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    Joanna Cherry: free speech, independence, the SNP

    enMay 03, 2023

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      LinkedIn is an essential platform for small businesses looking to hire professionals. It's where you can find candidates who aren't actively searching for new jobs but might be open to the right opportunity. With over 70% of LinkedIn users not visiting other leading job sites in a given month, it's important to cast a wide net and start your search in the right place. Additionally, this episode featured discussions on the importance of customer focus in business, whether it's Burrows Furniture ensuring their products meet customer needs or Blue Nile allowing customers to design custom rings online. Finally, the podcast touched on the Scottish Conservative Party Conference and the recurring issue of London leaders dictating decisions to Scottish Tories. Overall, the episode emphasized the importance of listening to customers, being adaptable, and leading effectively.

    • UK Tory party's press access limits sparks controversy at Scottish conferenceThe UK Tory party's attempt to limit press access at the Scottish Tory Conference led to a standoff, highlighting the importance of communication and planning, and the impact of London's actions on the Scottish Tory party.

      The Scottish media and the UK Tory party had a contentious encounter during Rishi Sunak's press conference at the Scottish Tory Conference. The UK Tory party's attempt to limit access to six friendly newspapers led to a standoff between the press and the prime minister. The journalists united and refused to speak to Sunak until access was granted to all. The incident highlights the importance of communication and planning, as well as the impact of London's actions on the Scottish Tory party. The UK Tory party's behavior was criticized by Scottish Tory leaders and opposition parties, who saw it as a representation of a closed-off and self-serving government. This incident is not new, and it underscores the challenge for the Scottish Tory party to focus on local issues while serving as the first line of defense for London's actions.

    • UK-Scotland Tensions over DevolutionThe UK government's assertiveness in rolling back devolved powers from Scotland is seen as unnecessary and potentially damaging, highlighting ongoing tensions between the two over devolution and Scotland's independence on the world stage.

      The Scottish women's whiskey industry interview with Alastair Jack was the focus, but the broader discussion touched on the ongoing debate around devolution and the role of the UK government. David Frost, a former Conservative cabinet minister, recently wrote an opinion piece urging the UK government to be more assertive in rolling back devolved powers from Scotland. This intervention was seen as unnecessary and potentially damaging to the Conservative Party's efforts to move past their perceived opposition to devolution since its inception. The SNP, currently facing difficulties, used this as an opportunity to remind the public of past Conservative actions and to emphasize the support for devolution among the Scottish people. The debate highlights the ongoing tension between the UK government and Scotland over devolved powers and the role of an independent Scotland on the world stage.

    • David Frost's anti-devolution stance and the SNP's focus on defending devolutionFrost's criticism of devolution and the SNP may resonate with some Conservatives, but it's not a winning strategy for the party. The SNP's defense of devolution could annoy the public, but recognizing devolution's limitations and focusing on a clear path to independence is key.

      David Frost's intervention in Scottish politics, criticizing devolution and the Scottish National Party (SNP), may resonate with some members of the Conservative Party but is not a winning strategy. The SNP's current focus on defending devolution instead of addressing its shortcomings could be a mistake, as it may annoy the public with too much constitutional litigation. Frost's comments, while toxic for elected politicians, were likely welcomed by some party members due to their anti-devolution stance. However, this strategy is not a recipe for success and may even hinder the Conservative Party's cause. The SNP's strategy for independence remains unclear, but it is important for the party to recognize the limitations of devolution and focus on a more effective path to independence.

    • SNP should focus on building a stronger case for Scottish independenceSNP should shift its strategy from relying on Section 30 orders to making a compelling case for Scottish independence based on historical and constitutional grounds.

      The Scottish National Party (SNP) could have approached the issue of Scottish independence more effectively by focusing on building a stronger case and avoiding constant requests for Section 30 orders, which have been met with rejection. Instead, they should frame the debate in a way that emphasizes the historical context and constitutional precedent of Scottish independence, rather than relying on a relatively new provision related to devolution. The failure of the previous administration to build a stronger case for independence and the constant focus on Section 30 orders have helped to plant the idea in the minds of voters in the United Kingdom and foreign governments that Scottish independence cannot be legitimate without another Section 30 referendum. It is crucial for the SNP to shift its strategy and focus on making a compelling case for independence based on historical and constitutional grounds.

    • SNP's Challenges to Achieving Scottish IndependenceThe SNP must learn from past mistakes, engage in democratic debates, and provide persuasive answers to voters' concerns to build a strong case for Scottish independence, focusing on strategic, inclusive, and open discussions on economic and EU membership questions.

      The Scottish National Party (SNP) has faced significant challenges in achieving independence due to strategic errors, undemocratic practices, and a lack of clear and compelling answers to voters' concerns. The Edinburgh Agreement, while historic, set unrealistic expectations for a quick win. The party's focus on process rather than persuasion and the suppression of alternative strategies have hindered progress. The need for a more strategic, inclusive, and open discussion on the path to independence, including addressing economic and EU membership questions, is crucial. The SNP must learn from past mistakes, engage in democratic debates, and provide persuasive answers to voters' concerns to build a strong case for independence.

    • Regaining competence crucial for Scottish independenceSNP gov't needs to improve handling of domestic policies in areas like devolution, health, and education to make a strong case for Scottish independence. A reset in approach is necessary to address voters' concerns and win over past opponents.

      The competence of a government is crucial for achieving independence and economic success. The speaker emphasized that the SNP government in Scotland needs to regain its competence in handling domestic policies, particularly in areas like devolution, health, and education, before making a strong case for independence. The speaker also criticized some of the recent policies implemented by the government, which were perceived as poorly thought out and executed. The speaker suggested that a reset in the party's approach to domestic policy is necessary to address voters' concerns and win over those who voted against independence in the past. The speaker acknowledged that it is challenging for a government to look fresh and new after being in power for a long time but emphasized that voters care about the impact of domestic policies on their lives.

    • SNP's Intellectual Stagnation Hinders Policy MakingThe SNP must prioritize evidence-based policy making, encourage intellectual debate, and collaborate with experts to develop effective policies for Scotland's future.

      The Scottish National Party (SNP) needs to shift its focus from ideology-based policy making to evidence-based policy making. The intellectual stagnation within the party has hindered the development of meaningful policies to address pressing domestic issues and answer the questions surrounding Scottish independence. This issue is linked to the lack of intellectual debate within the party, which has been discouraged for years. However, there are think tanks, like Common Real, and individuals, such as Michelle Thompson, Ivan McKee, and Kate Forbes, who are working to bring forward new ideas and policies. The current leadership, represented by Humza Yousaf, is open to this collaboration. It's crucial for the SNP to encourage intellectual discourse and rely on experts to develop well-thought-out policies. The speaker, who has a long history with the SNP, acknowledges the challenges of remaining a member but is determined to contribute to the party's future, which she hopes will involve a more open and inclusive leadership style.

    • Unexpected discrimination and unwelcome feelingsDespite popular establishments striving for inclusivity, discrimination and unwelcome feelings can still occur unexpectedly. Everyone deserves to feel welcome and comfortable.

      Discrimination and unwelcome feelings can come from unexpected places, even in popular establishments. Joanna Lumley shared her experience of being dropped from an event at The Stand comedy club due to staff discomfort, which she believes is linked to false allegations of transphobia. This incident disrupted her busy schedule, which included important meetings with the prime minister and foreign office representatives. Meanwhile, Burro Furniture offers comfort and inclusivity through their timeless designs and thoughtful construction, with up to 25% off their outdoor collection for Memorial Day. Bombas provides essential comfort for those in need with their soft, plush clothing. It's important to remember that everyone deserves to feel welcome and comfortable, regardless of the circumstances.

    • The toxic debate over trans rights in ScotlandA citizens' assembly could provide a solution to the polarized and controversial issue of trans rights in Scotland by allowing for deliberation and a report to parliament, ensuring human rights and equality law for all.

      The ongoing debate surrounding trans rights and gender identity in Scotland has become highly polarized and toxic, with both sides holding strong views. The Equality Act in the UK guarantees equal rights for trans people, including self-identification under the protected characteristic of gender reassignment. However, some individuals, like the speaker, hold gender critical views and believe that self-identification should come with safeguards. The issue has been shrouded in controversy, with some venues refusing to host certain performers due to their views. The Scottish government has pursued a Section 35 order to prevent the performance of a specific individual, but it remains to be seen if this will be successful. The speaker suggests that a citizens' assembly, where a cross-section of society can deliberate and present a report to parliament, could be a potential solution to the issue. This approach would allow for proper consideration of human rights and equality law for all involved.

    • Politician's Perspective on Gender Identity and Self-IdentificationPolitician expresses concerns over gender self-identification's impact on women, girls, and lack of parental involvement in children's decisions. Believes democratic process is being undermined.

      The current debate surrounding gender identity and self-identification has significant implications for various groups, particularly lesbians, gay men, and bisexual people. The speaker, a politician, shared her personal experiences of facing discrimination and backlash for speaking out against issues related to gender self-identification and its impact on women and girls. She also highlighted concerns regarding the ease with which young children are encouraged to choose their gender and the lack of parental involvement or knowledge in these decisions. The speaker believes that the notion of "best practice" being used to justify these changes is undemocratic and replaces what is currently lawful. She urges for transparency and open dialogue about these issues, as many people are not fully aware of the implications and concerns surrounding gender self-identification, particularly in educational settings.

    • The debate over free speech and trans rights in comedy clubs goes beyond the trans issue itselfPolitical leaders should encourage open dialogue and respect diverse perspectives to avoid silencing unpopular opinions, potentially leading to a dangerous society where only certain views are accepted.

      The ongoing debate surrounding free speech and trans rights in comedy clubs is not just about the trans debate itself, but also about the broader issue of defining free speech based on what those in power believe. Joanna Cherry, an MP, emphasized that both sides of the argument should be heard, as they are not illegal and represent a mainstream viewpoint. She warned against silencing opinions that are not politically correct or fashionable, which could lead to dangerous territory where only certain views are accepted. The toxicity surrounding this issue is a concern for many, including Cherry, who expressed sympathy for those who are hesitant to speak out due to potential abuse. The responsibility of political leaders to address this division and find a compromise was also discussed, as seen in the case of Kate Forbes during the SNP leadership contest. Overall, the conversation underscored the importance of fostering open dialogue and respecting diverse perspectives in a democratic society.

    • Respecting diverse beliefs and opinionsRecognize and respect the complexity and diversity of people's beliefs and opinions, even if they differ significantly from our own. Everyone should have the right to express their views without fear of being ostracized or excluded.

      It's important to recognize and respect the complexity and diversity of people's beliefs and opinions, even if they differ significantly from our own. The political discourse in many countries, including the UK, has become overly simplified and polarized, with those holding minority views often facing criticism or even being labeled as unacceptable. However, it's crucial to remember that having a different perspective is not a bad thing, and everyone should have the right to express their views without fear of being ostracized or excluded. This includes politicians, who must navigate the gray area of politics and find ways to engage with people on both sides of the debate. As Jeff noted, there are legitimate minority views that may not align with the majority or be popular, but they are still valid and should be respected. In the end, democracy thrives on the ability to respectfully engage with opposing viewpoints and find common ground, rather than shutting down those who disagree.

    • Discussing unexpected compromises and strategic changes in Scottish politicsUnexpected compromises and strategic changes can lead to progress in contentious political issues, as demonstrated by Joanna Cherry's approach to Section 35 orders and Hamza Yousuf's adjustments to Scottish government policies.

      Progress on contentious issues can only be made through open debate and compromise, even when it comes from unexpected sources. This was discussed in relation to Joanna Cherry, an elected parliamentarian, and the ongoing debate surrounding the use of Section 35 orders. Additionally, Hamza Yousuf, the First Minister of Scotland, is taking stances that differ from his predecessor, Nicola Sturgeon, and is making strategic changes to government policies, such as pausing the rollout of universal free school meals, to improve the public's perception of independence and manage budget constraints. These shifts indicate a more thoughtful and strategic approach to governance.

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