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    'Interrupt The Systems': Robin DiAngelo On 'White Fragility' And Anti-Racism

    en-usJune 18, 2020

    Podcast Summary

    • Reflecting on White Racial Experiences and BiasesWhite people should examine their own racial experiences and biases to gain valuable insights and become less defensive in conversations about racism.

      It's essential for white people to examine their own racial experiences and biases, as outlined in Robin DiAngelo's book "White Fragility." White people often try to dismiss the importance of addressing racism with excuses like "I already know it's bad" or "I marched in the sixties." However, these attitudes hinder growth and prevent us from gaining valuable insights. By reflecting on our own racial experiences, we can better understand our biases and become less defensive when confronted with our complicity. Supporting this episode of NPR's Life Kit is Whole Foods Market, where you can host a budget-friendly celebratory brunch with items like cold smoked Atlantic salmon, mini quiches, and organic everything bagels. Additionally, Equinix, the world's digital infrastructure company, encourages bringing your ideas to the next level by visiting their website, equinix.com/solutions.

    • Apple Card cashback percentages varyUnderstanding and addressing systemic racism requires education, self-reflection, and active efforts to dismantle biased structures.

      Apple Card offers different cashback percentages depending on the method of purchase: 3% for Apple products, 2% for Apple Card purchases made with Apple Pay, and 1% for purchases made with the physical or virtual card. Regarding racism, it's important to understand that it's not just about overt actions but also the institutionalized and systemic bias that supports it. White people can unintentionally perpetuate racism by not actively interrupting and challenging these systems, making it essential to acknowledge and address our biases and complicity. This process involves education, self-reflection, and actively working to dismantle racist structures. It's crucial to recognize that there's no neutral place in this issue, and being complicit with the system is just as harmful as intentional racism.

    • Reflect, learn, and challenge assumptions about racismWhite people should engage in ongoing education, self-reflection, and use resources to challenge assumptions and biases about racism, recognizing it's systemic nature.

      Addressing racism requires deep reflection, listening to and learning from the experiences of people of color, and a willingness to challenge our own assumptions and biases. It's important for white people to engage in ongoing education and self-reflection, rather than viewing this as a one-time event. Resources like Dr. Eddie Moore's 21-day racial equity building challenge and Leila Saad's "Me and White Supremacy Workbook" can help facilitate this process. It's essential to recognize that racism is systemic and not just about individual conscious actions, which can help reduce defensiveness in conversations about race. By expanding our understanding of what racism is, we can begin to dismantle it and create a more equitable society.

    • How have we been shaped by racism and white privilege?Instead of dwelling on whether we've been shaped, focus on how and take action to address it. Reflect on reasons for not seeking knowledge earlier and engage in conversations with other white people to promote growth.

      Instead of focusing on whether we've been shaped by the system, we should focus on how we've been shaped and what actions we can take to address it. When we ask ourselves "if" we've been shaped, the answer is often a simple "no." But when we ask ourselves "how," we open up a lifelong process of self-discovery and growth. Two common questions that come up when discussing racism and white privilege are "what can I do?" and "how do I talk to other white people about racism?" The first question can be answered by reflecting on why we haven't sought out this knowledge until now and making a plan to address those reasons. The second question requires recognizing that we are not exempt from the conversation and that our own conditioning is an essential part of the equation. By focusing on our own growth, we become more effective at helping others see theirs.

    • Challenging the norm of racismAs white people, we need to make it uncomfortable for ourselves to challenge racism by engaging in educational resources, attending seminars, and actively seeking out knowledge to combat systemic racism.

      While the ongoing protests against racial injustice are hopeful, it's crucial to consider what actions will be taken once the spotlight fades. The speaker emphasizes that the status quo of society is racism, and as white people, we need to make it uncomfortable for ourselves to challenge this norm. Some recommended steps include engaging in educational resources like the 21 Day Racial Equity Building Challenge, Leila Saad's Me and White Supremacy Workbook, and attending seminars and workshops. Breaking the apathy and actively seeking out these resources is essential. Robin DiAngelo's book, White Fragility, can also provide insight into why it's difficult for white people to discuss racism. Overall, it's essential to recognize that we are not post-racial and that sustained efforts are necessary to combat systemic racism.

    • Acknowledging Deep-rooted Issues: Racism and Pop CultureUnderstanding and acknowledging deep-rooted issues like racism is crucial before attempting to solve them. Relatable storytelling in various forms of media, such as music and podcasts, can provide insight and connection.

      Our digital editor, Beth Harlan, interviewed James McBride on NPR's It's Been a Minute, where McBride spoke candidly about racism being a persistent issue in America, comparing it to a disease or cancer. He emphasized the importance of acknowledging the problem before trying to solve it. NPR sponsor Charles Schwab's Choiceology podcast was also mentioned, featuring Katie Milkman discussing the psychology and economics behind people's decisions. Additionally, Taylor Swift released a new album, making headlines as the biggest pop star in the world, and her music resonates with listeners due to its relatability. The Pop Culture Happy Hour podcast from NPR provides a breakdown of Swift's new album for those interested. Overall, these stories highlight the importance of acknowledging and understanding deep-rooted issues, as well as the power of storytelling and relatability in various forms of media.

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