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    • Managing a Marketplace: Balancing User Needs and Creating ValueConstantly managing and balancing user needs in a marketplace is crucial. Recognizing the value generated for winners and the impact on losers can guide decision-making and resource allocation.

      Managing a marketplace is like playing a game of whack-a-mole. The example shared by Ramesh Johari illustrates this concept. When they addressed the supply side's bad experience by creating custom features, the metrics improved, but then the experience for the existing users on the other side worsened. This pattern continued as they tried to balance the needs of different user groups. Marketplaces require constant attention and inventory management, as changes can create winners and losers. The key is to recognize whether the winners created are more valuable to the business than the losers. This understanding can guide the allocation of resources and decision-making. Building a thriving marketplace requires strategic management and a deep understanding of user dynamics and data science methods.

    • Removing Friction and Optimizing User Experience through Data in Marketplace PlatformsSuccessful marketplace platforms like Airbnb and Uber utilize data to eliminate transaction costs, connect users, and provide a seamless experience, highlighting the importance of data in building and maintaining a thriving marketplace business.

      Marketplaces like Airbnb and Uber are not just selling rooms or rides, but they are actually selling the removal of friction in finding these services. These platforms are taking away the transaction costs and market failures that exist in traditional markets. They connect buyers and sellers, hosts and guests, drivers and riders, and provide a seamless experience by eliminating the constraints and uncertainties that would otherwise hinder these transactions. The success of these marketplace businesses relies heavily on data and experimentation. By analyzing and utilizing data, these platforms can effectively match supply with demand and optimize the overall user experience. Therefore, data plays an integral role in building and maintaining a successful marketplace business.

    • The Role of Data Science in Marketplaces: Removing Frictions and Enhancing EfficiencyData science is essential for marketplaces as it facilitates efficient matching of buyers and sellers, evaluation of potential partners, and continuous learning through rating systems and feedback.

      The fundamental value proposition of a marketplace is the ability to remove transaction costs and make money by connecting buyers and sellers. This concept is often misunderstood by entrepreneurs entering the marketplace space. Data science plays a vital role in marketplaces, allowing for the removal of frictions and the seamless functioning of the platform. There are three key aspects in the data science of marketplaces: finding matches between buyers and sellers, making the match by evaluating potential partners, and learning from the matches through rating systems and feedback. These three problems exist across all marketplaces and rely on algorithms and data science for their solutions. Understanding these key elements is crucial for the success of a marketplace business.

    • The Evolution of a Marketplace BusinessStart by addressing a specific friction point and building trust before expanding your marketplace concept. Adapt and evolve your value proposition as your business grows.

      When starting a marketplace business, it is crucial to focus on the value proposition in the early stages before achieving scale and liquidity on both sides. Many entrepreneurs make the mistake of thinking too much about the marketplace concept before actually becoming a marketplace. Urban Sitter's success story demonstrates this lesson well. They initially addressed the friction of not being able to pay babysitters with credit cards, which allowed them to gain liquidity and build trust through Facebook networks. Once they had this initial traction, they could shift their monetization model to focus on finding potential babysitters instead of just solving the payment friction. The key here is to understand that a marketplace business doesn't begin as a fully functional marketplace, but rather evolves and adapts its value proposition as it grows.

    • Resolving trust issues in remote marketplacesBuilding trust is essential for marketplace success, and founders should carefully consider their business model's long-term effects to maintain trust and avoid disintermediation.

      Building a marketplace requires resolving trust issues at a remote scale. The initial value proposition of platforms like ODesk was to provide tools for workers to verify their work and hours, creating a sense of trust between workers and employers. However, marketplace founders face similar problems as any startup, such as growth challenges. It's essential to consider that every entrepreneur is essentially a marketplace founder, as transactions increasingly move online. This means that any founder can choose to build a platform and become a marketplace. Additionally, founders should avoid overcommitting their future and carefully consider the long-term effects of their business model. For example, charging a constant fraction of all transactions may lead to disintermediation as relationships between workers and employers become more established and trust is built.

    • The importance of understanding the social contract in marketplace businessesTo succeed, marketplace founders must navigate changes carefully, prioritize user satisfaction, and focus on creating a balanced and sustainable platform for all parties involved.

      Marketplace businesses need to consider the impact of disintermediation and the changing expectations of their users. Platforms like Thumbtack and eBay have faced challenges when introducing new fees or changing their business models, resulting in backlash from their seller communities. The key is to understand the existing social contract that has been developed between the platform and its users, especially those who have built their livelihoods on the platform. While expanding the business and creating new opportunities is important, it is equally crucial to maintain and strengthen the social contract with users. This can be achieved by addressing pain points, like Substack did by helping writers drive demand and increasing their revenue. Marketplace founders should focus on reducing friction and ensuring scale liquidity on both sides of the platform to build a sustainable and successful business.

    • The Importance of Scale Liquidity for a MarketplaceAchieving a balanced number of buyers and sellers is crucial for a successful marketplace. Focus on scaling one side of the business before considering alternative models. Be humble until both sides have necessary scaling.

      Scale liquidity is crucial for a marketplace to thrive. Having a balanced number of buyers and sellers is the key to being a successful marketplace. Without both, you can't truly call yourself a marketplace. Once you have achieved this balance, you have the option to focus on the side that is performing well and further grow it. However, if you lack liquidity on either side, don't worry about being a marketplace yet. Instead, concentrate on scaling one side of the business. It is important to let go of ego and be humble about your marketplace vision until you have the necessary scaling on both sides. Additionally, there may be alternative business models to consider, such as hiring employees instead of relying solely on a marketplace approach, depending on the specific frictions and dynamics of your market.

    • The Importance of Labor Control and Curated Relationships in Marketplace SuccessLabor control and curated relationships are crucial for marketplace success as shown by examples like Stitch Fix. Additionally, data plays a significant role in optimizing marketplaces and making informed decisions.

      Having tightly controlled labor and curating the relationship between service providers and consumers is crucial for marketplace success. This can be seen in examples like Stitch Fix, where the personalized experience with stylists creates a magical connection. Similarly, in healthcare platforms, it's essential to have curated matches for services like physical therapy, rather than random pairings each time. While this doesn't necessarily mean full employment, it highlights the importance of carefully considering the nature of labor pool curation. Additionally, data plays a significant role in optimizing marketplaces. Depending on the context, data scientists can focus on pricing or search algorithms to improve efficiency. However, a more philosophical point is that data scientists primarily work on building machine learning models to predict outcomes. This emphasizes the value of data in making informed decisions and driving marketplace success.

    • The importance of considering differences in outcomes and the critical role of humans in making informed decisions based on data.While algorithms can predict outcomes based on patterns, humans need to interpret the data and use their judgment to make optimal decisions that go beyond predictions.

      While algorithms can predict outcomes based on patterns in past data, making good decisions requires considering the differences in those outcomes. When it comes to hiring, simply ranking applicants based on their likelihood of being hired may not lead to optimal decisions. Similarly, in marketing, sending promotions to customers with the highest predicted lifetime value may not result in the desired increase in value for the platform. Instead, it is important to focus on the difference in value that can be attributed to a specific action, such as sending a promotion. This highlights the critical role of humans in interpreting data and using their judgment to make informed decisions that go beyond predictions based on patterns.

    • Correlation vs. Causation in Data Science Decision-MakingData scientists should prioritize understanding causation and its impact on business decisions, rather than solely focusing on predicting correlations. Their goal is to help the business make better decisions using data.

      When it comes to data science and making decisions, understanding the difference between correlation and causation is crucial. While machine learning models focus on predicting correlations, making decisions requires thinking about causation and understanding the impact on the business. Data scientists should always keep in mind that their goal is to help the business make decisions and not just focus on predictions. For example, when ranking listings on a marketplace like Airbnb, it's important to evaluate which algorithm leads to more bookings and revenue, rather than just comparing their ability to predict past choices. Similarly, in hiring, the important question is to evaluate the quality of the match made, not just the predictive ability of the algorithm. Ultimately, using data to help the business make better decisions is the key role of data scientists.

    • Balancing Experiments and New Opportunities for GrowthBy finding a balance between running experiments and exploring new opportunities, businesses can avoid focusing solely on small improvements and instead uncover big opportunities for growth.

      While experiments are essential for making good decisions and driving growth, it is important to strike a balance between running experiments and exploring new opportunities. Experiments can lead to micro-optimization, focusing on small improvements and missing out on larger potential unlocks. It is crucial to understand that experimentation is not just about running tests, but also about the choices made within the organizational structure, such as what designs to test and how long to run experiments. Often, there is a tendency to be risk-averse and opt for incremental changes, and experiments may be run for longer than necessary. Therefore, businesses should be mindful of these factors and strive for a balance between experimentation and exploration to uncover big opportunities.

    • Shifting focus towards learning for innovation and growth.Emphasizing the value of learning from experiments, even if they fail, can foster innovation and create a culture of adaptability in businesses.

      Companies often have incentive structures that prioritize short-term wins over long-term learning. This can create a culture where experimentation is focused on incremental improvements instead of taking risks and exploring new ideas. The key is to shift the focus from winners and losers to the value of learning. By understanding that even "failed" experiments can provide valuable insights and knowledge, organizations can create an environment that encourages innovation and growth. It's important to recognize that not all experiments need to be run for extended periods, and that trying out riskier ideas can lead to significant breakthroughs. By redefining success in terms of learning rather than immediate wins, businesses can foster a culture of experimentation and adaptability.

    • The limitations of data-driven decisionsData analysis is valuable, but it's important to consider context, previous knowledge, and intangible benefits when making decisions.

      Relying solely on data-driven decisions can be limiting and may not always capture the full picture. While data analysis and experiments are valuable tools, it's important to consider the broader context and factors that cannot be easily measured. Simply hitting statistical significance on an AB test does not mean that all previous knowledge and beliefs should be disregarded. It's essential to bring your understanding of the business and your beliefs about the impact of certain initiatives into the decision-making process. Additionally, not everything that improves the marketplace can be quantified or directly measured. Sometimes, the value lies in the intangible benefits that enhance the overall user experience and make the marketplace better.

    • Balancing Winners and Losers in Marketplace ManagementManaging marketplaces requires considering the potential positive and negative impacts of changes and reallocations, setting objective metrics, and fostering a culture of learning and experimentation.

      Managing marketplaces involves balancing winners and losers. Changes and reallocations in marketplace platforms can create both positive and negative impacts for users. While it may be tempting to focus solely on expanding the pie for everyone, it's important to recognize that some users may be negatively affected by feature changes. This constraint is inherent to how marketplaces operate. To navigate this challenge, marketplace companies should consider setting objective metrics that capture the trade-offs involved. Additionally, creating a culture of learning and experimentation can help shift the focus from purely measuring impact to valuing continuous learning. Finding the right balance between recognizing success and driving impact is crucial in managing marketplace dynamics effectively.

    • Embracing creativity and strategy in data science and prioritizing learning for successful business change.Encourage data scientists to think beyond statistical results, involve them in creative and strategic aspects of business change, and prioritize learning for better future experiments and positive network effects.

      Data scientists should be expected to do more than just deliver statistically rigorous results. Leaders should encourage them to engage with the creative aspects of business change and the strategic aspects of business change by sharing what they are learning about the business. Culturally setting the norms that learning is part of the discourse is important. Additionally, in AB testing, it's crucial to take the past into account by building a prior belief before running an experiment. Bayesian AB testing, which connects past data with experimental data, can help reward people for contributing information and incorporate past learning into future experiments. This not only improves the analysis of future experiments but also generates positive network effects for the rest of the business. Overall, learning comes at a cost and should be valued accordingly.

    • The Cost of Learning and the Value of ExperimentationInvesting in experimentation is essential for acquiring knowledge and running a successful business, even though it may involve allocating resources to failed experiments.

      Experimentation and learning have a cost. The anecdote about the real estate platform's marketing manager highlights the importance of allocating samples to different options in order to determine what works best. In hindsight, it may seem obvious to divide the samples between control and treatment groups, but when faced with uncertainty, it is essential to invest in acquiring knowledge. However, our culture often emphasizes winners and losers, which can undermine the value of experimentation. By rewarding only the winners, we imply that time spent on failed experiments is wasted. This mindset hinders the education and understanding of the cost of learning. It is crucial to recognize that paying to learn is not only a cultural concept but also an essential aspect of running a successful business. The example of the real estate platform demonstrates the tangible cost of not implementing proper experimentation practices.

    • Overcoming Challenges in Designing Marketplace Rating SystemsSetting clear expectations and finding alternative rating methods are essential for marketplace success in order to combat rating inflation and protect the reputation and revenue of newcomers.

      Designing rating systems for marketplaces is a complex task with various challenges. One of the key challenges is rating inflation, where ratings tend to inflate over time due to reciprocity and norming effects. To address this issue, renorming the meaning of rating labels can be a helpful approach, such as setting the top rating to exceed expectations or comparing ratings to past experiences. Additionally, marketplace founders need to be cautious about the concept of averaging ratings, as it can have significant distributional consequences. Established businesses may not be affected by new negative ratings, but newcomers can suffer a detrimental impact on their reputation and revenue. Therefore, finding alternative ways to present ratings and mitigate the disadvantages of averaging is crucial for marketplace success.

    • Importance of fair rating systems and double blind reviewsDesigning fair rating systems, incorporating prior beliefs, implementing double blind reviews, and recognizing the value of absence of ratings can improve marketplaces while maintaining the importance of human perspective and decision-making.

      Designing fair rating systems and studying their social implications is crucial in marketplaces. The distributional fairness aspect of averaging ratings and incorporating a prior belief can give individuals a chance at getting work and opportunities. Additionally, implementing double blind reviews can increase review rates and provide more accurate feedback. Furthermore, the sound of silence, or the absence of ratings, holds valuable information that can predict performance. It's important to recognize that marketplaces are fascinating spaces with unique challenges, and being a marketplace founder requires a deep understanding of the problem being solved. Finally, it is a misconception to believe that AI and data science will completely automate the field, as a human perspective and decision-making are still essential in industry.

    • The importance of human involvement in the data science process amidst advancements in AI technology.Human expertise remains crucial in driving effective decision-making and evaluating outcomes in data science, with AI serving as a complementary tool rather than a replacement for humans.

      AI has expanded the possibilities and options for problem-solving, hypothesis testing, and experimentation. It has opened up a whole new frontier of explanations and ideas. However, this also means that the role of humans has become even more important in the data science process. With the abundance of tools and technologies, humans are needed to drive the process of identifying what truly matters and determining which hypotheses or ideas to focus on. The pressure is on humans to make effective decisions and evaluate the outcomes. Rather than looking for automated tools to replace human involvement, it is crucial to recognize the significance of human input in the productive loop of data science. AI should be seen as a complementary tool rather than a replacement for human expertise.

    • Embracing Time Constraints and Prioritizing for a Fulfilling LifeRecognizing the limited time we have allows us to prioritize what truly matters, making conscious choices and managing life's demands effectively for a fulfilling and impactful life.

      Recognizing the limited time we have on Earth and the never-ending influx of tasks can be liberating. Ramesh Johari suggests that stressing out about having too much to do is pointless because there will always be more to do. Instead, shifting our mindset towards prioritizing our time becomes crucial. By acknowledging the finite nature of time, we can focus on what truly matters and make conscious choices about where to direct our attention. Johari's book provides concrete rules of thumb to help manage this perspective, offering a valuable tool for navigating life's demands. Additionally, his interview question about envisioning the impact of success can broaden our vision and reveal different spheres that may be influenced by our actions.

    • The Importance of Slowing Down and Developing Mental Models in Today's Fast-paced SocietyBy taking the time to think deeply and develop mental models, we can make informed decisions, create successful outcomes, and understand the needs of our target audience in the tech industry.

      Slowing down and developing meaningful mental models is a virtue that is often overlooked in today's fast-paced society. Ramesh Johari emphasizes the importance of taking the time to think deeply about the structural features of the things we are building, whether it's in research projects, business strategies, or academia. By slowing down and developing these mental models, we can make more informed decisions and create more successful outcomes. This advice is especially relevant in the tech industry, where the obsession with speed can hinder the development of thoughtful and effective solutions. Slowing down allows us to truly understand the needs and preferences of our target audience and make more impactful decisions.

    • Stanford University: Fostering Innovation, Inclusivity, and Open-Mindedness in Higher EducationStanford University prioritizes substance over credentials, creating a diverse and welcoming community that encourages meaningful conversations and emphasizes the importance of data literacy for navigating the complexities of AI.

      Stanford University offers a unique and inclusive environment that focuses on substance rather than credentialing. The university's diverse range of strong programs in professional schools, engineering, humanities, and social sciences, combined with its welcoming culture and beautiful campus, create a thriving community where credentials are not the sole determining factor. This means that Stanford promotes a culture of open-mindedness and encourages individuals to engage in meaningful conversations and ideas. Additionally, the discussion highlights the importance of data literacy in today's world, emphasizing the need for individuals to educate themselves and become more proficient in understanding and utilizing data. By doing so, they can navigate the complexities of AI and contribute to a more informed and efficient society.

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    What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)

    What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)

    Rory Sutherland is widely regarded as one of the most influential (and most entertaining) thinkers in marketing and behavioral science. He’s the vice chairman of Ogilvy UK, the author of Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life, and the founder of Nudgestock, the world’s biggest festival of behavioral science and creativity. He champions thinking from first principles and using human psychology—what he calls “thinking psycho-logically”—over mere logic. In our conversation, we cover:

    • Why good products don’t always succeed, and bad ones don’t necessarily fail

    • Why less functionality can sometimes be more valuable

    • The importance of fame in building successful brands

    • The importance of timing in product success

    • The concept of “most advanced, yet acceptable”

    • Why metrics-driven workplaces can be demotivating

    • Lots of real-world case studies

    • Much more

    Note: We encountered some technical difficulties that led to less than ideal video quality for this episode, but the lessons from this conversation made it impossible for me to not publish it anyway. Thanks for your understanding and for bearing with the less-than-ideal video quality. 

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/what-most-people-miss-about-marketing

    Where to find Rory Sutherland:

    • X: https://x.com/rorysutherland

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rorysutherland

    • Book: Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life: https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Curious-Science-Creating-Business/dp/006238841X

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Rory’s background

    (02:37) The success and failure of products

    (04:08) Why the urge to appear serious can be a disaster in marketing

    (08:05) The role of distinctiveness in product design

    (12:29) The MAYA principle

    (15:50) How thinking irrationally can be advantageous

    (17:40) The fault of multiple-choice tests

    (21:31) Companies that have successfully implemented out-of-the-box thinking

    (30:31) “Psycho-logical” thinking

    (31:45) The hare and the dog metaphor

    (38:51) Marketing’s crucial role in product adoption

    (49:21) The quirks of Google Glass

    (55:44) Survivorship bias

    (56:09) Balancing rational ideas with irrational ideas

    (01:06:19) The rise and fall of tech innovations

    (01:09:54) Consistency, distinctiveness, and clarity

    (01:21:12) Considering psychological, technological, and economic factors in parallel

    (01:23:35) Where to find Rory

    Referenced:

    • Google Glass: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Glass

    • Meta Portal TV: https://www.meta.com/portal/products/portal-tv/

    • Rory’s quote in a LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brad-jackson-04766642_the-urge-to-appear-serious-is-a-disaster-activity-7093497742710210560-1LYN/

    • The MAYA Principle: Design for the Future, but Balance It with Your Users’ Present: https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/article/design-for-the-future-but-balance-it-with-your-users-present

    • Ogilvy: https://www.ogilvy.com/

    • MCI: https://www.mci.world/

    • Veuve Clicquot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veuve_Clicquot

    • Why do the French call the British ‘the roast beefs’?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2913151.stm

    The Killing on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-killing-f5da5c2d-4626-4ba9-bcf3-ff5f891771fb

    • Original The Killing on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017h7m1

    • The Mandarin Oriental, Hong Kong: https://www.mandarinoriental.com/en/hong-kong/victoria-harbour

    • SAT: https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat

    • The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test: https://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

    • What is the age of the captain?: https://www.icopilots.com/what-is-the-age-of-the-captain/

    • Octopus Energy: https://octopus.energy/

    • Kraken: https://octopusenergy.group/kraken-technologies

    • Toby Shannan: https://theorg.com/org/shopify/org-chart/toby-shannan

    • Dunbar’s number: Why we can only maintain 150 relationships: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191001-dunbars-number-why-we-can-only-maintain-150-relationships

    • AO: https://ao.com/

    • Zappos: https://www.zappos.com/

    • Joe Cano on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeycano/

    • John Ralston Saul’s website: https://www.johnralstonsaul.com/

    Voltaire’s Bastards: The Dictatorship of Reason in the West: https://www.amazon.com/Voltaires-Bastards-Dictatorship-Reason-West/dp/0679748199

    • Psycho-Logic: Why Too Much Logic Deters Magic: https://coffeeandjunk.com/psycho-logic/

    • Herbert Simon’s Decision-Making Approach: https://bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/2438/4995/1/Fulltext.pdf

    • Robert Trivers’s website: https://roberttrivers.com/Welcome.html

    • Crazy Ivan: https://jollycontrarian.com/index.php?title=Crazy_Ivan

    • The Joys of Being a Late Tech Adopter: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/28/technology/personaltech/joys-late-tech-adopter.html

    • Jean-Claude Van Damme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Van_Damme

    • Tim Berners-Lee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

    • Edward Jenner and the history of smallpox and vaccination: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1200696/

    • The real story behind penicillin: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/the-real-story-behind-the-worlds-first-antibiotic

    • What Are Japanese Toilets?: https://www.bigbathroomshop.co.uk/info/blog/japanese-toilets/

    • reMarkable: https://remarkable.com/

    • Chumby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumby

    • Survivorship bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

    • Jony Ive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive

    • Marc Newson’s website: https://marc-newson.com/

    • Designing Men: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2013/11/jony-ive-marc-newson-design-auction

    • Qantas A330: https://marc-newson.com/qantas-a330/

    • Herodotus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus

    • Big Decision? Consider It Both Drunk and Sober: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chunkamui/2016/03/22/wine-and-sleep-make-for-better-decisions/?sh=5c97fdc524b1

    • How Henry Ford and Thomas Edison killed the electric car: https://www.speakev.com/threads/how-henry-ford-and-thomas-edison-killed-the-electric-car.4270/

    • Watch Jay Leno get nostalgic and swoon over this 1909 EV: https://thenextweb.com/news/jay-leno-talk-about-electric-car-1909-baker

    Jay Leno’s Garage: https://www.youtube.com/@jaylenosgarage

    • Nudgestock: https://nudgestock.com/

    • Akio Morita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akio_Morita

    • Don Norman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnorman/

    • What Makes Tesla’s Business Model Different: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/072115/what-makes-teslas-business-model-different.asp

    • Monica Lewinsky on X: https://x.com/MonicaLewinsky

    Blindsight: The (Mostly) Hidden Ways Marketing Reshapes Our Brains: azon.com/Blindsight-Mostly-Hidden-Marketing-Reshapes-ebook/dp/B07ZKZ5DWF

    Branding That Means Business: https://www.amazon.com/Branding-that-Means-Business-Economist-ebook/dp/B09QBCCH9N

    • PwC: https://www.pwc.com

    • Ryanair: https://www.ryanair.com

    • British Airways: https://www.britishairways.com/

    • Wrigley’s began as a soap business: know when to pivot: https://theamericangenius.com/entrepreneur/wrigleys-began-as-soap-know-when-to-pivot/

    Transport for Humans: https://www.amazon.com/Transport-Humans-Perspectives-Pete-Dyson/dp/1913019357

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    Building a world-class data org | Jessica Lachs (VP of Analytics and Data Science at DoorDash)

    Building a world-class data org | Jessica Lachs (VP of Analytics and Data Science at DoorDash)

    Jessica Lachs is the global head of analytics and data science at DoorDash, where she’s built one of the largest and most respected data organizations in tech. In her more than 10 years at DoorDash, she has served as the first general manager, responsible for launching new markets; the head of business ops and analytics; and the VP of analytics and data science. Previously, Jessica founded GiftSimple, a social gifting startup, and started her career at Lehman Brothers as an investment banking analyst. In our conversation, she shares:

    • How to structure and scale a high-impact analytics organization

    • Centralized vs. decentralized data teams

    • How to pick the right metric and aligning incentives

    • Advice for data people on how and when to push back

    • Lessons learned from building a global data team

    • How to foster a culture of extreme ownership

    • The role of AI in improving analytics team productivity

    • Advice for aspiring data leaders without formal training

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-a-world-class-data-org-jessica-lachs

    Where to find Jessica Lachs:

    • X: https://x.com/jesslachs

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-lachs/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jessica’s background

    (04:59) Centralized vs. embedded analytics teams

    (10:52) The benefits of a centralized analytics team

    (15:10) Balancing proactive and reactive work

    (20:45) Advice on how to push back effectively

    (24:20) Hiring for curiosity and problem solving

    (28:57) Coming from a non-traditional background

    (34:40) The early days and culture at DoorDash

    (40:39) Encouraging cross-functional roles

    (44:39) Defining effective metrics

    (46:30) Simplifying metrics for better outcomes

    (55:28) Focusing on edge cases and fail states

    (01:00:12) Managing a global data organization

    (01:02:31) Leveraging AI for productivity

    (01:05:25) Building diverse and skilled data teams

    (01:08:40) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence

    • Riley Newman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rileynewman/

    • Tony Xu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/xutony/

    • Imposter Syndrome: Why You May Feel Like a Fraud: https://www.verywellmind.com/imposter-syndrome-and-social-anxiety-disorder-4156469

    • Stanley Tang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleytang/

    • Andy Fang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fangsterr/

    • Evan Moore on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmoore/

    • How WeDash became the flagship employee program for DoorDash: https://careers.doordash.com/blog/wedash-doordash-employee-program-how-does-it-work

    • Leading with empathy | Keith Yandell (DoorDash, Uber): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/leading-with-empathy-keith-yandell

    The Rose Code: https://www.amazon.com/Rose-Code-Novel-Kate-Quinn/dp/006305941X

    • Libby app: https://libbyapp.com/

    The West Wing on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/West-Wing-Complete-First-Season/dp/B000KZPG04

    Alias on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Alias-Season-1/dp/B00748O13S

    • Joseon sunscreens: https://beautyofjoseon.com/

    • Innisfree sunscreens: https://us.innisfree.com/

    • John Steinbeck quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/john_steinbeck_103825

    • Vanessa Roberts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-roberts-b8a509a/

    • Tia Sherringham on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiasherringham/

    • Elizabeth Jarvis-Shean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-jarvis-shean-141a7966/

    • My Journey (Part 1): I have a job that I would never be hired for: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jessica-lachs_anniversary-datascience-finance-activity-7216912300056727553-mEv6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

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    Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead)

    Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead)

    Jeff Weinstein is a product lead at Stripe, where he helped grow their payment APIs to hundreds of billions in volume and transformed the way founders start companies into a few simple clicks with Atlas. Prior to Stripe, Jeff led several startups and sold companies to Groupon and Box. He’s known for his customer obsession, craft, quality, and building beloved products businesses rely on. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • The power of customer obsession and how to operationalize it in the product development process

    • How to pick the right metrics and use them to drive impact

    • Techniques for getting things done at big companies

    • A group practice Jeff started to uplevel product craft, called Study Group

    • The story behind Stripe Atlas and its mission to increase entrepreneurship globally

    • Lessons from working with the founders of Stripe

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/creating-a-culture-of-excellence

    Where to find Jeff Weinstein:

    • X: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffwweinstein/

    • Email: jweinstein@gmail.com

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jeff’s background 

    (10:16)  The “go, go, go ASAP + optimistic, long-term compounding” approach

    (15:38) The importance of craft and quality

    (24:15) Effective customer communication strategies

    (28:57) The importance of speed in customer interactions 

    (33:19) Narrowing your focus

    (36:53) Why you should pay attention only to paying-customer feedback

    (40:24) Practicing silence when communicating 

    (45:33) The role of metrics in product success

    (54:08) Empowering teams with a single metric

    (58:23) Picking the right metric for your audience

    (01:05:10) The importance of metric hygiene

    (01:11:33) How Stripe uses “study groups” for product improvement

    (01:37:20) Stripe’s Atlas: simplifying company formation

    (01:50:38) Automation and operational efficiency

    (01:55:13) Diversity and team building

    (02:03:09) Building new products within a large company

    (02:21:10) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Atlas: https://stripe.com/atlas

    • Stripe: https://stripe.com/

    • SQL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL

    • GitHub: https://github.com/

    • Linear: https://linear.app/

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Jeff’s tweet about Stripe’s bug-finder program: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein/status/1777487507934040300

    • The “Collison installation”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400504

    • How we use friction logs to improve products at Stripe: https://dev.to/stripe/how-we-use-friction-logs-to-improve-products-at-stripe-i6p

    • Fidelity: https://www.fidelity.com/

    • 83(b) election: https://docs.stripe.com/atlas/83b-election

    • Jeff’s tweet about Atlas’s NPS score: https://x.com/jeff_weinstein/status/1788644576330469638

    • What is a Delaware corporation? Here’s what makes this state so attractive to businesses: https://stripe.com/resources/more/what-is-a-delaware-corporation

    • Incorporating in Delaware explained: Why it’s such a popular option for businesses: https://stripe.com/resources/more/incorporating-in-delaware-explained

    • 7 of Pixar’s Best Storyboard Examples and the Stories Behind Them: https://boords.com/blog/7-of-pixars-best-storyboard-examples-and-the-stories-behind-them

    • Alex Kehayias on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexkehayias/

    • Patrick McKenzie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmckenzie/

    • AngelList: https://www.angellist.com/

    • Dan Hightower on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhighto/

    • Stripe Atlas perks partners: https://support.stripe.com/questions/stripe-atlas-perks-partners

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    High Output Management: https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove/dp/0679762884

    Orbiting the Giant Hairball: A Corporate Fool’s Guide to Surviving with Grace: https://www.amazon.com/Orbiting-Giant-Hairball-Corporate-Surviving/dp/0670879835

    7 Powers: The Foundations of Business Strategy: https://www.amazon.com/7-Powers-Foundations-Business-Strategy/dp/0998116319

    • Business strategy with Hamilton Helmer (author of 7 Powers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/business-strategy-with-hamilton-helmer

    • Box: https://www.box.com/

    • Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc

    How to with John Wilson on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/how-to-with-john-wilson

    The Quiet Girl on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-quiet-girl-b50a4b8e-d3ff-4635-b806-5e7dbd292ca4

    • Raycast: https://www.raycast.com/

    • Quicksilver: https://qsapp.com/

    • Alfred: https://www.alfredapp.com/help/workflows/automations/

    • CleanShot: https://cleanshot.com/

    • John Collison on X: https://x.com/collision

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    Pattern Breakers: How to find a breakthrough startup idea | Mike Maples, Jr. (Founding Partner at Floodgate, ex-Product at Silicon Graphics)

    Pattern Breakers: How to find a breakthrough startup idea | Mike Maples, Jr. (Founding Partner at Floodgate, ex-Product at Silicon Graphics)

    Mike Maples, Jr. is a legendary early-stage startup investor and a co-founder and partner at Floodgate. He’s made early bets on transformative companies like Twitter, Lyft, Twitch, Okta, Rappi, and Applied Intuition and is one of the pioneers of seed-stage investing as a category. He’s been on the Forbes Midas List eight times and enjoys sharing the lessons he’s learned from his years studying iconic companies. In his new book, Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future, co-authored with Peter Ziebelman, he discusses what he’s found separates startups and founders that break through and change the world from those that don’t. After spending years reviewing the notes and decks from the thousands of startups he’s known over the past two decades, he’s uncovered three ways that breakthrough founders think and act differently. In our conversation, Mike talks about:

    • The three elements of breakthrough startup ideas

    • Why you need to both think and act differently

    • How to avoid the “comparison trap” and “conformity trap”

    • The importance of movements, storytelling, and healthy disagreeableness in startup success

    • How to apply pattern-breaking principles within large companies

    • Mike’s one piece of advice for founders

    • Much more

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    Where to find Mike Maples, Jr.:

    • X: https://x.com/m2jr

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maples/

    • Substack: https://greatness.substack.com/

    • Website: https://www.floodgate.com/

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Mike’s background

    (03:10) The inspiration behind Pattern Breakers

    (08:09) Uncovering startup insights

    (11:37) A quick summary of Pattern Breakers

    (13:52) Coming up with an idea

    (15:30) Inflections

    (17:09) Examples of inflections

    (28:10) Insights

    (36:58) The power of surprises

    (47:36) Founder-future fit

    (55:33) Advice for aspiring founders

    (56:41) Living in the future: valid opinions

    (55:34) Case study: Maddie Hall and Living Carbon

    (58:40) Identifying lighthouse customers

    (01:00:53) The importance of desperation in customer needs

    (01:03:57) Creating movements and storytelling

    (01:24:22) The role of disagreeableness in startups

    (01:34:42) Applying these principles within a company

    (01:40:43) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future: https://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Breakers-Start-Ups-Change-Future/dp/1541704355

    • Justin.tv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin.tv

    • Airbnb’s CEO says a $40 cereal box changed the course of the multibillion-dollar company: https://fortune.com/2023/04/19/airbnb-ceo-cereal-box-investors-changed-everything-billion-dollar-company/

    • Brian Chesky’s new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach

    • The Unconventional Exit: How Justin Kan Sold His First Startup on eBay: https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/the-unconventional-exit-how-justin-kan-sold-his-first-startup-on-ebay-4d705afe1354

    • Kyle Vogt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylevogt/

    • The State of Telehealth Before and After the COVID-19 Pandemic: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9035352/

    • The Craigslist Killers: https://www.gq.com/story/craigslist-killers

    • The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-social-radar-jessica-livingston

    • Michael Seibel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mwseibel/

    The Airbnb Story: How Three Ordinary Guys Disrupted an Industry, Made Billions ... and Created Plenty of Controversy: https://www.amazon.com/Airbnb-Story-Ordinary-Disrupted-Controversy/dp/0544952669

    • Scott Cook: https://www.forbes.com/profile/scott-cook/

    • Chegg: https://www.chegg.com/

    • Aayush Phumbhra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aayush/

    • Osman Rashid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/osmanrashid/

    • Okta: https://www.okta.com/

    • The Man Who Makes the Future: Wired Icon Marc Andreessen: https://www.wired.com/2012/04/ff-andreessen/

    • Peter Ludwig on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterwludwig/

    • Qasar Younis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/qasar/

    • Paul Allen’s website: https://paulallen.com/

    • Louis Pasteur quote: https://www.forbes.com/quotes/6145/

    • What was Atrium and why did it fail? https://www.failory.com/cemetery/atrium

    • Patrick Collison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickcollison/

    • Drew Houston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewhouston/

    • William Gibson’s quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/681-the-future-is-already-here-it-s-just-not-evenly

    • Maddie Hall on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddie-hall-76293135/

    • Living Carbon: https://www.livingcarbon.com

    • Zenefits (now Trinet): https://connect.trinet.com/

    • Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama

    • Steve Wozniak on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wozniaksteve/

    • Horsley Bridge Partners: https://www.horsleybridge.com/

    • David Swensen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_F._Swensen

    • Judith Elsea on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/judithelsea/

    7 Powers: The Foundations of Business Strategy: https://www.amazon.com/7-Powers-Foundations-Business-Strategy/dp/0998116319

    • Business strategy with Hamilton Helmer (author of 7 Powers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/business-strategy-with-hamilton-helmer

    • Lyft’s Focus on Community and the Story Behind the Pink Mustache: https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/17/lyfts-focus-on-community-and-the-story-behind-the-pink-mustache/

    • Logan Green on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logangreen/

    • John Zimmer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnzimmer11/

    • Storytelling with Nancy Duarte: How to craft compelling presentations and tell a story that sticks: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/storytelling-with-nancy-duarte-how

    • Steve Jobs Introducing the iPhone at MacWorld 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4

    Jonathan Livingston Seagull: https://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull-Richard-Bach/dp/0743278909

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Robin Roberts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-roberts-393a934b/

    • Skunkworks: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/business-areas/aeronautics/skunkworks.html

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-0-to-1-inside-atlassian-tanguy-crusson

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/

    • Vinod Khosla: https://www.khoslaventures.com/team/vinod-khosla/

    • Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing: https://www.amazon.com/Top-Five-Regrets-Dying-Transformed-ebook/dp/B07KNRLY1L

    Chase, Chance, and Creativity: The Lucky Art of Novelty: https://www.amazon.com/Chase-Chance-Creativity-Lucky-Novelty/dp/0262511355

    • Clay Christensen’s books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Clayton-M.-Christensen/author/B000APPD3Y

    Resonate: Present Visual Stories That Transform: https://www.amazon.com/Resonate-Present-Stories-Transform-Audiences/dp/0470632011

    Ferrari on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Ferrari-Adam-Driver/dp/B0CNDBN672

    • Montblanc fountain pens: https://www.montblanc.com/en-us

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    Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design

    Dylan Field live at Config: Intuition, simplicity, and the future of design

    Dylan Field is the co-founder and CEO of Figma, the collaborative design platform that has revolutionized how product teams work. In my first-ever live podcast, recorded at Figma Config, Dylan and I dig into:

    • How intuition and product taste drive Dylan’s decision-making

    • The challenge of keeping things simple

    • Dylan’s thoughts on the future of product management

    • Lessons from Figma’s early days

    • How Figma built their initial user base

    • Dylan’s journey from intern to CEO of a 1,000+-person company

    • The future of design tools and AI

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/dylan-field-live-at-config

    Where to find Dylan Field:

    • X: https://x.com/zoink?lang=en

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanfield/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:11) Welcoming Dylan Field

    (02:36) Highlights and surprises from Config

    (06:58) The philosophy of design

    (08:01) Raccoon feet and muffin hands

    (09:57) Building and refining intuition and product taste

    (12:50) How to influence leadership

    (16:14) The role of product managers

    (21:12) The future of product management

    (22:20) The importance of simplicity in design

    (26:10) The long road to Figma’s launch

    (27:44) Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs

    (29:07) Knowing when it’s time to ship

    (30:39) Early user acquisition strategies

    (35:50) Spotting trends and future innovations

    (39:20) Reflections on leadership and growth

    (43:16) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Mihika Kapoor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mihikakapoor/

    • Rick Rubin on the Creative Act—60 Minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE1teB5bN-w

    • Figma pages: https://help.figma.com/hc/en-us/articles/360038511293-Create-and-manage-pages

    • Leading through uncertainty: A design-led company—Brian Chesky (Config 2023): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkfijg7s76o

    • An inside look at how Figma builds product | Yuhki Yamashita (CPO of Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-how-figma-builds

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • An inside look at Figma’s unique GTM motion | Claire Butler (first GTM hire): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/an-inside-look-at-figmas-unique-bottom

    • Zigging vs. zagging: How HubSpot built a $30B company | Dharmesh Shah (co-founder/CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-30-years-of-building

    • Nadia Singer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadiasinger/

    • Sho Kuwamoto on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shokuwamoto/

    • FigJam: https://www.figma.com/figjam/

    • Tim Van Damme on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-van-damme-maxvoltar/

    • Coda: https://coda.io/

    • Shishir Mehrotra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shishirmehrotra/

    • Websim: https://websim.ai/

    • eToys.com commercial (from Dylan’s childhood acting career): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3Y92aCmmbU

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    The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host)

    The social radar: Y Combinator’s secret weapon | Jessica Livingston (co-founder of Y Combinator, author, podcast host)

    Jessica Livingston is a co-founder of Y Combinator, the first and most successful startup accelerator. Y Combinator has funded over 5,000 companies, 200 of which are now unicorns, including Airbnb, Dropbox, DoorDash, Stripe, Coinbase, and Reddit. Jessica played a crucial role in YC’s early success, when she was nicknamed the “social radar” because of her uncanny ability to quickly evaluate people—an essential skill when investing in early-stage startups. She’s also the host of the popular podcast The Social Radars, where she interviews billion-dollar-startup founders, and the author of the acclaimed book Founders at Work, which captures the origin stories of some of today’s most interesting companies. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • How Jessica gained the affectionate title of the “social radar”

    • Why defensive founders are a red flag

    • How to develop your social radar

    • What she looks for in founders during YC interviews

    • How YC’s early inexperience in angel investing led to the batch model

    • Her favorite stories from interviews with Airbnb, Rippling, and more

    • Lessons learned from hosting her own podcast

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-social-radar-jessica-livingston

    Where to find Jessica Livingston:

    • X: https://x.com/jesslivingston

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicalivingston1/

    • Podcast: https://www.thesocialradars.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jessica’s background

    (02:42) Thoughts on being under-recognized

    (07:52) Jessica’s superpower: the social radar

    (15:11) Evaluating founders: key traits and red flags

    (21:00) The Airbnb story: a lesson in hustle and determination

    (25:57) A YC success story

    (28:26) The importance of earnestness

    (32:45) Confidence vs. defensiveness

    (34:43) Commitment and co-founder disputes

    (37:46) Relentless resourcefulness

    (40:00) Jessica’s social radar: origins and insights

    (43:24) Honing her social radar skills

    (45:44) Conviction and scams: a Y Combinator story

    (46:50) The interview process: challenges and insights

    (48:20) Operationalizing founder evaluation

    (49:38) Advice for building social radar skills

    (52:08) The “Reading the Mind in the Eyes” quiz

    (55:19) Jessica’s podcast: The Social Radars

    (01:00:34) Lessons from podcasting and interviewing

    (01:09:58) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Paul Graham’s post about Jessica: https://paulgraham.com/jessica.html

    • Paul Graham on X: https://x.com/paulg

    • Robert Tappan Morris: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tappan_Morris

    • Trevor Blackwell on X: https://x.com/tlbtlbtlb

    • Y Combinator: https://www.ycombinator.com/

    • “The Founders” examines the rise and legend of PayPal: https://www.economist.com/culture/2022/02/19/the-founders-examines-the-rise-and-legend-of-paypal

    • Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc

    • John Collison on X: https://x.com/collision

    • Brian Chesky on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianchesky/

    • Nate Blecharczyk on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blecharczyk/

    • Joe Gebbia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jgebbia/

    • Airbnb’s CEO says a $40 cereal box changed the course of the multibillion-dollar company: https://fortune.com/2023/04/19/airbnb-ceo-cereal-box-investors-changed-everything-billion-dollar-company/

    • Parker Conrad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parkerconrad/

    • Zenefits: https://connect.trinet.com/hr-platform

    • Goat: https://www.goat.com/

    • Eddy Lu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddylu/

    • Drew Houston on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewhouston/

    • Arash Ferdowsi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arashferdowsi/

    • Lessons from 1,000+ YC startups: Resilience, tar pit ideas, pivoting, more | Dalton Caldwell (Y Combinator, Managing Director): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-1000-yc-startups

    •Bitcoin launderer pleads guilty, admits to massive Bitfinex hack: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/03/new-york-man-admits-being-original-bitfinex-hacker-during-guilty-plea-in-dc-to-bitcoin-money-laundering.html

    • Paul Graham’s tweet with the facial recognition test: https://x.com/paulg/status/1782875262855663691

    • SmartLess podcast: https://www.smartless.com

    • Jason Bateman on X: https://x.com/batemanjason

    • Will Arnett on X: https://x.com/arnettwill

    • Sean Hayes on X: https://x.com/seanhayes

    • The Social Radars with Tony Xu, Co-Founder & CEO of DoorDash: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Ja-tony-xu-co-founder-ceo-of-doordash

    • The Social Radars with Brian Chesky: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/JW-brian-chesky-co-founder-ceo-of-airbnb

    • The Social Radars with Patrick and John Collison: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Kx-patrick-john-collison-co-founders-of-stripe

    • The Social Radars with Brian Armstrong: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/K3-brian-armstrong-co-founder-and-ceo-of-coinbase

    • The Social Radars with Emmett Shear: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/KM-emmett-shear-co-founder-of-twitch

    • The Social Radars with Paul Graham: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/JV-paul-graham-co-founder-of-y-combinator-and-viaweb

    • The Social Radars with Adora Cheung: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/L0-adora-cheung-co-founder-of-homejoy-instalab

    Founders at Work: Stories of Startups’ Early Days: https://www.amazon.com/Founders-Work-Stories-Startups-Early/dp/1430210788

    • Startup School: https://www.startupschool.org/

    • The Social Radars with Parker Conrad: https://www.ycombinator.com/library/Ky-parker-conrad-founder-of-zenefits-rippling

    • Rippling: https://www.rippling.com/

    Carry on, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Carry-Jeeves-Dover-Thrift-Editions/dp/0486848957

    Very Good, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Very-Good-Jeeves-Wooster-Book-ebook/dp/B0051GST06

    Right Ho, Jeeves: https://www.amazon.com/Right-Ho-Jeeves-P-Wodehouse-ebook/dp/B083FFDNHN/

    Life: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Keith-Richards-ebook/dp/B003UBTX72/

    My Name Is Barbra: https://www.amazon.com/My-Name-Barbra-Streisand/dp/0525429522

    Clarkson’s Farm on Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Clarksons-Farm-Season-1/dp/B095RHJ52R

    Schitt’s Creek on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/schitts-creek-a2e7a946-9652-48a8-884b-3ea7ea4de273

    Yellowstone on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/yellowstone

    • Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama

    • Justin Kan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinkan/

    • Alexis Ohanian on X: https://x.com/alexisohanian

    • Steve Huffman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shuffman56/

    • Breaking News: Condé Nast/Wired Acquires Reddit: https://techcrunch.com/2006/10/31/breaking-news-conde-nastwired-acquires-reddit/

    • Charles River Venture: https://www.crv.com/

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    Making an impact through authenticity and curiosity | Ami Vora (CPO at Faire, ex-WhatsApp, FB, IG)

    Making an impact through authenticity and curiosity | Ami Vora (CPO at Faire, ex-WhatsApp, FB, IG)

    Ami Vora is the Chief Product Officer of Faire, which connects independent retailers and brands around the world. Before Faire, Ami spent over 15 years at Meta, including as VP of Product and Design for WhatsApp (2B+ users), VP of Product for Facebook’s ads system (now $130B of annual revenue), and director at Instagram. She began her career working on developer tools at Microsoft. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Why execution eats strategy for breakfast

    • Using metaphor to rally teams around one shared goal

    • How to build cross-functional relationships

    • “Dinosaur brain,” “Toddler soccer,” and the “hill climbing” metaphors

    • A tactic for handling disagreement

    • Tips for working well with product-minded founders as a product leader

    • The story of Ami’s incredible 15-year journey from temp to VP at Meta

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/authenticity-and-curiosity-ami-vora

    Where to find Ami Vora:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amvora/

    • Substack: https://amivora.substack.com/

    Where to find Lenny:

    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Ami’s background

    (02:00) The myth of perfection in success

    (07:55) Emotionally connecting with the job

    (09:55) Embracing curiosity in moments of challenge

    (13:16) Thinking in feedback loops

    (17:17) The “dinosaur brain” metaphor in product reviews

    (20:20) Strategies for conducting effective product reviews

    (26:33) Using metaphors and imagery to communicate your vision

    (29:35) The power of having a shared narrative

    (31:55) WhatsApp: an example of metaphor in action

    (34:44) Emulating people that inspire you

    (36:19) WhatsApp video calling

    (37:35) Why execution is greater than strategy

    (41:36) Time allotment for strategy vs. execution

    (45:10) How to become a better strategic thinker

    (47:59) The intricacies of implementing feedback

    (51:53) Being a female leader in tech

    (55:13) Advice for young women in tech

    (56:07) Setting goals and aligning incentives

    (01:01:40) Acknowledging hard truths

    (01:05:46) Lessons from transitioning to Faire

    (01:08:40) The importance of a good CPO/CEO relationship

    (01:11:17) Vetting heads of product and maintaining customer focus

    (01:12:40) How Ami went from intern to leading major products at Meta

    (01:14:53) The one thing you should do to be successful in product

    (01:17:25) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Faire: https://www.faire.com/

    • Making Meta | Andrew “Boz” Bosworth (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto

    •  Community Wisdom: AMA with Dan Hockenmaier + Facilitating a roadmap session, structuring product teams, navigating an acquisition, companies not needing PMs anymore, and much more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto

    • Developing a growth model + marketplace growth strategy | Dan Hockenmaier (Faire, Thumbtack, Reforge): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/developing-a-growth-model-marketplace

    • Dan Hockenmaier’s website: https://www.danhock.com/

    • On Reviews: https://boz.com/articles/reviews

    • Finding a global optimum always feels like a hill climb: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/amvora_finding-a-global-optimum-always-feels-like-activity-7074776143882588161-jhyy/

    • Dolores Park: https://sfrecpark.org/892/Mission-Dolores-Park

    • Rob Goldman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgoldman/

    • Execution eats strategy for breakfast, but execution without strategy leads to burnout: https://rationalpm.substack.com/p/execution-eats-strategy-for-breakfast

    • The goal of a “strategy” is to change our own team’s behavior: https://amivora.substack.com/p/the-goal-of-a-strategy-is-to-change

    • The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    • Path to Power course outline: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pfeffer-OB377-Course-Outline-2018.pdf

    • Management Time: Who’s Got the Monkey?: https://hbr.org/1999/11/management-time-whos-got-the-monkey

    • Max Rhodes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-rhodes/

    • Coupa Coffee: https://www.coupacafe.com/

    • Brandee Barker on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandeedbarker/

    Year of Yes: How to Dance It Out, Stand In the Sun and Be Your Own Person: https://www.amazon.com/Year-Yes-Dance-Stand-Person/dp/1476777128 

    • How to tell better stories | Matthew Dicks (Storyworthy): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-tell-better-stories-matthew-dicks-storyworthy/

    • A life of yes: Matthew Dicks at TEDxSomerville: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TaQFcaMk4

    The Office on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/the-office

    30 Rock on Peacock: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/30-rock/6240863759978157112

    • Dall-E-2: https://openai.com/index/dall-e-2/

    • ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com

    • Fellow kettles: https://fellowproducts.com/products/stagg-ekg-electric-pour-over-kettle

    • TikTok’s “Roman Empire” Meme, Explained: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2023/09/21/tiktoks-roman-empire-meme-explained/

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    Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery)

    Hard-won lessons building 0 to 1 inside Atlassian | Tanguy Crusson (Head of Jira Product Discovery)

    Tanguy Crusson is the product lead for Jira Product Discovery at Atlassian. In his more than 10 years at the company, he has been instrumental in taking several new products from zero to one, including HipChat, Statuspage, and Jira Product Discovery. In this episode, we dive deep into the struggles of innovating and building new products inside a large company. Tanguy shares candid stories about what worked, what didn’t, and his many hard-won lessons learned about how to successfully build 0 to 1. We cover:

    • Why large companies with so many advantages still fail at creating new products

    • Lessons learned from building HipChat

    • How to avoid common pitfalls like competitive myopia and premature scaling

    • Lessons learned from the acquisition and integration of Statuspage

    • Insights from the success of Jira Product Discovery

    • Tactics for protecting your “ugly babies”

    • The power of “lighthouse users”

    • The importance of having a “why now”

    • Much more

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-0-to-1-inside-atlassian-tanguy-crusson

    Where to find Tanguy Crusson:

    • X: https://x.com/tanguycrusson

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanguy-crusson-99832a

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Tanguy’s background

    (02:30) Tanguy’s journey at Atlassian

    (07:03) The challenges of innovating in large companies

    (10:42) Atlassian's high bar for excellence 

    (12:58) The HipChat story: successes, failures, and lessons learned

    (20:47) Lessons learned from building HipChat

    (33:49) Statuspage: a journey of perseverance

    (39:48) Acquisition challenges and lessons

    (47:22) Strategic decisions: build, buy, or partner?

    (48:17) Learning to articulate "why now"

    (54:08) A quick summary of lessons in this episode

    (55:40) The success and pain of launching Jira Product Discovery 

    (58:10) Incubating new products: the Point A program

    (01:00:13) Failure is the most likely outcome

    (01:04:15) Atlassian's four-phase approach to launching new products

    (01:09:20) Breaking rules without breaking trust

    (01:16:16) Early success and team autonomy

    (01:17:22) Innovating without disrupting existing customers

    (01:23:17) The Lighthouse Users program

    (01:30:00) Protecting and nurturing new ideas

    (01:36:14) Balancing innovation with personal well-being

    (01:38:17) A reminder to look after yourself

    (01:42:06) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    • Atlassian: https://www.atlassian.com/

    • HipChat: https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Hipchat/ct-p/hipchat

    • Stride: https://community.atlassian.com/t5/Stride/ct-p/stride

    • Statuspage: https://www.atlassian.com/software/statuspage

    • Opsgenie: https://www.atlassian.com/software/opsgenie

    • Jira Product Discovery: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/product-discovery

    • HipChat billboard: https://x.com/HubSpot/status/654696998126272512

    • Announcing our new partnership with Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/blog/announcements/new-atlassian-slack-partnership

    • Slack shows it’s worried about Microsoft Teams with a full-page newspaper ad: https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/2/13497766/slack-microsoft-teams-new-york-times-ad

    • What Is ‘Dogfooding’?: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/dogfooding.html

    • Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira

    • Confluence: https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence

    • PagerDuty: https://www.pagerduty.com/

    • New Relic: https://newrelic.com/

    • BigPanda: https://www.bigpanda.io/

    • Transparent Uptime: http://www.transparentuptime.com/

    • Vision, conviction, and hype: How to build 0 to 1 inside a company | Mihika Kapoor (Product at Figma): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/vision-conviction-hype-mihika-kapoor

    • Figma: https://www.figma.com/

    • Lessons from Atlassian: Launching new products, getting buy-in, and staying ahead of the competition | Megan Cook (head of product, Jira): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-atlassian-launching

    • Noah Weiss on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noahw/

    • Tanguy’s LinkedIn post about “lighthouse users”: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tanguy-crusson-99832a_lighthouse-users-one-of-the-pm-techniques-activity-7176654510801502210-hWNi/

    • Pixar Chief: Protect Your ‘Ugly Babies’ (Your Unsightly Ideas): https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyboynton/2014/03/17/pixar-chief-protect-your-ugly-babies-your-unsightly-ideas/

    • Atlas: https://www.atlassian.com/software/atlas

    • Point A: https://www.atlassian.com/point-a

    • Scott Farquhar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottfarquhar

    Who: A Method for Hiring: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Method-Hiring-HC-2008/dp/B004C79SRS/

    Hakim’s Odyssey: Book 1: From Syria to Turkey: https://www.amazon.com/Hakims-Odyssey-Book-Syria-Turkey/dp/1637790007

    Living with the Earth, Volume 1: Permaculture, Ecoculture: Inspired by Nature: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Earth-Gardeners-Permaculture-Ecoculture/dp/1856232603/

    • INRIA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Institute_for_Research_in_Computer_Science_and_Automation

    • How a Hydrofoil Works: https://web.mit.edu/2.972/www/reports/hydrofoil/hydrofoil.html

    • What Is Kitefoil or Foilboarding?: https://www.whenitswindy.com/wp/?page_id=534

    • Freediving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freediving

    • Tanguy’s freediving stats: https://www.aidainternational.org/Athletes/Profile-00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000a45

    • Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.com/

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    The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB)

    The paths to power: How to grow your influence and advance your career | Jeffrey Pfeffer (author of 7 Rules of Power, professor at Stanford GSB)

    Jeffrey Pfeffer teaches the single most popular (and somewhat controversial) class at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business: The Paths to Power. He’s also the author of 16 books, including 7 Rules of Power: Surprising—But True—Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career. He has taught at Harvard, the London Business School, and IESE and has written for publications like Fortune and the Washington Post. Recognized by the Academy of Management and listed in the Thinkers50 Hall of Fame, Jeffrey also serves on several corporate and nonprofit boards, bringing his expertise to global audiences through seminars and executive education. In our conversation, we discuss:

    • Jeffrey’s seven rules of power

    • How individuals can acquire and use power in business

    • Networking, and how to do it effectively

    • How to build a non-cringe personal brand

    • How to increase your influence to amplify your impact

    • Examples and stories of people building power

    • Tradeoffs and challenges that come with power

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    Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-paths-to-power-jeffrey-pfeffer

    Where to find Jeffrey Pfeffer:

    • X: https://x.com/JeffreyPfeffer

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-pfeffer-57a01b6/

    • Website: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/

    • Podcast: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/pfeffer-on-power/

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    • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

    • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

    In this episode, we cover:

    (00:00) Jeffrey’s background 

    (02:54) Understanding discomfort with power

    (04:56) Power skills for underrepresented groups

    (07:51) The popularity and challenges of Jeffrey’s class at Stanford

    (12:21) The seven rules of power

    (13:03) Success stories from his course

    (15:43) Building a personal brand

    (21:11) Getting out of your own way

    (26:04) Breaking the rules to gain power

    (30:34) Networking relentlessly

    (40:10) Why Jeffrey says to “pursue weak ties”

    (42:00) Using your power to build more power

    (44:34) The importance of appearance and body language

    (47:15) Mastering the art of presentation

    (55:12) Examples of homework assignments that Jeffrey gives students

    (59:11) People will forget how you acquired power

    (01:03:58) More good people need to have power

    (01:10:49) The price of power and autonomy

    (01:17:13) A homework assignment for you

    Referenced:

    • Gerald Ferris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerald-r-ferris-5816b1b5/

    • Political Skill at Work: https://tarjomefa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/4173-engilish.pdf

    • Laura Esserman, MD: https://cancer.ucsf.edu/people/esserman.laura

    • Taylor Swift’s website: https://www.taylorswift.com/

    • Matthew 7: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207&version=NIV

    • Mother Teresa quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2887-if-you-judge-people-you-have-no-time-to-love

    • Paths to Power course description: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pfeffer-OB377-Course-Outline-2018.pdf

    7 Rules of Power: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/books/7-rules-of-power/

    The Knowing-Doing Gap: https://jeffreypfeffer.com/books/the-knowing-doing-gap/

    • Derek Kan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekkan/

    • Mitt Romney on X: https://x.com/mittromney

    • Elaine Chao’s website: https://www.elainechao.com/

    • Tony Hsieh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hsieh

    • Zappos: https://www.zappos.com/

    • How I Did It: Zappos’s CEO on Going to Extremes for Customers: https://hbr.org/2010/07/how-i-did-it-zapposs-ceo-on-going-to-extremes-for-customers

    • McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com/

    • Bain & Company: https://www.bain.com/

    • BCG: https://www.bcg.com/

    • Keith Ferrazzi’s website: https://www.keithferrazzi.com/

    • Deloitte: https://www2.deloitte.com/

    • Tristan Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tristanwalker/

    • Foursquare: https://foursquare.com/

    • Laura Chau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-chau/

    • Canaan Partners: https://www.canaan.com/

    • Andreessen Horowitz: https://a16z.com/

    • Sequoia Capital: https://www.sequoiacap.com/

    • Greylock: https://greylock.com/

    The Women Who Venture (WoVen) Podcast: https://www.canaan.com/woven/podcasts

    • Imposter syndrome: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/imposter-syndrome

    • Gary Loveman and Harrah’s Entertainment: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/case-studies/gary-loveman-harrahs-entertainment

    • “If you need help, just ask”: Underestimating compliance with direct requests for help: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/if-you-need-help-just-ask-underestimating-compliance-direct-requests

    • Life story of Kathleen Frances Fowler: https://www.forevermissed.com/kathleenfowler/lifestory

    • Jason Calacanis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncalacanis/

    • Jason Calacanis: A Case Study in Creating Resources: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/case-studies/jason-calacanis-case-study-creating-resources

    You’re Invited: The Art and Science of Connection, Trust, and Belonging: https://www.amazon.com/Youre-Invited-Science-Cultivating-Influence/dp/0063030977

    • View from the Top: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/experience/learning/guest-speakers/view-top

    • Omid Kordestani on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omid-kordestani-46515151/

    • Netscape: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape

    •  Esther Wojcicki on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherwojcicki/

    • Leanne Williams: https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/leanne-williams

    Precision Psychiatry: Using Neuroscience Insights to Inform Personally Tailored, Measurement-Based Care: https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Psychiatry-Neuroscience-Personally-Measurement-Based/dp/1615371583

    • Mark Granovetter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-granovetter-8161704/

    • The Strength of Weak Ties: https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf

    Getting a Jobhttps://www.amazon.com/Getting-Job-Study-Contacts-Careers/dp/0226305813

    Acting with Power: https://www.amazon.com/Acting-Power-More-Powerful-Believe/dp/110190397X

    • Articles by Herminia Ibarra: https://herminiaibarra.com/articles/

    Kingdom of the Planet of the Ape: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11389872/

    • Jim Collins’s website: https://www.jimcollins.com/

    • Dana Carney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danarosecarney/

    • Baba Shiv: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/faculty/baba-shiv

    • Tony Hayward: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hayward

    • Lloyd Blankfein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Blankfein

    • Regis McKenna: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regis_McKenna

    • Jack Valenti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Valenti

    • Salman Rushdie quote: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/434175220328596286/

    • How to build deeper, more robust relationships | Carole Robin (Stanford GSB professor, “Touchy Feely”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/build-robust-relationships-carole-robin

    • Carole Robin’s 15% rule: https://pen-name.notion.site/Carole-Robin-on-Lenny-s-Podcast-dc7159208e4242428f4b11ebc92285eb

    • Karlie Kloss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karliekloss

    • Lindsey Graham’s website: https://www.lindseygraham.com/

    • Was Microsoft’s Empire Built on Stolen Code? We May Never Know: https://www.wired.com/2012/08/ms-dos-examined-for-thef/

    • Who’s who of Jeffrey Epstein’s powerful friends, associates and possible co-conspirators: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/us/jeffrey-epstein-associates-possible-accomplices/index.html

    • Why Did Martha Stewart Go to Prison? A Look Back at Her 2004 Fraud Case: https://people.com/martha-stewart-fraud-case-prison-sentence-look-back-8550277

    • Dianne Feinstein: https://www.congress.gov/member/dianne-feinstein/F000062

    • Richard Blum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Blum

    • Athena Care Network: https://www.athenacarenetwork.org

    • James G. March: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_G._March

    • Satya Nadella on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/

    • Trump Organization fined $1.6 million for tax fraud: https://apnews.com/article/politics-legal-proceedings-new-york-city-donald-trump-manhattan-e2f1d01525dafb64be8738c8b4f32085

    • Rudy Giuliani: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani

    • Harvard president resigns amid claims of plagiarism and antisemitism backlash: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2024/jan/02/harvard-president-claudine-gay-resigns

    • Stanford president resigns after fallout from falsified data in his research: https://www.npr.org/2023/07/19/1188828810/stanford-university-president-resigns

    • Rudy Crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Crew

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    Uri Levine is the co-founder of Waze, the world’s largest community-based traffic and navigation app, acquired by Google for over $1 billion. He’s also founded nine other companies, been on the board of 20 companies, and advised more than 50 companies. He’s most recently the author of Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs, hailed by Steve Wozniak as the “Bible for entrepreneurs.” Uri is dedicated to creating impactful startups that solve real-world problems and has seen everything from failure to moderate success to big success. In our conversation, we dig into:

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    • The phases of the startup journey and how to navigate them

    • Why firing is more important than hiring

    • How Waze iterated to achieve product-market fit

    • Tactics for telling a compelling story when fundraising

    • Much more

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    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/uri-levine

    • Website: https://urilevine.com/

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    (02:50) Falling in love with the problem

    (09:03) Signs this is a big enough problem

    (10:54) The importance of passion

    (12:06) A pivot example

    (14:01) Where to find startup ideas

    (21:57) Finding product-market fit at Waze

    (29:45) The different phases of a startup journey

    (36:47) What investors don’t want to hear

    (39:53) Fundraising tips

    (48:02) How to make your presentations stronger

    (50:32) A wild fundraising story

    (53:46) Firing and hiring

    (59:50) The 30-day test

    (01:04:12) Understanding users

    (01:12:10) Talking to the right users

    (01:15:36) Lightning round

    Referenced:

    Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Problem-Solution-Entrepreneurs/dp/1637741987

    • Waze: https://www.waze.com/

    • Ben Horowitz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/behorowitz/

    • Ben Horowitz quote: https://quotefancy.com/quote/1635284/Ben-Horowitz-As-a-startup-CEO-I-slept-like-a-baby-I-woke-up-every-2-hours-and-cried

    • Michael Jordan quote: https://www.forbes.com/quotes/11194/#:~:text=I've%20lost%20almost%20300,that%20is%20why%20I%20succeed.

    • Steph Curry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Curry

    • How Airbnb Used Word of Mouth to Change the Travel Industry Forever: https://truested.com/story/airbnb

    • Space Mountain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Mountain_(Disneyland)

    • How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence

    • Steve Wozniak on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wozniaksteve/

    • Uri’s post about the conference in Guatemala with Steve Wozniak: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/uri-levine_jewishnewyear-speakers-book-activity-6980089544079486976-0ADa/

    • Leonardo da Vinci quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9010638-simplicity-is-the-ultimate-sophistication-when-once-you-have-tasted

    • Geoffrey Moore on finding your beachhead, crossing the chasm, and dominating a market: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/geoffrey-moore-on-finding-your-beachhead

    • Nana Korobi Ya Oki: https://ikigaitribe.com/vlog/nana-korobi-ya-oki/

    That Will Never Work: The Birth of Netflix and the Amazing Life of an Idea: https://www.amazon.com/That-Will-Never-Work-Netflix/dp/0316530204

    Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones: https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0735211299

    • 8 Great Chess Apps for Beginners and Grand Masters: https://www.wired.com/story/best-chess-apps/

    • Pontera: https://pontera.com/

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