antiracism

This week, Dr. Ibram X. Kendi breaks down how race has shaped and influenced the way we move through the world.

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“What if instead of a feelings advocacy we had an outcome advocacy that put equitable outcomes before our guilt and anguish?” wrote Ibram X. Kendi in his 2019 book “How to Be an Antiracist.” “What if we focused our human and fiscal resources on changing power and policy to actually make society, not just our feelings, better?”

When I first read “How to Be an Antiracist” in the fall of 2019, I was struck by Kendi’s relentless focus on outcomes. For him, racism wasn’t about what you intended, or what you felt. If a given policy or action reduced racial inequality, it was antiracist; if it increased racial inequality, it was racist. If you support policies that reduce racial inequality you are being antiracist; if you aren’t, you’re being racist. That’s it.

These days, Kendi needs little introduction. “How to Be an Antiracist” has become one of the signature texts of the post-George Floyd moment. And Kendi himself has become a central figure of the antiracist movement, having launched a vast array of projects, from his new podcast, “Be Antiracist,” to his children’s book “Antiracist Baby” to his Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University.

But I’ve often wondered about the genuine radicalism of Kendi’s work as it has phased from book to phenomenon. There are certainly some people who are doing the real, hard analytical and empirical work that Kendi actually calls for. But a lot of what occurs under the banner of “antiracism” is putting up yard signs, publicly acknowledging privilege and issuing statements of solidarity without the consequentialist analysis he demands.

So I wanted to have a conversation that really took Kendi’s approach to antiracism seriously. Spoiler alert: It’s hard. We discuss policy issues ranging from police defunding to open borders and interest rates, the research on corporate diversity and inclusion trainings, the political tradeoffs of Barack Obama’s presidency, the cases where a policy might reduce racial inequality but the backlash to it might increase it, the right-wing assault on critical race theory, visions of a positive-sum racial future and much more.

References:

Stamped from the Beginning by Ibram X. Kendi

Book recommendations: 

Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment Is Killing America's Heartland by Jonathan M. Metzl

The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together by Heather McGhee

Race for Profit: How Banks and the Real Estate Industry Undermined Black Homeownership by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor

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Joining me this week is, Sonja Price Herbert, a classical Pilates Rebel empowering black representation within the fitness industry for over a decade. This led her to found; Black Girl Pilates, Black Girl Fit & Well, Melanin Brothers of Pilates, and platforms alleviating and supporting black afro-latino pilates instructors. She increases black visibility through writing, speaking, and anti-racism training.

In this episode, I share: 

• [3:23] Racism in the pilates industry
• [4:50] Who started pilates
• [5:44] Pilates caters to the wealthy communities
• [8:03] White supremacy linked to fitness
• [9:39] Feeling unsafe in a class
• [10:01] ‘Mash-Up’ (Dance + Pilates)
• [10:51] A Ballet Dancer
• [11:24] Pilates is for Everyone
• [13:08] Violating space
• [16:11] Real-world of Pilates
• [16:49] Sonja shares how she started teaching anti-racism
• [18:53] Sonja’s experience with racism
• [19:38] Level of bullying on social media is high
• [20:40] “ The Caged Lion” by John Steele
• [23:22] Division of Pilates into different camps
• [24:18] Health and wellness should be for everyone
• [25:10] Pilates is not for weight loss
• [26:10] PMA( Pilates Method Alliance) Certification & how they are not inclusive
• [28:57] Gifted instructors are not given the opportunity
• [29:36] PMA’s New Board still not addressing racism
• [30:47] Black Girls Pilates are working to make changes
• [32:43] Sonya shares some of her Anti-Racism Seminar Part 1 Introduction
• [35:34] Part 2 Elitism, Legacy, and Racism and how they intersect
• [35:56] Part 3 White Washing of Certification
• [36:18] How to Develop an Anti-Racism Plan for Studios & Gyms Workshop
• [36:24] Listen, Learn, and Act Workshop
• [36:35] Acknowledging you are part of the problem
• [37:52] The black community does more than racism awareness
• [41:10] My thoughts on white supremacy

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You might detest bigotry and injustice, but have you done anything to address these problems? There are many reasons we stay silent and inactive when we know we should intervene to defend the rights of others. We look at the psychology underpinning our reluctance to act and the ways in which we can match our moral beliefs with concrete actions.

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Learn today the importance and necessity of having difficult conversations about the Black Lives Matter Movement and why they need to happen. In today’s episode, Rob discusses why failing to speak up on the movement is being complicit, how to start these difficult conversations and why it is not enough to just be ‘not racist’ when you need to be proactively not racist.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Financial empowerment is activism. If you are financially empowered you are able to take a step back from your own business or projects and say that this topic is more important to you, and if people in your world do not understand that, then they're probably in the wrong world.

• Failing to speak up on the matter is being complicit, it is the same as turning a blind eye. It is important to encourage everybody to talk about the Black Lives Matter movement, if you are scared to talk about the movement or you just don’t know where to start, then the best place to start is just by admitting that to your following and educating yourself further.

• Ask yourself, does your world and your work reflect the society in which we live in? We all have to take some responsibility to do an audit on ourselves and ask ‘are we making our work accessible to everybody.” It is not enough to say ‘anyone can join!’ Does it look like anyone can join? Or does it look like what you do is only for a certain person?

• When people talk about white people having ‘white privilege’ they are not saying that you as an individual have led a privileged life, they are saying that out of all the problems you have faced and overcome, your skin colour was never one of them and never will be.

• A really important place to start when educating yourself on the hardships people face in regards to racism and prejudice is by having difficult and honest conversations with those that have experienced it. It is about moving from being not racist to being proactively anti-racist.

• There are thousands of people out there right now, not knowing what to say or not fully understanding the Black Lives Matter Movement, if they all continue to stay silent then we are unable to move forward. If we can encourage little by little to start these conversations that’s how long term change happens.

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“I’ve seen so many different sides to this conversation and I truly believe that silence is being complicit.”

“Until black lives matter, all lives matter is actually just redundant.”

“We are all guilty of all kinds of things, and that is part of being human, that’s part of learning and that’s part of growing.”

“Change doesn’t happen with the people that are already having these conversations having more conversations.”

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