence. Bryce scorches NASA Director Bill Nelson over his "lack of evidence" comments, and Ross takes an AP reporter to task for apparently not even reading a government report before questioning officials about that very report. And the hosts do a "lighting round" of comments on several other recent UAP developments. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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