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    James Hohmann: DeSantis Joins the Surrender Caucus

    en-usMarch 14, 2023

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    • Mixed Feelings on Government Intervention in the Stock MarketGovernment intervention in the stock market provides relief from crashes but raises concerns about moral hazard, potential long-term consequences, and blurred lines between individual responsibility and government intervention.

      The recent banking instability and subsequent government intervention in the stock market has left James Homan, Washington Post columnist, with mixed feelings. While it's a relief that the market didn't crash, he's concerned about the moral hazard and potential long-term consequences of continued bailouts. He believes that the sense of security that comes from expecting government intervention could lead to reckless behavior and fuel populist anger. The line between socialism for the elite and rugged individualism for the rest of us is becoming increasingly blurred. Despite the need to prevent catastrophic financial collapses and protect smaller banks, Homan acknowledges the frustration with the current state of affairs. The internalization of the belief that "mom and dad" will always bail us out could encourage risky investments, further blurring the lines between responsibility and government intervention.

    • Culture of Entitlement and Lack of AccountabilityThe pervasive culture in America of expecting government bailouts disregards deficit and debt concerns, leading to unsustainable consequences for the country.

      There's a pervasive culture in America where people expect to be bailed out by the government, leading to a spiraling effect of increasing demands for aid. This mentality, fueled by political connections and bipartisan support, disregards the deficit and debt concerns. Even prominent figures like Ron DeSantis align themselves with controversial positions, such as downplaying the importance of Ukraine to America's vital interests, to appeal to their constituency and maintain their political image. This situation is frustrating as there's a lack of leadership advocating for fiscal responsibility and tough decisions. Ultimately, this culture of entitlement and lack of accountability is unsustainable and could have significant long-term consequences for the country.

    • Ron DeSantis' stance on Ukraine raises concerns about his readiness to leadDeSantis' dismissive stance on Ukraine as a mere territorial dispute contrasts with bipartisan consensus, potentially damaging his credibility and ability to win over the Republican base and donor class.

      Ron DeSantis' recent statements on Ukraine and his apparent reluctance to support the ongoing conflict raise concerns about his seriousness and readiness to lead as a potential Republican presidential nominee. His stance, which seems to dismiss the invasion as a mere territorial dispute, contrasts sharply with the bipartisan consensus that it's a fight for freedom and democracy. Moreover, his apparent pandering to certain political figures like Tucker Carlson could damage his credibility and ability to consolidate support from those who want a viable alternative to Donald Trump. The lack of nuance and seriousness displayed in his statements on Ukraine could make it harder for him to win over the Republican Party base and donor class. Ultimately, his political rise and lack of experience in give-and-take political debates may have left him unprepared for the rigors of a presidential campaign.

    • DeSantis' Foreign Policy Stance: A Blank Slate?DeSantis' lack of clear foreign policy stance leaves him vulnerable to being defined by others, particularly in contrast to his past views. He needs to define himself to avoid being insincere or perceived as pandering.

      Ron DeSantis' recent actions and refusal to engage with the mainstream media on foreign policy issues may complicate his bid for the presidency. While some may see it as an advantage for him to be a blank slate, the lack of definition leaves him vulnerable to being defined by others, particularly in the context of foreign policy where he has previously held strong views. DeSantis' past stance on Ukraine, for instance, contrasts with his current approach, which some may view as insincere or pandering. This inconsistency could make it difficult for him to win over voters who are looking for a clear and authentic leader on the world stage. Ultimately, DeSantis needs to define himself and his foreign policy stance to avoid being defined by his opponents or the media.

    • U.S. rhetoric towards Russia could have serious global consequencesThe leading Republican candidates' rhetoric towards Russia could weaken America's position as a global leader, embolden Russia and China, and have immediate and long-term consequences on the global stage.

      The rhetoric from the leading Republican candidates regarding U.S. foreign policy towards Russia could have serious and immediate consequences on the global stage. Vladimir Putin and European leaders may perceive this as a sign of weakened American commitment to alliances and may make decisions accordingly. This could embolden Russia to continue pushing boundaries and weaken America's position as a global leader. The lack of a strong U.S. stance could also encourage China to be more assertive. This is not just a concern for the future, but the present as well, as decisions are being made now about the reliability of the U.S. as an ally. This rhetoric is a dangerous echo of the past and risks repeating the mistakes of the Cold War era. It's important to remember that the actions of world leaders today have real-world consequences.

    • Republican Divide: Pro-Coup vs Anti-Coup in UkraineThe GOP is split on Ukraine's democracy and freedom, with some figures advocating for support and others being more hesitant. This divide could shape the upcoming debates and provide opportunities for underperforming candidates to make a defining statement.

      The ongoing debate within the Republican Party regarding Ukraine's democracy and freedom is a significant dividing line. The ideological rift can be categorized as "pro-coup" versus "anti-coup." While some Republican figures like Nikki Haley, Mike Pompeo, and Mike Pence have taken strong pro-Ukrainian positions, others like DeSantis and Trump are seen as more reluctant. The upcoming debates may not result in a robust discussion on this issue, with candidates like Haley potentially equivocating rather than taking a firm stance. However, there is an opportunity for underperforming candidates to seize on this issue and make it a defining part of their campaigns. Mike Pence, who has been more vocal about his stance against the coup, is seen as having half courage due to his actions during his time in office but his reluctance to fully engage in the debate. Ultimately, the outcome of this debate will depend on which candidates are willing to take a clear and bold stance on the issue.

    • Pence takes a swipe at Fox News during Gridiron speechMike Pence criticized Trump's actions on Jan 6th and Fox News for downplaying the events, aligning with those who see it as significant.

      Mike Pence's criticism of former President Trump during his Gridiron speech was not only a criticism of Trump's actions on January 6th, but also a clear swipe at Tucker Carlson and Fox News for downplaying the events of that day. Pence's constituency remains a mystery, and his cautious language and variations in wording regarding January 6th may not be enough to appease both the media elite and the Republican base. Despite his criticism, Pence has not shown any clear signs of running for president, and the biggest dividing line in the Republican party remains pro-coup versus anti-coup. Pence's alignment with those who believe the events of January 6th were significant and not a "tourist visit" is a risky move, but one that aligns with the overwhelming feeling among many in the Republican party.

    • Biden navigating Democratic Party's political landscapeBiden balancing centrist and progressive concerns, appealing to swing voters, long-term political experience, generational divide within party

      President Joe Biden is trying to navigate the political landscape of his own party by addressing the concerns of centrist voters while keeping the progressive wing at bay. He's making moves to appeal to moderate voters on issues like crime, immigration, and energy policy, while still addressing the concerns of the left on key issues like climate change and student debt forgiveness. This strategy is likely a response to the expectation that Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee in 2024, and that the Democratic base will turn out to support Biden in that scenario. Biden's approach reflects his long-term political experience and his understanding of the importance of appealing to swing voters in key districts and states. However, there is a generational divide within the Democratic Party, with younger members more inclined to embrace progressive policies despite Republican attacks. Biden's pragmatic approach reflects his belief that such attacks are not inevitable and that it's important to address the concerns of moderate voters while keeping the progressive base engaged.

    • Politics is about substance, not labels or narrativesBoth parties should focus on voter concerns, not media rhetoric. Substance matters in policy debates, whether on crime legislation or abortion pills.

      Politics is not just about labels or narratives, but substance matters. Both Democrats and Republicans need to focus on addressing the concerns of voters, rather than being swayed by the rhetoric of media outlets like Fox News. The recent debates over crime legislation and abortion pills are examples of this. In the case of the abortion pill, the Washington Post took a stance against the coercive use of state power against Walgreens for complying with local laws, highlighting the unfairness and abuse of power in the situation. Similarly, the rejection of crime legislation should not be dismissed as mere political posturing, but rather an acknowledgement of the importance of addressing the substance of the issues at hand.

    • Power Struggle Between Governors Threatens Civil LibertiesGovernors DeSantis and Newsom's power struggle risks pushing the country towards a less free society by encouraging further government interference in private matters, creating a dangerous ratcheting effect.

      The ongoing power struggle between governors Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom, each trying to label themselves as the "freedom governor," has led to a dangerous escalation of government interference in private matters. Instead of championing true freedom, both leaders have used the power of their states to impose their beliefs, creating a ratcheting effect that encourages further aggression. This trend, rewarded politically, risks pushing the country towards a less free society. Private businesses are caught in the middle, facing penalties for complying with one state's laws while adhering to another's. The situation could escalate into a cold civil war, with each state acting as a bully, disregarding the consequences for civil liberties. The American people must reject this trend before it becomes irreversible. The ERIC database, an example of states prioritizing their interests over cooperation, epitomizes this problem.

    • Sharing voter data to prevent double voting and maintain accurate rolls through ERICConspiracy theories and political polarization have led five states to withdraw from ERIC, potentially making it harder to prevent voter fraud and increasing fragmentation in the US

      The Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) was a consortium of states working together to share voter registration data to prevent double voting and maintain accurate voter rolls. The system was effective and cost-effective, but it has faced opposition due to conspiracy theories spread by individuals like Cleta Mitchell and Mike Lindell. Five states, including Florida, have withdrawn from the program, which could make it harder to prevent voter fraud and further fragment the nation. Ron DeSantis' decision to withdraw Florida from ERIC was criticized as an act of following Trump's lead rather than leading himself. The conversation also touched upon the importance of bold leadership and the potential consequences of escalating political polarization.

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